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Isothermal parameterization, Inverse of the Gauss Map



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Deriving equations for the “Bianchi-Pinkall torus”Question about focal surfaceThe Weierstrass-Enneper representation, the Gauss mapGeneric fibers of the Gauss map are linear spacesJacobian of parametric surface $s(u,v)$ w.r.t. basis in $R^3$.Parameterising the intersection of a plane and paraboloidConfusion about partial derivative of a vector field.Why is the inverse of a parameterization of a regular surface differentiable?Geometric significance of the differential of the Gauss map, $dN_p: T_p(S) rightarrow T_p(S)$, being a self adjoint linear map.Define a parameterization given a vector field on a smooth manifold










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This problem is from Do Carmo's Differential Geometry of Curves and Surfaces. It is question 13 from chapter 3.5, to be specific.



Suppose that S is a minimal surface without any umbilical points (that is to say that $k_1 = -k_2$ everywhere). Let $barx$ be a parameterization of the unit sphere by stereograhic projection, and consider a neighborhood $V$ of a point $p$ on the surface so that the Gauss map $N: S rightarrow S^2$ restricted to the neighborhood $V$ is a diffeomorphism.



The question is to show that the parameterization $q= N^-1$ o $bar x$ is isothermal, meaning that $<q_u, q_u > = <q_v, q_v>$ and $<q_u,q_v> = 0$ everywhere on $S$.



Now when I saw this question, my first instinct was to try to verify that $q$ was isothermal directly by computing the parameterization in some kind of coordinates directly. I know that stereographic projection is given by the formulas:



$$ x= frac 4uu^2+v^2+4$$



$$ y = frac 4vu^2+v^2+4$$



$$ z = frac 2(u^2+v^2)u^2+v^2+4 $$



I figured with this information, maybe I could find a way to write down what $q$ is in terms of $u$ and $v$ and take partials. The problem is that I don't know how to write down anything about $N^-1$. Like when working with $N$, I can say that a point on a surface $S$ goes to it's normal, which is something that I can compute in terms of cross products of partial derivatives of a parameterization of the surface.



Is this method workable? I don't know if I can proceed any further this way. If not, what can I do to approach this problem?










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    This problem is from Do Carmo's Differential Geometry of Curves and Surfaces. It is question 13 from chapter 3.5, to be specific.



    Suppose that S is a minimal surface without any umbilical points (that is to say that $k_1 = -k_2$ everywhere). Let $barx$ be a parameterization of the unit sphere by stereograhic projection, and consider a neighborhood $V$ of a point $p$ on the surface so that the Gauss map $N: S rightarrow S^2$ restricted to the neighborhood $V$ is a diffeomorphism.



    The question is to show that the parameterization $q= N^-1$ o $bar x$ is isothermal, meaning that $<q_u, q_u > = <q_v, q_v>$ and $<q_u,q_v> = 0$ everywhere on $S$.



    Now when I saw this question, my first instinct was to try to verify that $q$ was isothermal directly by computing the parameterization in some kind of coordinates directly. I know that stereographic projection is given by the formulas:



    $$ x= frac 4uu^2+v^2+4$$



    $$ y = frac 4vu^2+v^2+4$$



    $$ z = frac 2(u^2+v^2)u^2+v^2+4 $$



    I figured with this information, maybe I could find a way to write down what $q$ is in terms of $u$ and $v$ and take partials. The problem is that I don't know how to write down anything about $N^-1$. Like when working with $N$, I can say that a point on a surface $S$ goes to it's normal, which is something that I can compute in terms of cross products of partial derivatives of a parameterization of the surface.



    Is this method workable? I don't know if I can proceed any further this way. If not, what can I do to approach this problem?










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      This problem is from Do Carmo's Differential Geometry of Curves and Surfaces. It is question 13 from chapter 3.5, to be specific.



      Suppose that S is a minimal surface without any umbilical points (that is to say that $k_1 = -k_2$ everywhere). Let $barx$ be a parameterization of the unit sphere by stereograhic projection, and consider a neighborhood $V$ of a point $p$ on the surface so that the Gauss map $N: S rightarrow S^2$ restricted to the neighborhood $V$ is a diffeomorphism.



