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What does the term $c_x$ mean in the theorem of Taylor's remainder?
Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)How to prove the error estimate of the Newton-iteration?Prove Simpson's rule (including error) using the integral remainderestimating the error of $sin(x) = x$ with Taylor's TheoremInterpolation and Taylor's TheoremRemainder of the minimax approximation polynomial - number of extremaFinding an upper bound on the Taylor remainderAccuracy of $e^x$ approximation using remainder of Taylor Series Approximation.approximating second derivative from Taylor's theoremProof by using Taylor's Remainder Term: Truncation Error $=frac(b-a)h^212 maxf''(z)$ for Trapezoidal rule of integrationEvaluate $I = int_0^1 frace^x - 1x dx$ with Taylor Polynomial.
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Theorem (Taylor's remainder) Assume that $f(x)$ has $n+1$ continuous derivatives on an interval $alphaleq xleqbeta$, and let the point $a$ belong to that interval. For the Taylor polynomial $p_n(x)$, let $R_n(x) equiv f(x)-p_n(x)$ denote the remainder or error in approximating $f(x)$ by $p_n(x)$. Then
$$R_n(x) = frac(x-a)^n+1(x+1)!f^(n+1)(c_x),text alphaleq xleqbeta$$
with $c_x$ an unknown point between $a$ and $x$.
Taylor polynomial:
$$p_n(x) = sum_j=0^nfrac(x-a)^jj!f^(j)(a)$$
- Why is there an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem above and what does $c_x$ mean?
- Why do we know that $c_x$ is a point between $a$ and $x$?
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Theorem (Taylor's remainder) Assume that $f(x)$ has $n+1$ continuous derivatives on an interval $alphaleq xleqbeta$, and let the point $a$ belong to that interval. For the Taylor polynomial $p_n(x)$, let $R_n(x) equiv f(x)-p_n(x)$ denote the remainder or error in approximating $f(x)$ by $p_n(x)$. Then
$$R_n(x) = frac(x-a)^n+1(x+1)!f^(n+1)(c_x),text alphaleq xleqbeta$$
with $c_x$ an unknown point between $a$ and $x$.
Taylor polynomial:
$$p_n(x) = sum_j=0^nfrac(x-a)^jj!f^(j)(a)$$
- Why is there an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem above and what does $c_x$ mean?
- Why do we know that $c_x$ is a point between $a$ and $x$?
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You suddenly had an $a$ pop up. Were there no conditions given on $a$?
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– J. M. is a poor mathematician
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"What does it mean" : What does what mean? Also, we are not "using" an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem, it appears as a consequence of using the mean value theorem repeatedly in the proof of Taylor's theorem. Finally, you have not stated what $a$ is, but since the MVT is being used you'd expect unknown points to pop up. The advantage of $c_x$ being between $a$ and $x$ is that any knowledge of $f^(n+1)$ on $[a,x]$ can provide good uniform bounds on the remainder.
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– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Mar 26 at 16:24
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@J.M.isnotamathematician Thank you for the comment! I made a mistake on $alpha$ and $a$. I just edited the question.
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Theorem (Taylor's remainder) Assume that $f(x)$ has $n+1$ continuous derivatives on an interval $alphaleq xleqbeta$, and let the point $a$ belong to that interval. For the Taylor polynomial $p_n(x)$, let $R_n(x) equiv f(x)-p_n(x)$ denote the remainder or error in approximating $f(x)$ by $p_n(x)$. Then
$$R_n(x) = frac(x-a)^n+1(x+1)!f^(n+1)(c_x),text alphaleq xleqbeta$$
with $c_x$ an unknown point between $a$ and $x$.
Taylor polynomial:
$$p_n(x) = sum_j=0^nfrac(x-a)^jj!f^(j)(a)$$
- Why is there an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem above and what does $c_x$ mean?
- Why do we know that $c_x$ is a point between $a$ and $x$?
numerical-methods
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Theorem (Taylor's remainder) Assume that $f(x)$ has $n+1$ continuous derivatives on an interval $alphaleq xleqbeta$, and let the point $a$ belong to that interval. For the Taylor polynomial $p_n(x)$, let $R_n(x) equiv f(x)-p_n(x)$ denote the remainder or error in approximating $f(x)$ by $p_n(x)$. Then
$$R_n(x) = frac(x-a)^n+1(x+1)!f^(n+1)(c_x),text alphaleq xleqbeta$$
with $c_x$ an unknown point between $a$ and $x$.
