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Bijective proof check



The Next CEO of Stack Overflow(Revisited$_2$) Injectivity Relies on The Existence of an Onto Function Mapping Back to Its PreimageProof a function is continous.Examine if function $f:mathbbR^2rightarrow mathbbR^2$ which is defined as $f(x,y)=(2x-y,x-4y)$ is bijective. If bijective, find $f^-1$.Is this function bijective, surjective and injective?Injective and Surjective in composite functionsProve distance function is bijectiveBijective compositions implies each function is bijective.Given $f$ and $g$, prove/disprove whether $g circ f$ is injective/surjectiveLet $X$ a infinite set and $Y$ a finite set. Prove exists a function $f:Xrightarrow Y$ surjective and a function $g:Yrightarrow X$ injective.Let $f:Xrightarrow Y$ and $g:Yrightarrow X$ satisfice $gcirc f=1_x$. Prove $f$ is injective and $g$ is surjective.










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I have been given the problem: "Say $$f:X→Y$$ and $$g:Y→Z$$are functions so that $$g◦f:X→Z$$ is bijective and $f$ is surjective. Can you deduce that $g$ is bijective?



My proof went as follows, I am not sure if this is valid?



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Since $f$ is surjective then for any $yin Y$ there exists and $x in X$ such that $$f(x)=y$$
and $gf$ is bijective so it is surjective and injective so holds for:
$$g(f(x))=z$$for any $x$ and $$gf(x_1)=g(f(x_2)) Rightarrow x_1=x_2$$



Then since we know $gf$ is surjective so $gf(x)=z$, since $f(x)=y$, then $g(y)=z$, so for any $z in Z$ there exists $y in Y$ such that $g(y)=z$, so $g$ is surjective.



Finally we say $$x_1=x_2$$ and call $h=gf$. Since $h$ is injective and surjective $$h(x_1)=h(x_2), g(f(x_1))=g(f(x_2))$$. Since we know that $f$ is surjective so $f(x)=y$ then $g(y_1)=g(y_2)$ so it is injective. Then since we have proven $g$ is both injective and surjective then it is bijective.










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I have been given the problem: "Say $$f:X→Y$$ and $$g:Y→Z$$are functions so that $$g◦f:X→Z$$ is bijective and $f$ is surjective. Can you deduce that $g$ is bijective?



My proof went as follows, I am not sure if this is valid?



$$ $$



Since $f$ is surjective then for any $yin Y$ there exists and $x in X$ such that $$f(x)=y$$
and $gf$ is bijective so it is surjective and injective so holds for:
$$g(f(x))=z$$for any $x$ and $$gf(x_1)=g(f(x_2)) Rightarrow x_1=x_2$$



Then since we know $gf$ is surjective so $gf(x)=z$, since $f(x)=y$, then $g(y)=z$, so for any $z in Z$ there exists $y in Y$ such that $g(y)=z$, so $g$ is surjective.



Finally we say $$x_1=x_2$$ and call $h=gf$. Since $h$ is injective and surjective $$h(x_1)=h(x_2), g(f(x_1))=g(f(x_2))$$. Since we know that $f$ is surjective so $f(x)=y$ then $g(y_1)=g(y_2)$ so it is injective. Then since we have proven $g$ is both injective and surjective then it is bijective.










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I have been given the problem: "Say $$f:X→Y$$ and $$g:Y→Z$$are functions so that $$g◦f:X→Z$$ is bijective and $f$ is surjective. Can you deduce that $g$ is bijective?



My proof went as follows, I am not sure if this is valid?



$$ $$



Since $f$ is surjective then for any $yin Y$ there exists and $x in X$ such that $$f(x)=y$$
and $gf$ is bijective so it is surjective and injective so holds for:
$$g(f(x))=z$$for any $x$ and $$gf(x_1)=g(f(x_2)) Rightarrow x_1=x_2$$



Then since we know $gf$ is surjective so $gf(x)=z$, since $f(x)=y$, then $g(y)=z$, so for any $z in Z$ there exists $y in Y$ such that $g(y)=z$, so $g$ is surjective.



Finally we say $$x_1=x_2$$ and call $h=gf$. Since $h$ is injective and surjective $$h(x_1)=h(x_2), g(f(x_1))=g(f(x_2))$$. Since we know that $f$ is surjective so $f(x)=y$ then $g(y_1)=g(y_2)$ so it is injective. Then since we have proven $g$ is both injective and surjective then it is bijective.










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I have been given the problem: "Say $$f:X→Y$$ and $$g:Y→Z$$are functions so that $$g◦f:X→Z$$ is bijective and $f$ is surjective. Can you deduce that $g$ is bijective?



