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I have this matrix:



$$A = left(
beginarraycccc
0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \
1 & 0 & 0 & -1 \
0 & 1 & 0 & -1 \
0 & 0 & 1 & -1 \
endarray
right)$$



and I would like to show that it can be block diagonalised into :



$$ B = left(
beginarraycccc
cos 2pi/5 & -sin 2pi/5 & 0 & 0 \
sin 2pi/5 & cos 2pi/5 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & cos 4pi/5 & -sin 4pi/5 \
0 & 0 & sin 4pi/5 & cos 4pi/5\
endarray
right) = left(
beginarraycccc
frac14 left(-1+sqrt5right) & -sqrtfrac58+fracsqrt58 & 0 & 0 \
sqrtfrac58+fracsqrt58 & frac14 left(-1+sqrt5right) & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & frac14 left(-1-sqrt5right) & -sqrtfrac58-fracsqrt58 \
0 & 0 & sqrtfrac58-fracsqrt58 & frac14 left(-1-sqrt5right) \
endarray
right)$$



What is the general procedure?










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  • $begingroup$
    You've given us a specific example, but asked for a general procedure. In what way are you generalising? Do you want a general method for block-diagonalising a complex-diagonalisable real matrix?
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 23 at 1:52










  • $begingroup$
    Ideally yes. So that I can do this example and any other I encounter in the future...
    $endgroup$
    – SuperCiocia
    Mar 23 at 1:53















0












$begingroup$


I have this matrix:



$$A = left(
beginarraycccc
0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \
1 & 0 & 0 & -1 \
0 & 1 & 0 & -1 \
0 & 0 & 1 & -1 \
endarray
right)$$



and I would like to show that it can be block diagonalised into :



$$ B = left(
beginarraycccc
cos 2pi/5 & -sin 2pi/5 & 0 & 0 \
sin 2pi/5 & cos 2pi/5 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & cos 4pi/5 & -sin 4pi/5 \
0 & 0 & sin 4pi/5 & cos 4pi/5\
endarray
right) = left(
beginarraycccc
frac14 left(-1+sqrt5right) & -sqrtfrac58+fracsqrt58 & 0 & 0 \
sqrtfrac58+fracsqrt58 & frac14 left(-1+sqrt5right) & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & frac14 left(-1-sqrt5right) & -sqrtfrac58-fracsqrt58 \
0 & 0 & sqrtfrac58-fracsqrt58 & frac14 left(-1-sqrt5right) \
endarray
right)$$



What is the general procedure?










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  • $begingroup$
    You've given us a specific example, but asked for a general procedure. In what way are you generalising? Do you want a general method for block-diagonalising a complex-diagonalisable real matrix?
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 23 at 1:52










  • $begingroup$
    Ideally yes. So that I can do this example and any other I encounter in the future...
    $endgroup$
    – SuperCiocia
    Mar 23 at 1:53













0












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0





$begingroup$


I have this matrix:



$$A = left(
beginarraycccc
0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \
1 & 0 & 0 & -1 \
0 & 1 & 0 & -1 \
0 & 0 & 1 & -1 \
endarray
right)$$



and I would like to show that it can be block diagonalised into :



$$ B = left(
beginarraycccc
cos 2pi/5 & -sin 2pi/5 & 0 & 0 \
sin 2pi/5 & cos 2pi/5 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & cos 4pi/5 & -sin 4pi/5 \
0 & 0 & sin 4pi/5 & cos 4pi/5\
endarray
right) = left(
beginarraycccc
frac14 left(-1+sqrt5right) & -sqrtfrac58+fracsqrt58 & 0 & 0 \
sqrtfrac58+fracsqrt58 & frac14 left(-1+sqrt5right) & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & frac14 left(-1-sqrt5right) & -sqrtfrac58-fracsqrt58 \
0 & 0 & sqrtfrac58-fracsqrt58 & frac14 left(-1-sqrt5right) \
endarray
right)$$



What is the general procedure?










