Find the probability that a geometric random variable $X$ is an even number Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Probability $X$ is odd in a geometric distributionConditional expectation of a Geometric random variable conditioned on the event $A=X>3$Definition of a Random VariableLet $X$ be a discrete random variable with probability function $P(X=x)=frac23^x$ for $x = 1,2,3,ldots$ What is the probability that $X$ is even?Conditional probability involving a geometric random variableProbability that a geometric random variable is evenConditioning on a random variableExpected value of a quasi-geometric distribution whose event probability increases with failed attemptsLet Y be a Geometric Random Variable with parameter p, find EYFinding probability for geometric random variable$X$ be a geometric random variable, show that $P[X geq n] = (1-p)^n-1$

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Find the probability that a geometric random variable $X$ is an even number



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Probability $X$ is odd in a geometric distributionConditional expectation of a Geometric random variable conditioned on the event $A=X>3$Definition of a Random VariableLet $X$ be a discrete random variable with probability function $P(X=x)=frac23^x$ for $x = 1,2,3,ldots$ What is the probability that $X$ is even?Conditional probability involving a geometric random variableProbability that a geometric random variable is evenConditioning on a random variableExpected value of a quasi-geometric distribution whose event probability increases with failed attemptsLet Y be a Geometric Random Variable with parameter p, find EYFinding probability for geometric random variable$X$ be a geometric random variable, show that $P[X geq n] = (1-p)^n-1$










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Let $alpha$ be the probability that a geometric random variable $X$ with parameter p is an even number



a) Find $alpha$ using the identity $alpha=sum_i=1^inftyP[X=2i]$



b)Find $alpha$ by conditioning on wether $X=1$ or $X>1$



My attempt for a):



$$alpha=sum_i=1^inftyP[X=2i]=sum_i=1^inftyp(1-p)^2i-1=p(1-p)sum_i=1^infty(1-p)^2(i-1)$$ Letting $j=i-1$



$$p(1-p)sum_i=1^infty(1-p)^2(i-1)=p(1-p)sum_j=0^infty(1-p)^2j=p(1-p)over 1-(1-p)^2$$



hence $$alpha=1-pover 2-p$$



The thing is that I´m having trouble for b): Let $E$ be the event that a geometric random variable $X$ with parameter p is an even number, so : $P(E)=alpha$ I need to find this probability by conditioning on wether $X=1$ or $X>1$ therefore:



$$P(E)=P(E|X=1)P(X=1)+P(E|X>1)P(X>1)$$



but $P(E|X=1)=0$ hence $P(E)=P(E|X>1)P(X>1)$ then we have that $$P(X>1)=1-P(Xle 1)=1-p$$



But I´m having trouble computing $P(E|X>1)$ Can you help me please? I would really appreciate it :)










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    Hint: $mathsf P(Emid X>1) = 1-mathsf P(E)$, The probability of the rv being even given it is greater than one is equal to the probability of the rv being odd.
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Let $alpha$ be the probability that a geometric random variable $X$ with parameter p is an even number



a) Find $alpha$ using the identity $alpha=sum_i=1^inftyP[X=2i]$



b)Find $alpha$ by conditioning on wether $X=1$ or $X>1$



My attempt for a):



$$alpha=sum_i=1^inftyP[X=2i]=sum_i=1^inftyp(1-p)^2i-1=p(1-p)sum_i=1^infty(1-p)^2(i-1)$$ Letting $j=i-1$



$$p(1-p)sum_i=1^infty(1-p)^2(i-1)=p(1-p)sum_j=0^infty(1-p)^2j=p(1-p)over 1-(1-p)^2$$



hence $$alpha=1-pover 2-p$$



The thing is that I´m having trouble for b): Let $E$ be the event that a geometric random variable $X$ with parameter p is an even number, so : $P(E)=alpha$ I need to find this probability by conditioning on wether $X=1$ or $X>1$ therefore:



$$P(E)=P(E|X=1)P(X=1)+P(E|X>1)P(X>1)$$



but $P(E|X=1)=0$ hence $P(E)=P(E|X>1)P(X>1)$ then we have that $$P(X>1)=1-P(Xle 1)=1-p$$



But I´m having trouble computing $P(E|X>1)$ Can you help me please? I would really appreciate it :)










