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Let $M$ be a differentiable manifold with cotangent bundle $T^*M$.



How can I prove that $T_(p,0)T^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $T_pMoplus T_pM^*$?



If this true, then I think I could prove that the Hessian of $fcolon Mto mathbbR$ is well-defined (I mean, without choice of Connection or Riemannian metric) at critical point of $f$.



This is not any homework.










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    Hint: look at the kernel of the derivative of the bundle projection. This gives you the desired decomposition.
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    Your comment about the Hessian is also correct. This allows you to say, for instance, that a function is Morse independently of the choice of connection.
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Let $M$ be a differentiable manifold with cotangent bundle $T^*M$.



How can I prove that $T_(p,0)T^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $T_pMoplus T_pM^*$?



If this true, then I think I could prove that the Hessian of $fcolon Mto mathbbR$ is well-defined (I mean, without choice of Connection or Riemannian metric) at critical point of $f$.



This is not any homework.










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    Hint: look at the kernel of the derivative of the bundle projection. This gives you the desired decomposition.
    $endgroup$
    – t.b.
    Jul 25 '11 at 10:49











  • $begingroup$
    Your comment about the Hessian is also correct. This allows you to say, for instance, that a function is Morse independently of the choice of connection.
    $endgroup$
    – Sam Lisi
    Dec 22 '11 at 13:00













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Let $M$ be a differentiable manifold with cotangent bundle $T^*M$.



How can I prove that $T_(p,0)T^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $T_pMoplus T_pM^*$?



If this true, then I think I could prove that the Hessian of $fcolon Mto mathbbR$ is well-defined (I mean, without choice of Connection or Riemannian metric) at critical point of $f$.



This is not any homework.










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Let $M$ be a differentiable manifold with cotangent bundle $T^*M$.



How can I prove that $T_(p,0)T^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $T_pMoplus T_pM^*$?



If this true, then I think I could prove that the Hessian of $fcolon Mto mathbbR$ is well-defined (I mean, without choice of Connection or Riemannian metric) at critical point of $f$.



This is not any homework.







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  • $begingroup$
    Hint: look at the kernel of the derivative of the bundle projection. This gives you the desired decomposition.
    $endgroup$
    – t.b.
    Jul 25 '11 at 10:49











  • $begingroup$
    Your comment about the Hessian is also correct. This allows you to say, for instance, that a function is Morse independently of the choice of connection.
    $endgroup$
    – Sam Lisi
    Dec 22 '11 at 13:00
















  • $begingroup$
    Hint: look at the kernel of the derivative of the bundle projection. This gives you the desired decomposition.
    $endgroup$
    – t.b.
    Jul 25 '11 at 10:49











  • $begingroup$
    Your comment about the Hessian is also correct. This allows you to say, for instance, that a function is Morse independently of the choice of connection.
    $endgroup$
    – Sam Lisi
    Dec 22 '11 at 13:00















$begingroup$
Hint: look at the kernel of the derivative of the bundle projection. This gives you the desired decomposition.
$endgroup$
– t.b.
Jul 25 '11 at 10:49





$begingroup$
Hint: look at the kernel of the derivative of the bundle projection. This gives you the desired decomposition.
$endgroup$
– t.b.
Jul 25 '11 at 10:49













$begingroup$
Your comment about the Hessian is also correct. This allows you to say, for instance, that a function is Morse independently of the choice of connection.
$endgroup$
– Sam Lisi
Dec 22 '11 at 13:00




$begingroup$
Your comment about the Hessian is also correct. This allows you to say, for instance, that a function is Morse independently of the choice of connection.
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Things are much nicer i.e. more general and canonical than that!



a) Let $pi:Nto M$ be a submersion of manifolds. From it you obtain the exact sequence of vector bundles on $N$: $$ 0to T^vert(N) to T(N) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (*) $$ Profound, eh? Not at all!

This is just a fancy way of looking at the differential of the map $pi: Nto M.$

In order that both the tangent bundles to $N$ and to $M$ live on $N$, you have to pull back $T(M)$ to $N$: that is why we have $pi^-1 T(M)$ on the right.