My proof went as follows, I am not sure if this is valid?



$$ $$



Since $f$ is surjective then for any $yin Y$ there exists and $x in X$ such that $$f(x)=y$$
and $gf$ is bijective so it is surjective and injective so holds for:
$$g(f(x))=z$$for any $x$ and $$gf(x_1)=g(f(x_2)) Rightarrow x_1=x_2$$



Then since we know $gf$ is surjective so $gf(x)=z$, since $f(x)=y$, then $g(y)=z$, so for any $z in Z$ there exists $y in Y$ such that $g(y)=z$, so $g$ is surjective.



Finally we say $$x_1=x_2$$ and call $h=gf$. Since $h$ is injective and surjective $$h(x_1)=h(x_2), g(f(x_1))=g(f(x_2))$$. Since we know that $f$ is surjective so $f(x)=y$ then $g(y_1)=g(y_2)$ so it is injective. Then since we have proven $g$ is both injective and surjective then it is bijective.







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I don't believe you've proven injectivity of $g$. What you need to prove is that if for $y_1, y_2 in Y$ you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$, then you have $y_1 = y_2$.



What you've proven is something weird starting from $x_1 = x_2$, and deduced $f(x_1) = y_1 = y_2 = f(x_2)$ and $gcirc f(x_1) = z_1 = z_2 = g circ f(x_2)$ or something ? Which are obvious since both $f$ and $h$ are pure function, hence must send the same value to the same value regardless of their label in the latin or greek alphabet.



What I would do, though, is use the fact than bijective functions are also inversible. That is, there is a $h^-1$ such that $h circ h^-1(z) = z$ and $h^-1 circ h (x) = x$ (prove it if you don't know that yet). Then if you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$ then you have $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$. I'll let you figure out the proper and complete proof.






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    Hum... if $z_1 = z_2$, then obviously $h^-1(z_1) = h^-1(z_1)$ else $h^-1$ would be a ill-defined function. If the values are the same, then the function must send them to the same image value ! In this case we have $z_1$ to be $g(y_1)$... and likewise $z_2$ is $g(y_2)$. I still believe you can complete the proof on your own.
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You can prove it more easily(I think much more) by using RAA argument. That is, first suppose that gf is not bijective and lead a contradiction from the supposition and the fact that f is a "surjective" "function".






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    I don't believe you've proven injectivity of $g$. What you need to prove is that if for $y_1, y_2 in Y$ you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$, then you have $y_1 = y_2$.



    What you've proven is something weird starting from $x_1 = x_2$, and deduced $f(x_1) = y_1 = y_2 = f(x_2)$ and $gcirc f(x_1) = z_1 = z_2 = g circ f(x_2)$ or something ? Which are obvious since both $f$ and $h$ are pure function, hence must send the same value to the same value regardless of their label in the latin or greek alphabet.



    What I would do, though, is use the fact than bijective functions are also inversible. That is, there is a $h^-1$ such that $h circ h^-1(z) = z$ and $h^-1 circ h (x) = x$ (prove it if you don't know that yet). Then if you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$ then you have $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$. I'll let you figure out the proper and complete proof.






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      How did you get $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$?
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      would you mind completing the proof?
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      Hum... if $z_1 = z_2$, then obviously $h^-1(z_1) = h^-1(z_1)$ else $h^-1$ would be a ill-defined function. If the values are the same, then the function must send them to the same image value ! In this case we have $z_1$ to be $g(y_1)$... and likewise $z_2$ is $g(y_2)$. I still believe you can complete the proof on your own.
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    I don't believe you've proven injectivity of $g$. What you need to prove is that if for $y_1, y_2 in Y$ you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$, then you have $y_1 = y_2$.



    What you've proven is something weird starting from $x_1 = x_2$, and deduced $f(x_1) = y_1 = y_2 = f(x_2)$ and $gcirc f(x_1) = z_1 = z_2 = g circ f(x_2)$ or something ? Which are obvious since both $f$ and $h$ are pure function, hence must send the same value to the same value regardless of their label in the latin or greek alphabet.



    What I would do, though, is use the fact than bijective functions are also inversible. That is, there is a $h^-1$ such that $h circ h^-1(z) = z$ and $h^-1 circ h (x) = x$ (prove it if you don't know that yet). Then if you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$ then you have $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$. I'll let you figure out the proper and complete proof.