Taylor polynomial:
$$p_n(x) = sum_j=0^nfrac(x-a)^jj!f^(j)(a)$$
- Why is there an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem above and what does $c_x$ mean?
- Why do we know that $c_x$ is a point between $a$ and $x$?
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You suddenly had an $a$ pop up. Were there no conditions given on $a$?
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– J. M. is a poor mathematician
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"What does it mean" : What does what mean? Also, we are not "using" an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem, it appears as a consequence of using the mean value theorem repeatedly in the proof of Taylor's theorem. Finally, you have not stated what $a$ is, but since the MVT is being used you'd expect unknown points to pop up. The advantage of $c_x$ being between $a$ and $x$ is that any knowledge of $f^(n+1)$ on $[a,x]$ can provide good uniform bounds on the remainder.
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– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Mar 26 at 16:24
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@J.M.isnotamathematician Thank you for the comment! I made a mistake on $alpha$ and $a$. I just edited the question.
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You suddenly had an $a$ pop up. Were there no conditions given on $a$?
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– J. M. is a poor mathematician
Mar 26 at 16:21
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"What does it mean" : What does what mean? Also, we are not "using" an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem, it appears as a consequence of using the mean value theorem repeatedly in the proof of Taylor's theorem. Finally, you have not stated what $a$ is, but since the MVT is being used you'd expect unknown points to pop up. The advantage of $c_x$ being between $a$ and $x$ is that any knowledge of $f^(n+1)$ on $[a,x]$ can provide good uniform bounds on the remainder.
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– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Mar 26 at 16:24
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@J.M.isnotamathematician Thank you for the comment! I made a mistake on $alpha$ and $a$. I just edited the question.
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– Schole
Mar 26 at 16:26
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You suddenly had an $a$ pop up. Were there no conditions given on $a$?
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– J. M. is a poor mathematician
Mar 26 at 16:21
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You suddenly had an $a$ pop up. Were there no conditions given on $a$?
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– J. M. is a poor mathematician
Mar 26 at 16:21
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"What does it mean" : What does what mean? Also, we are not "using" an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem, it appears as a consequence of using the mean value theorem repeatedly in the proof of Taylor's theorem. Finally, you have not stated what $a$ is, but since the MVT is being used you'd expect unknown points to pop up. The advantage of $c_x$ being between $a$ and $x$ is that any knowledge of $f^(n+1)$ on $[a,x]$ can provide good uniform bounds on the remainder.
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– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Mar 26 at 16:24
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"What does it mean" : What does what mean? Also, we are not "using" an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem, it appears as a consequence of using the mean value theorem repeatedly in the proof of Taylor's theorem. Finally, you have not stated what $a$ is, but since the MVT is being used you'd expect unknown points to pop up. The advantage of $c_x$ being between $a$ and $x$ is that any knowledge of $f^(n+1)$ on $[a,x]$ can provide good uniform bounds on the remainder.
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– астон вілла олоф мэллбэрг
Mar 26 at 16:24
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@J.M.isnotamathematician Thank you for the comment! I made a mistake on $alpha$ and $a$. I just edited the question.
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– Schole
Mar 26 at 16:26
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@J.M.isnotamathematician Thank you for the comment! I made a mistake on $alpha$ and $a$. I just edited the question.
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Maybe the best way to see where $c_x$ "comes from", is to do the proof:
Take $x_0=0$ for convenience, suppose $f:mathbb Rto mathbb R$ has (at least) $n+1$ derivatives at $0$ and let $p(x)=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!x^k$ be the Taylor (well, MacLaurin) polynomial for $f$ of dgree $n$.
The idea is that $p$ should be a good approximation to $f$ in some interval $I$ containing $0$. That is, $f(x)-p(x)$ should be small in this interval. We want to see how small it is.
So, fix $bin I$. We will approximate $f(b)$ using $p$. The trick is to choose $K$ so that
$f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, and set $T(x)=f(x)-p(x)-Kx^n+1$.
The first thing to notice is that $T^(k)(0)=0$ for all $0le kle n$. That is, the first $n$ derivatives of $T$ at $0$ are all equal to $0$.
Then, since by construction, $T(b)=f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, we have $T(b)=T(0)=0$ and Rolle's theorem applies to give a $0<c_1<b$ such that $T'(c_1)=0$. But we also have $T'(0)=0$ so Rolle applies again, and we get a $0<c_2<c_1<b$ such that $T''(c_2)=0.$
By now we see what is happening: we are getting a sequence of numbers $0<c_k<c_k-1<b$ with the property that $T^(k)(c_k)=0.$ This process continues until at the $n^th$ step, we get a $0<c_n+1<cdots<b$ such that $T^n+1(c_n+1)=0.$ Then, since $T^n+1(x)=f^n+1(x)-0-K(n+1)!$, we get $0=f^n+1(c_n+1)-0-K(n+1)!$, and therefore
$K=fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!$.