      The question is to show that the parameterization $q= N^-1$ o $bar x$ is isothermal, meaning that $<q_u, q_u > = <q_v, q_v>$ and $<q_u,q_v> = 0$ everywhere on $S$.



      Now when I saw this question, my first instinct was to try to verify that $q$ was isothermal directly by computing the parameterization in some kind of coordinates directly. I know that stereographic projection is given by the formulas:



      $$ x= frac 4uu^2+v^2+4$$



      $$ y = frac 4vu^2+v^2+4$$



      $$ z = frac 2(u^2+v^2)u^2+v^2+4 $$



      I figured with this information, maybe I could find a way to write down what $q$ is in terms of $u$ and $v$ and take partials. The problem is that I don't know how to write down anything about $N^-1$. Like when working with $N$, I can say that a point on a surface $S$ goes to it's normal, which is something that I can compute in terms of cross products of partial derivatives of a parameterization of the surface.



      Is this method workable? I don't know if I can proceed any further this way. If not, what can I do to approach this problem?










      share|cite|improve this question











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      This problem is from Do Carmo's Differential Geometry of Curves and Surfaces. It is question 13 from chapter 3.5, to be specific.



      Suppose that S is a minimal surface without any umbilical points (that is to say that $k_1 = -k_2$ everywhere). Let $barx$ be a parameterization of the unit sphere by stereograhic projection, and consider a neighborhood $V$ of a point $p$ on the surface so that the Gauss map $N: S rightarrow S^2$ restricted to the neighborhood $V$ is a diffeomorphism.



      The question is to show that the parameterization $q= N^-1$ o $bar x$ is isothermal, meaning that $<q_u, q_u > = <q_v, q_v>$ and $<q_u,q_v> = 0$ everywhere on $S$.



      Now when I saw this question, my first instinct was to try to verify that $q$ was isothermal directly by computing the parameterization in some kind of coordinates directly. I know that stereographic projection is given by the formulas:



      $$ x= frac 4uu^2+v^2+4$$



      $$ y = frac 4vu^2+v^2+4$$



      $$ z = frac 2(u^2+v^2)u^2+v^2+4 $$



      I figured with this information, maybe I could find a way to write down what $q$ is in terms of $u$ and $v$ and take partials. The problem is that I don't know how to write down anything about $N^-1$. Like when working with $N$, I can say that a point on a surface $S$ goes to it's normal, which is something that I can compute in terms of cross products of partial derivatives of a parameterization of the surface.



      Is this method workable? I don't know if I can proceed any further this way. If not, what can I do to approach this problem?







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          The formulas of the stereographic projection give $langle barx_u,barx_urangle = langle barx_v,barx_vrangle$ and $langle barx_u,barx_vrangle = 0$, and the first part of this exercise says $langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle = lambda_p langle q_u,q_urangle$, hence $$beginalign*
          langle q_u,q_urangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle \
          &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_urangle\
          &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_urangle \
          &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_v,barx_vrangle \
          &= langle q_v,q_vrangle
          endalign*$$
          Similarly $$beginalign*
          langle q_u,q_vrangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_v)rangle \
          &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_vrangle\
          &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_vrangle \
          &= 0
          endalign*$$






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            Stereographic projection is conformal and you can also show the Gauss map is conformal for a minimal surface.



            This is not very hard; simply assume $langle dN_p(t_1),dN_p(t_2)rangle=lambda(p)langle t_1,t_2rangle forall t_1,t_2 in T_pS$ and then take the basis of $T_pS$ consisting of the principal directions of the gauss map. A quick bit of algebra will show that the principal curvatures satisfy $k_1=-k_2$.



            Hence the parameterisation you mention is a conformal mapping from the plane, hence isothermal.






