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Real Modulo Numbers in the Interval [0, 1), and Multiplication of


What are the rules for basic algebra when modulo real numbers are involvedDoes this number belong to the set of real numbers?What does the integer span of one irrational, and one (possibly irrational) real number look like in $mathbbR$?How to reverse modulo of a multiplication?Clarify a problem with prime and composite numbersDoes this prime generating way generate all the prime numbers?Why can we exchange numbers when working with modulo expressions?Does Arithmetic Need Non-Computable Real Numbers?Distribution of types of numbers in the real lineIs there any formal proof for the correctness of long multiplication/division method?













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Let's say we have a real number, A, in the interval [0, 1).
If we add another real number to it, it "Wraps" around back to zero.



So, for example:



Lets say: A = 5/13



If we multiply A by 2, we get: 10/13



If we multiple A by 3, we get: 2/13 (not 15/13)



If we multiple A by 4, we get 7/13 (not 20/13)



And so on...



My question is:



If given two such numbers, A and B, how can we find the smallest number, x, such that:



Ax = B



For example:



If A = 5/13 and B = 8/13, what do we need to multiply A by, to get B.



A solution for real numbers is preferable. However, if a solution does not exist for real numbers generally, then a solution for rational numbers should be sufficient.



Note that this problem is relevant to an algorithm that I'm writing. And I'd like to get it finished soon.



If I get my algorithm to work, and someone here provides a good solution, and that person (or people) have their name and contact details on their profile page, then I'm happy to give them a reference.










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  • $begingroup$
    My first thought would be to see if the (extended) Euclidean algorithm would be of any use: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_multiplicative_inverse
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Mar 21 at 6:29











  • $begingroup$
    For rational numbers $a/n$ and $b/n$, this is the same as solving the congruence $ax equiv b pmod n$. Solutions will not always exist (e.g., if $a = 2/4, b=1/4$).
    $endgroup$
    – FredH
    Mar 21 at 9:07










  • $begingroup$
    I assumed that there was a solution with O(1), my bad. I had a look at the algorithm you suggested, and if I understand it correctly, it should work for the example above, however, it's not as efficient as I would like.
    $endgroup$
    – Abs Spurdle
    Mar 21 at 21:28















1












$begingroup$


Let's say we have a real number, A, in the interval [0, 1).
If we add another real number to it, it "Wraps" around back to zero.



So, for example:



Lets say: A = 5/13



If we multiply A by 2, we get: 10/13



If we multiple A by 3, we get: 2/13 (not 15/13)



If we multiple A by 4, we get 7/13 (not 20/13)



And so on...



My question is:



If given two such numbers, A and B, how can we find the smallest number, x, such that:



Ax = B



For example:



If A = 5/13 and B = 8/13, what do we need to multiply A by, to get B.



A solution for real numbers is preferable. However, if a solution does not exist for real numbers generally, then a solution for rational numbers should be sufficient.



Note that this problem is relevant to an algorithm that I'm writing. And I'd like to get it finished soon.



If I get my algorithm to work, and someone here provides a good solution, and that person (or people) have their name and contact details on their profile page, then I'm happy to give them a reference.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$











  • $begingroup$
    My first thought would be to see if the (extended) Euclidean algorithm would be of any use: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_multiplicative_inverse
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Mar 21 at 6:29











  • $begingroup$
    For rational numbers $a/n$ and $b/n$, this is the same as solving the congruence $ax equiv b pmod n$. Solutions will not always exist (e.g., if $a = 2/4, b=1/4$).
    $endgroup$
    – FredH
    Mar 21 at 9:07










  • $begingroup$
    I assumed that there was a solution with O(1), my bad. I had a look at the algorithm you suggested, and if I understand it correctly, it should work for the example above, however, it's not as efficient as I would like.
    $endgroup$
    – Abs Spurdle
    Mar 21 at 21:28













1












1








1





$begingroup$


Let's say we have a real number, A, in the interval [0, 1).
If we add another real number to it, it "Wraps" around back to zero.



So, for example:



Lets say: A = 5/13



If we multiply A by 2, we get: 10/13



If we multiple A by 3, we get: 2/13 (not 15/13)



If we multiple A by 4, we get 7/13 (not 20/13)



And so on...



