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Solve $A = C B C^t$ for $B$


Find $C$, if $A=CBC$, where $A$,$B$,$C$ are symmetric matrices.Is symmetry a necessary condition for positive (or negative) definiteness?Variant of Cholesky Decomposition: solve $B^TB=A$ for general square matrix $A$Finding Rank of the following MatrixProve that a square matrix $A$ is positive definite if and only if $A$+ $A^T$ is positive definiteFinding an orthogonal matrix for a 3x2How to solve for square matrix $y$ given $x = A'yA$ for $A'A = I$Find Condition on the matrix $X in mathbbR^n times m$ where $mleq n$Necessary condition for a matrix equation to be zeroPrincipal-Minors-Test for Positivity of Complex Hermitian MatricesHow to solve for unknown matrix?













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I know this question, but I would like to know the middle square matrix $B$.




Given positive definite matrix $A in mathbb R^2 times 2$ and non-zero matrix $C in mathbb R^2 times 3$, find $3 times3$ matrix $B$



$$A = C B C^t$$











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    Are A, B and C real or complex matrices?
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    yes, real only, just simplest case...
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    $CBC^t$ is not a thing, if $B$ is $3times 2$ and $C$ is $3times 3$.
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    This is extremely easy using vectorization. Solve the linear system $$(C otimes C) , mboxvec (B) = mboxvec (A)$$
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I know this question, but I would like to know the middle square matrix $B$.




Given positive definite matrix $A in mathbb R^2 times 2$ and non-zero matrix $C in mathbb R^2 times 3$, find $3 times3$ matrix $B$



$$A = C B C^t$$











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  • $begingroup$
    Are A, B and C real or complex matrices?
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    – PerelMan
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    yes, real only, just simplest case...
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    – JimSD
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  • $begingroup$
    $CBC^t$ is not a thing, if $B$ is $3times 2$ and $C$ is $3times 3$.
    $endgroup$
    – Saucy O'Path
    Mar 21 at 6:38







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This is extremely easy using vectorization. Solve the linear system $$(C otimes C) , mboxvec (B) = mboxvec (A)$$
    $endgroup$
    – Rodrigo de Azevedo
    Mar 21 at 6:54







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JimSD Then un-vectorize!! In MATLAB, use reshape to do both vectorization and un-vectorization.
    $endgroup$
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    Mar 21 at 7:25













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I know this question, but I would like to know the middle square matrix $B$.




Given positive definite matrix $A in mathbb R^2 times 2$ and non-zero matrix $C in mathbb R^2 times 3$, find $3 times3$ matrix $B$



$$A = C B C^t$$











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I know this question, but I would like to know the middle square matrix $B$.




Given positive definite matrix $A in mathbb R^2 times 2$ and non-zero matrix $C in mathbb R^2 times 3$, find $3 times3$ matrix $B$



$$A = C B C^t$$








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  • $begingroup$
    Are A, B and C real or complex matrices?
    $endgroup$
    – PerelMan
    Mar 21 at 6:37











  • $begingroup$
    yes, real only, just simplest case...
    $endgroup$
    – JimSD
    Mar 21 at 6:37











  • $begingroup$
    $CBC^t$ is not a thing, if $B$ is $3times 2$ and $C$ is $3times 3$.
    $endgroup$
    – Saucy O'Path
    Mar 21 at 6:38







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This is extremely easy using vectorization. Solve the linear system $$(C otimes C) , mboxvec (B) = mboxvec (A)$$
    $endgroup$
    – Rodrigo de Azevedo
    Mar 21 at 6:54







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JimSD Then un-vectorize!! In MATLAB, use reshape to do both vectorization and un-vectorization.
    $endgroup$
    – Rodrigo de Azevedo
    Mar 21 at 7:25
















  • $begingroup$
    Are A, B and C real or complex matrices?
    $endgroup$
    – PerelMan
    Mar 21 at 6:37











  • $begingroup$
    yes, real only, just simplest case...
    $endgroup$
    – JimSD
    Mar 21 at 6:37











  • $begingroup$
    $CBC^t$ is not a thing, if $B$ is $3times 2$ and $C$ is $3times 3$.
    $endgroup$
    – Saucy O'Path
    Mar 21 at 6:38