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I have this matrix:



$$A = left(
beginarraycccc
0 & 0 & 0 & -1 \
1 & 0 & 0 & -1 \
0 & 1 & 0 & -1 \
0 & 0 & 1 & -1 \
endarray
right)$$



and I would like to show that it can be block diagonalised into :



$$ B = left(
beginarraycccc
cos 2pi/5 & -sin 2pi/5 & 0 & 0 \
sin 2pi/5 & cos 2pi/5 & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & cos 4pi/5 & -sin 4pi/5 \
0 & 0 & sin 4pi/5 & cos 4pi/5\
endarray
right) = left(
beginarraycccc
frac14 left(-1+sqrt5right) & -sqrtfrac58+fracsqrt58 & 0 & 0 \
sqrtfrac58+fracsqrt58 & frac14 left(-1+sqrt5right) & 0 & 0 \
0 & 0 & frac14 left(-1-sqrt5right) & -sqrtfrac58-fracsqrt58 \
0 & 0 & sqrtfrac58-fracsqrt58 & frac14 left(-1-sqrt5right) \
endarray
right)$$



What is the general procedure?







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  • $begingroup$
    You've given us a specific example, but asked for a general procedure. In what way are you generalising? Do you want a general method for block-diagonalising a complex-diagonalisable real matrix?
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 23 at 1:52










  • $begingroup$
    Ideally yes. So that I can do this example and any other I encounter in the future...
    $endgroup$
    – SuperCiocia
    Mar 23 at 1:53
















  • $begingroup$
    You've given us a specific example, but asked for a general procedure. In what way are you generalising? Do you want a general method for block-diagonalising a complex-diagonalisable real matrix?
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 23 at 1:52










  • $begingroup$
    Ideally yes. So that I can do this example and any other I encounter in the future...
    $endgroup$
    – SuperCiocia
    Mar 23 at 1:53















$begingroup$
You've given us a specific example, but asked for a general procedure. In what way are you generalising? Do you want a general method for block-diagonalising a complex-diagonalisable real matrix?
$endgroup$
– Theo Bendit
Mar 23 at 1:52




$begingroup$
You've given us a specific example, but asked for a general procedure. In what way are you generalising? Do you want a general method for block-diagonalising a complex-diagonalisable real matrix?
$endgroup$
– Theo Bendit
Mar 23 at 1:52












$begingroup$
Ideally yes. So that I can do this example and any other I encounter in the future...
$endgroup$
– SuperCiocia
Mar 23 at 1:53




$begingroup$
Ideally yes. So that I can do this example and any other I encounter in the future...
$endgroup$
– SuperCiocia
Mar 23 at 1:53










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When you diagonalise a matrix over the complex numbers, you start by finding its eigenvalues, which may be complex. If the matrix is diagonalisable, then we can expect a basis of eigenvectors corresponding to these eigenvalues. If we compute the transformation $x mapsto Ax$ in terms of this basis of eigenvectors, we get a complex diagonal matrix, similar to $A$.



To block-diagonalise $A$ over the reals, again find all the complex eigenvalues and a basis of eigenvectors. Suppose $alpha + i beta$ is a non-real eigenvalue, with corresponding eigenvector $v + i w$, where $v, w$ are vectors with real components. One can easily verify that $alpha - i beta$ is another eigenvalue with eigenvector $v - i w$. We can form a basis of eigenvectors such that, if $v + iw$ is in the basis (where $v$ and $w$ are real vectors), then so is $v - iw$.



