What is meant by the absolute convergence of the infinite product $prodlimits_n=1^infty frac 1 1+a_n$? The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InProof of a theorem of Cauchy's on the convergence of an infinite productsufficiency and necessity of convergence of $sum a_n$ wrt convergence of $prod (1 + a_n)$absolute convergence of $sum _n=1^infty a_n$ imply?Why is the convergence absolute?What is the definition of the absolute convergence of an infinite product $(1+a_1)(1+a_2)(1+a_3)cdots$?If $prodlimits_n(1+a_n)$ converges, does $sumlimits_nfraca_n1+a_n$ converge?Does $a_0+sum limits_n=1^infty(a_n+a_-n)=sum limits_n=-infty^+inftya_n$?Equivalence of convergence of a series and convergence of an infinite productAbsolute convergence of $sum_n=0^inftya_nimpliessum_n=0^inftya_n^2$ is absolute convergent tooConvergence of $sumlimits_n=0^infty (1-|a_n|)$
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What is meant by the absolute convergence of the infinite product $prodlimits_n=1^infty frac 1 1+a_n$?
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InProof of a theorem of Cauchy's on the convergence of an infinite productsufficiency and necessity of convergence of $sum a_n$ wrt convergence of $prod (1 + a_n)$absolute convergence of $sum _n=1^infty a_n$ imply?Why is the convergence absolute?What is the definition of the absolute convergence of an infinite product $(1+a_1)(1+a_2)(1+a_3)cdots$?If $prodlimits_n(1+a_n)$ converges, does $sumlimits_nfraca_n1+a_n$ converge?Does $a_0+sum limits_n=1^infty(a_n+a_-n)=sum limits_n=-infty^+inftya_n$?Equivalence of convergence of a series and convergence of an infinite productAbsolute convergence of $sum_n=0^inftya_nimpliessum_n=0^inftya_n^2$ is absolute convergent tooConvergence of $sumlimits_n=0^infty (1-|a_n|)$
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Let $a_n $ be a sequence of real numbers. Consider the infinite product
$$prodlimits_n=1^infty frac 1 1+a_n.$$
When do we say that the above infinite product is absolutely convergent? In the notion of an infinite series I know that a series $sumlimits_n=1^infty a_n$ is absolutely convergent if $sumlimits_n=1^infty |a_n|$ is convergent. For the case of infinite series I also know that absolute convergence implies convergence. Do all these results hold for infinite product too? Please help me in this regard.
Thank you so much for your valuable time.
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Let $a_n $ be a sequence of real numbers. Consider the infinite product
$$prodlimits_n=1^infty frac 1 1+a_n.$$
When do we say that the above infinite product is absolutely convergent? In the notion of an infinite series I know that a series $sumlimits_n=1^infty a_n$ is absolutely convergent if $sumlimits_n=1^infty |a_n|$ is convergent. For the case of infinite series I also know that absolute convergence implies convergence. Do all these results hold for infinite product too? Please help me in this regard.
Thank you so much for your valuable time.
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Let $a_n $ be a sequence of real numbers. Consider the infinite product
$$prodlimits_n=1^infty frac 1 1+a_n.$$
When do we say that the above infinite product is absolutely convergent? In the notion of an infinite series I know that a series $sumlimits_n=1^infty a_n$ is absolutely convergent if $sumlimits_n=1^infty |a_n|$ is convergent. For the case of infinite series I also know that absolute convergence implies convergence. Do all these results hold for infinite product too? Please help me in this regard.
Thank you so much for your valuable time.
sequences-and-series convergence
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Let $a_n $ be a sequence of real numbers. Consider the infinite product
$$prodlimits_n=1^infty frac 1 1+a_n.$$
When do we say that the above infinite product is absolutely convergent? In the notion of an infinite series I know that a series $sumlimits_n=1^infty a_n$ is absolutely convergent if $sumlimits_n=1^infty |a_n|$ is convergent. For the case of infinite series I also know that absolute convergence implies convergence. Do all these results hold for infinite product too? Please help me in this regard.
