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Define a new addition and multiplication and check the equality



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Proving Crazy Vector Space with addition and multiplicationMultiplication and Addition tables the following:Closed under vector addition and scalar multiplicationDo addition and multiplication define a structure of a field?Check if the equality holdsLess suggestive terms for “vector addition” and “scalar multiplication”A counterexample that shows addition and scalar multiplication is not enough for a vector space?Vector space with new scalar multiplication defined over finite field still vector space?non-zero Vector space with new scalar multiplication defined over finite field still vector space?how to check for closed addition and closed multiplication










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Consider the set $V$ = $(x,y): x,y in mathbbR$.



Define a new addition and multiplication on $V$ by $(x,y) + (a,b) = (x+a-2,y+b)$ and $k(x,y) = (kx-2k-2x+6,ky)$.



Check whether the following equality holds for all $u,v in V$ and all $k in mathbbR$:
$$k(u+v)=ku+kv$$










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    What is your question ?
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    Well that's what I was trying to understand. I dont know what this question is really asking. But I think I am supposed to check the equality using the new addition and multiplication definitions provided.
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    @KJay: You're right, you need to check whether this equality is true or not. Was that your question or do you not know how to proceed?
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    Yes, I don't know where to start with this @Diglett
    $endgroup$
    – K Jay
    Mar 27 at 8:42















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$begingroup$


Consider the set $V$ = $(x,y): x,y in mathbbR$.



Define a new addition and multiplication on $V$ by $(x,y) + (a,b) = (x+a-2,y+b)$ and $k(x,y) = (kx-2k-2x+6,ky)$.



Check whether the following equality holds for all $u,v in V$ and all $k in mathbbR$:
$$k(u+v)=ku+kv$$










share|cite|improve this question









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  • $begingroup$
    What is your question ?
    $endgroup$
    – Fred
    Mar 27 at 6:20










  • $begingroup$
    Well that's what I was trying to understand. I dont know what this question is really asking. But I think I am supposed to check the equality using the new addition and multiplication definitions provided.
    $endgroup$
    – K Jay
    Mar 27 at 8:22










  • $begingroup$
    @KJay: You're right, you need to check whether this equality is true or not. Was that your question or do you not know how to proceed?
    $endgroup$
    – Diglett
    Mar 27 at 8:35










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, I don't know where to start with this @Diglett
    $endgroup$
    – K Jay
    Mar 27 at 8:42













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$begingroup$


Consider the set $V$ = $(x,y): x,y in mathbbR$.



Define a new addition and multiplication on $V$ by $(x,y) + (a,b) = (x+a-2,y+b)$ and $k(x,y) = (kx-2k-2x+6,ky)$.



Check whether the following equality holds for all $u,v in V$ and all $k in mathbbR$:
$$k(u+v)=ku+kv$$










share|cite|improve this question









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Consider the set $V$ = $(x,y): x,y in mathbbR$.



Define a new addition and multiplication on $V$ by $(x,y) + (a,b) = (x+a-2,y+b)$ and $k(x,y) = (kx-2k-2x+6,ky)$.



Check whether the following equality holds for all $u,v in V$ and all $k in mathbbR$:
$$k(u+v)=ku+kv$$







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  • $begingroup$
    What is your question ?
    $endgroup$
    – Fred
    Mar 27 at 6:20










  • $begingroup$
    Well that's what I was trying to understand. I dont know what this question is really asking. But I think I am supposed to check the equality using the new addition and multiplication definitions provided.
    $endgroup$
    – K Jay
    Mar 27 at 8:22










  • $begingroup$
    @KJay: You're right, you need to check whether this equality is true or not. Was that your question or do you not know how to proceed?
    $endgroup$
    – Diglett
    Mar 27 at 8:35










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, I don't know where to start with this @Diglett
    $endgroup$
    – K Jay
    Mar 27 at 8:42
















  • $begingroup$
    What is your question ?
    $endgroup$
    – Fred
    Mar 27 at 6:20










  • $begingroup$
    Well that's what I was trying to understand. I dont know what this question is really asking. But I think I am supposed to check the equality using the new addition and multiplication definitions provided.
    $endgroup$
    – K Jay
    Mar 27 at 8:22










  • $begingroup$
    @KJay: You're right, you need to check whether this equality is true or not. Was that your question or do you not know how to proceed?
    $endgroup$
    – Diglett
    Mar 27 at 8:35










  • $begingroup$
    Yes, I don't know where to start with this @Diglett
    $endgroup$
    – K Jay
    Mar 27 at 8:42















$begingroup$
What is your question ?
$endgroup$
– Fred
Mar 27 at 6:20




$begingroup$
What is your question ?
$endgroup$
– Fred
Mar 27 at 6:20












$begingroup$
Well that's what I was trying to understand. I dont know what this question is really asking. But I think I am supposed to check the equality using the new addition and multiplication definitions provided.
$endgroup$
– K Jay
Mar 27 at 8:22




$begingroup$
Well that's what I was trying to understand. I dont know what this question is really asking. But I think I am supposed to check the equality using the new addition and multiplication definitions provided.
$endgroup$
– K Jay
Mar 27 at 8:22












$begingroup$
@KJay: You're right, you need to check whether this equality is true or not. Was that your question or do you not know how to proceed?
$endgroup$
– Diglett
Mar 27 at 8:35




$begingroup$
@KJay: You're right, you need to check whether this equality is true or not. Was that your question or do you not know how to proceed?
$endgroup$
– Diglett
Mar 27 at 8:35












$begingroup$
Yes, I don't know where to start with this @Diglett
$endgroup$
– K Jay
Mar 27 at 8:42




$begingroup$
Yes, I don't know where to start with this @Diglett
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– K Jay
Mar 27 at 8:42










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We would like to check if the equation
$$
k(u+v) = ku + kv
$$

is true for all $u,v in V$ and all $k in mathbbR$.



