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How does the binomial expansion of $(1+(1/n))^n$ equal to the partial sum sequence of $(1/n!)$?



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I'm kind of confused, because I'm not sure how this expression
$$
sum_k=0^n fracn!k!(n-k)!n^k
$$
simplifies to $$
sum_k=0^n frac1k!
$$



Could anybody help me out?










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    What you've written doesn't make much sense as the "simplified expression" has $n$ as the index so it goes to $infty$.
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    It does not. Moreover (though it is not the crucial fact), the second sum is $+infty$, because $k$ does not depend on $n$.
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    Aug 20 '16 at 18:05











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    "k" is the index in both expressions, my bad. Just edited it.
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    In the first expression the sum goes up to $n$. In the limit $ntoinfty$ it converges to the second expression. Also each term $n choose k frac1n^k$ converges to $frac1k!$.
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    @sometempname Hold on, how is the limit of the first expression 1/k! ?
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I'm kind of confused, because I'm not sure how this expression
$$
sum_k=0^n fracn!k!(n-k)!n^k
$$
simplifies to $$
sum_k=0^n frac1k!
$$



Could anybody help me out?










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    What you've written doesn't make much sense as the "simplified expression" has $n$ as the index so it goes to $infty$.
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    Aug 20 '16 at 18:05










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    It does not. Moreover (though it is not the crucial fact), the second sum is $+infty$, because $k$ does not depend on $n$.
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    Aug 20 '16 at 18:05











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    "k" is the index in both expressions, my bad. Just edited it.
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    Aug 20 '16 at 18:11











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    In the first expression the sum goes up to $n$. In the limit $ntoinfty$ it converges to the second expression. Also each term $n choose k frac1n^k$ converges to $frac1k!$.
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    @sometempname Hold on, how is the limit of the first expression 1/k! ?
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I'm kind of confused, because I'm not sure how this expression
$$
sum_k=0^n fracn!k!(n-k)!n^k
$$
simplifies to $$
sum_k=0^n frac1k!
$$



Could anybody help me out?










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I'm kind of confused, because I'm not sure how this expression
$$
sum_k=0^n fracn!k!(n-k)!n^k
$$
simplifies to $$
sum_k=0^n frac1k!
$$



Could anybody help me out?







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  • $begingroup$
    What you've written doesn't make much sense as the "simplified expression" has $n$ as the index so it goes to $infty$.
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    It does not. Moreover (though it is not the crucial fact), the second sum is $+infty$, because $k$ does not depend on $n$.
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    – user228113
    Aug 20 '16 at 18:05











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    "k" is the index in both expressions, my bad. Just edited it.
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    – Matt24
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    In the first expression the sum goes up to $n$. In the limit $ntoinfty$ it converges to the second expression. Also each term $n choose k frac1n^k$ converges to $frac1k!$.
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    @sometempname Hold on, how is the limit of the first expression 1/k! ?
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    Aug 20 '16 at 18:25

















  • $begingroup$
    What you've written doesn't make much sense as the "simplified expression" has $n$ as the index so it goes to $infty$.
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    – Klint Qinami
    Aug 20 '16 at 18:05










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    It does not. Moreover (though it is not the crucial fact), the second sum is $+infty$, because $k$ does not depend on $n$.
    $endgroup$
    – user228113
    Aug 20 '16 at 18:05











  • $begingroup$
    "k" is the index in both expressions, my bad. Just edited it.
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    – Matt24
    Aug 20 '16 at 18:11











  • $begingroup$
    In the first expression the sum goes up to $n$. In the limit $ntoinfty$ it converges to the second expression. Also each term $n choose k frac1n^k$ converges to $frac1k!$.
    $endgroup$
    – sometempname
    Aug 20 '16 at 18:15











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    @sometempname Hold on, how is the limit of the first expression 1/k! ?
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    Aug 20 '16 at 18:25
















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What you've written doesn't make much sense as the "simplified expression" has $n$ as the index so it goes to $infty$.
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– Klint Qinami
Aug 20 '16 at 18:05




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What you've written doesn't make much sense as the "simplified expression" has $n$ as the index so it goes to $infty$.
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– Klint Qinami
Aug 20 '16 at 18:05