Now, form a real basis like so: replace the conjugate eigenvector pairs $v pm i w$ with the vectors $v, w$. If $v + iw$ has an eigenvalue $alpha + i beta$, then
beginalign*
Av &= A left(frac(v + iw) + (v - iw)2right) \
&= frac(alpha + ibeta)(v + iw) + (alpha - ibeta)(v - iw)2 \
&= fracalpha v + i beta v + i alpha w - beta w + alpha v - i beta v - i alpha w - beta w2 \
&= alpha v - beta w.
endalign*

Similar calculation reveals
$$Aw = beta v + alpha w.$$
So, when computing the matrix for $x mapsto Ax$ with this basis, you'll find a block diagonal form, where each block is either a $1 times 1$ block containing a real eigenvalue, or a $2 times 2$ block of the form
$$beginpmatrix alpha & beta \ -beta & alpha endpmatrix,$$
where $alpha pm beta i$ is a non-real eigenvalue of $A$.






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    it is already a companion matrix (both that form and its transpose are used, depends on circumstances). The characteristic polynomial is $$x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 = fracx^5-1x-1$$
    With four distinct eigenvalues (complex) it diagonalizes. Next, you need to figure out how to take a specific diagonal matrix, with complex $alpha$ such that $|alpha| = 1,$
    $$
    left(
    beginarrayrr
    alpha & 0 \
    0 & baralpha
    endarray
    right)
    $$

    and send it back to one of your two by two blocks with sine and cosine.



    To reverse the job: with some real angle $theta,$ exactly how do you diagonalize
    $$
    left(
    beginarrayrr
    cos theta & -sin theta \
    sin theta & cos theta
    endarray
    right) ; ; ? ;
    $$






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    • $begingroup$
      Hey thanks. I am a physicists so I have little idea of what you just said. I can diagonalise $A$ all right. How do i find $alpha$?
      $endgroup$
      – SuperCiocia
      Mar 23 at 1:54










    • $begingroup$
      @SuperCiocia what are the eigenvalues of one of your two by two matrices with sine and cosine of some angle?
      $endgroup$
      – Will Jagy
      Mar 23 at 1:56










    • $begingroup$
      $cos (theta )-i sin (theta )$ and $cos (theta )+i sin (theta )$
      $endgroup$
      – SuperCiocia
      Mar 23 at 1:57











    • $begingroup$
      @SuperCiocia alright, starting with your real matrix $R$ and desired diagonal complex matrix $C,$ what is a matrix $P$ with $P^-1R P = C ; ? ; ;$ Note that this also gives $PC P^-1 = R ; , ; ;$ which is why I brought it up in this fashion
      $endgroup$
      – Will Jagy
      Mar 23 at 2:01










    • $begingroup$
      I would make $P$ from the eigenvectors or $R$. Which gives me $alpha$ complex exponentials?
      $endgroup$
      – SuperCiocia
      Mar 23 at 2:07











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    When you diagonalise a matrix over the complex numbers, you start by finding its eigenvalues, which may be complex. If the matrix is diagonalisable, then we can expect a basis of eigenvectors corresponding to these eigenvalues. If we compute the transformation $x mapsto Ax$ in terms of this basis of eigenvectors, we get a complex diagonal matrix, similar to $A$.



    To block-diagonalise $A$ over the reals, again find all the complex eigenvalues and a basis of eigenvectors. Suppose $alpha + i beta$ is a non-real eigenvalue, with corresponding eigenvector $v + i w$, where $v, w$ are vectors with real components. One can easily verify that $alpha - i beta$ is another eigenvalue with eigenvector $v - i w$. We can form a basis of eigenvectors such that, if $v + iw$ is in the basis (where $v$ and $w$ are real vectors), then so is $v - iw$.



    Now, form a real basis like so: replace the conjugate eigenvector pairs $v pm i w$ with the vectors $v, w$. If $v + iw$ has an eigenvalue $alpha + i beta$, then
    beginalign*
    Av &= A left(frac(v + iw) + (v - iw)2right) \
    &= frac(alpha + ibeta)(v + iw) + (alpha - ibeta)(v - iw)2 \
    &= fracalpha v + i beta v + i alpha w - beta w + alpha v - i beta v - i alpha w - beta w2 \
    &= alpha v - beta w.
    endalign*

    Similar calculation reveals
    $$Aw = beta v + alpha w.$$
    So, when computing the matrix for $x mapsto Ax$ with this basis, you'll find a block diagonal form, where each block is either a $1 times 1$ block containing a real eigenvalue, or a $2 times 2$ block of the form
    $$beginpmatrix alpha & beta \ -beta & alpha endpmatrix,$$
    where $alpha pm beta i$ is a non-real eigenvalue of $A$.