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    This is extremely easy using vectorization. Solve the linear system $$(C otimes C) , mboxvec (B) = mboxvec (A)$$
    $endgroup$
    – Rodrigo de Azevedo
    Mar 21 at 6:54







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @JimSD Then un-vectorize!! In MATLAB, use reshape to do both vectorization and un-vectorization.
    $endgroup$
    – Rodrigo de Azevedo
    Mar 21 at 7:25















$begingroup$
Are A, B and C real or complex matrices?
$endgroup$
– PerelMan
Mar 21 at 6:37





$begingroup$
Are A, B and C real or complex matrices?
$endgroup$
– PerelMan
Mar 21 at 6:37













$begingroup$
yes, real only, just simplest case...
$endgroup$
– JimSD
Mar 21 at 6:37





$begingroup$
yes, real only, just simplest case...
$endgroup$
– JimSD
Mar 21 at 6:37













$begingroup$
$CBC^t$ is not a thing, if $B$ is $3times 2$ and $C$ is $3times 3$.
$endgroup$
– Saucy O'Path
Mar 21 at 6:38





$begingroup$
$CBC^t$ is not a thing, if $B$ is $3times 2$ and $C$ is $3times 3$.
$endgroup$
– Saucy O'Path
Mar 21 at 6:38





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$begingroup$
This is extremely easy using vectorization. Solve the linear system $$(C otimes C) , mboxvec (B) = mboxvec (A)$$
$endgroup$
– Rodrigo de Azevedo
Mar 21 at 6:54





$begingroup$
This is extremely easy using vectorization. Solve the linear system $$(C otimes C) , mboxvec (B) = mboxvec (A)$$
$endgroup$
– Rodrigo de Azevedo
Mar 21 at 6:54





1




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$begingroup$
@JimSD Then un-vectorize!! In MATLAB, use reshape to do both vectorization and un-vectorization.
$endgroup$
– Rodrigo de Azevedo
Mar 21 at 7:25




$begingroup$
@JimSD Then un-vectorize!! In MATLAB, use reshape to do both vectorization and un-vectorization.
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Mar 21 at 7:25










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Let (*) $A=CBC^T$. Since $A$ is sym. $>0$, necessarily $rank(C)=2$ ( otherwise, there are no solutions in $B$).



Then $C^+=C^T(CC^T)^-1$ ( cf. the Moore Penrose inverse of $C$) and $CC^+=I_2$. Moreover, $S=C^+C$ is sym. and similar to $diag(1,1,0)$. Up to an orthonormal change of basis, we may assume that $S=C^+C=diag(1,1,0),C=[D_2,2,0_2,1],C^+=beginpmatrixD^-1\0_1,2endpmatrix$.



(*) is equivalent to $C^+A(C^+)^T=SBS$ or



$beginpmatrixD^-1A(D^-1)^T&0\0&0endpmatrix=beginpmatrixa&b&0\d&e&0\0&0&0endpmatrix$ where the unknown $B=beginpmatrixa&b&c\d&e&f\g&h&pendpmatrix$.



Note that $U=[u_i,j]=D^-1A(D^-1)^T$ is a known sym. $>0$ matrix. Then $B$ is a solution of (*) iff the following conditions are satisfied



$a=u_1,1,e=u_2,2,b=d=u_1,2$; $g,h,p,c,f$ are $5=9-4$ arbitrary parameters.






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    Let (*) $A=CBC^T$. Since $A$ is sym. $>0$, necessarily $rank(C)=2$ ( otherwise, there are no solutions in $B$).



    Then $C^+=C^T(CC^T)^-1$ ( cf. the Moore Penrose inverse of $C$) and $CC^+=I_2$. Moreover, $S=C^+C$ is sym. and similar to $diag(1,1,0)$. Up to an orthonormal change of basis, we may assume that $S=C^+C=diag(1,1,0),C=[D_2,2,0_2,1],C^+=beginpmatrixD^-1\0_1,2endpmatrix$.



    (*) is equivalent to $C^+A(C^+)^T=SBS$ or



    $beginpmatrixD^-1A(D^-1)^T&0\0&0endpmatrix=beginpmatrixa&b&0\d&e&0\0&0&0endpmatrix$ where the unknown $B=beginpmatrixa&b&c\d&e&f\g&h&pendpmatrix$.



