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Estimating sum with binomial coefficients



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Sum involving integer compositions and binomial coefficientsIdentity for central binomial coefficientsEvaluating a sum with binomial coefficients: $sum_k=1^n n choose k frac1k^r a^k b^n-k$Strehl identity for the sum of cubes of binomial coefficientsSum of Binomials times LogarithmsFind the closed expression for binomial sumFinite sum with three binomial coefficientsSum of Lacunary Series of Binomial Coefficients with Rising Upper ParameterAnother summation identity with binomial coefficientsIs there a closed form for the sum of the cubes of the binomial coefficients?










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Lately when I was estimating complexity of some algorithm I came across this sum:



$$sum_k=0^n binom nk binom n-kk$$



Is it possible to find a closed-form expression for this sum, or at least estimate this with some more known functions? I know that it is somewhere between $2^n$ and $3^n$ but I wonder if maybe some better estimation is possible.










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    @bof: aah, you're right. Apologies. But what is $C^1_n-1$ supposed to mean (second term when $k=n-1$) ?
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    @AlexH. I guess it's zero. $binom xk=x(x-1)(x-2)cdots(x-k+1)/k!$ is zero for $x=0,1,2,dots,k-1$.
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    I suppose what the OP wants is the total number of ways to pick 2k objects from n objects by first picking k objects from n and then picking k objects from the remaining.
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    – Gautam Shenoy
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    Looks like you got a couple of pretty good answers to your question. What don't you like about them?
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Lately when I was estimating complexity of some algorithm I came across this sum:



$$sum_k=0^n binom nk binom n-kk$$



Is it possible to find a closed-form expression for this sum, or at least estimate this with some more known functions? I know that it is somewhere between $2^n$ and $3^n$ but I wonder if maybe some better estimation is possible.










share|cite|improve this question









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  • $begingroup$
    @bof: aah, you're right. Apologies. But what is $C^1_n-1$ supposed to mean (second term when $k=n-1$) ?
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Halm
    Oct 1 '14 at 7:55











  • $begingroup$
    @AlexH. I guess it's zero. $binom xk=x(x-1)(x-2)cdots(x-k+1)/k!$ is zero for $x=0,1,2,dots,k-1$.
    $endgroup$
    – bof
    Oct 1 '14 at 8:03











  • $begingroup$
    I suppose what the OP wants is the total number of ways to pick 2k objects from n objects by first picking k objects from n and then picking k objects from the remaining.
    $endgroup$
    – Gautam Shenoy
    Oct 1 '14 at 8:05










  • $begingroup$
    Looks like you got a couple of pretty good answers to your question. What don't you like about them?
    $endgroup$
    – bof
    Oct 7 '14 at 2:57













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Lately when I was estimating complexity of some algorithm I came across this sum:



$$sum_k=0^n binom nk binom n-kk$$



Is it possible to find a closed-form expression for this sum, or at least estimate this with some more known functions? I know that it is somewhere between $2^n$ and $3^n$ but I wonder if maybe some better estimation is possible.










share|cite|improve this question









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Lately when I was estimating complexity of some algorithm I came across this sum:



$$sum_k=0^n binom nk binom n-kk$$



Is it possible to find a closed-form expression for this sum, or at least estimate this with some more known functions? I know that it is somewhere between $2^n$ and $3^n$ but I wonder if maybe some better estimation is possible.







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  • $begingroup$
    @bof: aah, you're right. Apologies. But what is $C^1_n-1$ supposed to mean (second term when $k=n-1$) ?
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Halm
    Oct 1 '14 at 7:55











  • $begingroup$
    @AlexH. I guess it's zero. $binom xk=x(x-1)(x-2)cdots(x-k+1)/k!$ is zero for $x=0,1,2,dots,k-1$.
    $endgroup$
    – bof
    Oct 1 '14 at 8:03











  • $begingroup$
    I suppose what the OP wants is the total number of ways to pick 2k objects from n objects by first picking k objects from n and then picking k objects from the remaining.
    $endgroup$
    – Gautam Shenoy
    Oct 1 '14 at 8:05










  • $begingroup$
    Looks like you got a couple of pretty good answers to your question. What don't you like about them?
    $endgroup$
    – bof
    Oct 7 '14 at 2:57
















  • $begingroup$
    @bof: aah, you're right. Apologies. But what is $C^1_n-1$ supposed to mean (second term when $k=n-1$) ?
    $endgroup$
    – Alexandre Halm
    Oct 1 '14 at 7:55











  • $begingroup$
    @AlexH. I guess it's zero. $binom xk=x(x-1)(x-2)cdots(x-k+1)/k!$ is zero for $x=0,1,2,dots,k-1$.
    $endgroup$
    – bof
    Oct 1 '14 at 8:03











  • $begingroup$
    I suppose what the OP wants is the total number of ways to pick 2k objects from n objects by first picking k objects from n and then picking k objects from the remaining.
    $endgroup$
    – Gautam Shenoy
    Oct 1 '14 at 8:05