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It does not. Moreover (though it is not the crucial fact), the second sum is $+infty$, because $k$ does not depend on $n$.
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It does not. Moreover (though it is not the crucial fact), the second sum is $+infty$, because $k$ does not depend on $n$.
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"k" is the index in both expressions, my bad. Just edited it.
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– Matt24
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"k" is the index in both expressions, my bad. Just edited it.
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In the first expression the sum goes up to $n$. In the limit $ntoinfty$ it converges to the second expression. Also each term $n choose k frac1n^k$ converges to $frac1k!$.
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In the first expression the sum goes up to $n$. In the limit $ntoinfty$ it converges to the second expression. Also each term $n choose k frac1n^k$ converges to $frac1k!$.
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@sometempname Hold on, how is the limit of the first expression 1/k! ?
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As Clement C. already noted, the two expressions are not equivalent. Here, we show that, in fact, $left(1+frac1nright)^nle sum_k=0^n frac1k!$ for all $nge 1$. Moreover, we show that as $nto infty$, both terms of interest approach the same value. To that end, we proceed.




First, note that using the binomial theorem, we can write



$$beginalign
left(1+frac1nright)^n&=sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn!n^k(n-k)!\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn(n-1)(n-2)cdots (n-k+1)n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(frac nnright)left(fracn-1nright)left(fracn-2nright)cdots left(fracn-k+1nright)\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(1-frac1nright)left(1-frac2nright)cdots left(1-frack-1nright)tag 1
endalign$$



Second, since all of the parenthetical terms in $(1)$ are less than $1$, we arrive at the first coveted relationship



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 2$$



for all $nge 1$.



Next, note that since all of the terms in the binomial expansion are positive, we have for any integer $0le p<n$



$$left(1+frac1nright)^n ge sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k tag 3$$



Putting $(2)$ and $(3)$ together yields



$$sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k le left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 4$$



Since $left(1+frac1nright)^n$ is monotonically increasing (SEE THIS ANSWER) and bounded above by the convergent series $sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$, its limit exists. Similarly, the sum on the left-hand side of $(4)$ is monotonically increasing in $n$ and bounded above. Therefore, we may take the limit of $(4)$. Proceeding, we find



$$sum_k=0^p frac1k! le lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^inftyfrac1k! tag 5$$



for all $p$. Since the inequality on the left-hand side of $(5)$ is true fo all $p$, we can let $pto infty$ to reveal the coveted result



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$$






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    Wow, thank you too for your reply! It's quite informative, this is definitely going to help me out a lot.
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tl;dr: the two are not equal, but have the same limit when $n$ goes to $infty$.




First: You cannot "simplify the first to get the second." The two expressions are not equal.



Compute the first few terms to check that. I am lazy, so asked a software program to do it for me. The ratio of their first 10 terms (obtained with Mathematica):



 N[Table[(Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n]/Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n]), n, 1, 10] ]



1., 1.11111, 1.125, 1.10933, 1.09177, 1.0779, 1.06745, 1.05943,
1.05312, 1.04802




A plot (ditto)



DiscretePlot[Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n], Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n], n, 1, 100]


enter image description here



However, the two expressions do have the same limit when $ntoinfty$, namely $e$.



For the first, it is trivial based on the series definition of $e$:
$$
sum_k=0^n frac1k! xrightarrow[ntoinfty] sum_k=0^infty frac1k! = e
$$



For the second, observe that by the Binomial theorem
$$
sum_k=0^n fracn!k!(n-k)! frac1n^k
= sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k
= left(1+frac1nright)^n xrightarrow[ntoinfty] e
$$
where the last step is a standard limit (or, for some, this is the definition of $e$).






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    Awesome answer, thanks! I should've realized they weren't equal, what my professor must've said was that their limits were the same (and I didn't keep track of that).
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As Clement C. already noted, the two expressions are not equivalent. Here, we show that, in fact, $left(1+frac1nright)^nle sum_k=0^n frac1k!$ for all $nge 1$. Moreover, we show that as $nto infty$, both terms of interest approach the same value. To that end, we proceed.