Let me give you a blueprint for the solution of this problem:



Let $k$ be an arbitrary real number and $u,v$ be arbitrary elements in $V$.



  1. Since $u,v in V$, there are real numbers $a,b,x,y in mathbbR$ such that
    $$
    u = (x,y) quad textand quad v =(a,b).
    $$


  2. Compute $u+v$ by using your newly defined addition.

  3. Compute $k(u+v)$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

  4. Compute $ku$ and $kv$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

  5. Compute $ku + kv$ by using your newly defined addition.

  6. Compare your results from 3. and 5. by comparing the entries of the vectors. This shows whether your equality is true or not.

    • If the equality seems to be not true, try to find explicit $a,b,x,y$, so that the equality does not hold.


If you need further help, then you can let me know and I try to give you more hints.






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    $begingroup$

    We would like to check if the equation
    $$
    k(u+v) = ku + kv
    $$

    is true for all $u,v in V$ and all $k in mathbbR$.



    Let me give you a blueprint for the solution of this problem:



    Let $k$ be an arbitrary real number and $u,v$ be arbitrary elements in $V$.



    1. Since $u,v in V$, there are real numbers $a,b,x,y in mathbbR$ such that
      $$
      u = (x,y) quad textand quad v =(a,b).
      $$


    2. Compute $u+v$ by using your newly defined addition.

    3. Compute $k(u+v)$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

    4. Compute $ku$ and $kv$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

    5. Compute $ku + kv$ by using your newly defined addition.

    6. Compare your results from 3. and 5. by comparing the entries of the vectors. This shows whether your equality is true or not.

      • If the equality seems to be not true, try to find explicit $a,b,x,y$, so that the equality does not hold.


    If you need further help, then you can let me know and I try to give you more hints.






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      $begingroup$

      We would like to check if the equation
      $$
      k(u+v) = ku + kv
      $$

      is true for all $u,v in V$ and all $k in mathbbR$.



      Let me give you a blueprint for the solution of this problem:



      Let $k$ be an arbitrary real number and $u,v$ be arbitrary elements in $V$.



      1. Since $u,v in V$, there are real numbers $a,b,x,y in mathbbR$ such that
        $$
        u = (x,y) quad textand quad v =(a,b).
        $$


      2. Compute $u+v$ by using your newly defined addition.

      3. Compute $k(u+v)$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

      4. Compute $ku$ and $kv$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

      5. Compute $ku + kv$ by using your newly defined addition.

      6. Compare your results from 3. and 5. by comparing the entries of the vectors. This shows whether your equality is true or not.

        • If the equality seems to be not true, try to find explicit $a,b,x,y$, so that the equality does not hold.


      If you need further help, then you can let me know and I try to give you more hints.






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        $begingroup$

        We would like to check if the equation
        $$
        k(u+v) = ku + kv
        $$

        is true for all $u,v in V$ and all $k in mathbbR$.



        Let me give you a blueprint for the solution of this problem:



        Let $k$ be an arbitrary real number and $u,v$ be arbitrary elements in $V$.



        1. Since $u,v in V$, there are real numbers $a,b,x,y in mathbbR$ such that
          $$
          u = (x,y) quad textand quad v =(a,b).
          $$


        2. Compute $u+v$ by using your newly defined addition.

        3. Compute $k(u+v)$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

        4. Compute $ku$ and $kv$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

        5. Compute $ku + kv$ by using your newly defined addition.

        6. Compare your results from 3. and 5. by comparing the entries of the vectors. This shows whether your equality is true or not.

          • If the equality seems to be not true, try to find explicit $a,b,x,y$, so that the equality does not hold.


        If you need further help, then you can let me know and I try to give you more hints.






        share|cite|improve this answer









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        We would like to check if the equation
        $$
        k(u+v) = ku + kv
        $$

        is true for all $u,v in V$ and all $k in mathbbR$.



        Let me give you a blueprint for the solution of this problem:



        Let $k$ be an arbitrary real number and $u,v$ be arbitrary elements in $V$.



        1. Since $u,v in V$, there are real numbers $a,b,x,y in mathbbR$ such that
          $$
          u = (x,y) quad textand quad v =(a,b).
          $$


        2. Compute $u+v$ by using your newly defined addition.

        3. Compute $k(u+v)$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

        4. Compute $ku$ and $kv$ by using your newly defined multiplication.

        5. Compute $ku + kv$ by using your newly defined addition.

        6. Compare your results from 3. and 5. by comparing the entries of the vectors. This shows whether your equality is true or not.

          • If the equality seems to be not true, try to find explicit $a,b,x,y$, so that the equality does not hold.


        If you need further help, then you can let me know and I try to give you more hints.







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