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      $begingroup$

      When you diagonalise a matrix over the complex numbers, you start by finding its eigenvalues, which may be complex. If the matrix is diagonalisable, then we can expect a basis of eigenvectors corresponding to these eigenvalues. If we compute the transformation $x mapsto Ax$ in terms of this basis of eigenvectors, we get a complex diagonal matrix, similar to $A$.



      To block-diagonalise $A$ over the reals, again find all the complex eigenvalues and a basis of eigenvectors. Suppose $alpha + i beta$ is a non-real eigenvalue, with corresponding eigenvector $v + i w$, where $v, w$ are vectors with real components. One can easily verify that $alpha - i beta$ is another eigenvalue with eigenvector $v - i w$. We can form a basis of eigenvectors such that, if $v + iw$ is in the basis (where $v$ and $w$ are real vectors), then so is $v - iw$.



      Now, form a real basis like so: replace the conjugate eigenvector pairs $v pm i w$ with the vectors $v, w$. If $v + iw$ has an eigenvalue $alpha + i beta$, then
      beginalign*
      Av &= A left(frac(v + iw) + (v - iw)2right) \
      &= frac(alpha + ibeta)(v + iw) + (alpha - ibeta)(v - iw)2 \
      &= fracalpha v + i beta v + i alpha w - beta w + alpha v - i beta v - i alpha w - beta w2 \
      &= alpha v - beta w.
      endalign*

      Similar calculation reveals
      $$Aw = beta v + alpha w.$$
      So, when computing the matrix for $x mapsto Ax$ with this basis, you'll find a block diagonal form, where each block is either a $1 times 1$ block containing a real eigenvalue, or a $2 times 2$ block of the form
      $$beginpmatrix alpha & beta \ -beta & alpha endpmatrix,$$
      where $alpha pm beta i$ is a non-real eigenvalue of $A$.






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        $begingroup$

        When you diagonalise a matrix over the complex numbers, you start by finding its eigenvalues, which may be complex. If the matrix is diagonalisable, then we can expect a basis of eigenvectors corresponding to these eigenvalues. If we compute the transformation $x mapsto Ax$ in terms of this basis of eigenvectors, we get a complex diagonal matrix, similar to $A$.



        To block-diagonalise $A$ over the reals, again find all the complex eigenvalues and a basis of eigenvectors. Suppose $alpha + i beta$ is a non-real eigenvalue, with corresponding eigenvector $v + i w$, where $v, w$ are vectors with real components. One can easily verify that $alpha - i beta$ is another eigenvalue with eigenvector $v - i w$. We can form a basis of eigenvectors such that, if $v + iw$ is in the basis (where $v$ and $w$ are real vectors), then so is $v - iw$.



        Now, form a real basis like so: replace the conjugate eigenvector pairs $v pm i w$ with the vectors $v, w$. If $v + iw$ has an eigenvalue $alpha + i beta$, then
        beginalign*
        Av &= A left(frac(v + iw) + (v - iw)2right) \
        &= frac(alpha + ibeta)(v + iw) + (alpha - ibeta)(v - iw)2 \
        &= fracalpha v + i beta v + i alpha w - beta w + alpha v - i beta v - i alpha w - beta w2 \
        &= alpha v - beta w.
        endalign*

        Similar calculation reveals
        $$Aw = beta v + alpha w.$$
        So, when computing the matrix for $x mapsto Ax$ with this basis, you'll find a block diagonal form, where each block is either a $1 times 1$ block containing a real eigenvalue, or a $2 times 2$ block of the form
        $$beginpmatrix alpha & beta \ -beta & alpha endpmatrix,$$
        where $alpha pm beta i$ is a non-real eigenvalue of $A$.






