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Prove that $a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da geq pi$
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If $a,b,c,d >0$, and $a+b+c+d=4$, prove that
$$a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da geq pi.$$
I don't think Jensen's inequality will help here, but I think first determining where equality holds will be useful. Maybe taking the logarithm or exponential of both sides will also be useful, but I want to in the end get rid of the plus signs in order to simplify it.
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If $a,b,c,d >0$, and $a+b+c+d=4$, prove that
$$a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da geq pi.$$
I don't think Jensen's inequality will help here, but I think first determining where equality holds will be useful. Maybe taking the logarithm or exponential of both sides will also be useful, but I want to in the end get rid of the plus signs in order to simplify it.
inequality
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This reminds me the inequality $a^a+b^b>a^b+b^a$ from Wikipédia. Not sure if it help though...
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– Surb
May 6 '16 at 20:54
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May I ask how you came across this problem? Also, do you know whether the constant $pi$ is optimal?
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– Wojowu
May 6 '16 at 20:55
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@Wojowu It is from a problem solving website. Yes, I believe equality is achieved.
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– Puzzled417
May 6 '16 at 20:59
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The best I've got out of Mathematica is3.1605859174508652189…, usingNMinimize[(a^2)^(a^2 b^2) + (b^2)^(b^2 c^2) + (c^2)^(c^2 d^2) + (d^2)^(d^2 a^2), a != 0 && b != 0 && c != 0 && d != 0 && a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 == 4, a, b, c, d, WorkingPrecision -> 100]
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– Patrick Stevens
May 6 '16 at 21:26
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An interesting inequality, but even without the numerical evidence for the bound being around $3.16$ there doesn't seem to be any reason for $pi$ to feature here. Seems arbitrary
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– Yuriy S
Apr 25 '18 at 10:04
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If $a,b,c,d >0$, and $a+b+c+d=4$, prove that
$$a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da geq pi.$$
I don't think Jensen's inequality will help here, but I think first determining where equality holds will be useful. Maybe taking the logarithm or exponential of both sides will also be useful, but I want to in the end get rid of the plus signs in order to simplify it.
inequality
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If $a,b,c,d >0$, and $a+b+c+d=4$, prove that
$$a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da geq pi.$$
I don't think Jensen's inequality will help here, but I think first determining where equality holds will be useful. Maybe taking the logarithm or exponential of both sides will also be useful, but I want to in the end get rid of the plus signs in order to simplify it.
inequality
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This reminds me the inequality $a^a+b^b>a^b+b^a$ from Wikipédia. Not sure if it help though...
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– Surb
May 6 '16 at 20:54
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May I ask how you came across this problem? Also, do you know whether the constant $pi$ is optimal?
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– Wojowu
May 6 '16 at 20:55
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@Wojowu It is from a problem solving website. Yes, I believe equality is achieved.
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– Puzzled417
May 6 '16 at 20:59
2
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The best I've got out of Mathematica is3.1605859174508652189…, usingNMinimize[(a^2)^(a^2 b^2) + (b^2)^(b^2 c^2) + (c^2)^(c^2 d^2) + (d^2)^(d^2 a^2), a != 0 && b != 0 && c != 0 && d != 0 && a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 == 4, a, b, c, d, WorkingPrecision -> 100]
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– Patrick Stevens
May 6 '16 at 21:26
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An interesting inequality, but even without the numerical evidence for the bound being around $3.16$ there doesn't seem to be any reason for $pi$ to feature here. Seems arbitrary
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– Yuriy S
Apr 25 '18 at 10:04
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show 9 more comments
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This reminds me the inequality $a^a+b^b>a^b+b^a$ from Wikipédia. Not sure if it help though...
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– Surb
May 6 '16 at 20:54
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May I ask how you came across this problem? Also, do you know whether the constant $pi$ is optimal?
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– Wojowu
May 6 '16 at 20:55
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@Wojowu It is from a problem solving website. Yes, I believe equality is achieved.