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Let $alpha$ be the probability that a geometric random variable $X$ with parameter p is an even number



a) Find $alpha$ using the identity $alpha=sum_i=1^inftyP[X=2i]$



b)Find $alpha$ by conditioning on wether $X=1$ or $X>1$



My attempt for a):



$$alpha=sum_i=1^inftyP[X=2i]=sum_i=1^inftyp(1-p)^2i-1=p(1-p)sum_i=1^infty(1-p)^2(i-1)$$ Letting $j=i-1$



$$p(1-p)sum_i=1^infty(1-p)^2(i-1)=p(1-p)sum_j=0^infty(1-p)^2j=p(1-p)over 1-(1-p)^2$$



hence $$alpha=1-pover 2-p$$



The thing is that I´m having trouble for b): Let $E$ be the event that a geometric random variable $X$ with parameter p is an even number, so : $P(E)=alpha$ I need to find this probability by conditioning on wether $X=1$ or $X>1$ therefore:



$$P(E)=P(E|X=1)P(X=1)+P(E|X>1)P(X>1)$$



but $P(E|X=1)=0$ hence $P(E)=P(E|X>1)P(X>1)$ then we have that $$P(X>1)=1-P(Xle 1)=1-p$$



But I´m having trouble computing $P(E|X>1)$ Can you help me please? I would really appreciate it :)










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Let $alpha$ be the probability that a geometric random variable $X$ with parameter p is an even number



a) Find $alpha$ using the identity $alpha=sum_i=1^inftyP[X=2i]$



b)Find $alpha$ by conditioning on wether $X=1$ or $X>1$



My attempt for a):



$$alpha=sum_i=1^inftyP[X=2i]=sum_i=1^inftyp(1-p)^2i-1=p(1-p)sum_i=1^infty(1-p)^2(i-1)$$ Letting $j=i-1$



$$p(1-p)sum_i=1^infty(1-p)^2(i-1)=p(1-p)sum_j=0^infty(1-p)^2j=p(1-p)over 1-(1-p)^2$$



hence $$alpha=1-pover 2-p$$



The thing is that I´m having trouble for b): Let $E$ be the event that a geometric random variable $X$ with parameter p is an even number, so : $P(E)=alpha$ I need to find this probability by conditioning on wether $X=1$ or $X>1$ therefore:



$$P(E)=P(E|X=1)P(X=1)+P(E|X>1)P(X>1)$$



but $P(E|X=1)=0$ hence $P(E)=P(E|X>1)P(X>1)$ then we have that $$P(X>1)=1-P(Xle 1)=1-p$$



But I´m having trouble computing $P(E|X>1)$ Can you help me please? I would really appreciate it :)







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    Hint: $mathsf P(Emid X>1) = 1-mathsf P(E)$, The probability of the rv being even given it is greater than one is equal to the probability of the rv being odd.
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    Hint: $mathsf P(Emid X>1) = 1-mathsf P(E)$, The probability of the rv being even given it is greater than one is equal to the probability of the rv being odd.
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Hint: $mathsf P(Emid X>1) = 1-mathsf P(E)$, The probability of the rv being even given it is greater than one is equal to the probability of the rv being odd.
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Hint: $mathsf P(Emid X>1) = 1-mathsf P(E)$, The probability of the rv being even given it is greater than one is equal to the probability of the rv being odd.
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We have
$$eqalign
P(hbox$X$ is even)
&=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X=1)P(X=1)+P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr
&=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr$$
since obviously the first term on the RHS is zero. Now the probability that $X$ is even, given that the first trial was a failure, is the same as the probability that $X$ is odd (because after the first failure you have an identical experiment, but you need an odd result in this experiment in order to get an even result overall). So
$$alpha=(1-alpha)(1-p)$$
and solving gives
$$alpha=frac1-p2-p .$$






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    Let $alpha$ be the required probability. In order for $X$ to be even, we must have a failure on the first trial, and have the number of trials after the first be odd. The probability of that, given that the first trial was a failure, is $1-alpha$. Thus
    $$alpha=(1-p)(1-alpha).$$
    Solve for $alpha$.






