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How many equivalence relations on S have exactly 3 equivalence classes?


How many equivalence relations $S$ on $A$ are there for which $R⊆S$ ($R$ is an equivalence relation on a set $A$, with $4$ equivalence classes)How many equivalence-relations does the class have?Homeomorphism are equivalence relations, so what are the equivalence classes?Describe equivalence classes from equivalence relationsHow to prove equivalence relationsHow many ways of having 2 Equivalence Classes with Magnitude 3Stirling numbers and equivalence classesNumber of classes an equivalence relation partitions a set XEquivalence relations S on A with R being a relation on A with 4 equivalence classes.Uncountably Many Equivalence Classes













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Let S = 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8. How many equivalence relations on S have exactly 3 equivalence classes?



The only idea I have is to use the formula for Stirling numbers of the second kind, which seems like an unnecessary amount of calculations. Thanks in advance for any help!










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Let S = 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8. How many equivalence relations on S have exactly 3 equivalence classes?



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As I mentioned in the comments, we should count the number of surjective functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. Every function uniquely defines an ordered partition of $S$ into $3$ parts. This will over-count the number of (unordered) partitions by a factor of $3!$, which correspond to the equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes.



There are a total of $3^8$ possibly functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. We need to subtract out the functions from $S$ to strict subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$. If $|U| = 1$, then there is only one function from $S$ to $U$: the constant function. There are three constant functions (one for each $U subseteq 1, 2, 3$ with $|U| = 1$).



If $|U| = 2$, then there are a total of $2^8$ functions from $S$ to $U$, including the two constant functions. Hence, the number of functions whose range is $U$ is $2^8 - 2$. There are three such subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$.



Therefore, the total number of equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes is
$$frac3^8 - 3 cdot (2^8 - 2) - 33! = 966.$$






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To cut straight to the answer ... That is exactly what the Stirling numbers of the second kind counts.



So https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_numbers_of_the_second_kind#Table_of_values ... just read off the value $S(8,3)= colorred966$.



Alternatively use the formula for these numbers
begineqnarray*
S(n,k) = frac1k! sum_i=0^k binomki i^n.
endeqnarray*

Which gives exactly the same as Theo.






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    As I mentioned in the comments, we should count the number of surjective functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. Every function uniquely defines an ordered partition of $S$ into $3$ parts. This will over-count the number of (unordered) partitions by a factor of $3!$, which correspond to the equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes.



    There are a total of $3^8$ possibly functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. We need to subtract out the functions from $S$ to strict subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$. If $|U| = 1$, then there is only one function from $S$ to $U$: the constant function. There are three constant functions (one for each $U subseteq 1, 2, 3$ with $|U| = 1$).



    If $|U| = 2$, then there are a total of $2^8$ functions from $S$ to $U$, including the two constant functions. Hence, the number of functions whose range is $U$ is $2^8 - 2$. There are three such subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$.



    Therefore, the total number of equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes is
    $$frac3^8 - 3 cdot (2^8 - 2) - 33! = 966.$$






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    $begingroup$

    As I mentioned in the comments, we should count the number of surjective functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. Every function uniquely defines an ordered partition of $S$ into $3$ parts. This will over-count the number of (unordered) partitions by a factor of $3!$, which correspond to the equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes.



    There are a total of $3^8$ possibly functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. We need to subtract out the functions from $S$ to strict subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$. If $|U| = 1$, then there is only one function from $S$ to $U$: the constant function. There are three constant functions (one for each $U subseteq 1, 2, 3$ with $|U| = 1$).



    If $|U| = 2$, then there are a total of $2^8$ functions from $S$ to $U$, including the two constant functions. Hence, the number of functions whose range is $U$ is $2^8 - 2$. There are three such subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$.



    Therefore, the total number of equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes is
    $$frac3^8 - 3 cdot (2^8 - 2) - 33! = 966.$$






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    $begingroup$

    As I mentioned in the comments, we should count the number of surjective functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. Every function uniquely defines an ordered partition of $S$ into $3$ parts. This will over-count the number of (unordered) partitions by a factor of $3!$, which correspond to the equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes.



    There are a total of $3^8$ possibly functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. We need to subtract out the functions from $S$ to strict subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$. If $|U| = 1$, then there is only one function from $S$ to $U$: the constant function. There are three constant functions (one for each $U subseteq 1, 2, 3$ with $|U| = 1$).



    If $|U| = 2$, then there are a total of $2^8$ functions from $S$ to $U$, including the two constant functions. Hence, the number of functions whose range is $U$ is $2^8 - 2$. There are three such subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$.



    Therefore, the total number of equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes is
    $$frac3^8 - 3 cdot (2^8 - 2) - 33! = 966.$$






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    As I mentioned in the comments, we should count the number of surjective functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. Every function uniquely defines an ordered partition of $S$ into $3$ parts. This will over-count the number of (unordered) partitions by a factor of $3!$, which correspond to the equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes.



    There are a total of $3^8$ possibly functions from $S$ to $1, 2, 3$. We need to subtract out the functions from $S$ to strict subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$. If $|U| = 1$, then there is only one function from $S$ to $U$: the constant function. There are three constant functions (one for each $U subseteq 1, 2, 3$ with $|U| = 1$).



    If $|U| = 2$, then there are a total of $2^8$ functions from $S$ to $U$, including the two constant functions. Hence, the number of functions whose range is $U$ is $2^8 - 2$. There are three such subsets $U$ of $1, 2, 3$.



    Therefore, the total number of equivalence relations on $S$ with $3$ classes is
    $$frac3^8 - 3 cdot (2^8 - 2) - 33! = 966.$$







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    To cut straight to the answer ... That is exactly what the Stirling numbers of the second kind counts.



    So https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_numbers_of_the_second_kind#Table_of_values ... just read off the value $S(8,3)= colorred966$.



    Alternatively use the formula for these numbers
    begineqnarray*
    S(n,k) = frac1k! sum_i=0^k binomki i^n.
    endeqnarray*

    Which gives exactly the same as Theo.






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      To cut straight to the answer ... That is exactly what the Stirling numbers of the second kind counts.



      So https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_numbers_of_the_second_kind#Table_of_values ... just read off the value $S(8,3)= colorred966$.



      Alternatively use the formula for these numbers
      begineqnarray*
      S(n,k) = frac1k! sum_i=0^k binomki i^n.
      endeqnarray*

      Which gives exactly the same as Theo.






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        To cut straight to the answer ... That is exactly what the Stirling numbers of the second kind counts.



        So https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_numbers_of_the_second_kind#Table_of_values ... just read off the value $S(8,3)= colorred966$.



        Alternatively use the formula for these numbers
        begineqnarray*
        S(n,k) = frac1k! sum_i=0^k binomki i^n.
        endeqnarray*

        Which gives exactly the same as Theo.






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        To cut straight to the answer ... That is exactly what the Stirling numbers of the second kind counts.



        So https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stirling_numbers_of_the_second_kind#Table_of_values ... just read off the value $S(8,3)= colorred966$.



        Alternatively use the formula for these numbers
        begineqnarray*
        S(n,k) = frac1k! sum_i=0^k binomki i^n.
        endeqnarray*

        Which gives exactly the same as Theo.







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