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        When you diagonalise a matrix over the complex numbers, you start by finding its eigenvalues, which may be complex. If the matrix is diagonalisable, then we can expect a basis of eigenvectors corresponding to these eigenvalues. If we compute the transformation $x mapsto Ax$ in terms of this basis of eigenvectors, we get a complex diagonal matrix, similar to $A$.



        To block-diagonalise $A$ over the reals, again find all the complex eigenvalues and a basis of eigenvectors. Suppose $alpha + i beta$ is a non-real eigenvalue, with corresponding eigenvector $v + i w$, where $v, w$ are vectors with real components. One can easily verify that $alpha - i beta$ is another eigenvalue with eigenvector $v - i w$. We can form a basis of eigenvectors such that, if $v + iw$ is in the basis (where $v$ and $w$ are real vectors), then so is $v - iw$.



        Now, form a real basis like so: replace the conjugate eigenvector pairs $v pm i w$ with the vectors $v, w$. If $v + iw$ has an eigenvalue $alpha + i beta$, then
        beginalign*
        Av &= A left(frac(v + iw) + (v - iw)2right) \
        &= frac(alpha + ibeta)(v + iw) + (alpha - ibeta)(v - iw)2 \
        &= fracalpha v + i beta v + i alpha w - beta w + alpha v - i beta v - i alpha w - beta w2 \
        &= alpha v - beta w.
        endalign*

        Similar calculation reveals
        $$Aw = beta v + alpha w.$$
        So, when computing the matrix for $x mapsto Ax$ with this basis, you'll find a block diagonal form, where each block is either a $1 times 1$ block containing a real eigenvalue, or a $2 times 2$ block of the form
        $$beginpmatrix alpha & beta \ -beta & alpha endpmatrix,$$
        where $alpha pm beta i$ is a non-real eigenvalue of $A$.







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            it is already a companion matrix (both that form and its transpose are used, depends on circumstances). The characteristic polynomial is $$x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 = fracx^5-1x-1$$
            With four distinct eigenvalues (complex) it diagonalizes. Next, you need to figure out how to take a specific diagonal matrix, with complex $alpha$ such that $|alpha| = 1,$
            $$
            left(
            beginarrayrr
            alpha & 0 \
            0 & baralpha
            endarray
            right)
            $$

            and send it back to one of your two by two blocks with sine and cosine.



            To reverse the job: with some real angle $theta,$ exactly how do you diagonalize
            $$
            left(
            beginarrayrr
            cos theta & -sin theta \
            sin theta & cos theta
            endarray
            right) ; ; ? ;
            $$






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            • $begingroup$
              Hey thanks. I am a physicists so I have little idea of what you just said. I can diagonalise $A$ all right. How do i find $alpha$?
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 1:54










            • $begingroup$
              @SuperCiocia what are the eigenvalues of one of your two by two matrices with sine and cosine of some angle?
              $endgroup$
              – Will Jagy
              Mar 23 at 1:56










            • $begingroup$
              $cos (theta )-i sin (theta )$ and $cos (theta )+i sin (theta )$
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 1:57











            • $begingroup$
              @SuperCiocia alright, starting with your real matrix $R$ and desired diagonal complex matrix $C,$ what is a matrix $P$ with $P^-1R P = C ; ? ; ;$ Note that this also gives $PC P^-1 = R ; , ; ;$ which is why I brought it up in this fashion
              $endgroup$
              – Will Jagy
              Mar 23 at 2:01










            • $begingroup$
              I would make $P$ from the eigenvectors or $R$. Which gives me $alpha$ complex exponentials?
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 2:07















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            $begingroup$

            it is already a companion matrix (both that form and its transpose are used, depends on circumstances). The characteristic polynomial is $$x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 = fracx^5-1x-1$$
            With four distinct eigenvalues (complex) it diagonalizes. Next, you need to figure out how to take a specific diagonal matrix, with complex $alpha$ such that $|alpha| = 1,$
            $$
            left(
            beginarrayrr
            alpha & 0 \
            0 & baralpha
            endarray
            right)
            $$

            and send it back to one of your two by two blocks with sine and cosine.