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– Puzzled417
May 6 '16 at 20:59
2
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The best I've got out of Mathematica is3.1605859174508652189…, usingNMinimize[(a^2)^(a^2 b^2) + (b^2)^(b^2 c^2) + (c^2)^(c^2 d^2) + (d^2)^(d^2 a^2), a != 0 && b != 0 && c != 0 && d != 0 && a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 == 4, a, b, c, d, WorkingPrecision -> 100]
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– Patrick Stevens
May 6 '16 at 21:26
3
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An interesting inequality, but even without the numerical evidence for the bound being around $3.16$ there doesn't seem to be any reason for $pi$ to feature here. Seems arbitrary
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– Yuriy S
Apr 25 '18 at 10:04
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This reminds me the inequality $a^a+b^b>a^b+b^a$ from Wikipédia. Not sure if it help though...
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– Surb
May 6 '16 at 20:54
$begingroup$
This reminds me the inequality $a^a+b^b>a^b+b^a$ from Wikipédia. Not sure if it help though...
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– Surb
May 6 '16 at 20:54
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May I ask how you came across this problem? Also, do you know whether the constant $pi$ is optimal?
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– Wojowu
May 6 '16 at 20:55
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May I ask how you came across this problem? Also, do you know whether the constant $pi$ is optimal?
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– Wojowu
May 6 '16 at 20:55
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@Wojowu It is from a problem solving website. Yes, I believe equality is achieved.
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– Puzzled417
May 6 '16 at 20:59
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@Wojowu It is from a problem solving website. Yes, I believe equality is achieved.
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– Puzzled417
May 6 '16 at 20:59
2
2
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The best I've got out of Mathematica is
3.1605859174508652189…, using NMinimize[(a^2)^(a^2 b^2) + (b^2)^(b^2 c^2) + (c^2)^(c^2 d^2) + (d^2)^(d^2 a^2), a != 0 && b != 0 && c != 0 && d != 0 && a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 == 4, a, b, c, d, WorkingPrecision -> 100]$endgroup$
– Patrick Stevens
May 6 '16 at 21:26
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The best I've got out of Mathematica is
3.1605859174508652189…, using NMinimize[(a^2)^(a^2 b^2) + (b^2)^(b^2 c^2) + (c^2)^(c^2 d^2) + (d^2)^(d^2 a^2), a != 0 && b != 0 && c != 0 && d != 0 && a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 == 4, a, b, c, d, WorkingPrecision -> 100]$endgroup$
– Patrick Stevens
May 6 '16 at 21:26
3
3
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An interesting inequality, but even without the numerical evidence for the bound being around $3.16$ there doesn't seem to be any reason for $pi$ to feature here. Seems arbitrary
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– Yuriy S
Apr 25 '18 at 10:04
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An interesting inequality, but even without the numerical evidence for the bound being around $3.16$ there doesn't seem to be any reason for $pi$ to feature here. Seems arbitrary
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– Yuriy S
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TL;DR: The inequality has been proven for all cases except the following five:
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.207$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.256$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$3 < a < 4$, $b < 0.129$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
This partial answer heavily uses the results that for a real number $k>0$,
$min x^kx=(sqrt[e]e^k)^-1$,
$k^kx>k^kx_0$ for $k>1$ and $x>x_0$,
$k^kx<k^kx_0$ for $k<1$ and $x>x_0$.
As the sum $$S=a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da$$ is cyclic, we need only concern $a=1$ and $a>1$ to prove the truth of the inequality. Thus there are sixteen cases that we need to consider (note that in most cases the condition $a+b+c+d=4$ is implicitly used).
$1)$ $a=b=c=d=1$
Clearly $S=1+1+1+1>pi$.
$2)$ $a=b=1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$3)$ $a=b=1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$4)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$5)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$6)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$7)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $bge0.6$, $cle2.4$ so $Sge1+0.6^0.6cdot2.4+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$. If $b<0.6$, $c>1.4$ so $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+min1.4^1.4d+d^d>pi$.