Thank you so much for your valuable time.
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For convergence of the product, we need $limlimits_ntoinftya_n=0$. That means that there is an $N$ so that for $nge N$, $|a_n|lt1$. Then,
$$
logleft(prod_n=N^inftyfrac11+a_nright)=-sum_n=N^inftylog(1+a_n)
$$
Thus, the convergence of the product is the same as the convergence of the sum of the logs. Absolute convergence of the product is the same as absolute convergence of the sum of the logarithms.
Therefore, absolute convergence of the product implies convergence of the product.
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Definition
The infinite product $prod (1+b_j)$ is said to converge absolutely iff the infinite series $sum b_j$ converges absolutely.
(Any text that discusses infinite products should include this definition. And it should include the theorem that if an infinite product converges absolutely, then it converges.)
Your case:
$$
prodfrac11+a_j = prod (1+b_j),
$$
where
$$
b_j = 1 - frac11+a_j = fraca_j1+a_j
$$
So the criterion becomes:
$$
sumleft|fraca_j1+a_jright| < +infty
$$
As noted, this is equivalent to $sum |a_j| < +infty$.
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If we define $$S=prod_n=1^inftyleft|1over 1+a_nright|$$then we have $$ln S=sum_n=1^inftyln left|1over 1+a_nright|$$Since boundedness of $S>0$ is equivalent to the boundedness of $ln S$, then any criteria on the absolute convergence of product of $mathbfleft1over 1+a_nright$ is equivalent to that for the convergence of the sum of $mathbflnleft$.
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I'd say $sum ln frac11+$ instead otherwise you'll have some trouble with $a_n=-2$
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– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:02
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@reuns suppose it is given that $sum ln frac 1 a_n$ is convergent. Does that imply $sum ln frac 1 1+a_n$ is also convergent?
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– math maniac.
Mar 23 at 7:08
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If $a_n=-2$ constantly, then by substitution $S=1$, but the product (itself, not the absolute value) oscillates between $-1$ and $1$, i.e. despite absolute convergence, the product doesn't converge to any real number (an odd thing!). Also $sumln$ is an infimum to $sunln$.
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– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:08
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Absolute convergence of the product doesn't mean $prod_n |frac11+a_n|$ converges in $BbbC^*$ but that $prod_n frac11+a_n$ converges in $BbbC^*$ independently of the ordering. For this we look at the convergence of $sum_n f(a_n)$ with $f(x) = ln(1+|x|)$ or $f(x) = |x|$ with just a subtlety if $a_n=-1$ for some $n$
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– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:11
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@reuns, yes it does. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_convergence
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For convergence of the product, we need $limlimits_ntoinftya_n=0$. That means that there is an $N$ so that for $nge N$, $|a_n|lt1$. Then,
$$
logleft(prod_n=N^inftyfrac11+a_nright)=-sum_n=N^inftylog(1+a_n)
$$
Thus, the convergence of the product is the same as the convergence of the sum of the logs. Absolute convergence of the product is the same as absolute convergence of the sum of the logarithms.
Therefore, absolute convergence of the product implies convergence of the product.
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For convergence of the product, we need $limlimits_ntoinftya_n=0$. That means that there is an $N$ so that for $nge N$, $|a_n|lt1$. Then,
$$
logleft(prod_n=N^inftyfrac11+a_nright)=-sum_n=N^inftylog(1+a_n)
$$
Thus, the convergence of the product is the same as the convergence of the sum of the logs. Absolute convergence of the product is the same as absolute convergence of the sum of the logarithms.
Therefore, absolute convergence of the product implies convergence of the product.
