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What's the probability that person is healthy?


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My question looks like this:




Using X-ray probability to find out that person is sick: a=0.98. Probability to accidentally identify the disease for health person: b=0.3. Let's say that there is 10 percent of sick people in the world. What's the probability, that person is healthy even after he was identified a ill person?




My solution:




P(A)= 0.98*0.3*0.1=0.0294




But I'm not sure if this is correct.



Any help appreciate, thanks!










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    It is not correct. Work out the probability that a person is sick and is diagnosed as sick, and the probability that a person is healthy but diagnosed as sick. Then combine these to find the overall probability of being diagnosed as sick, and thus find the conditional probability
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    – Henry
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    Then a=0.98 probability has no impact for the answer?
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    – MCTG
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    $begingroup$
    I would assume $a=0.98$ affects the probability a sick person is diagnosed as sick (though the wording is less than perfect) and so affects the final answer
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Mar 21 at 8:42















-1












$begingroup$


My question looks like this:




Using X-ray probability to find out that person is sick: a=0.98. Probability to accidentally identify the disease for health person: b=0.3. Let's say that there is 10 percent of sick people in the world. What's the probability, that person is healthy even after he was identified a ill person?




My solution:




P(A)= 0.98*0.3*0.1=0.0294




But I'm not sure if this is correct.



Any help appreciate, thanks!










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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It is not correct. Work out the probability that a person is sick and is diagnosed as sick, and the probability that a person is healthy but diagnosed as sick. Then combine these to find the overall probability of being diagnosed as sick, and thus find the conditional probability
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Mar 21 at 8:31











  • $begingroup$
    Then a=0.98 probability has no impact for the answer?
    $endgroup$
    – MCTG
    Mar 21 at 8:36







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I would assume $a=0.98$ affects the probability a sick person is diagnosed as sick (though the wording is less than perfect) and so affects the final answer
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Mar 21 at 8:42













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$begingroup$


My question looks like this:




Using X-ray probability to find out that person is sick: a=0.98. Probability to accidentally identify the disease for health person: b=0.3. Let's say that there is 10 percent of sick people in the world. What's the probability, that person is healthy even after he was identified a ill person?




My solution:




P(A)= 0.98*0.3*0.1=0.0294




But I'm not sure if this is correct.



Any help appreciate, thanks!










share|cite|improve this question









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My question looks like this:




Using X-ray probability to find out that person is sick: a=0.98. Probability to accidentally identify the disease for health person: b=0.3. Let's say that there is 10 percent of sick people in the world. What's the probability, that person is healthy even after he was identified a ill person?




My solution:




P(A)= 0.98*0.3*0.1=0.0294




But I'm not sure if this is correct.



Any help appreciate, thanks!







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    $begingroup$
    It is not correct. Work out the probability that a person is sick and is diagnosed as sick, and the probability that a person is healthy but diagnosed as sick. Then combine these to find the overall probability of being diagnosed as sick, and thus find the conditional probability
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Mar 21 at 8:31











  • $begingroup$
    Then a=0.98 probability has no impact for the answer?
    $endgroup$
    – MCTG
    Mar 21 at 8:36







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I would assume $a=0.98$ affects the probability a sick person is diagnosed as sick (though the wording is less than perfect) and so affects the final answer
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Mar 21 at 8:42












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It is not correct. Work out the probability that a person is sick and is diagnosed as sick, and the probability that a person is healthy but diagnosed as sick. Then combine these to find the overall probability of being diagnosed as sick, and thus find the conditional probability
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Mar 21 at 8:31











  • $begingroup$
    Then a=0.98 probability has no impact for the answer?
    $endgroup$
    – MCTG
    Mar 21 at 8:36







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I would assume $a=0.98$ affects the probability a sick person is diagnosed as sick (though the wording is less than perfect) and so affects the final answer
    $endgroup$
    – Henry
    Mar 21 at 8:42







1




1




$begingroup$
It is not correct. Work out the probability that a person is sick and is diagnosed as sick, and the probability that a person is healthy but diagnosed as sick. Then combine these to find the overall probability of being diagnosed as sick, and thus find the conditional probability
$endgroup$
– Henry
Mar 21 at 8:31





$begingroup$
It is not correct. Work out the probability that a person is sick and is diagnosed as sick, and the probability that a person is healthy but diagnosed as sick. Then combine these to find the overall probability of being diagnosed as sick, and thus find the conditional probability
$endgroup$
– Henry
Mar 21 at 8:31













