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Hatcher Exercise 3.2.16



The Next CEO of Stack OverflowWhen do equivariant quasi-isomorphisms of chain complexes induce a quasi isomorphism on the tensor productIn Kunneth Formula for Cohomology, the finitely generated condition is necessary.Proof Critique - Hatcher Exercise 2.2.3Hatcher exercise: 2.1.1Hatcher 2.1.19 exerciseHatcher Exercise 3.1.11Compute Tensor product $Bbb Z[x]/langle x^2rangle otimes Bbb Z[y]/langle y^2rangle$Isomorphism between cohomology rings; known the homology groups are freeHatcher Exercise 1.2.8Hatcher Exercise 3.2.9










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Hatcehr Exercise 3.2.16.



Show that if $X$ and $Y$ are finite CW complexes such that $H^∗(X;mathbb Z)$ and $H^∗(Y;mathbb Z)$
contain no elements of order a power of a given prime $p$, then the same is true for $X×Y$ . [Apply Theorem 3.15 with coefficients in various fields.]




The hint says we can apply




Theorem 3.15. The cross product $H^∗(X;R)⊗_R H^∗(Y;R)→H^∗(X×Y;R)$ is an isomorphism of rings if $X$ and $Y$ are CW complexes and $H^k(Y;R)$ is a finitely generated free $R$-module for all $k$.




Take an element $ain H^∗(X×Y)$ with order $p^n$. I need to produce some elements with orders powers of $p$ in $H^∗(X;mathbb Z)$ and $H^∗(Y;mathbb Z)$.



How can I use his hint? I am thinking about taking $R=mathbb Z_p$ or $operatornameGF(p^n)$ but I don't see the connection to the right solution.










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  • $begingroup$
    By the theorem (with $R=Bbb Z$), we can identify $a$ with $sum_ia_iotimes b_i$..
    $endgroup$
    – Berci
    Mar 19 at 21:36










  • $begingroup$
    If you need more help, if you know all the orders of the $a_i otimes b_i$ you can compute what the order of $Sigma_i a_i otimes b_i$ has to divide by Lagrange's theorem.
    $endgroup$
    – Connor Malin
    Mar 20 at 0:59















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$begingroup$



Hatcehr Exercise 3.2.16.



Show that if $X$ and $Y$ are finite CW complexes such that $H^∗(X;mathbb Z)$ and $H^∗(Y;mathbb Z)$
contain no elements of order a power of a given prime $p$, then the same is true for $X×Y$ . [Apply Theorem 3.15 with coefficients in various fields.]




The hint says we can apply




Theorem 3.15. The cross product $H^∗(X;R)⊗_R H^∗(Y;R)→H^∗(X×Y;R)$ is an isomorphism of rings if $X$ and $Y$ are CW complexes and $H^k(Y;R)$ is a finitely generated free $R$-module for all $k$.




Take an element $ain H^∗(X×Y)$ with order $p^n$. I need to produce some elements with orders powers of $p$ in $H^∗(X;mathbb Z)$ and $H^∗(Y;mathbb Z)$.



How can I use his hint? I am thinking about taking $R=mathbb Z_p$ or $operatornameGF(p^n)$ but I don't see the connection to the right solution.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$











  • $begingroup$
    By the theorem (with $R=Bbb Z$), we can identify $a$ with $sum_ia_iotimes b_i$..
    $endgroup$
    – Berci
    Mar 19 at 21:36










  • $begingroup$
    If you need more help, if you know all the orders of the $a_i otimes b_i$ you can compute what the order of $Sigma_i a_i otimes b_i$ has to divide by Lagrange's theorem.
    $endgroup$
    – Connor Malin
    Mar 20 at 0:59













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$begingroup$



Hatcehr Exercise 3.2.16.



Show that if $X$ and $Y$ are finite CW complexes such that $H^∗(X;mathbb Z)$ and $H^∗(Y;mathbb Z)$
contain no elements of order a power of a given prime $p$, then the same is true for $X×Y$ . [Apply Theorem 3.15 with coefficients in various fields.]




The hint says we can apply




Theorem 3.15. The cross product $H^∗(X;R)⊗_R H^∗(Y;R)→H^∗(X×Y;R)$ is an isomorphism of rings if $X$ and $Y$ are CW complexes and $H^k(Y;R)$ is a finitely generated free $R$-module for all $k$.




Take an element $ain H^∗(X×Y)$ with order $p^n$. I need to produce some elements with orders powers of $p$ in $H^∗(X;mathbb Z)$ and $H^∗(Y;mathbb Z)$.



How can I use his hint? I am thinking about taking $R=mathbb Z_p$ or $operatornameGF(p^n)$ but I don't see the connection to the right solution.










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$





Hatcehr Exercise 3.2.16.



Show that if $X$ and $Y$ are finite CW complexes such that $H^∗(X;mathbb Z)$ and $H^∗(Y;mathbb Z)$
contain no elements of order a power of a given prime $p$, then the same is true for $X×Y$ . [Apply Theorem 3.15 with coefficients in various fields.]




The hint says we can apply




Theorem 3.15. The cross product $H^∗(X;R)⊗_R H^∗(Y;R)→H^∗(X×Y;R)$ is an isomorphism of rings if $X$ and $Y$ are CW complexes and $H^k(Y;R)$ is a finitely generated free $R$-module for all $k$.




Take an element $ain H^∗(X×Y)$ with order $p^n$. I need to produce some elements with orders powers of $p$ in $H^∗(X;mathbb Z)$ and $H^∗(Y;mathbb Z)$.



How can I use his hint? I am thinking about taking $R=mathbb Z_p$ or $operatornameGF(p^n)$ but I don't see the connection to the right solution.







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  • $begingroup$
    By the theorem (with $R=Bbb Z$), we can identify $a$ with $sum_ia_iotimes b_i$..
    $endgroup$
    – Berci
    Mar 19 at 21:36










  • $begingroup$
    If you need more help, if you know all the orders of the $a_i otimes b_i$ you can compute what the order of $Sigma_i a_i otimes b_i$ has to divide by Lagrange's theorem.
    $endgroup$
    – Connor Malin
    Mar 20 at 0:59
















  • $begingroup$
    By the theorem (with $R=Bbb Z$), we can identify $a$ with $sum_ia_iotimes b_i$..
    $endgroup$
    – Berci
    Mar 19 at 21:36










  • $begingroup$
    If you need more help, if you know all the orders of the $a_i otimes b_i$ you can compute what the order of $Sigma_i a_i otimes b_i$ has to divide by Lagrange's theorem.
    $endgroup$
    – Connor Malin
    Mar 20 at 0:59















$begingroup$
By the theorem (with $R=Bbb Z$), we can identify $a$ with $sum_ia_iotimes b_i$..
$endgroup$
– Berci
Mar 19 at 21:36




$begingroup$
By the theorem (with $R=Bbb Z$), we can identify $a$ with $sum_ia_iotimes b_i$..
$endgroup$
– Berci
Mar 19 at 21:36












$begingroup$
If you need more help, if you know all the orders of the $a_i otimes b_i$ you can compute what the order of $Sigma_i a_i otimes b_i$ has to divide by Lagrange's theorem.
$endgroup$
– Connor Malin
Mar 20 at 0:59




$begingroup$
If you need more help, if you know all the orders of the $a_i otimes b_i$ you can compute what the order of $Sigma_i a_i otimes b_i$ has to divide by Lagrange's theorem.
$endgroup$
– Connor Malin
Mar 20 at 0:59










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