The kernel is the set of vertical tangent vectors to $N$, those that lie along the level lines $N[n]stackrel def=pi^-1(pi (n))$ of $pi$.

In other words at a point $nin N$ the fibre of $T^vert(N)$ is $$T^vert_n(N)=T_n(N[n]) quad (**)$$



b) Consider now a vector bundle $pi:Vto M$ on $M$.

You then have the canonical exact sequence of vector bundles on $V;$ (yes, vector bundles on a vector bundle!) :



$$ 0to T^vert(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (***)$$



In this new set-up you have the interesting identification $ T^vert(V)=pi^-1(V)$.

This boils down to the fact that the tangent space at any point $ein E$ of a vector space $E$ is that vector space itself: $T_e(E)=E.$

Hence $(***)$ becomes $$ 0to pi^-1(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (****) $$



c) Finally, if you restrict this last exact sequence (****) to the zero section of $V$, identified to $M$, you get



$$ 0to V to T(V)|M stackrel dpito T(M) to 0 quad quad (*****) $$



d) Although this is not very helpful, you can if the manifold $M$ is paracompact (see here) non-canonically split the exact sequence (*****) and obtain the isomorphism $$ T(V)|M cong V oplus T(M)$$
At a point $(m,0)in Msubset V$ this gives the decomposition $$ T_(m,0)(V) cong V_m oplus T_m(M)$$
and for $V=T^*(M)$ this is what you were looking for.






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    dear Georges, we are ok that more generally $TT^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $pi^-1TMoplus pi^-1T^*M$ where $pi:T^*Mto M$ ?
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    – epsilones
    Mar 26 at 22:13







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    Dear @epsilones: your comment is absolutely correct . I have edited my answer in order to address your question in a completely general context.
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Things are much nicer i.e. more general and canonical than that!



a) Let $pi:Nto M$ be a submersion of manifolds. From it you obtain the exact sequence of vector bundles on $N$: $$ 0to T^vert(N) to T(N) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (*) $$ Profound, eh? Not at all!

This is just a fancy way of looking at the differential of the map $pi: Nto M.$

In order that both the tangent bundles to $N$ and to $M$ live on $N$, you have to pull back $T(M)$ to $N$: that is why we have $pi^-1 T(M)$ on the right.

The kernel is the set of vertical tangent vectors to $N$, those that lie along the level lines $N[n]stackrel def=pi^-1(pi (n))$ of $pi$.

In other words at a point $nin N$ the fibre of $T^vert(N)$ is $$T^vert_n(N)=T_n(N[n]) quad (**)$$



b) Consider now a vector bundle $pi:Vto M$ on $M$.

You then have the canonical exact sequence of vector bundles on $V;$ (yes, vector bundles on a vector bundle!) :



$$ 0to T^vert(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (***)$$



In this new set-up you have the interesting identification $ T^vert(V)=pi^-1(V)$.

This boils down to the fact that the tangent space at any point $ein E$ of a vector space $E$ is that vector space itself: $T_e(E)=E.$

Hence $(***)$ becomes $$ 0to pi^-1(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (****) $$



c) Finally, if you restrict this last exact sequence (****) to the zero section of $V$, identified to $M$, you get



$$ 0to V to T(V)|M stackrel dpito T(M) to 0 quad quad (*****) $$



d) Although this is not very helpful, you can if the manifold $M$ is paracompact (see here) non-canonically split the exact sequence (*****) and obtain the isomorphism $$ T(V)|M cong V oplus T(M)$$
At a point $(m,0)in Msubset V$ this gives the decomposition $$ T_(m,0)(V) cong V_m oplus T_m(M)$$
and for $V=T^*(M)$ this is what you were looking for.