$8)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $bge0.89$, $dle2.11$ so $Sge1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2.11)^-1+1>pi$. If $b<0.89$, $3>d>1.11$ so $Sge 1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+1.11^1.11>pi$.
$9)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$10)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $a<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$11)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$12)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $dge0.675$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^0.675)^-1+0.675^0.675>pi$. If $age2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>2^2+0+0+0>pi$. If $a<2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$13)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $3>a>2$, $c<2$ so $bge0.207$, $S>2^2cdot0.207+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
$14)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $dge2$, $S>0+0+0+2^2>pi$. If $d<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$15)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$16)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $4>a>3$, $bge0.129$, $S>3^3cdot0.129+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^4)^-1>pi$. If $3>a>2$, $bge0.256$, $S>2^2cdot0.256+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
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The problem may be simplified with AM-GM inequality:
$$a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^dageq 4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
The equality between AM and GM is valid if and only if all of the factors are equal so we must solve:
$$a^ab=b^bc=c^cd=d^da Rightarrow (4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)b=b^bc=c^cd=d^d(4-b-c-d) $$
And now we can reduce this to a system:
$$begincases
(4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)=b^c \
b^b=c^d \
c^c=d^(4-b-c-d) \
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$$
Unluckly i'm an high school noob and i have only geogebra that explodes if I put one of these equations. However we must find all of the solutions of the system and verify that for each of these:
$$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
I found only the trivial one (1,1,1) and in this case trivially $$ 4 geq pi $$
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This method does not work. The inequality $4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi$ does not hold for all $a,b,c,d$ that satisfy the condition. Try $a=3.2794,b=0.0001,c=0.2751,d=0.4454$. Then $a+b+c+d=4$ but $$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14=2.86...$$ which is not more than $pi$.
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TL;DR: The inequality has been proven for all cases except the following five:
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.207$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.256$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$3 < a < 4$, $b < 0.129$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
This partial answer heavily uses the results that for a real number $k>0$,
$min x^kx=(sqrt[e]e^k)^-1$,
$k^kx>k^kx_0$ for $k>1$ and $x>x_0$,
$k^kx<k^kx_0$ for $k<1$ and $x>x_0$.
As the sum $$S=a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da$$ is cyclic, we need only concern $a=1$ and $a>1$ to prove the truth of the inequality. Thus there are sixteen cases that we need to consider (note that in most cases the condition $a+b+c+d=4$ is implicitly used).
$1)$ $a=b=c=d=1$
Clearly $S=1+1+1+1>pi$.
$2)$ $a=b=1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$3)$ $a=b=1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$4)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$5)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$6)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$7)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $bge0.6$, $cle2.4$ so $Sge1+0.6^0.6cdot2.4+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$. If $b<0.6$, $c>1.4$ so $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+min1.4^1.4d+d^d>pi$.
$8)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $bge0.89$, $dle2.11$ so $Sge1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2.11)^-1+1>pi$. If $b<0.89$, $3>d>1.11$ so $Sge 1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+1.11^1.11>pi$.
$9)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$10)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $a<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$11)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$12)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $dge0.675$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^0.675)^-1+0.675^0.675>pi$. If $age2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>2^2+0+0+0>pi$. If $a<2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$13)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $3>a>2$, $c<2$ so $bge0.207$, $S>2^2cdot0.207+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
$14)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $dge2$, $S>0+0+0+2^2>pi$. If $d<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$15)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$16)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $4>a>3$, $bge0.129$, $S>3^3cdot0.129+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^4)^-1>pi$. If $3>a>2$, $bge0.256$, $S>2^2cdot0.256+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
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TL;DR: The inequality has been proven for all cases except the following five:
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.207$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.256$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$3 < a < 4$, $b < 0.129$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
This partial answer heavily uses the results that for a real number $k>0$,
$min x^kx=(sqrt[e]e^k)^-1$,
$k^kx>k^kx_0$ for $k>1$ and $x>x_0$,
$k^kx<k^kx_0$ for $k<1$ and $x>x_0$.