$begingroup$
Then a=0.98 probability has no impact for the answer?
$endgroup$
– MCTG
Mar 21 at 8:36





$begingroup$
Then a=0.98 probability has no impact for the answer?
$endgroup$
– MCTG
Mar 21 at 8:36





1




1




$begingroup$
I would assume $a=0.98$ affects the probability a sick person is diagnosed as sick (though the wording is less than perfect) and so affects the final answer
$endgroup$
– Henry
Mar 21 at 8:42




$begingroup$
I would assume $a=0.98$ affects the probability a sick person is diagnosed as sick (though the wording is less than perfect) and so affects the final answer
$endgroup$
– Henry
Mar 21 at 8:42










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A person can either be healthy or sick with probabilities 0.9 and 0.1 (say $Pr(H)$ and $Pr(barH)$). It is given that the probability that a healthy person maybe accidentally be misdiagnosed is 0.3, this means that $Pr(Positive|H) = 0.3$. We are asked the probability $Pr(H|Positive)$.



Also given that a person is identified with the disease (irrespective of whether or not he has it) as 0.98. That is,
$$
Pr(Positive) = 0.98
$$

By Bayes' rule,
$$
Pr(H|Positive) = fracPr(PositivePr(Positive)
$$



But we can understand some more properties of the drug by exploring,
$$
Pr(Negative|H) = 1- Pr(Positive|H) = 0.7
$$

$$
Pr(Positive) = Pr(Positive|H) + Pr(Positive|barH)
$$

$$
implies Pr(Positive|barH) = Pr(Positive) - Pr(Positive|H) = 0.78
$$



This also means,
$$
Pr(Negative|barH) = 0.22
$$



This drug clearly has an alarming false positive rate. Undertandable as it seems to classify 98% of the population as sick even though only 10% actually are. Like @drhab has pointed out, this is a classic example of Bayes' rule in action.






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    Hint:



    • $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)$


    • $Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)+Pleft(textill testedmidtextillright)Pleft(textillright)$


    Based on these equalities (do you agree that they are correct?) and your data you can find $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)$.



    Give it a try (and "discover" the so-called rule of Bayes).






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      $begingroup$

      A person can either be healthy or sick with probabilities 0.9 and 0.1 (say $Pr(H)$ and $Pr(barH)$). It is given that the probability that a healthy person maybe accidentally be misdiagnosed is 0.3, this means that $Pr(Positive|H) = 0.3$. We are asked the probability $Pr(H|Positive)$.



      Also given that a person is identified with the disease (irrespective of whether or not he has it) as 0.98. That is,
      $$
      Pr(Positive) = 0.98
      $$

      By Bayes' rule,
      $$
      Pr(H|Positive) = fracPr(PositivePr(Positive)
      $$



      But we can understand some more properties of the drug by exploring,
      $$
      Pr(Negative|H) = 1- Pr(Positive|H) = 0.7
      $$

      $$
      Pr(Positive) = Pr(Positive|H) + Pr(Positive|barH)
      $$

      $$
      implies Pr(Positive|barH) = Pr(Positive) - Pr(Positive|H) = 0.78
      $$



      This also means,
      $$
      Pr(Negative|barH) = 0.22
      $$



      This drug clearly has an alarming false positive rate. Undertandable as it seems to classify 98% of the population as sick even though only 10% actually are. Like @drhab has pointed out, this is a classic example of Bayes' rule in action.






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        $begingroup$

        A person can either be healthy or sick with probabilities 0.9 and 0.1 (say $Pr(H)$ and $Pr(barH)$). It is given that the probability that a healthy person maybe accidentally be misdiagnosed is 0.3, this means that $Pr(Positive|H) = 0.3$. We are asked the probability $Pr(H|Positive)$.



        Also given that a person is identified with the disease (irrespective of whether or not he has it) as 0.98. That is,
        $$
        Pr(Positive) = 0.98
        $$

        By Bayes' rule,
        $$
        Pr(H|Positive) = fracPr(PositivePr(Positive)
        $$



        But we can understand some more properties of the drug by exploring,
        $$
        Pr(Negative|H) = 1- Pr(Positive|H) = 0.7
        $$

        $$
        Pr(Positive) = Pr(Positive|H) + Pr(Positive|barH)
        $$

        $$
        implies Pr(Positive|barH) = Pr(Positive) - Pr(Positive|H) = 0.78
        $$



        This also means,
        $$
        Pr(Negative|barH) = 0.22
        $$



        This drug clearly has an alarming false positive rate. Undertandable as it seems to classify 98% of the population as sick even though only 10% actually are. Like @drhab has pointed out, this is a classic example of Bayes' rule in action.






