Proving $left|beginsmallmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endsmallmatrixright|=(b-a)(c-b)(c-a)(a+b+c)$Why is $left( beginsmallmatrix x & y \ y & t \ endsmallmatrix right)$ orthogonally similar to this?Finding $B,C$ such that $Bleft[beginsmallmatrix1&2\4&8endsmallmatrixright]C=left[beginsmallmatrix1&0\0&0endsmallmatrixright]$Minimal polynomial of $A := left(beginsmallmatrix 7 & -2 & 1 \ -2 & 10 & -2 \ 1 & -2 & 7 endsmallmatrixright)$Solve for A. $Bigl[beginsmallmatrix9&9\-9&0endsmallmatrixBigr]=4A-Bigl[beginsmallmatrix2&-2\0&2endsmallmatrixBigr]A$$beginvmatrix 1 & a &bc \ 1& b & ac\ 1&c & ab endvmatrix=beginvmatrix 1 & a &a^2 \ 1& b&b^2 \ 1& b & c^2 endvmatrix$Calculate the determinant $left|beginsmallmatrix a&b&c&d\ b&a&d&c\ c&d&a&b\d&c&b&aendsmallmatrixright|$Prove $left|beginsmallmatrix sin^2x&cot x&1\ sin^2y&cot y&1\ sin^2z&cot z&1 endsmallmatrixright|=0$ if $x+y+z=pi$Prove that $beginvmatrix xa&yb&zc\ yc&za&xb\ zb&xc&ya\ endvmatrix=xyzbeginvmatrix a&b&c\ c&a&b\ b&c&a\ endvmatrix$ if $x+y+z=0$Without expanding, show that $left| beginsmallmatrix 3&4&5 \ 15&21&26 \ 21&29&36 \ endsmallmatrixright|=0$Showing $P^TP=I_n-frac1n11^T$ if $left(beginsmallmatrixfrac1sqrt n&cdots&frac1sqrt n\&Pendsmallmatrixright)$ is orthogonal
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Proving $left|beginsmallmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endsmallmatrixright|=(b-a)(c-b)(c-a)(a+b+c)$
Why is $left( beginsmallmatrix x & y \ y & t \ endsmallmatrix right)$ orthogonally similar to this?Finding $B,C$ such that $Bleft[beginsmallmatrix1&2\4&8endsmallmatrixright]C=left[beginsmallmatrix1&0\0&0endsmallmatrixright]$Minimal polynomial of $A := left(beginsmallmatrix 7 & -2 & 1 \ -2 & 10 & -2 \ 1 & -2 & 7 endsmallmatrixright)$Solve for A. $Bigl[beginsmallmatrix9&9\-9&0endsmallmatrixBigr]=4A-Bigl[beginsmallmatrix2&-2\0&2endsmallmatrixBigr]A$$beginvmatrix 1 & a &bc \ 1& b & ac\ 1&c & ab endvmatrix=beginvmatrix 1 & a &a^2 \ 1& b&b^2 \ 1& b & c^2 endvmatrix$Calculate the determinant $left|beginsmallmatrix a&b&c&d\ b&a&d&c\ c&d&a&b\d&c&b&aendsmallmatrixright|$Prove $left|beginsmallmatrix sin^2x&cot x&1\ sin^2y&cot y&1\ sin^2z&cot z&1 endsmallmatrixright|=0$ if $x+y+z=pi$Prove that $beginvmatrix xa&yb&zc\ yc&za&xb\ zb&xc&ya\ endvmatrix=xyzbeginvmatrix a&b&c\ c&a&b\ b&c&a\ endvmatrix$ if $x+y+z=0$Without expanding, show that $left| beginsmallmatrix 3&4&5 \ 15&21&26 \ 21&29&36 \ endsmallmatrixright|=0$Showing $P^TP=I_n-frac1n11^T$ if $left(beginsmallmatrixfrac1sqrt n&cdots&frac1sqrt n\&Pendsmallmatrixright)$ is orthogonal
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Prove that$$beginvmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endvmatrix=(b-a)(c-b)(c-a)(a+b+c)$$
My attempt:
$$beginalignbeginvmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endvmatrix&=beginvmatrix0&1&0\a-b&b&c-b\a^3-b^3&b^3&c^3-b^3endvmatrix\&=beginvmatrixc-b&a-b\c^3-b^3&a^3-b^3endvmatrix\&=(c-b)(a-b)beginvmatrix1&1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2endvmatrix\&=(c-b)(a-b)[(a^2+ab)-(c^2+cb)]\endalign$$
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Prove that$$beginvmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endvmatrix=(b-a)(c-b)(c-a)(a+b+c)$$
My attempt:
$$beginalignbeginvmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endvmatrix&=beginvmatrix0&1&0\a-b&b&c-b\a^3-b^3&b^3&c^3-b^3endvmatrix\&=beginvmatrixc-b&a-b\c^3-b^3&a^3-b^3endvmatrix\&=(c-b)(a-b)beginvmatrix1&1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2endvmatrix\&=(c-b)(a-b)[(a^2+ab)-(c^2+cb)]\endalign$$