As the sum $$S=a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da$$ is cyclic, we need only concern $a=1$ and $a>1$ to prove the truth of the inequality. Thus there are sixteen cases that we need to consider (note that in most cases the condition $a+b+c+d=4$ is implicitly used).
$1)$ $a=b=c=d=1$
Clearly $S=1+1+1+1>pi$.
$2)$ $a=b=1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$3)$ $a=b=1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$4)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$5)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$6)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$7)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $bge0.6$, $cle2.4$ so $Sge1+0.6^0.6cdot2.4+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$. If $b<0.6$, $c>1.4$ so $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+min1.4^1.4d+d^d>pi$.
$8)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $bge0.89$, $dle2.11$ so $Sge1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2.11)^-1+1>pi$. If $b<0.89$, $3>d>1.11$ so $Sge 1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+1.11^1.11>pi$.
$9)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$10)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $a<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$11)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$12)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $dge0.675$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^0.675)^-1+0.675^0.675>pi$. If $age2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>2^2+0+0+0>pi$. If $a<2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$13)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $3>a>2$, $c<2$ so $bge0.207$, $S>2^2cdot0.207+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
$14)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $dge2$, $S>0+0+0+2^2>pi$. If $d<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$15)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$16)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $4>a>3$, $bge0.129$, $S>3^3cdot0.129+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^4)^-1>pi$. If $3>a>2$, $bge0.256$, $S>2^2cdot0.256+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
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TL;DR: The inequality has been proven for all cases except the following five:
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.207$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.256$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$3 < a < 4$, $b < 0.129$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
This partial answer heavily uses the results that for a real number $k>0$,
$min x^kx=(sqrt[e]e^k)^-1$,
$k^kx>k^kx_0$ for $k>1$ and $x>x_0$,
$k^kx<k^kx_0$ for $k<1$ and $x>x_0$.
As the sum $$S=a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da$$ is cyclic, we need only concern $a=1$ and $a>1$ to prove the truth of the inequality. Thus there are sixteen cases that we need to consider (note that in most cases the condition $a+b+c+d=4$ is implicitly used).
$1)$ $a=b=c=d=1$
Clearly $S=1+1+1+1>pi$.
$2)$ $a=b=1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$3)$ $a=b=1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$4)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$5)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$6)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$7)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $bge0.6$, $cle2.4$ so $Sge1+0.6^0.6cdot2.4+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$. If $b<0.6$, $c>1.4$ so $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+min1.4^1.4d+d^d>pi$.
$8)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $bge0.89$, $dle2.11$ so $Sge1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2.11)^-1+1>pi$. If $b<0.89$, $3>d>1.11$ so $Sge 1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+1.11^1.11>pi$.
$9)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$10)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $a<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$11)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$12)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $dge0.675$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^0.675)^-1+0.675^0.675>pi$. If $age2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>2^2+0+0+0>pi$. If $a<2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$13)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $3>a>2$, $c<2$ so $bge0.207$, $S>2^2cdot0.207+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
$14)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $dge2$, $S>0+0+0+2^2>pi$. If $d<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$15)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$16)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $4>a>3$, $bge0.129$, $S>3^3cdot0.129+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^4)^-1>pi$. If $3>a>2$, $bge0.256$, $S>2^2cdot0.256+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
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TL;DR: The inequality has been proven for all cases except the following five:
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$1 < a < 2$, $b < 1$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.207$, $c > 1$, $d < 1$
$2 < a < 3$, $b < 0.256$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
$3 < a < 4$, $b < 0.129$, $c < 1$, $d < 1$
This partial answer heavily uses the results that for a real number $k>0$,
$min x^kx=(sqrt[e]e^k)^-1$,
$k^kx>k^kx_0$ for $k>1$ and $x>x_0$,
$k^kx<k^kx_0$ for $k<1$ and $x>x_0$.