My question is:



If given two such numbers, A and B, how can we find the smallest number, x, such that:



Ax = B



For example:



If A = 5/13 and B = 8/13, what do we need to multiply A by, to get B.



A solution for real numbers is preferable. However, if a solution does not exist for real numbers generally, then a solution for rational numbers should be sufficient.



Note that this problem is relevant to an algorithm that I'm writing. And I'd like to get it finished soon.



If I get my algorithm to work, and someone here provides a good solution, and that person (or people) have their name and contact details on their profile page, then I'm happy to give them a reference.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




Let's say we have a real number, A, in the interval [0, 1).
If we add another real number to it, it "Wraps" around back to zero.



So, for example:



Lets say: A = 5/13



If we multiply A by 2, we get: 10/13



If we multiple A by 3, we get: 2/13 (not 15/13)



If we multiple A by 4, we get 7/13 (not 20/13)



And so on...



My question is:



If given two such numbers, A and B, how can we find the smallest number, x, such that:



Ax = B



For example:



If A = 5/13 and B = 8/13, what do we need to multiply A by, to get B.



A solution for real numbers is preferable. However, if a solution does not exist for real numbers generally, then a solution for rational numbers should be sufficient.



Note that this problem is relevant to an algorithm that I'm writing. And I'd like to get it finished soon.



If I get my algorithm to work, and someone here provides a good solution, and that person (or people) have their name and contact details on their profile page, then I'm happy to give them a reference.







number-theory modular-arithmetic






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  • $begingroup$
    My first thought would be to see if the (extended) Euclidean algorithm would be of any use: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_multiplicative_inverse
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Mar 21 at 6:29











  • $begingroup$
    For rational numbers $a/n$ and $b/n$, this is the same as solving the congruence $ax equiv b pmod n$. Solutions will not always exist (e.g., if $a = 2/4, b=1/4$).
    $endgroup$
    – FredH
    Mar 21 at 9:07










  • $begingroup$
    I assumed that there was a solution with O(1), my bad. I had a look at the algorithm you suggested, and if I understand it correctly, it should work for the example above, however, it's not as efficient as I would like.
    $endgroup$
    – Abs Spurdle
    Mar 21 at 21:28
















  • $begingroup$
    My first thought would be to see if the (extended) Euclidean algorithm would be of any use: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_multiplicative_inverse
    $endgroup$
    – Matti P.
    Mar 21 at 6:29











  • $begingroup$
    For rational numbers $a/n$ and $b/n$, this is the same as solving the congruence $ax equiv b pmod n$. Solutions will not always exist (e.g., if $a = 2/4, b=1/4$).
    $endgroup$
    – FredH
    Mar 21 at 9:07










  • $begingroup$
    I assumed that there was a solution with O(1), my bad. I had a look at the algorithm you suggested, and if I understand it correctly, it should work for the example above, however, it's not as efficient as I would like.
    $endgroup$
    – Abs Spurdle
    Mar 21 at 21:28















$begingroup$
My first thought would be to see if the (extended) Euclidean algorithm would be of any use: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_multiplicative_inverse
$endgroup$
– Matti P.
Mar 21 at 6:29





$begingroup$
My first thought would be to see if the (extended) Euclidean algorithm would be of any use: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modular_multiplicative_inverse
$endgroup$
– Matti P.
Mar 21 at 6:29













$begingroup$
For rational numbers $a/n$ and $b/n$, this is the same as solving the congruence $ax equiv b pmod n$. Solutions will not always exist (e.g., if $a = 2/4, b=1/4$).
$endgroup$
– FredH
Mar 21 at 9:07




$begingroup$
For rational numbers $a/n$ and $b/n$, this is the same as solving the congruence $ax equiv b pmod n$. Solutions will not always exist (e.g., if $a = 2/4, b=1/4$).
$endgroup$
– FredH
Mar 21 at 9:07












$begingroup$
I assumed that there was a solution with O(1), my bad. I had a look at the algorithm you suggested, and if I understand it correctly, it should work for the example above, however, it's not as efficient as I would like.
$endgroup$
– Abs Spurdle
Mar 21 at 21:28




$begingroup$
I assumed that there was a solution with O(1), my bad. I had a look at the algorithm you suggested, and if I understand it correctly, it should work for the example above, however, it's not as efficient as I would like.
$endgroup$
– Abs Spurdle
Mar 21 at 21:28










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