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Calculating the area of a surface given by a set $S$


Calculate the volume bounded by the surface $(x^2+y^2+z^2)^2 = x$Is it possible to calculate a surface integral of a vector field when the vector field is described in non-cartesian coordinates?Parametrization and area of surfaceCalculating the divergence of the Gravitational field $nabla cdot vecF$Finding flux over a surface (parameterization)Confused on the $dS$ component of a surface integralCalculating surface area of $x^2 + y^2 + z^2 = 4$, $z geq 1$Calculating the mass of the surface of a semisphere.Find the range of surface integral using spherical coordinatesParametrizing a curve for calculating integral of a vector field over a curve $C$













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$S=(x,y,z):x^2+y^2+z^2=4, (x-1)^2+y^2 leq 1 $.



$x^2+y^2+z^2=4 iff fracx^24+fracy^24 +fracz^24=1$



I'm not exactly sure what to parametrize the set $S$ by I thought of using spherical coordinates, in particular $G(theta, phi)=(frac12costheta sinphi, frac12sintheta sinphi, frac12cosphi)$



$(x-1)^2+y^2 leq 1$ I'm not sure how this is contributing to the work..










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    Think about what $S$ looks like. The first equation gives a sphere of radius 4 centered at the origin and the second equation restricts to the portion of the sphere inside the closed right circular cylinder centered at $(1,0)$ of radius $1$. As such, I think cylindrical coordinates would probably be helpful. Admittedly, I haven't actually attempted any computations.
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$S=(x,y,z):x^2+y^2+z^2=4, (x-1)^2+y^2 leq 1 $.



$x^2+y^2+z^2=4 iff fracx^24+fracy^24 +fracz^24=1$



I'm not exactly sure what to parametrize the set $S$ by I thought of using spherical coordinates, in particular $G(theta, phi)=(frac12costheta sinphi, frac12sintheta sinphi, frac12cosphi)$



$(x-1)^2+y^2 leq 1$ I'm not sure how this is contributing to the work..










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    Think about what $S$ looks like. The first equation gives a sphere of radius 4 centered at the origin and the second equation restricts to the portion of the sphere inside the closed right circular cylinder centered at $(1,0)$ of radius $1$. As such, I think cylindrical coordinates would probably be helpful. Admittedly, I haven't actually attempted any computations.
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$S=(x,y,z):x^2+y^2+z^2=4, (x-1)^2+y^2 leq 1 $.



$x^2+y^2+z^2=4 iff fracx^24+fracy^24 +fracz^24=1$



I'm not exactly sure what to parametrize the set $S$ by I thought of using spherical coordinates, in particular $G(theta, phi)=(frac12costheta sinphi, frac12sintheta sinphi, frac12cosphi)$



$(x-1)^2+y^2 leq 1$ I'm not sure how this is contributing to the work..










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$S=(x,y,z):x^2+y^2+z^2=4, (x-1)^2+y^2 leq 1 $.



$x^2+y^2+z^2=4 iff fracx^24+fracy^24 +fracz^24=1$



I'm not exactly sure what to parametrize the set $S$ by I thought of using spherical coordinates, in particular $G(theta, phi)=(frac12costheta sinphi, frac12sintheta sinphi, frac12cosphi)$



$(x-1)^2+y^2 leq 1$ I'm not sure how this is contributing to the work..