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    We have
    $$eqalign
    P(hbox$X$ is even)
    &=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X=1)P(X=1)+P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr
    &=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr$$
    since obviously the first term on the RHS is zero. Now the probability that $X$ is even, given that the first trial was a failure, is the same as the probability that $X$ is odd (because after the first failure you have an identical experiment, but you need an odd result in this experiment in order to get an even result overall). So
    $$alpha=(1-alpha)(1-p)$$
    and solving gives
    $$alpha=frac1-p2-p .$$






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      We have
      $$eqalign
      P(hbox$X$ is even)
      &=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X=1)P(X=1)+P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr
      &=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr$$
      since obviously the first term on the RHS is zero. Now the probability that $X$ is even, given that the first trial was a failure, is the same as the probability that $X$ is odd (because after the first failure you have an identical experiment, but you need an odd result in this experiment in order to get an even result overall). So
      $$alpha=(1-alpha)(1-p)$$
      and solving gives
      $$alpha=frac1-p2-p .$$






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        We have
        $$eqalign
        P(hbox$X$ is even)
        &=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X=1)P(X=1)+P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr
        &=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr$$
        since obviously the first term on the RHS is zero. Now the probability that $X$ is even, given that the first trial was a failure, is the same as the probability that $X$ is odd (because after the first failure you have an identical experiment, but you need an odd result in this experiment in order to get an even result overall). So
        $$alpha=(1-alpha)(1-p)$$
        and solving gives
        $$alpha=frac1-p2-p .$$






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        We have
        $$eqalign
        P(hbox$X$ is even)
        &=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X=1)P(X=1)+P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr
        &=P(hbox$X$ is evenmid X>1)P(X>1)cr$$
        since obviously the first term on the RHS is zero. Now the probability that $X$ is even, given that the first trial was a failure, is the same as the probability that $X$ is odd (because after the first failure you have an identical experiment, but you need an odd result in this experiment in order to get an even result overall). So
        $$alpha=(1-alpha)(1-p)$$
        and solving gives
        $$alpha=frac1-p2-p .$$







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            Let $alpha$ be the required probability. In order for $X$ to be even, we must have a failure on the first trial, and have the number of trials after the first be odd. The probability of that, given that the first trial was a failure, is $1-alpha$. Thus
            $$alpha=(1-p)(1-alpha).$$
            Solve for $alpha$.






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              I really appreciate your time, thanks @André :)
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              You are welcome. Conditioning on the first outcome (or the first few) can be very useful both for calculations of probability and for calculations of expectation.
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              Nov 10 '14 at 6:31















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            Let $alpha$ be the required probability. In order for $X$ to be even, we must have a failure on the first trial, and have the number of trials after the first be odd. The probability of that, given that the first trial was a failure, is $1-alpha$. Thus
            $$alpha=(1-p)(1-alpha).$$
            Solve for $alpha$.






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              I really appreciate your time, thanks @André :)
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              You are welcome. Conditioning on the first outcome (or the first few) can be very useful both for calculations of probability and for calculations of expectation.
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              Nov 10 '14 at 6:31













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            Let $alpha$ be the required probability. In order for $X$ to be even, we must have a failure on the first trial, and have the number of trials after the first be odd. The probability of that, given that the first trial was a failure, is $1-alpha$. Thus
            $$alpha=(1-p)(1-alpha).$$
            Solve for $alpha$.






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            Let $alpha$ be the required probability. In order for $X$ to be even, we must have a failure on the first trial, and have the number of trials after the first be odd. The probability of that, given that the first trial was a failure, is $1-alpha$. Thus
            $$alpha=(1-p)(1-alpha).$$
            Solve for $alpha$.







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              I really appreciate your time, thanks @André :)
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            • $begingroup$
              You are welcome. Conditioning on the first outcome (or the first few) can be very useful both for calculations of probability and for calculations of expectation.
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              I really appreciate your time, thanks @André :)
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              You are welcome. Conditioning on the first outcome (or the first few) can be very useful both for calculations of probability and for calculations of expectation.
              $endgroup$
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              Nov 10 '14 at 6:31















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            I really appreciate your time, thanks @André :)
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            You are welcome. Conditioning on the first outcome (or the first few) can be very useful both for calculations of probability and for calculations of expectation.
            $endgroup$
            – André Nicolas
            Nov 10 '14 at 6:31




            $begingroup$
            You are welcome. Conditioning on the first outcome (or the first few) can be very useful both for calculations of probability and for calculations of expectation.
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