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Birthday Problem in Continuous time


Probability question (Birthday problem)Birthday probability problemScaling Cumulative Probability Distribution function valuesBirthday ProblemBirthday Problem variationBirthday problem extension questionInspired by the Birthday ProblemDouble birthday problemBirthday Problem using Complement ProbabilityBirthday problem- Adam and Eve













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I encountered a practical problem and want a help (my Google skill fail T^T). Basically, this is a birthday problem in continuous space, is it hard to solve?



Problem Statement



A computer has N cores and there are M tasks within a day. Each core can only process one job at a time and each take T seconds to complete. And tasks can arrive at anytime (continuous time) with uniform probability.



Q1. Given N,M,T. What is the probability that the event of all cores being occupied (processing a task) happen during a day?



Q2. Given M,T. Find N such that P(not all cores being occupied) > 0.9, 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, 0.99999?



If there are approximation methods, the background information is that T is small e.g. 0.1 second, and M is much larger 10^7.










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    These are results in queueing theory If you search on that you can find lots of information.
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    – Ross Millikan
    Jul 21 '18 at 4:07










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    Tasks cannot "arrive at any time with uniform probability" because there is no way to assign probabilities to the set of all non-negative real numbers with uniform probability. So you need to consider some other probability distribution, such as an Exponential distribution.
    $endgroup$
    – awkward
    Jul 21 '18 at 12:17










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    @awkward I should clarify that I assume all M tasks must arrive within a day, so it is not unbounded.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Tang
    Jul 22 '18 at 2:42










  • $begingroup$
    @RossMillikan Thanks! I borrowed a book from libbrary today. Queueing theory is exactly what I am looking for.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Tang
    Jul 22 '18 at 7:02










  • $begingroup$
    This is a $G/D/1$ queue with a nontrivial interarrival distribution, so I suggest either using standard approximations from queueing theory or creating a simulation to estimate the results.
    $endgroup$
    – Math1000
    Jul 24 '18 at 1:43















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$begingroup$


I encountered a practical problem and want a help (my Google skill fail T^T). Basically, this is a birthday problem in continuous space, is it hard to solve?



Problem Statement



A computer has N cores and there are M tasks within a day. Each core can only process one job at a time and each take T seconds to complete. And tasks can arrive at anytime (continuous time) with uniform probability.



Q1. Given N,M,T. What is the probability that the event of all cores being occupied (processing a task) happen during a day?



Q2. Given M,T. Find N such that P(not all cores being occupied) > 0.9, 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, 0.99999?



If there are approximation methods, the background information is that T is small e.g. 0.1 second, and M is much larger 10^7.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    These are results in queueing theory If you search on that you can find lots of information.
    $endgroup$
    – Ross Millikan
    Jul 21 '18 at 4:07










  • $begingroup$
    Tasks cannot "arrive at any time with uniform probability" because there is no way to assign probabilities to the set of all non-negative real numbers with uniform probability. So you need to consider some other probability distribution, such as an Exponential distribution.
    $endgroup$
    – awkward
    Jul 21 '18 at 12:17










  • $begingroup$
    @awkward I should clarify that I assume all M tasks must arrive within a day, so it is not unbounded.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Tang
    Jul 22 '18 at 2:42










  • $begingroup$
    @RossMillikan Thanks! I borrowed a book from libbrary today. Queueing theory is exactly what I am looking for.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Tang
    Jul 22 '18 at 7:02










  • $begingroup$
    This is a $G/D/1$ queue with a nontrivial interarrival distribution, so I suggest either using standard approximations from queueing theory or creating a simulation to estimate the results.
    $endgroup$
    – Math1000
    Jul 24 '18 at 1:43













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$begingroup$


I encountered a practical problem and want a help (my Google skill fail T^T). Basically, this is a birthday problem in continuous space, is it hard to solve?



Problem Statement



A computer has N cores and there are M tasks within a day. Each core can only process one job at a time and each take T seconds to complete. And tasks can arrive at anytime (continuous time) with uniform probability.



Q1. Given N,M,T. What is the probability that the event of all cores being occupied (processing a task) happen during a day?



Q2. Given M,T. Find N such that P(not all cores being occupied) > 0.9, 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, 0.99999?



If there are approximation methods, the background information is that T is small e.g. 0.1 second, and M is much larger 10^7.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




I encountered a practical problem and want a help (my Google skill fail T^T). Basically, this is a birthday problem in continuous space, is it hard to solve?



Problem Statement



A computer has N cores and there are M tasks within a day. Each core can only process one job at a time and each take T seconds to complete. And tasks can arrive at anytime (continuous time) with uniform probability.