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Prove that$$beginvmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endvmatrix=(b-a)(c-b)(c-a)(a+b+c)$$
My attempt:
$$beginalignbeginvmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endvmatrix&=beginvmatrix0&1&0\a-b&b&c-b\a^3-b^3&b^3&c^3-b^3endvmatrix\&=beginvmatrixc-b&a-b\c^3-b^3&a^3-b^3endvmatrix\&=(c-b)(a-b)beginvmatrix1&1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2endvmatrix\&=(c-b)(a-b)[(a^2+ab)-(c^2+cb)]\endalign$$
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Prove that$$beginvmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endvmatrix=(b-a)(c-b)(c-a)(a+b+c)$$
My attempt:
$$beginalignbeginvmatrix1&1&1\a&b&c\a^3&b^3&c^3endvmatrix&=beginvmatrix0&1&0\a-b&b&c-b\a^3-b^3&b^3&c^3-b^3endvmatrix\&=beginvmatrixc-b&a-b\c^3-b^3&a^3-b^3endvmatrix\&=(c-b)(a-b)beginvmatrix1&1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2endvmatrix\&=(c-b)(a-b)[(a^2+ab)-(c^2+cb)]\endalign$$
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try manually finding det through the 1st row, then its 8th grade algebra technique.
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Note that $(a^2+ab)-(c^2+cb)=(a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=(a-c)(a+b+c)$
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Given a $4times 4$ Vandermonde matrix
$$
left[beginmatrix
colorred1&colorred1&colorred1&1\colorreda&colorredb&colorredc&d\ a^2&b^2&c^2&colorblued^2\colorreda^3&colorredb^3&colorredc^3&d^3
endmatrixright],
$$ note that the desired determinant is the minor of $d^2$. Considering Laplace expansion, it appears as a minus(-) coefficient of $d^2$ in the Vandermonde determinant
$$beginalign*
&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d-a)(d-b)(d-c)\=&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d^3-colorblue(a+b+c)d^2+cdots).
endalign*$$ Thus we obtain the desired determinant
$$colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)colorblue(a+b+c).
$$
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[+1] very interesting.
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– Jean Marie
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I just gave another way to consider this formula.
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$$beginvmatrix1&1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&1-1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2-(c^2+cb+b^2)endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&0\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2-c^2+b(a-c)endvmatrix$$
$$=a^2-c^2+b(a-c)$$
$$=(a-c)(a+c+b)$$
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You can get it immediately:
$$sum_cyc(a^3c-a^3b)=(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$
because for $a=b$ or $a=c$ or $b=c$ our determinant is equal to zero, which gives
$$K(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$ and it's enough to check the coefficient before $a^3c$, which is $1$, which gives $K=1$.
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Here is a geometrical interpretation of the formula :
$$(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)(a+b+c).tag1$$
I use the term "interpretation" because I have not written here a complete proof but rather an inductive way to obtain (1).
Indeed, if the presence of factors $(a-b), (b-c), (c-a)$ look very natural (the determinant is zero if at has 2 identical columns), this is apparently not the case for factor $(a+b+c)$.
Here is a context giving a natural interpretation to this factor.