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    Think about what $S$ looks like. The first equation gives a sphere of radius 4 centered at the origin and the second equation restricts to the portion of the sphere inside the closed right circular cylinder centered at $(1,0)$ of radius $1$. As such, I think cylindrical coordinates would probably be helpful. Admittedly, I haven't actually attempted any computations.
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    Think about what $S$ looks like. The first equation gives a sphere of radius 4 centered at the origin and the second equation restricts to the portion of the sphere inside the closed right circular cylinder centered at $(1,0)$ of radius $1$. As such, I think cylindrical coordinates would probably be helpful. Admittedly, I haven't actually attempted any computations.
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Think about what $S$ looks like. The first equation gives a sphere of radius 4 centered at the origin and the second equation restricts to the portion of the sphere inside the closed right circular cylinder centered at $(1,0)$ of radius $1$. As such, I think cylindrical coordinates would probably be helpful. Admittedly, I haven't actually attempted any computations.
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Think about what $S$ looks like. The first equation gives a sphere of radius 4 centered at the origin and the second equation restricts to the portion of the sphere inside the closed right circular cylinder centered at $(1,0)$ of radius $1$. As such, I think cylindrical coordinates would probably be helpful. Admittedly, I haven't actually attempted any computations.
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The set here is a pair of spherical caps - the result of intersecting a sphere with the inside of an off-center cylinder. The projection of the sphere in the $xy$-plane is a circle of radius $2$, while the projection of the cylinder is a circle of radius $1$, off-center by $1$. They touch on the boundary, but the smaller circle is entirely contained in the larger one - which means we get a cap with $z>0$ and another with $z<0$.



So, then, parametrizing. First, rectangular coordinates:

We have $(x-1)^2+y^2le 1$, and $z=pmsqrt4-x^2-y^2$. That gives us two parametrized regions:
$$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$
$$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=-sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$



Well, that's a lot of square roots. Definitely not the easiest to work with.



How about cylindrical coordinates? We've got two circles here, so there are two ways to go. First, cylindrical with respect to the small circle:
$$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
$$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=-sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
Those $z$ formulas simplify a bit, but there will still be a $costheta$ term in there.



Next, cylindrical with respect to the large circle:
$$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=sqrt4-r^2$$
$$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=-sqrt4-r^2$$
In this option, we've shunted the more complicated parts off into the bounds for $r$ and $theta$. Expanding that inequality out, it becomes
beginalign*r^2cos^2theta-2rcostheta+1+r^2sin^2theta &le 1\
r^2 &le 2rcosthetaendalign*

So then, $-dfracpi2lethetaledfracpi2$ and $0le rle 2costheta$. That looks like the way to go.



So, now that you have a parametrization, can you set up and solve the area integral?






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    Thank you very much for your thorough answer. Do you have any general advice for parametrizing a set by any chance? I just can't seem to understand or see how to do it... like everything else I am good with but these parametrization is what gives me the most amount of trouble.. Do you have any recommended book where it goes through plenty of these examples that I can from?
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    Honestly, I don't have any formal process here. It's a matter of building things up from a library of standard elements - sometimes writing one thing as a function of others, sometimes using angles to handle a circle or disk, sometimes basing parameters on a process used to generate the set. Doing examples is definitely a good way to learn, but I don't know any good sources for them.
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Using spherical coordinates could be a better option. Use
$$x = rcostheta cosphi$$
$$y = rsintheta cosphi $$
$$z = rsinphi $$
Where in this case $r = 2$



Then the second equation becomes
$$r^2cos^2phi - 2rcostheta cosphi = 0$$
$$implies rcosphi = 2costheta $$
$$implies cosphi = costheta $$
$$implies phi = theta $$



The integral for the surface is



$$2int_0^fracpi2int_0^theta r^2cosphi dphi dtheta $$
$$= 8int_0^fracpi2sintheta dtheta = 8$$






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    The set here is a pair of spherical caps - the result of intersecting a sphere with the inside of an off-center cylinder. The projection of the sphere in the $xy$-plane is a circle of radius $2$, while the projection of the cylinder is a circle of radius $1$, off-center by $1$. They touch on the boundary, but the smaller circle is entirely contained in the larger one - which means we get a cap with $z>0$ and another with $z<0$.



    So, then, parametrizing. First, rectangular coordinates:

    We have $(x-1)^2+y^2le 1$, and $z=pmsqrt4-x^2-y^2$. That gives us two parametrized regions:
    $$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$
    $$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=-sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$



    Well, that's a lot of square roots. Definitely not the easiest to work with.



    How about cylindrical coordinates? We've got two circles here, so there are two ways to go. First, cylindrical with respect to the small circle:
    $$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
    $$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=-sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
    Those $z$ formulas simplify a bit, but there will still be a $costheta$ term in there.