As the sum $$S=a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^da$$ is cyclic, we need only concern $a=1$ and $a>1$ to prove the truth of the inequality. Thus there are sixteen cases that we need to consider (note that in most cases the condition $a+b+c+d=4$ is implicitly used).
$1)$ $a=b=c=d=1$
Clearly $S=1+1+1+1>pi$.
$2)$ $a=b=1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$3)$ $a=b=1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$4)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$5)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$6)$ $a=1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
We have $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$.
$7)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $bge0.6$, $cle2.4$ so $Sge1+0.6^0.6cdot2.4+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1>pi$. If $b<0.6$, $c>1.4$ so $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+min1.4^1.4d+d^d>pi$.
$8)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $bge0.89$, $dle2.11$ so $Sge1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2.11)^-1+1>pi$. If $b<0.89$, $3>d>1.11$ so $Sge 1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1+1.11^1.11>pi$.
$9)$ $a=1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$10)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
As $a<2$, $S>1+1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$11)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
As $d<2$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$12)$ $a>1$, $b>1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $dge0.675$, $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e^0.675)^-1+0.675^0.675>pi$. If $age2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>2^2+0+0+0>pi$. If $a<2$, $d<0.675$, then $S>1+1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1>pi$.
$13)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d<1$
If $3>a>2$, $c<2$ so $bge0.207$, $S>2^2cdot0.207+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
$14)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d>1$
If $dge2$, $S>0+0+0+2^2>pi$. If $d<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1>pi$.
$15)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c>1$, $d>1$
As $c<2$, $S>1+(sqrt[e]e^2)^-1+1+1>pi$.
$16)$ $a>1$, $b<1$, $c<1$, $d<1$
If $4>a>3$, $bge0.129$, $S>3^3cdot0.129+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^4)^-1>pi$. If $3>a>2$, $bge0.256$, $S>2^2cdot0.256+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e)^-1+(sqrt[e]e^3)^-1>pi$.
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The problem may be simplified with AM-GM inequality:
$$a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^dageq 4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
The equality between AM and GM is valid if and only if all of the factors are equal so we must solve:
$$a^ab=b^bc=c^cd=d^da Rightarrow (4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)b=b^bc=c^cd=d^d(4-b-c-d) $$
And now we can reduce this to a system:
$$begincases
(4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)=b^c \
b^b=c^d \
c^c=d^(4-b-c-d) \
endcases
$$
Unluckly i'm an high school noob and i have only geogebra that explodes if I put one of these equations. However we must find all of the solutions of the system and verify that for each of these:
$$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
I found only the trivial one (1,1,1) and in this case trivially $$ 4 geq pi $$
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This method does not work. The inequality $4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi$ does not hold for all $a,b,c,d$ that satisfy the condition. Try $a=3.2794,b=0.0001,c=0.2751,d=0.4454$. Then $a+b+c+d=4$ but $$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14=2.86...$$ which is not more than $pi$.
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– TheSimpliFire
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The problem may be simplified with AM-GM inequality:
$$a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^dageq 4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
The equality between AM and GM is valid if and only if all of the factors are equal so we must solve:
$$a^ab=b^bc=c^cd=d^da Rightarrow (4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)b=b^bc=c^cd=d^d(4-b-c-d) $$
And now we can reduce this to a system:
$$begincases
(4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)=b^c \
b^b=c^d \
c^c=d^(4-b-c-d) \
endcases
$$
Unluckly i'm an high school noob and i have only geogebra that explodes if I put one of these equations. However we must find all of the solutions of the system and verify that for each of these:
$$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
I found only the trivial one (1,1,1) and in this case trivially $$ 4 geq pi $$
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1
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This method does not work. The inequality $4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi$ does not hold for all $a,b,c,d$ that satisfy the condition. Try $a=3.2794,b=0.0001,c=0.2751,d=0.4454$. Then $a+b+c+d=4$ but $$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14=2.86...$$ which is not more than $pi$.