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      How did you get $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$?
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      would you mind completing the proof?
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      Hum... if $z_1 = z_2$, then obviously $h^-1(z_1) = h^-1(z_1)$ else $h^-1$ would be a ill-defined function. If the values are the same, then the function must send them to the same image value ! In this case we have $z_1$ to be $g(y_1)$... and likewise $z_2$ is $g(y_2)$. I still believe you can complete the proof on your own.
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    I don't believe you've proven injectivity of $g$. What you need to prove is that if for $y_1, y_2 in Y$ you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$, then you have $y_1 = y_2$.



    What you've proven is something weird starting from $x_1 = x_2$, and deduced $f(x_1) = y_1 = y_2 = f(x_2)$ and $gcirc f(x_1) = z_1 = z_2 = g circ f(x_2)$ or something ? Which are obvious since both $f$ and $h$ are pure function, hence must send the same value to the same value regardless of their label in the latin or greek alphabet.



    What I would do, though, is use the fact than bijective functions are also inversible. That is, there is a $h^-1$ such that $h circ h^-1(z) = z$ and $h^-1 circ h (x) = x$ (prove it if you don't know that yet). Then if you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$ then you have $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$. I'll let you figure out the proper and complete proof.






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    I don't believe you've proven injectivity of $g$. What you need to prove is that if for $y_1, y_2 in Y$ you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$, then you have $y_1 = y_2$.



    What you've proven is something weird starting from $x_1 = x_2$, and deduced $f(x_1) = y_1 = y_2 = f(x_2)$ and $gcirc f(x_1) = z_1 = z_2 = g circ f(x_2)$ or something ? Which are obvious since both $f$ and $h$ are pure function, hence must send the same value to the same value regardless of their label in the latin or greek alphabet.



    What I would do, though, is use the fact than bijective functions are also inversible. That is, there is a $h^-1$ such that $h circ h^-1(z) = z$ and $h^-1 circ h (x) = x$ (prove it if you don't know that yet). Then if you have $g(y_1) = g(y_2)$ then you have $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$. I'll let you figure out the proper and complete proof.







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      Thank you, i will look at it now!
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      How did you get $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$?
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      would you mind completing the proof?
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      Hum... if $z_1 = z_2$, then obviously $h^-1(z_1) = h^-1(z_1)$ else $h^-1$ would be a ill-defined function. If the values are the same, then the function must send them to the same image value ! In this case we have $z_1$ to be $g(y_1)$... and likewise $z_2$ is $g(y_2)$. I still believe you can complete the proof on your own.
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      Thank you, i will look at it now!
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      How did you get $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$?
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      Mar 19 at 21:06










    • $begingroup$
      would you mind completing the proof?
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      Mar 19 at 21:44










    • $begingroup$
      Hum... if $z_1 = z_2$, then obviously $h^-1(z_1) = h^-1(z_1)$ else $h^-1$ would be a ill-defined function. If the values are the same, then the function must send them to the same image value ! In this case we have $z_1$ to be $g(y_1)$... and likewise $z_2$ is $g(y_2)$. I still believe you can complete the proof on your own.
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    Thank you, i will look at it now!
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    Thank you, i will look at it now!
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    How did you get $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$?
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    How did you get $h^-1circ g(y_1) = h^-1circ g(y_2)$?
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    would you mind completing the proof?
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    Hum... if $z_1 = z_2$, then obviously $h^-1(z_1) = h^-1(z_1)$ else $h^-1$ would be a ill-defined function. If the values are the same, then the function must send them to the same image value ! In this case we have $z_1$ to be $g(y_1)$... and likewise $z_2$ is $g(y_2)$. I still believe you can complete the proof on your own.
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    Hum... if $z_1 = z_2$, then obviously $h^-1(z_1) = h^-1(z_1)$ else $h^-1$ would be a ill-defined function. If the values are the same, then the function must send them to the same image value ! In this case we have $z_1$ to be $g(y_1)$... and likewise $z_2$ is $g(y_2)$. I still believe you can complete the proof on your own.
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    You can prove it more easily(I think much more) by using RAA argument. That is, first suppose that gf is not bijective and lead a contradiction from the supposition and the fact that f is a "surjective" "function".






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      You can prove it more easily(I think much more) by using RAA argument. That is, first suppose that gf is not bijective and lead a contradiction from the supposition and the fact that f is a "surjective" "function".






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        You can prove it more easily(I think much more) by using RAA argument. That is, first suppose that gf is not bijective and lead a contradiction from the supposition and the fact that f is a "surjective" "function".






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        You can prove it more easily(I think much more) by using RAA argument. That is, first suppose that gf is not bijective and lead a contradiction from the supposition and the fact that f is a "surjective" "function".







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