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add a comment |
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For convergence of the product, we need $limlimits_ntoinftya_n=0$. That means that there is an $N$ so that for $nge N$, $|a_n|lt1$. Then,
$$
logleft(prod_n=N^inftyfrac11+a_nright)=-sum_n=N^inftylog(1+a_n)
$$
Thus, the convergence of the product is the same as the convergence of the sum of the logs. Absolute convergence of the product is the same as absolute convergence of the sum of the logarithms.
Therefore, absolute convergence of the product implies convergence of the product.
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For convergence of the product, we need $limlimits_ntoinftya_n=0$. That means that there is an $N$ so that for $nge N$, $|a_n|lt1$. Then,
$$
logleft(prod_n=N^inftyfrac11+a_nright)=-sum_n=N^inftylog(1+a_n)
$$
Thus, the convergence of the product is the same as the convergence of the sum of the logs. Absolute convergence of the product is the same as absolute convergence of the sum of the logarithms.
Therefore, absolute convergence of the product implies convergence of the product.
answered Mar 23 at 7:59
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Definition
The infinite product $prod (1+b_j)$ is said to converge absolutely iff the infinite series $sum b_j$ converges absolutely.
(Any text that discusses infinite products should include this definition. And it should include the theorem that if an infinite product converges absolutely, then it converges.)
Your case:
$$
prodfrac11+a_j = prod (1+b_j),
$$
where
$$
b_j = 1 - frac11+a_j = fraca_j1+a_j
$$
So the criterion becomes:
$$
sumleft|fraca_j1+a_jright| < +infty
$$
As noted, this is equivalent to $sum |a_j| < +infty$.
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add a comment |
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Definition
The infinite product $prod (1+b_j)$ is said to converge absolutely iff the infinite series $sum b_j$ converges absolutely.
(Any text that discusses infinite products should include this definition. And it should include the theorem that if an infinite product converges absolutely, then it converges.)
Your case:
$$
prodfrac11+a_j = prod (1+b_j),
$$
where
$$
b_j = 1 - frac11+a_j = fraca_j1+a_j
$$
So the criterion becomes:
$$
sumleft|fraca_j1+a_jright| < +infty
$$
As noted, this is equivalent to $sum |a_j| < +infty$.
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Definition
The infinite product $prod (1+b_j)$ is said to converge absolutely iff the infinite series $sum b_j$ converges absolutely.
(Any text that discusses infinite products should include this definition. And it should include the theorem that if an infinite product converges absolutely, then it converges.)
Your case:
$$
prodfrac11+a_j = prod (1+b_j),
$$
where
$$
b_j = 1 - frac11+a_j = fraca_j1+a_j
$$
So the criterion becomes:
$$
sumleft|fraca_j1+a_jright| < +infty
$$
As noted, this is equivalent to $sum |a_j| < +infty$.
$endgroup$
Definition
The infinite product $prod (1+b_j)$ is said to converge absolutely iff the infinite series $sum b_j$ converges absolutely.
(Any text that discusses infinite products should include this definition. And it should include the theorem that if an infinite product converges absolutely, then it converges.)
Your case:
$$
prodfrac11+a_j = prod (1+b_j),
$$
where
$$
b_j = 1 - frac11+a_j = fraca_j1+a_j
$$
So the criterion becomes:
$$
sumleft|fraca_j1+a_jright| < +infty
$$
As noted, this is equivalent to $sum |a_j| < +infty$.
answered Mar 23 at 11:53
GEdgarGEdgar
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If we define $$S=prod_n=1^inftyleft|1over 1+a_nright|$$then we have $$ln S=sum_n=1^inftyln left|1over 1+a_nright|$$Since boundedness of $S>0$ is equivalent to the boundedness of $ln S$, then any criteria on the absolute convergence of product of $mathbfleft1over 1+a_nright$ is equivalent to that for the convergence of the sum of $mathbflnleft$.
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I'd say $sum ln frac11+$ instead otherwise you'll have some trouble with $a_n=-2$
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– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:02
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@reuns suppose it is given that $sum ln frac 1 a_n$ is convergent. Does that imply $sum ln frac 1 1+a_n$ is also convergent?