    Note that $U=[u_i,j]=D^-1A(D^-1)^T$ is a known sym. $>0$ matrix. Then $B$ is a solution of (*) iff the following conditions are satisfied



    $a=u_1,1,e=u_2,2,b=d=u_1,2$; $g,h,p,c,f$ are $5=9-4$ arbitrary parameters.






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      Let (*) $A=CBC^T$. Since $A$ is sym. $>0$, necessarily $rank(C)=2$ ( otherwise, there are no solutions in $B$).



      Then $C^+=C^T(CC^T)^-1$ ( cf. the Moore Penrose inverse of $C$) and $CC^+=I_2$. Moreover, $S=C^+C$ is sym. and similar to $diag(1,1,0)$. Up to an orthonormal change of basis, we may assume that $S=C^+C=diag(1,1,0),C=[D_2,2,0_2,1],C^+=beginpmatrixD^-1\0_1,2endpmatrix$.



      (*) is equivalent to $C^+A(C^+)^T=SBS$ or



      $beginpmatrixD^-1A(D^-1)^T&0\0&0endpmatrix=beginpmatrixa&b&0\d&e&0\0&0&0endpmatrix$ where the unknown $B=beginpmatrixa&b&c\d&e&f\g&h&pendpmatrix$.



      Note that $U=[u_i,j]=D^-1A(D^-1)^T$ is a known sym. $>0$ matrix. Then $B$ is a solution of (*) iff the following conditions are satisfied



      $a=u_1,1,e=u_2,2,b=d=u_1,2$; $g,h,p,c,f$ are $5=9-4$ arbitrary parameters.






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        Let (*) $A=CBC^T$. Since $A$ is sym. $>0$, necessarily $rank(C)=2$ ( otherwise, there are no solutions in $B$).



        Then $C^+=C^T(CC^T)^-1$ ( cf. the Moore Penrose inverse of $C$) and $CC^+=I_2$. Moreover, $S=C^+C$ is sym. and similar to $diag(1,1,0)$. Up to an orthonormal change of basis, we may assume that $S=C^+C=diag(1,1,0),C=[D_2,2,0_2,1],C^+=beginpmatrixD^-1\0_1,2endpmatrix$.



        (*) is equivalent to $C^+A(C^+)^T=SBS$ or



        $beginpmatrixD^-1A(D^-1)^T&0\0&0endpmatrix=beginpmatrixa&b&0\d&e&0\0&0&0endpmatrix$ where the unknown $B=beginpmatrixa&b&c\d&e&f\g&h&pendpmatrix$.



        Note that $U=[u_i,j]=D^-1A(D^-1)^T$ is a known sym. $>0$ matrix. Then $B$ is a solution of (*) iff the following conditions are satisfied



        $a=u_1,1,e=u_2,2,b=d=u_1,2$; $g,h,p,c,f$ are $5=9-4$ arbitrary parameters.






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        Let (*) $A=CBC^T$. Since $A$ is sym. $>0$, necessarily $rank(C)=2$ ( otherwise, there are no solutions in $B$).



        Then $C^+=C^T(CC^T)^-1$ ( cf. the Moore Penrose inverse of $C$) and $CC^+=I_2$. Moreover, $S=C^+C$ is sym. and similar to $diag(1,1,0)$. Up to an orthonormal change of basis, we may assume that $S=C^+C=diag(1,1,0),C=[D_2,2,0_2,1],C^+=beginpmatrixD^-1\0_1,2endpmatrix$.



        (*) is equivalent to $C^+A(C^+)^T=SBS$ or



        $beginpmatrixD^-1A(D^-1)^T&0\0&0endpmatrix=beginpmatrixa&b&0\d&e&0\0&0&0endpmatrix$ where the unknown $B=beginpmatrixa&b&c\d&e&f\g&h&pendpmatrix$.



        Note that $U=[u_i,j]=D^-1A(D^-1)^T$ is a known sym. $>0$ matrix. Then $B$ is a solution of (*) iff the following conditions are satisfied



        $a=u_1,1,e=u_2,2,b=d=u_1,2$; $g,h,p,c,f$ are $5=9-4$ arbitrary parameters.







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