  • $begingroup$
    Looks like you got a couple of pretty good answers to your question. What don't you like about them?
    $endgroup$
    – bof
    Oct 7 '14 at 2:57















$begingroup$
@bof: aah, you're right. Apologies. But what is $C^1_n-1$ supposed to mean (second term when $k=n-1$) ?
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Halm
Oct 1 '14 at 7:55





$begingroup$
@bof: aah, you're right. Apologies. But what is $C^1_n-1$ supposed to mean (second term when $k=n-1$) ?
$endgroup$
– Alexandre Halm
Oct 1 '14 at 7:55













$begingroup$
@AlexH. I guess it's zero. $binom xk=x(x-1)(x-2)cdots(x-k+1)/k!$ is zero for $x=0,1,2,dots,k-1$.
$endgroup$
– bof
Oct 1 '14 at 8:03





$begingroup$
@AlexH. I guess it's zero. $binom xk=x(x-1)(x-2)cdots(x-k+1)/k!$ is zero for $x=0,1,2,dots,k-1$.
$endgroup$
– bof
Oct 1 '14 at 8:03













$begingroup$
I suppose what the OP wants is the total number of ways to pick 2k objects from n objects by first picking k objects from n and then picking k objects from the remaining.
$endgroup$
– Gautam Shenoy
Oct 1 '14 at 8:05




$begingroup$
I suppose what the OP wants is the total number of ways to pick 2k objects from n objects by first picking k objects from n and then picking k objects from the remaining.
$endgroup$
– Gautam Shenoy
Oct 1 '14 at 8:05












$begingroup$
Looks like you got a couple of pretty good answers to your question. What don't you like about them?
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– bof
Oct 7 '14 at 2:57




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Looks like you got a couple of pretty good answers to your question. What don't you like about them?
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– bof
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I calculated the sums for $nle6$ and plugged the sequence of values into The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS) It turns out to be sequence A002426, titled "Central trinomial coefficients: largest coefficient of (1+x+x^2)^n". Many interpretations, formulas, and references at the link.






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    A closed form is given by W/A as
    $$
    sum_k=0^n binom nk!! binom n-kk=_2F_1 left(-fracn-12 ,-fracn2 ;1;4 right)
    $$
    Maybe this can help for some estimation.






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      For every positive integer $n$,
      $$sum_k=0^n binom nk binom n-kk = biggllfloorBigl(1+3^n+frac13^nBigl)^n biggrrfloor - 3^n biggllfloorBigl(frac13+3^n-1+frac13^n+1Bigl)^n biggrrfloor$$






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        I calculated the sums for $nle6$ and plugged the sequence of values into The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS) It turns out to be sequence A002426, titled "Central trinomial coefficients: largest coefficient of (1+x+x^2)^n". Many interpretations, formulas, and references at the link.






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          I calculated the sums for $nle6$ and plugged the sequence of values into The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS) It turns out to be sequence A002426, titled "Central trinomial coefficients: largest coefficient of (1+x+x^2)^n". Many interpretations, formulas, and references at the link.






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            I calculated the sums for $nle6$ and plugged the sequence of values into The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS) It turns out to be sequence A002426, titled "Central trinomial coefficients: largest coefficient of (1+x+x^2)^n". Many interpretations, formulas, and references at the link.






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            I calculated the sums for $nle6$ and plugged the sequence of values into The On-Line Encyclopedia of Integer Sequences (OEIS) It turns out to be sequence A002426, titled "Central trinomial coefficients: largest coefficient of (1+x+x^2)^n". Many interpretations, formulas, and references at the link.







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                A closed form is given by W/A as
                $$
                sum_k=0^n binom nk!! binom n-kk=_2F_1 left(-fracn-12 ,-fracn2 ;1;4 right)
                $$
                Maybe this can help for some estimation.






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                  A closed form is given by W/A as
                  $$
                  sum_k=0^n binom nk!! binom n-kk=_2F_1 left(-fracn-12 ,-fracn2 ;1;4 right)
                  $$
                  Maybe this can help for some estimation.






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                    A closed form is given by W/A as
                    $$
                    sum_k=0^n binom nk!! binom n-kk=_2F_1 left(-fracn-12 ,-fracn2 ;1;4 right)
                    $$
                    Maybe this can help for some estimation.






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                    A closed form is given by W/A as
                    $$
                    sum_k=0^n binom nk!! binom n-kk=_2F_1 left(-fracn-12 ,-fracn2 ;1;4 right)
                    $$
                    Maybe this can help for some estimation.







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                        For every positive integer $n$,
                        $$sum_k=0^n binom nk binom n-kk = biggllfloorBigl(1+3^n+frac13^nBigl)^n biggrrfloor - 3^n biggllfloorBigl(frac13+3^n-1+frac13^n+1Bigl)^n biggrrfloor$$






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