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          $begingroup$

          A person can either be healthy or sick with probabilities 0.9 and 0.1 (say $Pr(H)$ and $Pr(barH)$). It is given that the probability that a healthy person maybe accidentally be misdiagnosed is 0.3, this means that $Pr(Positive|H) = 0.3$. We are asked the probability $Pr(H|Positive)$.



          Also given that a person is identified with the disease (irrespective of whether or not he has it) as 0.98. That is,
          $$
          Pr(Positive) = 0.98
          $$

          By Bayes' rule,
          $$
          Pr(H|Positive) = fracPr(PositivePr(Positive)
          $$



          But we can understand some more properties of the drug by exploring,
          $$
          Pr(Negative|H) = 1- Pr(Positive|H) = 0.7
          $$

          $$
          Pr(Positive) = Pr(Positive|H) + Pr(Positive|barH)
          $$

          $$
          implies Pr(Positive|barH) = Pr(Positive) - Pr(Positive|H) = 0.78
          $$



          This also means,
          $$
          Pr(Negative|barH) = 0.22
          $$



          This drug clearly has an alarming false positive rate. Undertandable as it seems to classify 98% of the population as sick even though only 10% actually are. Like @drhab has pointed out, this is a classic example of Bayes' rule in action.






          share|cite|improve this answer









          $endgroup$



          A person can either be healthy or sick with probabilities 0.9 and 0.1 (say $Pr(H)$ and $Pr(barH)$). It is given that the probability that a healthy person maybe accidentally be misdiagnosed is 0.3, this means that $Pr(Positive|H) = 0.3$. We are asked the probability $Pr(H|Positive)$.



          Also given that a person is identified with the disease (irrespective of whether or not he has it) as 0.98. That is,
          $$
          Pr(Positive) = 0.98
          $$

          By Bayes' rule,
          $$
          Pr(H|Positive) = fracPr(PositivePr(Positive)
          $$



          But we can understand some more properties of the drug by exploring,
          $$
          Pr(Negative|H) = 1- Pr(Positive|H) = 0.7
          $$

          $$
          Pr(Positive) = Pr(Positive|H) + Pr(Positive|barH)
          $$

          $$
          implies Pr(Positive|barH) = Pr(Positive) - Pr(Positive|H) = 0.78
          $$



          This also means,
          $$
          Pr(Negative|barH) = 0.22
          $$



          This drug clearly has an alarming false positive rate. Undertandable as it seems to classify 98% of the population as sick even though only 10% actually are. Like @drhab has pointed out, this is a classic example of Bayes' rule in action.







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              Hint:



              • $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)$


              • $Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)+Pleft(textill testedmidtextillright)Pleft(textillright)$


              Based on these equalities (do you agree that they are correct?) and your data you can find $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)$.



              Give it a try (and "discover" the so-called rule of Bayes).






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                $begingroup$

                Hint:



                • $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)$


                • $Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)+Pleft(textill testedmidtextillright)Pleft(textillright)$


                Based on these equalities (do you agree that they are correct?) and your data you can find $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)$.



                Give it a try (and "discover" the so-called rule of Bayes).






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                  2





                  $begingroup$

                  Hint:



                  • $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)$


                  • $Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)+Pleft(textill testedmidtextillright)Pleft(textillright)$


                  Based on these equalities (do you agree that they are correct?) and your data you can find $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)$.



                  Give it a try (and "discover" the so-called rule of Bayes).






                  share|cite|improve this answer









                  $endgroup$



                  Hint:



                  • $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)$


                  • $Pleft(textill testedright)=Pleft(textill testedmidtexthealthyright)Pleft(texthealthyright)+Pleft(textill testedmidtextillright)Pleft(textillright)$


                  Based on these equalities (do you agree that they are correct?) and your data you can find $Pleft(texthealthymidtextill testedright)$.



                  Give it a try (and "discover" the so-called rule of Bayes).







                  share|cite|improve this answer












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