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Decomposing a discrete random variablesum of two random variablesProblems getting transformation function from source and destination random variables knowledge when handling the discrete caseCheck if discrete random variables are independentEntropy of sum of two Uniform random variablesProduct of a discrete and absolutely continuous random variableIndependence of two normally distributed random variablesjoint distribution, discrete and continuous random variablesProbability for uniform random variablesCan sum of two continuous random variables be discrete?Two independent random variables













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For two discrete random variables $X$, $Y sim p(x,y)$, can we find another random variable $Z$ independent of $X$, such that there exists a function $f$ satisfying $Y = f(X,Z)$?



I've got the hint that a constructive proof is needed, but I still have no idea about how to do the proof.










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The problem is:



For two discrete random variables $X$, $Y sim p(x,y)$, can we find another random variable $Z$ independent of $X$, such that there exists a function $f$ satisfying $Y = f(X,Z)$?



I've got the hint that a constructive proof is needed, but I still have no idea about how to do the proof.










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The problem is:



For two discrete random variables $X$, $Y sim p(x,y)$, can we find another random variable $Z$ independent of $X$, such that there exists a function $f$ satisfying $Y = f(X,Z)$?



I've got the hint that a constructive proof is needed, but I still have no idea about how to do the proof.










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The problem is:



For two discrete random variables $X$, $Y sim p(x,y)$, can we find another random variable $Z$ independent of $X$, such that there exists a function $f$ satisfying $Y = f(X,Z)$?



I've got the hint that a constructive proof is needed, but I still have no idea about how to do the proof.







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