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– TheSimpliFire
Mar 24 at 18:51
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The problem may be simplified with AM-GM inequality:
$$a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^dageq 4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
The equality between AM and GM is valid if and only if all of the factors are equal so we must solve:
$$a^ab=b^bc=c^cd=d^da Rightarrow (4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)b=b^bc=c^cd=d^d(4-b-c-d) $$
And now we can reduce this to a system:
$$begincases
(4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)=b^c \
b^b=c^d \
c^c=d^(4-b-c-d) \
endcases
$$
Unluckly i'm an high school noob and i have only geogebra that explodes if I put one of these equations. However we must find all of the solutions of the system and verify that for each of these:
$$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
I found only the trivial one (1,1,1) and in this case trivially $$ 4 geq pi $$
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The problem may be simplified with AM-GM inequality:
$$a^ab+b^bc+c^cd+d^dageq 4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
The equality between AM and GM is valid if and only if all of the factors are equal so we must solve:
$$a^ab=b^bc=c^cd=d^da Rightarrow (4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)b=b^bc=c^cd=d^d(4-b-c-d) $$
And now we can reduce this to a system:
$$begincases
(4-b-c-d)^(4-b-c-d)=b^c \
b^b=c^d \
c^c=d^(4-b-c-d) \
endcases
$$
Unluckly i'm an high school noob and i have only geogebra that explodes if I put one of these equations. However we must find all of the solutions of the system and verify that for each of these:
$$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi $$
I found only the trivial one (1,1,1) and in this case trivially $$ 4 geq pi $$
answered Mar 24 at 16:52
EurekaEureka
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This method does not work. The inequality $4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi$ does not hold for all $a,b,c,d$ that satisfy the condition. Try $a=3.2794,b=0.0001,c=0.2751,d=0.4454$. Then $a+b+c+d=4$ but $$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14=2.86...$$ which is not more than $pi$.
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– TheSimpliFire
Mar 24 at 18:51
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This method does not work. The inequality $4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi$ does not hold for all $a,b,c,d$ that satisfy the condition. Try $a=3.2794,b=0.0001,c=0.2751,d=0.4454$. Then $a+b+c+d=4$ but $$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14=2.86...$$ which is not more than $pi$.
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– TheSimpliFire
Mar 24 at 18:51
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1
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This method does not work. The inequality $4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi$ does not hold for all $a,b,c,d$ that satisfy the condition. Try $a=3.2794,b=0.0001,c=0.2751,d=0.4454$. Then $a+b+c+d=4$ but $$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14=2.86...$$ which is not more than $pi$.
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– TheSimpliFire
Mar 24 at 18:51
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This method does not work. The inequality $4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14 geq pi$ does not hold for all $a,b,c,d$ that satisfy the condition. Try $a=3.2794,b=0.0001,c=0.2751,d=0.4454$. Then $a+b+c+d=4$ but $$4(a^abb^bcc^cdd^da)^frac14=2.86...$$ which is not more than $pi$.
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– TheSimpliFire
Mar 24 at 18:51
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This reminds me the inequality $a^a+b^b>a^b+b^a$ from Wikipédia. Not sure if it help though...
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– Surb
May 6 '16 at 20:54
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May I ask how you came across this problem? Also, do you know whether the constant $pi$ is optimal?
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– Wojowu
May 6 '16 at 20:55
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@Wojowu It is from a problem solving website. Yes, I believe equality is achieved.
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– Puzzled417
May 6 '16 at 20:59
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The best I've got out of Mathematica is
3.1605859174508652189…, usingNMinimize[(a^2)^(a^2 b^2) + (b^2)^(b^2 c^2) + (c^2)^(c^2 d^2) + (d^2)^(d^2 a^2), a != 0 && b != 0 && c != 0 && d != 0 && a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + d^2 == 4, a, b, c, d, WorkingPrecision -> 100]$endgroup$
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An interesting inequality, but even without the numerical evidence for the bound being around $3.16$ there doesn't seem to be any reason for $pi$ to feature here. Seems arbitrary
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– Yuriy S
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