First, note that using the binomial theorem, we can write



$$beginalign
left(1+frac1nright)^n&=sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn!n^k(n-k)!\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn(n-1)(n-2)cdots (n-k+1)n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(frac nnright)left(fracn-1nright)left(fracn-2nright)cdots left(fracn-k+1nright)\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(1-frac1nright)left(1-frac2nright)cdots left(1-frack-1nright)tag 1
endalign$$



Second, since all of the parenthetical terms in $(1)$ are less than $1$, we arrive at the first coveted relationship



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 2$$



for all $nge 1$.



Next, note that since all of the terms in the binomial expansion are positive, we have for any integer $0le p<n$



$$left(1+frac1nright)^n ge sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k tag 3$$



Putting $(2)$ and $(3)$ together yields



$$sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k le left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 4$$



Since $left(1+frac1nright)^n$ is monotonically increasing (SEE THIS ANSWER) and bounded above by the convergent series $sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$, its limit exists. Similarly, the sum on the left-hand side of $(4)$ is monotonically increasing in $n$ and bounded above. Therefore, we may take the limit of $(4)$. Proceeding, we find



$$sum_k=0^p frac1k! le lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^inftyfrac1k! tag 5$$



for all $p$. Since the inequality on the left-hand side of $(5)$ is true fo all $p$, we can let $pto infty$ to reveal the coveted result



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$$






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    Wow, thank you too for your reply! It's quite informative, this is definitely going to help me out a lot.
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    Nice answer. $$
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    @ClementC. Thank you! Very much appreciative. -Mark
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As Clement C. already noted, the two expressions are not equivalent. Here, we show that, in fact, $left(1+frac1nright)^nle sum_k=0^n frac1k!$ for all $nge 1$. Moreover, we show that as $nto infty$, both terms of interest approach the same value. To that end, we proceed.




First, note that using the binomial theorem, we can write



$$beginalign
left(1+frac1nright)^n&=sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn!n^k(n-k)!\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn(n-1)(n-2)cdots (n-k+1)n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(frac nnright)left(fracn-1nright)left(fracn-2nright)cdots left(fracn-k+1nright)\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(1-frac1nright)left(1-frac2nright)cdots left(1-frack-1nright)tag 1
endalign$$



Second, since all of the parenthetical terms in $(1)$ are less than $1$, we arrive at the first coveted relationship



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 2$$



for all $nge 1$.



Next, note that since all of the terms in the binomial expansion are positive, we have for any integer $0le p<n$



$$left(1+frac1nright)^n ge sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k tag 3$$



Putting $(2)$ and $(3)$ together yields



$$sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k le left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 4$$



Since $left(1+frac1nright)^n$ is monotonically increasing (SEE THIS ANSWER) and bounded above by the convergent series $sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$, its limit exists. Similarly, the sum on the left-hand side of $(4)$ is monotonically increasing in $n$ and bounded above. Therefore, we may take the limit of $(4)$. Proceeding, we find



$$sum_k=0^p frac1k! le lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^inftyfrac1k! tag 5$$



for all $p$. Since the inequality on the left-hand side of $(5)$ is true fo all $p$, we can let $pto infty$ to reveal the coveted result



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$$






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    Wow, thank you too for your reply! It's quite informative, this is definitely going to help me out a lot.
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    Nice answer. $$
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    @ClementC. Thank you! Very much appreciative. -Mark
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As Clement C. already noted, the two expressions are not equivalent. Here, we show that, in fact, $left(1+frac1nright)^nle sum_k=0^n frac1k!$ for all $nge 1$. Moreover, we show that as $nto infty$, both terms of interest approach the same value. To that end, we proceed.




First, note that using the binomial theorem, we can write



$$beginalign
left(1+frac1nright)^n&=sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn!n^k(n-k)!\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn(n-1)(n-2)cdots (n-k+1)n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(frac nnright)left(fracn-1nright)left(fracn-2nright)cdots left(fracn-k+1nright)\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(1-frac1nright)left(1-frac2nright)cdots left(1-frack-1nright)tag 1
endalign$$



Second, since all of the parenthetical terms in $(1)$ are less than $1$, we arrive at the first coveted relationship



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 2$$



for all $nge 1$.