Reminder (see Theorem in https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Area_of_Triangle_in_Determinant_Form ) : Let $A,B,C$ be $3$ points in the plane.
$$beginvmatrix1&1&1\x_A&x_B&x_C\y_A&y_B&y_Cendvmatrix=2 times area(ABC)$$
(being understood that, is $A,B,C$ are all different, this determinant is zero iff $A,B,C$ are aligned).
Here, we take points $A,B,C$ on the curve $Gamma$ with equation $y=x^3$. If they are distinct, they are aligned iff their abscissas are such that :
$$x_A+x_B+x_C=0$$
which is rather convincing when one looks at curve $Gamma$ (Fig. 1) :

Fig. 1 : the sum of abscissas of aligned points $A,B,C$ is $-1.5+0.5+1=0$.
Now, the proof : the abscissas of intersection points of :
$$begincasesy&=&x^3\y&=&ax+bendcases $$
verify
$$x^3-underbrace0_S x^2-ax-b=0.$$
The sum of roots $S$ (coefficient of $-x^2$ according to Viète's formulas) is thus zero.
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Wow. Thank you for your comment and [+1] for the unexpected geometric interpretation of the term $a+b+c$!
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1) By inspection : The determinant $= 0$ for $a=b$; $a=c$, and $b=c$ (Why?).
Hence $pm (c-b)$, $pm(a-b)$, and $pm (a-c)$ are factors.
You got $(c-b)(a-b)[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
Hence $pm (a-c)$ is a factor of $[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
$a^2-c^2+b(a-c)=$
$ (a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=$
$(a-c)(a+b+c).$
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Note that $(a^2+ab)-(c^2+cb)=(a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=(a-c)(a+b+c)$
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Note that $(a^2+ab)-(c^2+cb)=(a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=(a-c)(a+b+c)$
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Note that $(a^2+ab)-(c^2+cb)=(a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=(a-c)(a+b+c)$
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Note that $(a^2+ab)-(c^2+cb)=(a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=(a-c)(a+b+c)$
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Given a $4times 4$ Vandermonde matrix
$$
left[beginmatrix
colorred1&colorred1&colorred1&1\colorreda&colorredb&colorredc&d\ a^2&b^2&c^2&colorblued^2\colorreda^3&colorredb^3&colorredc^3&d^3
endmatrixright],
$$ note that the desired determinant is the minor of $d^2$. Considering Laplace expansion, it appears as a minus(-) coefficient of $d^2$ in the Vandermonde determinant
$$beginalign*
&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d-a)(d-b)(d-c)\=&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d^3-colorblue(a+b+c)d^2+cdots).
endalign*$$ Thus we obtain the desired determinant
$$colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)colorblue(a+b+c).
$$
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[+1] very interesting.
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– Jean Marie
Mar 16 at 23:50
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I just gave another way to consider this formula.
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Given a $4times 4$ Vandermonde matrix
$$
left[beginmatrix
colorred1&colorred1&colorred1&1\colorreda&colorredb&colorredc&d\ a^2&b^2&c^2&colorblued^2\colorreda^3&colorredb^3&colorredc^3&d^3
endmatrixright],
$$ note that the desired determinant is the minor of $d^2$. Considering Laplace expansion, it appears as a minus(-) coefficient of $d^2$ in the Vandermonde determinant
$$beginalign*
&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d-a)(d-b)(d-c)\=&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d^3-colorblue(a+b+c)d^2+cdots).
endalign*$$ Thus we obtain the desired determinant
$$colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)colorblue(a+b+c).
$$
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[+1] very interesting.
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– Jean Marie
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I just gave another way to consider this formula.
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Given a $4times 4$ Vandermonde matrix
$$
left[beginmatrix
colorred1&colorred1&colorred1&1\colorreda&colorredb&colorredc&d\ a^2&b^2&c^2&colorblued^2\colorreda^3&colorredb^3&colorredc^3&d^3
endmatrixright],
$$ note that the desired determinant is the minor of $d^2$. Considering Laplace expansion, it appears as a minus(-) coefficient of $d^2$ in the Vandermonde determinant
$$beginalign*
&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d-a)(d-b)(d-c)\=&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d^3-colorblue(a+b+c)d^2+cdots).
