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Why is $x+e^-x>0$ for all $x in mathbbR$?
Simplest or nicest proof that $1+x le e^x$What is the limit of this function as $n$ tends to infinity? (something to the power of e)Limit question: $lim_xto inftyf(x),;; lim_xto -inftyf(x)$?Does $displaystylelim_ntoinftyfracnn+1 = 1$?Calculus - Finding the rate of change of an edge of a cube.Calculus -as X approaches O or infinityProve limit exists for an almost monotonic bounded function, involves convexity and square integrabilityCan I not use L'hopital rule here?What do second order partial derivatives mean in graphs?Find the simplest counterexample against exchanging limit and summationIf $f : [a, infty) → Bbb R$ is monotonically decreasing and the integral $int_0^infty f(x) ,dx$ is convergent, then $lim_x→infty f(x) = 0$.
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Denote $f(x) = x + e^-x$. Note that $f(0) = 1$ and $f'(x) = 1-e^-x$. That means
$$lim_xrightarrow -infty f'(x) = -infty.$$
So if the rate of change of $f(x)$ keeps decreasing exponentially fast to negative infinity, why is $lim_xrightarrow -infty f(x) = +infty$?
I think I am missing something really simple here. Please help.
calculus limits
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Denote $f(x) = x + e^-x$. Note that $f(0) = 1$ and $f'(x) = 1-e^-x$. That means
$$lim_xrightarrow -infty f'(x) = -infty.$$
So if the rate of change of $f(x)$ keeps decreasing exponentially fast to negative infinity, why is $lim_xrightarrow -infty f(x) = +infty$?
I think I am missing something really simple here. Please help.
calculus limits
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Addressing the title, for all $x, e^-xge1-x$ so $x+e^-xge1>0$
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– J. W. Tanner
Mar 21 at 4:45
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To show $x+e^-x> 0$, you want to show $e^-x> -x$. In fact, we have $e^tge t+1$ for all real $t$. So $e^-xge -x+1> -x$ for all real $x$, as desired.
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– Minus One-Twelfth
Mar 21 at 4:46
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Roughly speaking - if you are visualising $x$ going from $0$ to $-infty$, then the graph is not decreasing but increasing exponentially fast, because you are going "backwards".
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– David
Mar 21 at 4:49
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Thank you. That's what I was missing. Going backward. :(
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– Paichu
Mar 21 at 4:50
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Denote $f(x) = x + e^-x$. Note that $f(0) = 1$ and $f'(x) = 1-e^-x$. That means
$$lim_xrightarrow -infty f'(x) = -infty.$$
So if the rate of change of $f(x)$ keeps decreasing exponentially fast to negative infinity, why is $lim_xrightarrow -infty f(x) = +infty$?
I think I am missing something really simple here. Please help.
calculus limits
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Denote $f(x) = x + e^-x$. Note that $f(0) = 1$ and $f'(x) = 1-e^-x$. That means
$$lim_xrightarrow -infty f'(x) = -infty.$$
So if the rate of change of $f(x)$ keeps decreasing exponentially fast to negative infinity, why is $lim_xrightarrow -infty f(x) = +infty$?
I think I am missing something really simple here. Please help.
calculus limits
calculus limits
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Addressing the title, for all $x, e^-xge1-x$ so $x+e^-xge1>0$
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– J. W. Tanner
Mar 21 at 4:45
1
$begingroup$
To show $x+e^-x> 0$, you want to show $e^-x> -x$. In fact, we have $e^tge t+1$ for all real $t$. So $e^-xge -x+1> -x$ for all real $x$, as desired.
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– Minus One-Twelfth
Mar 21 at 4:46
4
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Roughly speaking - if you are visualising $x$ going from $0$ to $-infty$, then the graph is not decreasing but increasing exponentially fast, because you are going "backwards".
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– David
Mar 21 at 4:49
1
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Thank you. That's what I was missing. Going backward. :(
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– Paichu
Mar 21 at 4:50
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Addressing the title, for all $x, e^-xge1-x$ so $x+e^-xge1>0$
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
Mar 21 at 4:45
1
$begingroup$
To show $x+e^-x> 0$, you want to show $e^-x> -x$. In fact, we have $e^tge t+1$ for all real $t$. So $e^-xge -x+1> -x$ for all real $x$, as desired.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
Mar 21 at 4:46
4
$begingroup$
Roughly speaking - if you are visualising $x$ going from $0$ to $-infty$, then the graph is not decreasing but increasing exponentially fast, because you are going "backwards".