Next, note that since all of the terms in the binomial expansion are positive, we have for any integer $0le p<n$



$$left(1+frac1nright)^n ge sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k tag 3$$



Putting $(2)$ and $(3)$ together yields



$$sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k le left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 4$$



Since $left(1+frac1nright)^n$ is monotonically increasing (SEE THIS ANSWER) and bounded above by the convergent series $sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$, its limit exists. Similarly, the sum on the left-hand side of $(4)$ is monotonically increasing in $n$ and bounded above. Therefore, we may take the limit of $(4)$. Proceeding, we find



$$sum_k=0^p frac1k! le lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^inftyfrac1k! tag 5$$



for all $p$. Since the inequality on the left-hand side of $(5)$ is true fo all $p$, we can let $pto infty$ to reveal the coveted result



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$$






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As Clement C. already noted, the two expressions are not equivalent. Here, we show that, in fact, $left(1+frac1nright)^nle sum_k=0^n frac1k!$ for all $nge 1$. Moreover, we show that as $nto infty$, both terms of interest approach the same value. To that end, we proceed.




First, note that using the binomial theorem, we can write



$$beginalign
left(1+frac1nright)^n&=sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn!n^k(n-k)!\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!fracn(n-1)(n-2)cdots (n-k+1)n^k\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(frac nnright)left(fracn-1nright)left(fracn-2nright)cdots left(fracn-k+1nright)\\
&=sum_k=0^n frac1k!left(1-frac1nright)left(1-frac2nright)cdots left(1-frack-1nright)tag 1
endalign$$



Second, since all of the parenthetical terms in $(1)$ are less than $1$, we arrive at the first coveted relationship



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 2$$



for all $nge 1$.



Next, note that since all of the terms in the binomial expansion are positive, we have for any integer $0le p<n$



$$left(1+frac1nright)^n ge sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k tag 3$$



Putting $(2)$ and $(3)$ together yields



$$sum_k=0^p binomnkfrac1n^k le left(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^nfrac1k! tag 4$$



Since $left(1+frac1nright)^n$ is monotonically increasing (SEE THIS ANSWER) and bounded above by the convergent series $sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$, its limit exists. Similarly, the sum on the left-hand side of $(4)$ is monotonically increasing in $n$ and bounded above. Therefore, we may take the limit of $(4)$. Proceeding, we find



$$sum_k=0^p frac1k! le lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n le sum_k=0^inftyfrac1k! tag 5$$



for all $p$. Since the inequality on the left-hand side of $(5)$ is true fo all $p$, we can let $pto infty$ to reveal the coveted result



$$bbox[5px,border:2px solid #C0A000]lim_nto inftyleft(1+frac1nright)^n=sum_k=0^infty frac1k!$$







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    Wow, thank you too for your reply! It's quite informative, this is definitely going to help me out a lot.
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    – Matt24
    Aug 21 '16 at 14:43










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    Nice answer. $$
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    – Clement C.
    Aug 21 '16 at 14:54










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    @ClementC. Thank you! Very much appreciative. -Mark
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    – Mark Viola
    Aug 21 '16 at 15:14










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    @Matt24 You're welcome. My pleasure. -Mark
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  • $begingroup$
    Wow, thank you too for your reply! It's quite informative, this is definitely going to help me out a lot.
    $endgroup$
    – Matt24
    Aug 21 '16 at 14:43










  • $begingroup$
    Nice answer. $$
    $endgroup$
    – Clement C.
    Aug 21 '16 at 14:54










  • $begingroup$
    @ClementC. Thank you! Very much appreciative. -Mark
    $endgroup$
    – Mark Viola
    Aug 21 '16 at 15:14










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    @Matt24 You're welcome. My pleasure. -Mark
    $endgroup$
    – Mark Viola
    Aug 21 '16 at 15:15















$begingroup$
Wow, thank you too for your reply! It's quite informative, this is definitely going to help me out a lot.
$endgroup$
– Matt24
Aug 21 '16 at 14:43