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– math maniac.
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
If $a_n=-2$ constantly, then by substitution $S=1$, but the product (itself, not the absolute value) oscillates between $-1$ and $1$, i.e. despite absolute convergence, the product doesn't converge to any real number (an odd thing!). Also $sumln$ is an infimum to $sunln$.
$endgroup$
– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
Absolute convergence of the product doesn't mean $prod_n |frac11+a_n|$ converges in $BbbC^*$ but that $prod_n frac11+a_n$ converges in $BbbC^*$ independently of the ordering. For this we look at the convergence of $sum_n f(a_n)$ with $f(x) = ln(1+|x|)$ or $f(x) = |x|$ with just a subtlety if $a_n=-1$ for some $n$
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– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:11
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@reuns, yes it does. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_convergence
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– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:17
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If we define $$S=prod_n=1^inftyleft|1over 1+a_nright|$$then we have $$ln S=sum_n=1^inftyln left|1over 1+a_nright|$$Since boundedness of $S>0$ is equivalent to the boundedness of $ln S$, then any criteria on the absolute convergence of product of $mathbfleft1over 1+a_nright$ is equivalent to that for the convergence of the sum of $mathbflnleft$.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
I'd say $sum ln frac11+$ instead otherwise you'll have some trouble with $a_n=-2$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:02
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@reuns suppose it is given that $sum ln frac 1 a_n$ is convergent. Does that imply $sum ln frac 1 1+a_n$ is also convergent?
$endgroup$
– math maniac.
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
If $a_n=-2$ constantly, then by substitution $S=1$, but the product (itself, not the absolute value) oscillates between $-1$ and $1$, i.e. despite absolute convergence, the product doesn't converge to any real number (an odd thing!). Also $sumln$ is an infimum to $sunln$.
$endgroup$
– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
Absolute convergence of the product doesn't mean $prod_n |frac11+a_n|$ converges in $BbbC^*$ but that $prod_n frac11+a_n$ converges in $BbbC^*$ independently of the ordering. For this we look at the convergence of $sum_n f(a_n)$ with $f(x) = ln(1+|x|)$ or $f(x) = |x|$ with just a subtlety if $a_n=-1$ for some $n$
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– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:11
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@reuns, yes it does. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_convergence
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– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:17
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If we define $$S=prod_n=1^inftyleft|1over 1+a_nright|$$then we have $$ln S=sum_n=1^inftyln left|1over 1+a_nright|$$Since boundedness of $S>0$ is equivalent to the boundedness of $ln S$, then any criteria on the absolute convergence of product of $mathbfleft1over 1+a_nright$ is equivalent to that for the convergence of the sum of $mathbflnleft$.
$endgroup$
If we define $$S=prod_n=1^inftyleft|1over 1+a_nright|$$then we have $$ln S=sum_n=1^inftyln left|1over 1+a_nright|$$Since boundedness of $S>0$ is equivalent to the boundedness of $ln S$, then any criteria on the absolute convergence of product of $mathbfleft1over 1+a_nright$ is equivalent to that for the convergence of the sum of $mathbflnleft$.
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answered Mar 23 at 6:54
Mostafa AyazMostafa Ayaz
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I'd say $sum ln frac11+$ instead otherwise you'll have some trouble with $a_n=-2$
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– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:02
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@reuns suppose it is given that $sum ln frac 1 a_n$ is convergent. Does that imply $sum ln frac 1 1+a_n$ is also convergent?
$endgroup$
– math maniac.
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
If $a_n=-2$ constantly, then by substitution $S=1$, but the product (itself, not the absolute value) oscillates between $-1$ and $1$, i.e. despite absolute convergence, the product doesn't converge to any real number (an odd thing!). Also $sumln$ is an infimum to $sunln$.