$endgroup$
– David
Mar 21 at 4:49
1
$begingroup$
Thank you. That's what I was missing. Going backward. :(
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– Paichu
Mar 21 at 4:50
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Addressing the title, for all $x, e^-xge1-x$ so $x+e^-xge1>0$
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
Mar 21 at 4:45
$begingroup$
Addressing the title, for all $x, e^-xge1-x$ so $x+e^-xge1>0$
$endgroup$
– J. W. Tanner
Mar 21 at 4:45
1
1
$begingroup$
To show $x+e^-x> 0$, you want to show $e^-x> -x$. In fact, we have $e^tge t+1$ for all real $t$. So $e^-xge -x+1> -x$ for all real $x$, as desired.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
Mar 21 at 4:46
$begingroup$
To show $x+e^-x> 0$, you want to show $e^-x> -x$. In fact, we have $e^tge t+1$ for all real $t$. So $e^-xge -x+1> -x$ for all real $x$, as desired.
$endgroup$
– Minus One-Twelfth
Mar 21 at 4:46
4
4
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Roughly speaking - if you are visualising $x$ going from $0$ to $-infty$, then the graph is not decreasing but increasing exponentially fast, because you are going "backwards".
$endgroup$
– David
Mar 21 at 4:49
$begingroup$
Roughly speaking - if you are visualising $x$ going from $0$ to $-infty$, then the graph is not decreasing but increasing exponentially fast, because you are going "backwards".
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– David
Mar 21 at 4:49
1
1
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Thank you. That's what I was missing. Going backward. :(
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– Paichu
Mar 21 at 4:50
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Thank you. That's what I was missing. Going backward. :(
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– Paichu
Mar 21 at 4:50
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You have got your directions mixed up.
When the derivative is negative, the function is decreasing from left to right i.e. its graph is coming down from left to right. Which is the same as , going right to left its graph is going up or it is increasing, which is the phenomena observed here.
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Take
$x < y < 0; tag 1$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y f'(s); ds = int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds; tag 2$
it is clear that, for any $M < 0$, there exists $y_0 < 0$ such that
$s < y_0 Longrightarrow 1 - e^-s < M; tag 3$
if we now choose
$y < y_0, tag 4$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds < int_x^y M ; ds = M(y - x); tag 5$
we re-arrange this inequality:
$f(x) - f(y) > -M(y - x) = M(x - y), tag 6$
$f(x) > f(y) + M(x - y); tag 7$
we now fix $y$ and let $x to -infty$; then since $M < 0$ and $x - y < 0$ for $x < y$,
$displaystyle lim_x to -infty f(y) + M(x - y) = infty, tag 8$
and hence
$displaystyle lim_x to -inftyf(x) = infty tag 9$
as well.
We note that (9) binds despite the fact that $f'(x) < 0$ for $x < 0$; though this derivative is negative, when $x$ decreases we are "walking back up the hill," as it were; as $x$ decreases, $f(x)$ increases.
Note Added in Edit, Wednesday 20 March 2019 10:39 PM PST: We may also dispense with the title question and show
$x + e^-x > 0, forall x in Bbb R; tag10$
for
$x ge 0, tag11$
$e^-x > 0 tag12$
as well, hence we also have
$x + e^-x > 0; tag13$
for
$x < 0, tag14$
we may use the power series for $e^-x$:
$e^-x = 1 - x + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33 + ldots; tag15$
then
$x + e^-x = 1 + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33! + ldots > 0, tag16$
since every term on the right is positive when $x < 0$. End of Note.
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Note that $f''(x) = e^-x >0$ so $f$ is strictly convex.
Since $f'(0) = 0$, we see that $f(x) ge f(0) = 1$ for all $x$.
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Note that
- $forall x in mathbbR : x+e^-x>0 Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :e^-x>-x Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :colorblueboxede^x>x$
The last inequality follows directly by Taylor:
$$colorbluee^x = 1+x + underbracefrace^xi2x^2_geq 0 colorblue> x$$
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You have got your directions mixed up.
When the derivative is negative, the function is decreasing from left to right i.e. its graph is coming down from left to right. Which is the same as , going right to left its graph is going up or it is increasing, which is the phenomena observed here.
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You have got your directions mixed up.
When the derivative is negative, the function is decreasing from left to right i.e. its graph is coming down from left to right. Which is the same as , going right to left its graph is going up or it is increasing, which is the phenomena observed here.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
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You have got your directions mixed up.
When the derivative is negative, the function is decreasing from left to right i.e. its graph is coming down from left to right. Which is the same as , going right to left its graph is going up or it is increasing, which is the phenomena observed here.
$endgroup$
You have got your directions mixed up.