The upshot of all this is that we have now, since $T(b)=0,$
$f(b)=p(b)+fracf^n+1(c_n)(n+1)!b^n=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!b^k+fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!b^n+1.$
So, by getting $K$ in terms of the $(n+1)^th$ derivative of $f$ at a point in $I$, we have found a bound on the error we make by replacing $f$ by $p$. And we also know where $c_n+1$ comes from: it is the last point we get from $n$ repetitions of Rolle's theorem.
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It means that there is some point between $a$ and $x$ for which the equation is true. This is exactly like the unknown point in the mean value theorem. In fact, the mean value theorem is just the $n=0$ case of Taylor's theorem.
The application of this is that if we know bounds on $f^(n+1)$ between $a$ and $x$ then we can use these to get bound on the value of $f(x).$ That is if we know $mleq|f^(n+1)(x)|leq M,$ then we can bound the error in the Taylor polynomial approximation.
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Put another way: there's a point in there somewhere, but we don't really need to know exactly where it is for this theorem.
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Maybe the best way to see where $c_x$ "comes from", is to do the proof:
Take $x_0=0$ for convenience, suppose $f:mathbb Rto mathbb R$ has (at least) $n+1$ derivatives at $0$ and let $p(x)=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!x^k$ be the Taylor (well, MacLaurin) polynomial for $f$ of dgree $n$.
The idea is that $p$ should be a good approximation to $f$ in some interval $I$ containing $0$. That is, $f(x)-p(x)$ should be small in this interval. We want to see how small it is.
So, fix $bin I$. We will approximate $f(b)$ using $p$. The trick is to choose $K$ so that
$f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, and set $T(x)=f(x)-p(x)-Kx^n+1$.
The first thing to notice is that $T^(k)(0)=0$ for all $0le kle n$. That is, the first $n$ derivatives of $T$ at $0$ are all equal to $0$.
Then, since by construction, $T(b)=f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, we have $T(b)=T(0)=0$ and Rolle's theorem applies to give a $0<c_1<b$ such that $T'(c_1)=0$. But we also have $T'(0)=0$ so Rolle applies again, and we get a $0<c_2<c_1<b$ such that $T''(c_2)=0.$
By now we see what is happening: we are getting a sequence of numbers $0<c_k<c_k-1<b$ with the property that $T^(k)(c_k)=0.$ This process continues until at the $n^th$ step, we get a $0<c_n+1<cdots<b$ such that $T^n+1(c_n+1)=0.$ Then, since $T^n+1(x)=f^n+1(x)-0-K(n+1)!$, we get $0=f^n+1(c_n+1)-0-K(n+1)!$, and therefore
$K=fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!$.
The upshot of all this is that we have now, since $T(b)=0,$
$f(b)=p(b)+fracf^n+1(c_n)(n+1)!b^n=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!b^k+fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!b^n+1.$
So, by getting $K$ in terms of the $(n+1)^th$ derivative of $f$ at a point in $I$, we have found a bound on the error we make by replacing $f$ by $p$. And we also know where $c_n+1$ comes from: it is the last point we get from $n$ repetitions of Rolle's theorem.
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Maybe the best way to see where $c_x$ "comes from", is to do the proof:
Take $x_0=0$ for convenience, suppose $f:mathbb Rto mathbb R$ has (at least) $n+1$ derivatives at $0$ and let $p(x)=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!x^k$ be the Taylor (well, MacLaurin) polynomial for $f$ of dgree $n$.
The idea is that $p$ should be a good approximation to $f$ in some interval $I$ containing $0$. That is, $f(x)-p(x)$ should be small in this interval. We want to see how small it is.
So, fix $bin I$. We will approximate $f(b)$ using $p$. The trick is to choose $K$ so that
$f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, and set $T(x)=f(x)-p(x)-Kx^n+1$.
The first thing to notice is that $T^(k)(0)=0$ for all $0le kle n$. That is, the first $n$ derivatives of $T$ at $0$ are all equal to $0$.