    Next, cylindrical with respect to the large circle:
    $$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=sqrt4-r^2$$
    $$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=-sqrt4-r^2$$
    In this option, we've shunted the more complicated parts off into the bounds for $r$ and $theta$. Expanding that inequality out, it becomes
    beginalign*r^2cos^2theta-2rcostheta+1+r^2sin^2theta &le 1\
    r^2 &le 2rcosthetaendalign*

    So then, $-dfracpi2lethetaledfracpi2$ and $0le rle 2costheta$. That looks like the way to go.



    So, now that you have a parametrization, can you set up and solve the area integral?






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      Thank you very much for your thorough answer. Do you have any general advice for parametrizing a set by any chance? I just can't seem to understand or see how to do it... like everything else I am good with but these parametrization is what gives me the most amount of trouble.. Do you have any recommended book where it goes through plenty of these examples that I can from?
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      Honestly, I don't have any formal process here. It's a matter of building things up from a library of standard elements - sometimes writing one thing as a function of others, sometimes using angles to handle a circle or disk, sometimes basing parameters on a process used to generate the set. Doing examples is definitely a good way to learn, but I don't know any good sources for them.
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    $begingroup$

    The set here is a pair of spherical caps - the result of intersecting a sphere with the inside of an off-center cylinder. The projection of the sphere in the $xy$-plane is a circle of radius $2$, while the projection of the cylinder is a circle of radius $1$, off-center by $1$. They touch on the boundary, but the smaller circle is entirely contained in the larger one - which means we get a cap with $z>0$ and another with $z<0$.



    So, then, parametrizing. First, rectangular coordinates:

    We have $(x-1)^2+y^2le 1$, and $z=pmsqrt4-x^2-y^2$. That gives us two parametrized regions:
    $$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$
    $$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=-sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$



    Well, that's a lot of square roots. Definitely not the easiest to work with.



    How about cylindrical coordinates? We've got two circles here, so there are two ways to go. First, cylindrical with respect to the small circle:
    $$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
    $$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=-sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
    Those $z$ formulas simplify a bit, but there will still be a $costheta$ term in there.



    Next, cylindrical with respect to the large circle:
    $$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=sqrt4-r^2$$
    $$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=-sqrt4-r^2$$
    In this option, we've shunted the more complicated parts off into the bounds for $r$ and $theta$. Expanding that inequality out, it becomes
    beginalign*r^2cos^2theta-2rcostheta+1+r^2sin^2theta &le 1\
    r^2 &le 2rcosthetaendalign*

    So then, $-dfracpi2lethetaledfracpi2$ and $0le rle 2costheta$. That looks like the way to go.



    So, now that you have a parametrization, can you set up and solve the area integral?






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    • $begingroup$
      Thank you very much for your thorough answer. Do you have any general advice for parametrizing a set by any chance? I just can't seem to understand or see how to do it... like everything else I am good with but these parametrization is what gives me the most amount of trouble.. Do you have any recommended book where it goes through plenty of these examples that I can from?
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    • $begingroup$
      Honestly, I don't have any formal process here. It's a matter of building things up from a library of standard elements - sometimes writing one thing as a function of others, sometimes using angles to handle a circle or disk, sometimes basing parameters on a process used to generate the set. Doing examples is definitely a good way to learn, but I don't know any good sources for them.
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    $begingroup$

    The set here is a pair of spherical caps - the result of intersecting a sphere with the inside of an off-center cylinder. The projection of the sphere in the $xy$-plane is a circle of radius $2$, while the projection of the cylinder is a circle of radius $1$, off-center by $1$. They touch on the boundary, but the smaller circle is entirely contained in the larger one - which means we get a cap with $z>0$ and another with $z<0$.



    So, then, parametrizing. First, rectangular coordinates:

    We have $(x-1)^2+y^2le 1$, and $z=pmsqrt4-x^2-y^2$. That gives us two parametrized regions:
    $$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$
    $$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=-sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$



    Well, that's a lot of square roots. Definitely not the easiest to work with.