$begingroup$
Wow, thank you too for your reply! It's quite informative, this is definitely going to help me out a lot.
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– Matt24
Aug 21 '16 at 14:43












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Nice answer. $$
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– Clement C.
Aug 21 '16 at 14:54




$begingroup$
Nice answer. $$
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– Clement C.
Aug 21 '16 at 14:54












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@ClementC. Thank you! Very much appreciative. -Mark
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– Mark Viola
Aug 21 '16 at 15:14




$begingroup$
@ClementC. Thank you! Very much appreciative. -Mark
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– Mark Viola
Aug 21 '16 at 15:14












$begingroup$
@Matt24 You're welcome. My pleasure. -Mark
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– Mark Viola
Aug 21 '16 at 15:15




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@Matt24 You're welcome. My pleasure. -Mark
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– Mark Viola
Aug 21 '16 at 15:15











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tl;dr: the two are not equal, but have the same limit when $n$ goes to $infty$.




First: You cannot "simplify the first to get the second." The two expressions are not equal.



Compute the first few terms to check that. I am lazy, so asked a software program to do it for me. The ratio of their first 10 terms (obtained with Mathematica):



 N[Table[(Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n]/Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n]), n, 1, 10] ]



1., 1.11111, 1.125, 1.10933, 1.09177, 1.0779, 1.06745, 1.05943,
1.05312, 1.04802




A plot (ditto)



DiscretePlot[Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n], Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n], n, 1, 100]


enter image description here



However, the two expressions do have the same limit when $ntoinfty$, namely $e$.



For the first, it is trivial based on the series definition of $e$:
$$
sum_k=0^n frac1k! xrightarrow[ntoinfty] sum_k=0^infty frac1k! = e
$$



For the second, observe that by the Binomial theorem
$$
sum_k=0^n fracn!k!(n-k)! frac1n^k
= sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k
= left(1+frac1nright)^n xrightarrow[ntoinfty] e
$$
where the last step is a standard limit (or, for some, this is the definition of $e$).






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    Awesome answer, thanks! I should've realized they weren't equal, what my professor must've said was that their limits were the same (and I didn't keep track of that).
    $endgroup$
    – Matt24
    Aug 20 '16 at 19:39










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    Glad I could help!
    $endgroup$
    – Clement C.
    Aug 20 '16 at 19:40










  • $begingroup$
    Nicely written. +1
    $endgroup$
    – Mark Viola
    Aug 20 '16 at 20:39















2












$begingroup$

tl;dr: the two are not equal, but have the same limit when $n$ goes to $infty$.




First: You cannot "simplify the first to get the second." The two expressions are not equal.



Compute the first few terms to check that. I am lazy, so asked a software program to do it for me. The ratio of their first 10 terms (obtained with Mathematica):



 N[Table[(Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n]/Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n]), n, 1, 10] ]



1., 1.11111, 1.125, 1.10933, 1.09177, 1.0779, 1.06745, 1.05943,
1.05312, 1.04802




A plot (ditto)



DiscretePlot[Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n], Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n], n, 1, 100]


enter image description here



However, the two expressions do have the same limit when $ntoinfty$, namely $e$.



For the first, it is trivial based on the series definition of $e$:
$$
sum_k=0^n frac1k! xrightarrow[ntoinfty] sum_k=0^infty frac1k! = e
$$



For the second, observe that by the Binomial theorem
$$
sum_k=0^n fracn!k!(n-k)! frac1n^k
= sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k
= left(1+frac1nright)^n xrightarrow[ntoinfty] e
$$
where the last step is a standard limit (or, for some, this is the definition of $e$).






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  • $begingroup$
    Awesome answer, thanks! I should've realized they weren't equal, what my professor must've said was that their limits were the same (and I didn't keep track of that).
    $endgroup$
    – Matt24
    Aug 20 '16 at 19:39










  • $begingroup$
    Glad I could help!
    $endgroup$
    – Clement C.
    Aug 20 '16 at 19:40










  • $begingroup$
    Nicely written. +1
    $endgroup$
    – Mark Viola
    Aug 20 '16 at 20:39













2












2








2





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tl;dr: the two are not equal, but have the same limit when $n$ goes to $infty$.