            To reverse the job: with some real angle $theta,$ exactly how do you diagonalize
            $$
            left(
            beginarrayrr
            cos theta & -sin theta \
            sin theta & cos theta
            endarray
            right) ; ; ? ;
            $$






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            • $begingroup$
              Hey thanks. I am a physicists so I have little idea of what you just said. I can diagonalise $A$ all right. How do i find $alpha$?
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 1:54










            • $begingroup$
              @SuperCiocia what are the eigenvalues of one of your two by two matrices with sine and cosine of some angle?
              $endgroup$
              – Will Jagy
              Mar 23 at 1:56










            • $begingroup$
              $cos (theta )-i sin (theta )$ and $cos (theta )+i sin (theta )$
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 1:57











            • $begingroup$
              @SuperCiocia alright, starting with your real matrix $R$ and desired diagonal complex matrix $C,$ what is a matrix $P$ with $P^-1R P = C ; ? ; ;$ Note that this also gives $PC P^-1 = R ; , ; ;$ which is why I brought it up in this fashion
              $endgroup$
              – Will Jagy
              Mar 23 at 2:01










            • $begingroup$
              I would make $P$ from the eigenvectors or $R$. Which gives me $alpha$ complex exponentials?
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 2:07













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            it is already a companion matrix (both that form and its transpose are used, depends on circumstances). The characteristic polynomial is $$x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 = fracx^5-1x-1$$
            With four distinct eigenvalues (complex) it diagonalizes. Next, you need to figure out how to take a specific diagonal matrix, with complex $alpha$ such that $|alpha| = 1,$
            $$
            left(
            beginarrayrr
            alpha & 0 \
            0 & baralpha
            endarray
            right)
            $$

            and send it back to one of your two by two blocks with sine and cosine.



            To reverse the job: with some real angle $theta,$ exactly how do you diagonalize
            $$
            left(
            beginarrayrr
            cos theta & -sin theta \
            sin theta & cos theta
            endarray
            right) ; ; ? ;
            $$






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            it is already a companion matrix (both that form and its transpose are used, depends on circumstances). The characteristic polynomial is $$x^4 + x^3 + x^2 + x + 1 = fracx^5-1x-1$$
            With four distinct eigenvalues (complex) it diagonalizes. Next, you need to figure out how to take a specific diagonal matrix, with complex $alpha$ such that $|alpha| = 1,$
            $$
            left(
            beginarrayrr
            alpha & 0 \
            0 & baralpha
            endarray
            right)
            $$

            and send it back to one of your two by two blocks with sine and cosine.



            To reverse the job: with some real angle $theta,$ exactly how do you diagonalize
            $$
            left(
            beginarrayrr
            cos theta & -sin theta \
            sin theta & cos theta
            endarray
            right) ; ; ? ;
            $$







            share|cite|improve this answer














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            edited Mar 23 at 1:55

























            answered Mar 23 at 1:50









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            • $begingroup$
              Hey thanks. I am a physicists so I have little idea of what you just said. I can diagonalise $A$ all right. How do i find $alpha$?
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 1:54










            • $begingroup$
              @SuperCiocia what are the eigenvalues of one of your two by two matrices with sine and cosine of some angle?
              $endgroup$
              – Will Jagy
              Mar 23 at 1:56










            • $begingroup$
              $cos (theta )-i sin (theta )$ and $cos (theta )+i sin (theta )$
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 1:57