endalign*$$ Thus we obtain the desired determinant
$$colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)colorblue(a+b+c).
$$
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Given a $4times 4$ Vandermonde matrix
$$
left[beginmatrix
colorred1&colorred1&colorred1&1\colorreda&colorredb&colorredc&d\ a^2&b^2&c^2&colorblued^2\colorreda^3&colorredb^3&colorredc^3&d^3
endmatrixright],
$$ note that the desired determinant is the minor of $d^2$. Considering Laplace expansion, it appears as a minus(-) coefficient of $d^2$ in the Vandermonde determinant
$$beginalign*
&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d-a)(d-b)(d-c)\=&colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)(d^3-colorblue(a+b+c)d^2+cdots).
endalign*$$ Thus we obtain the desired determinant
$$colorred(b-a)(c-a)(c-b)colorblue(a+b+c).
$$
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[+1] very interesting.
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– Jean Marie
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I just gave another way to consider this formula.
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[+1] very interesting.
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– Jean Marie
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I just gave another way to consider this formula.
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[+1] very interesting.
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– Jean Marie
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[+1] very interesting.
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– Jean Marie
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I just gave another way to consider this formula.
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I just gave another way to consider this formula.
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$$beginvmatrix1&1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&1-1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2-(c^2+cb+b^2)endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&0\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2-c^2+b(a-c)endvmatrix$$
$$=a^2-c^2+b(a-c)$$
$$=(a-c)(a+c+b)$$
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$$beginvmatrix1&1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&1-1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2-(c^2+cb+b^2)endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&0\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2-c^2+b(a-c)endvmatrix$$
$$=a^2-c^2+b(a-c)$$
$$=(a-c)(a+c+b)$$
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$$beginvmatrix1&1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&1-1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2-(c^2+cb+b^2)endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&0\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2-c^2+b(a-c)endvmatrix$$
$$=a^2-c^2+b(a-c)$$
$$=(a-c)(a+c+b)$$
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$$beginvmatrix1&1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&1-1\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2+ab+b^2-(c^2+cb+b^2)endvmatrix$$
$$=beginvmatrix1&0\c^2+cb+b^2&a^2-c^2+b(a-c)endvmatrix$$
$$=a^2-c^2+b(a-c)$$
$$=(a-c)(a+c+b)$$
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You can get it immediately:
$$sum_cyc(a^3c-a^3b)=(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$
because for $a=b$ or $a=c$ or $b=c$ our determinant is equal to zero, which gives
$$K(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$ and it's enough to check the coefficient before $a^3c$, which is $1$, which gives $K=1$.
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You can get it immediately:
$$sum_cyc(a^3c-a^3b)=(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$
because for $a=b$ or $a=c$ or $b=c$ our determinant is equal to zero, which gives
$$K(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$ and it's enough to check the coefficient before $a^3c$, which is $1$, which gives $K=1$.
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You can get it immediately:
$$sum_cyc(a^3c-a^3b)=(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$
because for $a=b$ or $a=c$ or $b=c$ our determinant is equal to zero, which gives
$$K(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$ and it's enough to check the coefficient before $a^3c$, which is $1$, which gives $K=1$.
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You can get it immediately:
$$sum_cyc(a^3c-a^3b)=(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$
because for $a=b$ or $a=c$ or $b=c$ our determinant is equal to zero, which gives
$$K(a+b+c)(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)$$ and it's enough to check the coefficient before $a^3c$, which is $1$, which gives $K=1$.
answered Mar 16 at 8:45
Michael RozenbergMichael Rozenberg
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Here is a geometrical interpretation of the formula :
$$(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)(a+b+c).tag1$$
I use the term "interpretation" because I have not written here a complete proof but rather an inductive way to obtain (1).
Indeed, if the presence of factors $(a-b), (b-c), (c-a)$ look very natural (the determinant is zero if at has 2 identical columns), this is apparently not the case for factor $(a+b+c)$.
Here is a context giving a natural interpretation to this factor.
Reminder (see Theorem in https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Area_of_Triangle_in_Determinant_Form ) : Let $A,B,C$ be $3$ points in the plane.
$$beginvmatrix1&1&1\x_A&x_B&x_C\y_A&y_B&y_Cendvmatrix=2 times area(ABC)$$
(being understood that, is $A,B,C$ are all different, this determinant is zero iff $A,B,C$ are aligned).