    How about cylindrical coordinates? We've got two circles here, so there are two ways to go. First, cylindrical with respect to the small circle:
    $$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
    $$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=-sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
    Those $z$ formulas simplify a bit, but there will still be a $costheta$ term in there.



    Next, cylindrical with respect to the large circle:
    $$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=sqrt4-r^2$$
    $$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=-sqrt4-r^2$$
    In this option, we've shunted the more complicated parts off into the bounds for $r$ and $theta$. Expanding that inequality out, it becomes
    beginalign*r^2cos^2theta-2rcostheta+1+r^2sin^2theta &le 1\
    r^2 &le 2rcosthetaendalign*

    So then, $-dfracpi2lethetaledfracpi2$ and $0le rle 2costheta$. That looks like the way to go.



    So, now that you have a parametrization, can you set up and solve the area integral?






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    The set here is a pair of spherical caps - the result of intersecting a sphere with the inside of an off-center cylinder. The projection of the sphere in the $xy$-plane is a circle of radius $2$, while the projection of the cylinder is a circle of radius $1$, off-center by $1$. They touch on the boundary, but the smaller circle is entirely contained in the larger one - which means we get a cap with $z>0$ and another with $z<0$.



    So, then, parametrizing. First, rectangular coordinates:

    We have $(x-1)^2+y^2le 1$, and $z=pmsqrt4-x^2-y^2$. That gives us two parametrized regions:
    $$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$
    $$0le xle 2, -sqrt1-(x-1)^2le ylesqrt1-(x-1)^2, z(x,y)=-sqrt4-x^2-y^2$$



    Well, that's a lot of square roots. Definitely not the easiest to work with.



    How about cylindrical coordinates? We've got two circles here, so there are two ways to go. First, cylindrical with respect to the small circle:
    $$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
    $$0le rle 1, 0lethetale 2pi, x = 1+rcostheta, y = rsintheta, z=-sqrt4-(1+rcostheta)^2-r^2sin^2theta$$
    Those $z$ formulas simplify a bit, but there will still be a $costheta$ term in there.



    Next, cylindrical with respect to the large circle:
    $$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=sqrt4-r^2$$
    $$(rcostheta-1)^2+(rsintheta)^2le 1,x=rcostheta,y=rsintheta,z=-sqrt4-r^2$$
    In this option, we've shunted the more complicated parts off into the bounds for $r$ and $theta$. Expanding that inequality out, it becomes
    beginalign*r^2cos^2theta-2rcostheta+1+r^2sin^2theta &le 1\
    r^2 &le 2rcosthetaendalign*

    So then, $-dfracpi2lethetaledfracpi2$ and $0le rle 2costheta$. That looks like the way to go.



    So, now that you have a parametrization, can you set up and solve the area integral?







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      Thank you very much for your thorough answer. Do you have any general advice for parametrizing a set by any chance? I just can't seem to understand or see how to do it... like everything else I am good with but these parametrization is what gives me the most amount of trouble.. Do you have any recommended book where it goes through plenty of these examples that I can from?
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      – javacoder
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    • $begingroup$
      Honestly, I don't have any formal process here. It's a matter of building things up from a library of standard elements - sometimes writing one thing as a function of others, sometimes using angles to handle a circle or disk, sometimes basing parameters on a process used to generate the set. Doing examples is definitely a good way to learn, but I don't know any good sources for them.
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    • $begingroup$
      Thank you very much for your thorough answer. Do you have any general advice for parametrizing a set by any chance? I just can't seem to understand or see how to do it... like everything else I am good with but these parametrization is what gives me the most amount of trouble.. Do you have any recommended book where it goes through plenty of these examples that I can from?
      $endgroup$
      – javacoder
      Mar 15 at 2:52










    • $begingroup$
      Honestly, I don't have any formal process here. It's a matter of building things up from a library of standard elements - sometimes writing one thing as a function of others, sometimes using angles to handle a circle or disk, sometimes basing parameters on a process used to generate the set. Doing examples is definitely a good way to learn, but I don't know any good sources for them.
      $endgroup$
      – jmerry
      Mar 15 at 3:05