When the derivative is negative, the function is decreasing from left to right i.e. its graph is coming down from left to right. Which is the same as , going right to left its graph is going up or it is increasing, which is the phenomena observed here.
answered Mar 21 at 4:51
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Take
$x < y < 0; tag 1$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y f'(s); ds = int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds; tag 2$
it is clear that, for any $M < 0$, there exists $y_0 < 0$ such that
$s < y_0 Longrightarrow 1 - e^-s < M; tag 3$
if we now choose
$y < y_0, tag 4$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds < int_x^y M ; ds = M(y - x); tag 5$
we re-arrange this inequality:
$f(x) - f(y) > -M(y - x) = M(x - y), tag 6$
$f(x) > f(y) + M(x - y); tag 7$
we now fix $y$ and let $x to -infty$; then since $M < 0$ and $x - y < 0$ for $x < y$,
$displaystyle lim_x to -infty f(y) + M(x - y) = infty, tag 8$
and hence
$displaystyle lim_x to -inftyf(x) = infty tag 9$
as well.
We note that (9) binds despite the fact that $f'(x) < 0$ for $x < 0$; though this derivative is negative, when $x$ decreases we are "walking back up the hill," as it were; as $x$ decreases, $f(x)$ increases.
Note Added in Edit, Wednesday 20 March 2019 10:39 PM PST: We may also dispense with the title question and show
$x + e^-x > 0, forall x in Bbb R; tag10$
for
$x ge 0, tag11$
$e^-x > 0 tag12$
as well, hence we also have
$x + e^-x > 0; tag13$
for
$x < 0, tag14$
we may use the power series for $e^-x$:
$e^-x = 1 - x + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33 + ldots; tag15$
then
$x + e^-x = 1 + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33! + ldots > 0, tag16$
since every term on the right is positive when $x < 0$. End of Note.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Take
$x < y < 0; tag 1$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y f'(s); ds = int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds; tag 2$
it is clear that, for any $M < 0$, there exists $y_0 < 0$ such that
$s < y_0 Longrightarrow 1 - e^-s < M; tag 3$
if we now choose
$y < y_0, tag 4$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds < int_x^y M ; ds = M(y - x); tag 5$
we re-arrange this inequality:
$f(x) - f(y) > -M(y - x) = M(x - y), tag 6$
$f(x) > f(y) + M(x - y); tag 7$
we now fix $y$ and let $x to -infty$; then since $M < 0$ and $x - y < 0$ for $x < y$,
$displaystyle lim_x to -infty f(y) + M(x - y) = infty, tag 8$
and hence
$displaystyle lim_x to -inftyf(x) = infty tag 9$
as well.
We note that (9) binds despite the fact that $f'(x) < 0$ for $x < 0$; though this derivative is negative, when $x$ decreases we are "walking back up the hill," as it were; as $x$ decreases, $f(x)$ increases.
Note Added in Edit, Wednesday 20 March 2019 10:39 PM PST: We may also dispense with the title question and show
$x + e^-x > 0, forall x in Bbb R; tag10$
for
$x ge 0, tag11$
$e^-x > 0 tag12$
as well, hence we also have
$x + e^-x > 0; tag13$
for
$x < 0, tag14$
we may use the power series for $e^-x$:
$e^-x = 1 - x + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33 + ldots; tag15$
then
$x + e^-x = 1 + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33! + ldots > 0, tag16$
since every term on the right is positive when $x < 0$. End of Note.
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Take
$x < y < 0; tag 1$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y f'(s); ds = int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds; tag 2$
it is clear that, for any $M < 0$, there exists $y_0 < 0$ such that
$s < y_0 Longrightarrow 1 - e^-s < M; tag 3$
if we now choose
$y < y_0, tag 4$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds < int_x^y M ; ds = M(y - x); tag 5$
we re-arrange this inequality:
$f(x) - f(y) > -M(y - x) = M(x - y), tag 6$
$f(x) > f(y) + M(x - y); tag 7$
we now fix $y$ and let $x to -infty$; then since $M < 0$ and $x - y < 0$ for $x < y$,
$displaystyle lim_x to -infty f(y) + M(x - y) = infty, tag 8$
and hence
$displaystyle lim_x to -inftyf(x) = infty tag 9$
as well.
We note that (9) binds despite the fact that $f'(x) < 0$ for $x < 0$; though this derivative is negative, when $x$ decreases we are "walking back up the hill," as it were; as $x$ decreases, $f(x)$ increases.