            • $begingroup$
              @SuperCiocia alright, starting with your real matrix $R$ and desired diagonal complex matrix $C,$ what is a matrix $P$ with $P^-1R P = C ; ? ; ;$ Note that this also gives $PC P^-1 = R ; , ; ;$ which is why I brought it up in this fashion
              $endgroup$
              – Will Jagy
              Mar 23 at 2:01










            • $begingroup$
              I would make $P$ from the eigenvectors or $R$. Which gives me $alpha$ complex exponentials?
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 2:07
















            • $begingroup$
              Hey thanks. I am a physicists so I have little idea of what you just said. I can diagonalise $A$ all right. How do i find $alpha$?
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 1:54










            • $begingroup$
              @SuperCiocia what are the eigenvalues of one of your two by two matrices with sine and cosine of some angle?
              $endgroup$
              – Will Jagy
              Mar 23 at 1:56










            • $begingroup$
              $cos (theta )-i sin (theta )$ and $cos (theta )+i sin (theta )$
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 1:57











            • $begingroup$
              @SuperCiocia alright, starting with your real matrix $R$ and desired diagonal complex matrix $C,$ what is a matrix $P$ with $P^-1R P = C ; ? ; ;$ Note that this also gives $PC P^-1 = R ; , ; ;$ which is why I brought it up in this fashion
              $endgroup$
              – Will Jagy
              Mar 23 at 2:01










            • $begingroup$
              I would make $P$ from the eigenvectors or $R$. Which gives me $alpha$ complex exponentials?
              $endgroup$
              – SuperCiocia
              Mar 23 at 2:07















            $begingroup$
            Hey thanks. I am a physicists so I have little idea of what you just said. I can diagonalise $A$ all right. How do i find $alpha$?
            $endgroup$
            – SuperCiocia
            Mar 23 at 1:54




            $begingroup$
            Hey thanks. I am a physicists so I have little idea of what you just said. I can diagonalise $A$ all right. How do i find $alpha$?
            $endgroup$
            – SuperCiocia
            Mar 23 at 1:54












            $begingroup$
            @SuperCiocia what are the eigenvalues of one of your two by two matrices with sine and cosine of some angle?
            $endgroup$
            – Will Jagy
            Mar 23 at 1:56




            $begingroup$
            @SuperCiocia what are the eigenvalues of one of your two by two matrices with sine and cosine of some angle?
            $endgroup$
            – Will Jagy
            Mar 23 at 1:56












            $begingroup$
            $cos (theta )-i sin (theta )$ and $cos (theta )+i sin (theta )$
            $endgroup$
            – SuperCiocia
            Mar 23 at 1:57





            $begingroup$
            $cos (theta )-i sin (theta )$ and $cos (theta )+i sin (theta )$
            $endgroup$
            – SuperCiocia
            Mar 23 at 1:57













            $begingroup$
            @SuperCiocia alright, starting with your real matrix $R$ and desired diagonal complex matrix $C,$ what is a matrix $P$ with $P^-1R P = C ; ? ; ;$ Note that this also gives $PC P^-1 = R ; , ; ;$ which is why I brought it up in this fashion
            $endgroup$
            – Will Jagy
            Mar 23 at 2:01




            $begingroup$
            @SuperCiocia alright, starting with your real matrix $R$ and desired diagonal complex matrix $C,$ what is a matrix $P$ with $P^-1R P = C ; ? ; ;$ Note that this also gives $PC P^-1 = R ; , ; ;$ which is why I brought it up in this fashion
            $endgroup$
            – Will Jagy
            Mar 23 at 2:01












            $begingroup$
            I would make $P$ from the eigenvectors or $R$. Which gives me $alpha$ complex exponentials?
            $endgroup$
            – SuperCiocia
            Mar 23 at 2:07




            $begingroup$
            I would make $P$ from the eigenvectors or $R$. Which gives me $alpha$ complex exponentials?
            $endgroup$
            – SuperCiocia
            Mar 23 at 2:07

















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