    $begingroup$
    Thank you very much for your thorough answer. Do you have any general advice for parametrizing a set by any chance? I just can't seem to understand or see how to do it... like everything else I am good with but these parametrization is what gives me the most amount of trouble.. Do you have any recommended book where it goes through plenty of these examples that I can from?
    $endgroup$
    – javacoder
    Mar 15 at 2:52




    $begingroup$
    Thank you very much for your thorough answer. Do you have any general advice for parametrizing a set by any chance? I just can't seem to understand or see how to do it... like everything else I am good with but these parametrization is what gives me the most amount of trouble.. Do you have any recommended book where it goes through plenty of these examples that I can from?
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    – javacoder
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    Honestly, I don't have any formal process here. It's a matter of building things up from a library of standard elements - sometimes writing one thing as a function of others, sometimes using angles to handle a circle or disk, sometimes basing parameters on a process used to generate the set. Doing examples is definitely a good way to learn, but I don't know any good sources for them.
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    – jmerry
    Mar 15 at 3:05




    $begingroup$
    Honestly, I don't have any formal process here. It's a matter of building things up from a library of standard elements - sometimes writing one thing as a function of others, sometimes using angles to handle a circle or disk, sometimes basing parameters on a process used to generate the set. Doing examples is definitely a good way to learn, but I don't know any good sources for them.
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    – jmerry
    Mar 15 at 3:05











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    Using spherical coordinates could be a better option. Use
    $$x = rcostheta cosphi$$
    $$y = rsintheta cosphi $$
    $$z = rsinphi $$
    Where in this case $r = 2$



    Then the second equation becomes
    $$r^2cos^2phi - 2rcostheta cosphi = 0$$
    $$implies rcosphi = 2costheta $$
    $$implies cosphi = costheta $$
    $$implies phi = theta $$



    The integral for the surface is



    $$2int_0^fracpi2int_0^theta r^2cosphi dphi dtheta $$
    $$= 8int_0^fracpi2sintheta dtheta = 8$$






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      $begingroup$

      Using spherical coordinates could be a better option. Use
      $$x = rcostheta cosphi$$
      $$y = rsintheta cosphi $$
      $$z = rsinphi $$
      Where in this case $r = 2$



      Then the second equation becomes
      $$r^2cos^2phi - 2rcostheta cosphi = 0$$
      $$implies rcosphi = 2costheta $$
      $$implies cosphi = costheta $$
      $$implies phi = theta $$



      The integral for the surface is



      $$2int_0^fracpi2int_0^theta r^2cosphi dphi dtheta $$
      $$= 8int_0^fracpi2sintheta dtheta = 8$$






      share|cite|improve this answer









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        $begingroup$

        Using spherical coordinates could be a better option. Use
        $$x = rcostheta cosphi$$
        $$y = rsintheta cosphi $$
        $$z = rsinphi $$
        Where in this case $r = 2$



        Then the second equation becomes
        $$r^2cos^2phi - 2rcostheta cosphi = 0$$
        $$implies rcosphi = 2costheta $$
        $$implies cosphi = costheta $$
        $$implies phi = theta $$



        The integral for the surface is



        $$2int_0^fracpi2int_0^theta r^2cosphi dphi dtheta $$
        $$= 8int_0^fracpi2sintheta dtheta = 8$$






        share|cite|improve this answer









        $endgroup$



        Using spherical coordinates could be a better option. Use
        $$x = rcostheta cosphi$$
        $$y = rsintheta cosphi $$
        $$z = rsinphi $$
        Where in this case $r = 2$



        Then the second equation becomes
        $$r^2cos^2phi - 2rcostheta cosphi = 0$$
        $$implies rcosphi = 2costheta $$
        $$implies cosphi = costheta $$
        $$implies phi = theta $$



        The integral for the surface is



        $$2int_0^fracpi2int_0^theta r^2cosphi dphi dtheta $$
        $$= 8int_0^fracpi2sintheta dtheta = 8$$







        share|cite|improve this answer












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