Note Added in Edit, Wednesday 20 March 2019 10:39 PM PST: We may also dispense with the title question and show
$x + e^-x > 0, forall x in Bbb R; tag10$
for
$x ge 0, tag11$
$e^-x > 0 tag12$
as well, hence we also have
$x + e^-x > 0; tag13$
for
$x < 0, tag14$
we may use the power series for $e^-x$:
$e^-x = 1 - x + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33 + ldots; tag15$
then
$x + e^-x = 1 + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33! + ldots > 0, tag16$
since every term on the right is positive when $x < 0$. End of Note.
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Take
$x < y < 0; tag 1$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y f'(s); ds = int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds; tag 2$
it is clear that, for any $M < 0$, there exists $y_0 < 0$ such that
$s < y_0 Longrightarrow 1 - e^-s < M; tag 3$
if we now choose
$y < y_0, tag 4$
then
$f(y) - f(x) = displaystyle int_x^y (1 - e^-s); ds < int_x^y M ; ds = M(y - x); tag 5$
we re-arrange this inequality:
$f(x) - f(y) > -M(y - x) = M(x - y), tag 6$
$f(x) > f(y) + M(x - y); tag 7$
we now fix $y$ and let $x to -infty$; then since $M < 0$ and $x - y < 0$ for $x < y$,
$displaystyle lim_x to -infty f(y) + M(x - y) = infty, tag 8$
and hence
$displaystyle lim_x to -inftyf(x) = infty tag 9$
as well.
We note that (9) binds despite the fact that $f'(x) < 0$ for $x < 0$; though this derivative is negative, when $x$ decreases we are "walking back up the hill," as it were; as $x$ decreases, $f(x)$ increases.
Note Added in Edit, Wednesday 20 March 2019 10:39 PM PST: We may also dispense with the title question and show
$x + e^-x > 0, forall x in Bbb R; tag10$
for
$x ge 0, tag11$
$e^-x > 0 tag12$
as well, hence we also have
$x + e^-x > 0; tag13$
for
$x < 0, tag14$
we may use the power series for $e^-x$:
$e^-x = 1 - x + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33 + ldots; tag15$
then
$x + e^-x = 1 + dfracx^22! - dfracx^33! + ldots > 0, tag16$
since every term on the right is positive when $x < 0$. End of Note.
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Note that $f''(x) = e^-x >0$ so $f$ is strictly convex.
Since $f'(0) = 0$, we see that $f(x) ge f(0) = 1$ for all $x$.
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Note that $f''(x) = e^-x >0$ so $f$ is strictly convex.
Since $f'(0) = 0$, we see that $f(x) ge f(0) = 1$ for all $x$.
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Note that $f''(x) = e^-x >0$ so $f$ is strictly convex.
Since $f'(0) = 0$, we see that $f(x) ge f(0) = 1$ for all $x$.
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Note that $f''(x) = e^-x >0$ so $f$ is strictly convex.
Since $f'(0) = 0$, we see that $f(x) ge f(0) = 1$ for all $x$.
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Note that
- $forall x in mathbbR : x+e^-x>0 Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :e^-x>-x Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :colorblueboxede^x>x$
The last inequality follows directly by Taylor:
$$colorbluee^x = 1+x + underbracefrace^xi2x^2_geq 0 colorblue> x$$
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$begingroup$
Note that
- $forall x in mathbbR : x+e^-x>0 Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :e^-x>-x Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :colorblueboxede^x>x$
The last inequality follows directly by Taylor:
$$colorbluee^x = 1+x + underbracefrace^xi2x^2_geq 0 colorblue> x$$
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Note that
- $forall x in mathbbR : x+e^-x>0 Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :e^-x>-x Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :colorblueboxede^x>x$
The last inequality follows directly by Taylor:
$$colorbluee^x = 1+x + underbracefrace^xi2x^2_geq 0 colorblue> x$$
$endgroup$
Note that
- $forall x in mathbbR : x+e^-x>0 Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :e^-x>-x Leftrightarrow forall x in mathbbR :colorblueboxede^x>x$
The last inequality follows directly by Taylor:
$$colorbluee^x = 1+x + underbracefrace^xi2x^2_geq 0 colorblue> x$$
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Addressing the title, for all $x, e^-xge1-x$ so $x+e^-xge1>0$
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– J. W. Tanner
Mar 21 at 4:45
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To show $x+e^-x> 0$, you want to show $e^-x> -x$. In fact, we have $e^tge t+1$ for all real $t$. So $e^-xge -x+1> -x$ for all real $x$, as desired.
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– Minus One-Twelfth
Mar 21 at 4:46
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Roughly speaking - if you are visualising $x$ going from $0$ to $-infty$, then the graph is not decreasing but increasing exponentially fast, because you are going "backwards".
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– David
Mar 21 at 4:49
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Thank you. That's what I was missing. Going backward. :(
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– Paichu
Mar 21 at 4:50