Q1. Given N,M,T. What is the probability that the event of all cores being occupied (processing a task) happen during a day?



Q2. Given M,T. Find N such that P(not all cores being occupied) > 0.9, 0.99, 0.999, 0.9999, 0.99999?



If there are approximation methods, the background information is that T is small e.g. 0.1 second, and M is much larger 10^7.







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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    These are results in queueing theory If you search on that you can find lots of information.
    $endgroup$
    – Ross Millikan
    Jul 21 '18 at 4:07










  • $begingroup$
    Tasks cannot "arrive at any time with uniform probability" because there is no way to assign probabilities to the set of all non-negative real numbers with uniform probability. So you need to consider some other probability distribution, such as an Exponential distribution.
    $endgroup$
    – awkward
    Jul 21 '18 at 12:17










  • $begingroup$
    @awkward I should clarify that I assume all M tasks must arrive within a day, so it is not unbounded.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Tang
    Jul 22 '18 at 2:42










  • $begingroup$
    @RossMillikan Thanks! I borrowed a book from libbrary today. Queueing theory is exactly what I am looking for.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Tang
    Jul 22 '18 at 7:02










  • $begingroup$
    This is a $G/D/1$ queue with a nontrivial interarrival distribution, so I suggest either using standard approximations from queueing theory or creating a simulation to estimate the results.
    $endgroup$
    – Math1000
    Jul 24 '18 at 1:43












  • 2




    $begingroup$
    These are results in queueing theory If you search on that you can find lots of information.
    $endgroup$
    – Ross Millikan
    Jul 21 '18 at 4:07










  • $begingroup$
    Tasks cannot "arrive at any time with uniform probability" because there is no way to assign probabilities to the set of all non-negative real numbers with uniform probability. So you need to consider some other probability distribution, such as an Exponential distribution.
    $endgroup$
    – awkward
    Jul 21 '18 at 12:17










  • $begingroup$
    @awkward I should clarify that I assume all M tasks must arrive within a day, so it is not unbounded.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Tang
    Jul 22 '18 at 2:42










  • $begingroup$
    @RossMillikan Thanks! I borrowed a book from libbrary today. Queueing theory is exactly what I am looking for.
    $endgroup$
    – Jack Tang
    Jul 22 '18 at 7:02










  • $begingroup$
    This is a $G/D/1$ queue with a nontrivial interarrival distribution, so I suggest either using standard approximations from queueing theory or creating a simulation to estimate the results.
    $endgroup$
    – Math1000
    Jul 24 '18 at 1:43







2




2




$begingroup$
These are results in queueing theory If you search on that you can find lots of information.
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jul 21 '18 at 4:07




$begingroup$
These are results in queueing theory If you search on that you can find lots of information.
$endgroup$
– Ross Millikan
Jul 21 '18 at 4:07












$begingroup$
Tasks cannot "arrive at any time with uniform probability" because there is no way to assign probabilities to the set of all non-negative real numbers with uniform probability. So you need to consider some other probability distribution, such as an Exponential distribution.
$endgroup$
– awkward
Jul 21 '18 at 12:17




$begingroup$
Tasks cannot "arrive at any time with uniform probability" because there is no way to assign probabilities to the set of all non-negative real numbers with uniform probability. So you need to consider some other probability distribution, such as an Exponential distribution.
$endgroup$
– awkward
Jul 21 '18 at 12:17












$begingroup$
@awkward I should clarify that I assume all M tasks must arrive within a day, so it is not unbounded.
$endgroup$
– Jack Tang
Jul 22 '18 at 2:42




$begingroup$
@awkward I should clarify that I assume all M tasks must arrive within a day, so it is not unbounded.
$endgroup$
– Jack Tang
Jul 22 '18 at 2:42












$begingroup$
@RossMillikan Thanks! I borrowed a book from libbrary today. Queueing theory is exactly what I am looking for.
$endgroup$
– Jack Tang
Jul 22 '18 at 7:02




$begingroup$
@RossMillikan Thanks! I borrowed a book from libbrary today. Queueing theory is exactly what I am looking for.
$endgroup$
– Jack Tang
Jul 22 '18 at 7:02












$begingroup$
This is a $G/D/1$ queue with a nontrivial interarrival distribution, so I suggest either using standard approximations from queueing theory or creating a simulation to estimate the results.
$endgroup$
– Math1000
Jul 24 '18 at 1:43




$begingroup$
This is a $G/D/1$ queue with a nontrivial interarrival distribution, so I suggest either using standard approximations from queueing theory or creating a simulation to estimate the results.
$endgroup$
– Math1000
Jul 24 '18 at 1:43










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