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              The formulas of the stereographic projection give $langle barx_u,barx_urangle = langle barx_v,barx_vrangle$ and $langle barx_u,barx_vrangle = 0$, and the first part of this exercise says $langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle = lambda_p langle q_u,q_urangle$, hence $$beginalign*
              langle q_u,q_urangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle \
              &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_urangle\
              &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_urangle \
              &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_v,barx_vrangle \
              &= langle q_v,q_vrangle
              endalign*$$
              Similarly $$beginalign*
              langle q_u,q_vrangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_v)rangle \
              &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_vrangle\
              &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_vrangle \
              &= 0
              endalign*$$






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                The formulas of the stereographic projection give $langle barx_u,barx_urangle = langle barx_v,barx_vrangle$ and $langle barx_u,barx_vrangle = 0$, and the first part of this exercise says $langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle = lambda_p langle q_u,q_urangle$, hence $$beginalign*
                langle q_u,q_urangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle \
                &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_urangle\
                &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_urangle \
                &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_v,barx_vrangle \
                &= langle q_v,q_vrangle
                endalign*$$
                Similarly $$beginalign*
                langle q_u,q_vrangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_v)rangle \
                &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_vrangle\
                &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_vrangle \
                &= 0
                endalign*$$






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                  The formulas of the stereographic projection give $langle barx_u,barx_urangle = langle barx_v,barx_vrangle$ and $langle barx_u,barx_vrangle = 0$, and the first part of this exercise says $langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle = lambda_p langle q_u,q_urangle$, hence $$beginalign*
                  langle q_u,q_urangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle \
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_urangle\
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_urangle \
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_v,barx_vrangle \
                  &= langle q_v,q_vrangle
                  endalign*$$
                  Similarly $$beginalign*
                  langle q_u,q_vrangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_v)rangle \
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_vrangle\
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_vrangle \
                  &= 0
                  endalign*$$






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                  The formulas of the stereographic projection give $langle barx_u,barx_urangle = langle barx_v,barx_vrangle$ and $langle barx_u,barx_vrangle = 0$, and the first part of this exercise says $langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle = lambda_p langle q_u,q_urangle$, hence $$beginalign*
                  langle q_u,q_urangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_u)rangle \
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_urangle\
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_urangle \
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_v,barx_vrangle \
                  &= langle q_v,q_vrangle
                  endalign*$$
                  Similarly $$beginalign*
                  langle q_u,q_vrangle &= lambda_p^-1langle mathrmdN(q_u),mathrmdN(q_v)rangle \
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle (Ncirc q)_u,(Ncirc q)_vrangle\
                  &= lambda_p^-1 langle barx_u,barx_vrangle \
                  &= 0
                  endalign*$$







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                      Stereographic projection is conformal and you can also show the Gauss map is conformal for a minimal surface.



                      This is not very hard; simply assume $langle dN_p(t_1),dN_p(t_2)rangle=lambda(p)langle t_1,t_2rangle forall t_1,t_2 in T_pS$ and then take the basis of $T_pS$ consisting of the principal directions of the gauss map. A quick bit of algebra will show that the principal curvatures satisfy $k_1=-k_2$.



                      Hence the parameterisation you mention is a conformal mapping from the plane, hence isothermal.






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                        Stereographic projection is conformal and you can also show the Gauss map is conformal for a minimal surface.



                        This is not very hard; simply assume $langle dN_p(t_1),dN_p(t_2)rangle=lambda(p)langle t_1,t_2rangle forall t_1,t_2 in T_pS$ and then take the basis of $T_pS$ consisting of the principal directions of the gauss map. A quick bit of algebra will show that the principal curvatures satisfy $k_1=-k_2$.



                        Hence the parameterisation you mention is a conformal mapping from the plane, hence isothermal.






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                          Stereographic projection is conformal and you can also show the Gauss map is conformal for a minimal surface.



                          This is not very hard; simply assume $langle dN_p(t_1),dN_p(t_2)rangle=lambda(p)langle t_1,t_2rangle forall t_1,t_2 in T_pS$ and then take the basis of $T_pS$ consisting of the principal directions of the gauss map. A quick bit of algebra will show that the principal curvatures satisfy $k_1=-k_2$.



                          Hence the parameterisation you mention is a conformal mapping from the plane, hence isothermal.






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                          Stereographic projection is conformal and you can also show the Gauss map is conformal for a minimal surface.



                          This is not very hard; simply assume $langle dN_p(t_1),dN_p(t_2)rangle=lambda(p)langle t_1,t_2rangle forall t_1,t_2 in T_pS$ and then take the basis of $T_pS$ consisting of the principal directions of the gauss map. A quick bit of algebra will show that the principal curvatures satisfy $k_1=-k_2$.



                          Hence the parameterisation you mention is a conformal mapping from the plane, hence isothermal.







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