First: You cannot "simplify the first to get the second." The two expressions are not equal.



Compute the first few terms to check that. I am lazy, so asked a software program to do it for me. The ratio of their first 10 terms (obtained with Mathematica):



 N[Table[(Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n]/Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n]), n, 1, 10] ]



1., 1.11111, 1.125, 1.10933, 1.09177, 1.0779, 1.06745, 1.05943,
1.05312, 1.04802




A plot (ditto)



DiscretePlot[Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n], Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n], n, 1, 100]


enter image description here



However, the two expressions do have the same limit when $ntoinfty$, namely $e$.



For the first, it is trivial based on the series definition of $e$:
$$
sum_k=0^n frac1k! xrightarrow[ntoinfty] sum_k=0^infty frac1k! = e
$$



For the second, observe that by the Binomial theorem
$$
sum_k=0^n fracn!k!(n-k)! frac1n^k
= sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k
= left(1+frac1nright)^n xrightarrow[ntoinfty] e
$$
where the last step is a standard limit (or, for some, this is the definition of $e$).






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tl;dr: the two are not equal, but have the same limit when $n$ goes to $infty$.




First: You cannot "simplify the first to get the second." The two expressions are not equal.



Compute the first few terms to check that. I am lazy, so asked a software program to do it for me. The ratio of their first 10 terms (obtained with Mathematica):



 N[Table[(Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n]/Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n]), n, 1, 10] ]



1., 1.11111, 1.125, 1.10933, 1.09177, 1.0779, 1.06745, 1.05943,
1.05312, 1.04802




A plot (ditto)



DiscretePlot[Sum[1/(k!), k, 0, n], Sum[n!/(k! (n - k)! n^k), k, 0, n], n, 1, 100]


enter image description here



However, the two expressions do have the same limit when $ntoinfty$, namely $e$.



For the first, it is trivial based on the series definition of $e$:
$$
sum_k=0^n frac1k! xrightarrow[ntoinfty] sum_k=0^infty frac1k! = e
$$



For the second, observe that by the Binomial theorem
$$
sum_k=0^n fracn!k!(n-k)! frac1n^k
= sum_k=0^n binomnkfrac1n^k
= left(1+frac1nright)^n xrightarrow[ntoinfty] e
$$
where the last step is a standard limit (or, for some, this is the definition of $e$).







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answered Aug 20 '16 at 19:16









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  • $begingroup$
    Awesome answer, thanks! I should've realized they weren't equal, what my professor must've said was that their limits were the same (and I didn't keep track of that).
    $endgroup$
    – Matt24
    Aug 20 '16 at 19:39










  • $begingroup$
    Glad I could help!
    $endgroup$
    – Clement C.
    Aug 20 '16 at 19:40










  • $begingroup$
    Nicely written. +1
    $endgroup$
    – Mark Viola
    Aug 20 '16 at 20:39
















  • $begingroup$
    Awesome answer, thanks! I should've realized they weren't equal, what my professor must've said was that their limits were the same (and I didn't keep track of that).
    $endgroup$
    – Matt24
    Aug 20 '16 at 19:39










  • $begingroup$
    Glad I could help!
    $endgroup$
    – Clement C.
    Aug 20 '16 at 19:40










  • $begingroup$
    Nicely written. +1
    $endgroup$
    – Mark Viola
    Aug 20 '16 at 20:39















$begingroup$
Awesome answer, thanks! I should've realized they weren't equal, what my professor must've said was that their limits were the same (and I didn't keep track of that).
$endgroup$
– Matt24
Aug 20 '16 at 19:39




$begingroup$
Awesome answer, thanks! I should've realized they weren't equal, what my professor must've said was that their limits were the same (and I didn't keep track of that).
$endgroup$
– Matt24
Aug 20 '16 at 19:39












$begingroup$
Glad I could help!
$endgroup$
– Clement C.
Aug 20 '16 at 19:40




$begingroup$
Glad I could help!
$endgroup$
– Clement C.
Aug 20 '16 at 19:40












$begingroup$
Nicely written. +1
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– Mark Viola
Aug 20 '16 at 20:39




$begingroup$
Nicely written. +1
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