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  • $begingroup$
    dear Georges, we are ok that more generally $TT^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $pi^-1TMoplus pi^-1T^*M$ where $pi:T^*Mto M$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – epsilones
    Mar 26 at 22:13







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Dear @epsilones: your comment is absolutely correct . I have edited my answer in order to address your question in a completely general context.
    $endgroup$
    – Georges Elencwajg
    Mar 27 at 7:56















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$begingroup$

Things are much nicer i.e. more general and canonical than that!



a) Let $pi:Nto M$ be a submersion of manifolds. From it you obtain the exact sequence of vector bundles on $N$: $$ 0to T^vert(N) to T(N) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (*) $$ Profound, eh? Not at all!

This is just a fancy way of looking at the differential of the map $pi: Nto M.$

In order that both the tangent bundles to $N$ and to $M$ live on $N$, you have to pull back $T(M)$ to $N$: that is why we have $pi^-1 T(M)$ on the right.

The kernel is the set of vertical tangent vectors to $N$, those that lie along the level lines $N[n]stackrel def=pi^-1(pi (n))$ of $pi$.

In other words at a point $nin N$ the fibre of $T^vert(N)$ is $$T^vert_n(N)=T_n(N[n]) quad (**)$$



b) Consider now a vector bundle $pi:Vto M$ on $M$.

You then have the canonical exact sequence of vector bundles on $V;$ (yes, vector bundles on a vector bundle!) :



$$ 0to T^vert(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (***)$$



In this new set-up you have the interesting identification $ T^vert(V)=pi^-1(V)$.

This boils down to the fact that the tangent space at any point $ein E$ of a vector space $E$ is that vector space itself: $T_e(E)=E.$

Hence $(***)$ becomes $$ 0to pi^-1(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (****) $$



c) Finally, if you restrict this last exact sequence (****) to the zero section of $V$, identified to $M$, you get



$$ 0to V to T(V)|M stackrel dpito T(M) to 0 quad quad (*****) $$



d) Although this is not very helpful, you can if the manifold $M$ is paracompact (see here) non-canonically split the exact sequence (*****) and obtain the isomorphism $$ T(V)|M cong V oplus T(M)$$
At a point $(m,0)in Msubset V$ this gives the decomposition $$ T_(m,0)(V) cong V_m oplus T_m(M)$$
and for $V=T^*(M)$ this is what you were looking for.






share|cite|improve this answer











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  • $begingroup$
    dear Georges, we are ok that more generally $TT^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $pi^-1TMoplus pi^-1T^*M$ where $pi:T^*Mto M$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – epsilones
    Mar 26 at 22:13







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Dear @epsilones: your comment is absolutely correct . I have edited my answer in order to address your question in a completely general context.
    $endgroup$
    – Georges Elencwajg
    Mar 27 at 7:56













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$begingroup$

Things are much nicer i.e. more general and canonical than that!



a) Let $pi:Nto M$ be a submersion of manifolds. From it you obtain the exact sequence of vector bundles on $N$: $$ 0to T^vert(N) to T(N) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (*) $$ Profound, eh? Not at all!

This is just a fancy way of looking at the differential of the map $pi: Nto M.$

In order that both the tangent bundles to $N$ and to $M$ live on $N$, you have to pull back $T(M)$ to $N$: that is why we have $pi^-1 T(M)$ on the right.

The kernel is the set of vertical tangent vectors to $N$, those that lie along the level lines $N[n]stackrel def=pi^-1(pi (n))$ of $pi$.

In other words at a point $nin N$ the fibre of $T^vert(N)$ is $$T^vert_n(N)=T_n(N[n]) quad (**)$$



b) Consider now a vector bundle $pi:Vto M$ on $M$.

You then have the canonical exact sequence of vector bundles on $V;$ (yes, vector bundles on a vector bundle!) :



$$ 0to T^vert(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (***)$$



In this new set-up you have the interesting identification $ T^vert(V)=pi^-1(V)$.