$endgroup$
– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
Absolute convergence of the product doesn't mean $prod_n |frac11+a_n|$ converges in $BbbC^*$ but that $prod_n frac11+a_n$ converges in $BbbC^*$ independently of the ordering. For this we look at the convergence of $sum_n f(a_n)$ with $f(x) = ln(1+|x|)$ or $f(x) = |x|$ with just a subtlety if $a_n=-1$ for some $n$
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– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:11
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@reuns, yes it does. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_convergence
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– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:17
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show 8 more comments
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I'd say $sum ln frac11+$ instead otherwise you'll have some trouble with $a_n=-2$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:02
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@reuns suppose it is given that $sum ln frac 1 a_n$ is convergent. Does that imply $sum ln frac 1 1+a_n$ is also convergent?
$endgroup$
– math maniac.
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
If $a_n=-2$ constantly, then by substitution $S=1$, but the product (itself, not the absolute value) oscillates between $-1$ and $1$, i.e. despite absolute convergence, the product doesn't converge to any real number (an odd thing!). Also $sumln$ is an infimum to $sunln$.
$endgroup$
– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
Absolute convergence of the product doesn't mean $prod_n |frac11+a_n|$ converges in $BbbC^*$ but that $prod_n frac11+a_n$ converges in $BbbC^*$ independently of the ordering. For this we look at the convergence of $sum_n f(a_n)$ with $f(x) = ln(1+|x|)$ or $f(x) = |x|$ with just a subtlety if $a_n=-1$ for some $n$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:11
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@reuns, yes it does. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_convergence
$endgroup$
– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:17
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I'd say $sum ln frac11+$ instead otherwise you'll have some trouble with $a_n=-2$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:02
$begingroup$
I'd say $sum ln frac11+$ instead otherwise you'll have some trouble with $a_n=-2$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:02
$begingroup$
@reuns suppose it is given that $sum ln frac 1 a_n$ is convergent. Does that imply $sum ln frac 1 1+a_n$ is also convergent?
$endgroup$
– math maniac.
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
@reuns suppose it is given that $sum ln frac 1 a_n$ is convergent. Does that imply $sum ln frac 1 1+a_n$ is also convergent?
$endgroup$
– math maniac.
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
If $a_n=-2$ constantly, then by substitution $S=1$, but the product (itself, not the absolute value) oscillates between $-1$ and $1$, i.e. despite absolute convergence, the product doesn't converge to any real number (an odd thing!). Also $sumln$ is an infimum to $sunln$.
$endgroup$
– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
If $a_n=-2$ constantly, then by substitution $S=1$, but the product (itself, not the absolute value) oscillates between $-1$ and $1$, i.e. despite absolute convergence, the product doesn't converge to any real number (an odd thing!). Also $sumln$ is an infimum to $sunln$.
$endgroup$
– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:08
$begingroup$
Absolute convergence of the product doesn't mean $prod_n |frac11+a_n|$ converges in $BbbC^*$ but that $prod_n frac11+a_n$ converges in $BbbC^*$ independently of the ordering. For this we look at the convergence of $sum_n f(a_n)$ with $f(x) = ln(1+|x|)$ or $f(x) = |x|$ with just a subtlety if $a_n=-1$ for some $n$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:11
$begingroup$
Absolute convergence of the product doesn't mean $prod_n |frac11+a_n|$ converges in $BbbC^*$ but that $prod_n frac11+a_n$ converges in $BbbC^*$ independently of the ordering. For this we look at the convergence of $sum_n f(a_n)$ with $f(x) = ln(1+|x|)$ or $f(x) = |x|$ with just a subtlety if $a_n=-1$ for some $n$
$endgroup$
– reuns
Mar 23 at 7:11
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@reuns, yes it does. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_convergence
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– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:17
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@reuns, yes it does. Check out en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Absolute_convergence
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– Mostafa Ayaz
Mar 23 at 7:17
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