Here, we take points $A,B,C$ on the curve $Gamma$ with equation $y=x^3$. If they are distinct, they are aligned iff their abscissas are such that :
$$x_A+x_B+x_C=0$$
which is rather convincing when one looks at curve $Gamma$ (Fig. 1) :

Fig. 1 : the sum of abscissas of aligned points $A,B,C$ is $-1.5+0.5+1=0$.
Now, the proof : the abscissas of intersection points of :
$$begincasesy&=&x^3\y&=&ax+bendcases $$
verify
$$x^3-underbrace0_S x^2-ax-b=0.$$
The sum of roots $S$ (coefficient of $-x^2$ according to Viète's formulas) is thus zero.
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Wow. Thank you for your comment and [+1] for the unexpected geometric interpretation of the term $a+b+c$!
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– Song
Mar 17 at 13:45
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Here is a geometrical interpretation of the formula :
$$(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)(a+b+c).tag1$$
I use the term "interpretation" because I have not written here a complete proof but rather an inductive way to obtain (1).
Indeed, if the presence of factors $(a-b), (b-c), (c-a)$ look very natural (the determinant is zero if at has 2 identical columns), this is apparently not the case for factor $(a+b+c)$.
Here is a context giving a natural interpretation to this factor.
Reminder (see Theorem in https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Area_of_Triangle_in_Determinant_Form ) : Let $A,B,C$ be $3$ points in the plane.
$$beginvmatrix1&1&1\x_A&x_B&x_C\y_A&y_B&y_Cendvmatrix=2 times area(ABC)$$
(being understood that, is $A,B,C$ are all different, this determinant is zero iff $A,B,C$ are aligned).
Here, we take points $A,B,C$ on the curve $Gamma$ with equation $y=x^3$. If they are distinct, they are aligned iff their abscissas are such that :
$$x_A+x_B+x_C=0$$
which is rather convincing when one looks at curve $Gamma$ (Fig. 1) :

Fig. 1 : the sum of abscissas of aligned points $A,B,C$ is $-1.5+0.5+1=0$.
Now, the proof : the abscissas of intersection points of :
$$begincasesy&=&x^3\y&=&ax+bendcases $$
verify
$$x^3-underbrace0_S x^2-ax-b=0.$$
The sum of roots $S$ (coefficient of $-x^2$ according to Viète's formulas) is thus zero.
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Wow. Thank you for your comment and [+1] for the unexpected geometric interpretation of the term $a+b+c$!
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– Song
Mar 17 at 13:45
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Here is a geometrical interpretation of the formula :
$$(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)(a+b+c).tag1$$
I use the term "interpretation" because I have not written here a complete proof but rather an inductive way to obtain (1).
Indeed, if the presence of factors $(a-b), (b-c), (c-a)$ look very natural (the determinant is zero if at has 2 identical columns), this is apparently not the case for factor $(a+b+c)$.
Here is a context giving a natural interpretation to this factor.
Reminder (see Theorem in https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Area_of_Triangle_in_Determinant_Form ) : Let $A,B,C$ be $3$ points in the plane.
$$beginvmatrix1&1&1\x_A&x_B&x_C\y_A&y_B&y_Cendvmatrix=2 times area(ABC)$$
(being understood that, is $A,B,C$ are all different, this determinant is zero iff $A,B,C$ are aligned).
Here, we take points $A,B,C$ on the curve $Gamma$ with equation $y=x^3$. If they are distinct, they are aligned iff their abscissas are such that :
$$x_A+x_B+x_C=0$$
which is rather convincing when one looks at curve $Gamma$ (Fig. 1) :

Fig. 1 : the sum of abscissas of aligned points $A,B,C$ is $-1.5+0.5+1=0$.
Now, the proof : the abscissas of intersection points of :
$$begincasesy&=&x^3\y&=&ax+bendcases $$
verify
$$x^3-underbrace0_S x^2-ax-b=0.$$
The sum of roots $S$ (coefficient of $-x^2$ according to Viète's formulas) is thus zero.