This boils down to the fact that the tangent space at any point $ein E$ of a vector space $E$ is that vector space itself: $T_e(E)=E.$

Hence $(***)$ becomes $$ 0to pi^-1(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (****) $$



c) Finally, if you restrict this last exact sequence (****) to the zero section of $V$, identified to $M$, you get



$$ 0to V to T(V)|M stackrel dpito T(M) to 0 quad quad (*****) $$



d) Although this is not very helpful, you can if the manifold $M$ is paracompact (see here) non-canonically split the exact sequence (*****) and obtain the isomorphism $$ T(V)|M cong V oplus T(M)$$
At a point $(m,0)in Msubset V$ this gives the decomposition $$ T_(m,0)(V) cong V_m oplus T_m(M)$$
and for $V=T^*(M)$ this is what you were looking for.






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



Things are much nicer i.e. more general and canonical than that!



a) Let $pi:Nto M$ be a submersion of manifolds. From it you obtain the exact sequence of vector bundles on $N$: $$ 0to T^vert(N) to T(N) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (*) $$ Profound, eh? Not at all!

This is just a fancy way of looking at the differential of the map $pi: Nto M.$

In order that both the tangent bundles to $N$ and to $M$ live on $N$, you have to pull back $T(M)$ to $N$: that is why we have $pi^-1 T(M)$ on the right.

The kernel is the set of vertical tangent vectors to $N$, those that lie along the level lines $N[n]stackrel def=pi^-1(pi (n))$ of $pi$.

In other words at a point $nin N$ the fibre of $T^vert(N)$ is $$T^vert_n(N)=T_n(N[n]) quad (**)$$



b) Consider now a vector bundle $pi:Vto M$ on $M$.

You then have the canonical exact sequence of vector bundles on $V;$ (yes, vector bundles on a vector bundle!) :



$$ 0to T^vert(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (***)$$



In this new set-up you have the interesting identification $ T^vert(V)=pi^-1(V)$.

This boils down to the fact that the tangent space at any point $ein E$ of a vector space $E$ is that vector space itself: $T_e(E)=E.$

Hence $(***)$ becomes $$ 0to pi^-1(V) to T(V) stackrel dpito pi^-1T(M) to 0 quad (****) $$



c) Finally, if you restrict this last exact sequence (****) to the zero section of $V$, identified to $M$, you get



$$ 0to V to T(V)|M stackrel dpito T(M) to 0 quad quad (*****) $$



d) Although this is not very helpful, you can if the manifold $M$ is paracompact (see here) non-canonically split the exact sequence (*****) and obtain the isomorphism $$ T(V)|M cong V oplus T(M)$$
At a point $(m,0)in Msubset V$ this gives the decomposition $$ T_(m,0)(V) cong V_m oplus T_m(M)$$
and for $V=T^*(M)$ this is what you were looking for.







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    dear Georges, we are ok that more generally $TT^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $pi^-1TMoplus pi^-1T^*M$ where $pi:T^*Mto M$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – epsilones
    Mar 26 at 22:13







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Dear @epsilones: your comment is absolutely correct . I have edited my answer in order to address your question in a completely general context.
    $endgroup$
    – Georges Elencwajg
    Mar 27 at 7:56
















  • $begingroup$
    dear Georges, we are ok that more generally $TT^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $pi^-1TMoplus pi^-1T^*M$ where $pi:T^*Mto M$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – epsilones
    Mar 26 at 22:13







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Dear @epsilones: your comment is absolutely correct . I have edited my answer in order to address your question in a completely general context.
    $endgroup$
    – Georges Elencwajg
    Mar 27 at 7:56















$begingroup$
dear Georges, we are ok that more generally $TT^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $pi^-1TMoplus pi^-1T^*M$ where $pi:T^*Mto M$ ?
$endgroup$
– epsilones
Mar 26 at 22:13





$begingroup$
dear Georges, we are ok that more generally $TT^*M$ is naturally isomorphic to $pi^-1TMoplus pi^-1T^*M$ where $pi:T^*Mto M$ ?
$endgroup$
– epsilones
Mar 26 at 22:13





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Dear @epsilones: your comment is absolutely correct . I have edited my answer in order to address your question in a completely general context.
$endgroup$
– Georges Elencwajg
Mar 27 at 7:56




$begingroup$
Dear @epsilones: your comment is absolutely correct . I have edited my answer in order to address your question in a completely general context.
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