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Here is a geometrical interpretation of the formula :
$$(a-b)(b-c)(c-a)(a+b+c).tag1$$
I use the term "interpretation" because I have not written here a complete proof but rather an inductive way to obtain (1).
Indeed, if the presence of factors $(a-b), (b-c), (c-a)$ look very natural (the determinant is zero if at has 2 identical columns), this is apparently not the case for factor $(a+b+c)$.
Here is a context giving a natural interpretation to this factor.
Reminder (see Theorem in https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Area_of_Triangle_in_Determinant_Form ) : Let $A,B,C$ be $3$ points in the plane.
$$beginvmatrix1&1&1\x_A&x_B&x_C\y_A&y_B&y_Cendvmatrix=2 times area(ABC)$$
(being understood that, is $A,B,C$ are all different, this determinant is zero iff $A,B,C$ are aligned).
Here, we take points $A,B,C$ on the curve $Gamma$ with equation $y=x^3$. If they are distinct, they are aligned iff their abscissas are such that :
$$x_A+x_B+x_C=0$$
which is rather convincing when one looks at curve $Gamma$ (Fig. 1) :

Fig. 1 : the sum of abscissas of aligned points $A,B,C$ is $-1.5+0.5+1=0$.
Now, the proof : the abscissas of intersection points of :
$$begincasesy&=&x^3\y&=&ax+bendcases $$
verify
$$x^3-underbrace0_S x^2-ax-b=0.$$
The sum of roots $S$ (coefficient of $-x^2$ according to Viète's formulas) is thus zero.
edited Mar 17 at 13:33
answered Mar 17 at 10:55
Jean MarieJean Marie
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Wow. Thank you for your comment and [+1] for the unexpected geometric interpretation of the term $a+b+c$!
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– Song
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Wow. Thank you for your comment and [+1] for the unexpected geometric interpretation of the term $a+b+c$!
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– Song
Mar 17 at 13:45
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Wow. Thank you for your comment and [+1] for the unexpected geometric interpretation of the term $a+b+c$!
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– Song
Mar 17 at 13:45
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Wow. Thank you for your comment and [+1] for the unexpected geometric interpretation of the term $a+b+c$!
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– Song
Mar 17 at 13:45
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1) By inspection : The determinant $= 0$ for $a=b$; $a=c$, and $b=c$ (Why?).
Hence $pm (c-b)$, $pm(a-b)$, and $pm (a-c)$ are factors.
You got $(c-b)(a-b)[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
Hence $pm (a-c)$ is a factor of $[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
$a^2-c^2+b(a-c)=$
$ (a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=$
$(a-c)(a+b+c).$
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1) By inspection : The determinant $= 0$ for $a=b$; $a=c$, and $b=c$ (Why?).
Hence $pm (c-b)$, $pm(a-b)$, and $pm (a-c)$ are factors.
You got $(c-b)(a-b)[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
Hence $pm (a-c)$ is a factor of $[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
$a^2-c^2+b(a-c)=$
$ (a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=$
$(a-c)(a+b+c).$
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1) By inspection : The determinant $= 0$ for $a=b$; $a=c$, and $b=c$ (Why?).
Hence $pm (c-b)$, $pm(a-b)$, and $pm (a-c)$ are factors.
You got $(c-b)(a-b)[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
Hence $pm (a-c)$ is a factor of $[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
$a^2-c^2+b(a-c)=$
$ (a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=$
$(a-c)(a+b+c).$
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1) By inspection : The determinant $= 0$ for $a=b$; $a=c$, and $b=c$ (Why?).
Hence $pm (c-b)$, $pm(a-b)$, and $pm (a-c)$ are factors.
You got $(c-b)(a-b)[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
Hence $pm (a-c)$ is a factor of $[a^2+ab -(c^2+cb)]$.
$a^2-c^2+b(a-c)=$
$ (a-c)(a+c)+b(a-c)=$
$(a-c)(a+b+c).$
answered Mar 16 at 10:02
Peter SzilasPeter Szilas
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check out the more general vandermonde determinant that might be useful.
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– Bijayan Ray
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try manually finding det through the 1st row, then its 8th grade algebra technique.
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