Then, since by construction, $T(b)=f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, we have $T(b)=T(0)=0$ and Rolle's theorem applies to give a $0<c_1<b$ such that $T'(c_1)=0$. But we also have $T'(0)=0$ so Rolle applies again, and we get a $0<c_2<c_1<b$ such that $T''(c_2)=0.$
By now we see what is happening: we are getting a sequence of numbers $0<c_k<c_k-1<b$ with the property that $T^(k)(c_k)=0.$ This process continues until at the $n^th$ step, we get a $0<c_n+1<cdots<b$ such that $T^n+1(c_n+1)=0.$ Then, since $T^n+1(x)=f^n+1(x)-0-K(n+1)!$, we get $0=f^n+1(c_n+1)-0-K(n+1)!$, and therefore
$K=fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!$.
The upshot of all this is that we have now, since $T(b)=0,$
$f(b)=p(b)+fracf^n+1(c_n)(n+1)!b^n=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!b^k+fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!b^n+1.$
So, by getting $K$ in terms of the $(n+1)^th$ derivative of $f$ at a point in $I$, we have found a bound on the error we make by replacing $f$ by $p$. And we also know where $c_n+1$ comes from: it is the last point we get from $n$ repetitions of Rolle's theorem.
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Maybe the best way to see where $c_x$ "comes from", is to do the proof:
Take $x_0=0$ for convenience, suppose $f:mathbb Rto mathbb R$ has (at least) $n+1$ derivatives at $0$ and let $p(x)=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!x^k$ be the Taylor (well, MacLaurin) polynomial for $f$ of dgree $n$.
The idea is that $p$ should be a good approximation to $f$ in some interval $I$ containing $0$. That is, $f(x)-p(x)$ should be small in this interval. We want to see how small it is.
So, fix $bin I$. We will approximate $f(b)$ using $p$. The trick is to choose $K$ so that
$f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, and set $T(x)=f(x)-p(x)-Kx^n+1$.
The first thing to notice is that $T^(k)(0)=0$ for all $0le kle n$. That is, the first $n$ derivatives of $T$ at $0$ are all equal to $0$.
Then, since by construction, $T(b)=f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, we have $T(b)=T(0)=0$ and Rolle's theorem applies to give a $0<c_1<b$ such that $T'(c_1)=0$. But we also have $T'(0)=0$ so Rolle applies again, and we get a $0<c_2<c_1<b$ such that $T''(c_2)=0.$
By now we see what is happening: we are getting a sequence of numbers $0<c_k<c_k-1<b$ with the property that $T^(k)(c_k)=0.$ This process continues until at the $n^th$ step, we get a $0<c_n+1<cdots<b$ such that $T^n+1(c_n+1)=0.$ Then, since $T^n+1(x)=f^n+1(x)-0-K(n+1)!$, we get $0=f^n+1(c_n+1)-0-K(n+1)!$, and therefore
$K=fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!$.
The upshot of all this is that we have now, since $T(b)=0,$
$f(b)=p(b)+fracf^n+1(c_n)(n+1)!b^n=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!b^k+fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!b^n+1.$
So, by getting $K$ in terms of the $(n+1)^th$ derivative of $f$ at a point in $I$, we have found a bound on the error we make by replacing $f$ by $p$. And we also know where $c_n+1$ comes from: it is the last point we get from $n$ repetitions of Rolle's theorem.
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Maybe the best way to see where $c_x$ "comes from", is to do the proof:
Take $x_0=0$ for convenience, suppose $f:mathbb Rto mathbb R$ has (at least) $n+1$ derivatives at $0$ and let $p(x)=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!x^k$ be the Taylor (well, MacLaurin) polynomial for $f$ of dgree $n$.
The idea is that $p$ should be a good approximation to $f$ in some interval $I$ containing $0$. That is, $f(x)-p(x)$ should be small in this interval. We want to see how small it is.
So, fix $bin I$. We will approximate $f(b)$ using $p$. The trick is to choose $K$ so that
$f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, and set $T(x)=f(x)-p(x)-Kx^n+1$.
The first thing to notice is that $T^(k)(0)=0$ for all $0le kle n$. That is, the first $n$ derivatives of $T$ at $0$ are all equal to $0$.
Then, since by construction, $T(b)=f(b)-p(b)-Kb^n+1=0$, we have $T(b)=T(0)=0$ and Rolle's theorem applies to give a $0<c_1<b$ such that $T'(c_1)=0$. But we also have $T'(0)=0$ so Rolle applies again, and we get a $0<c_2<c_1<b$ such that $T''(c_2)=0.$
By now we see what is happening: we are getting a sequence of numbers $0<c_k<c_k-1<b$ with the property that $T^(k)(c_k)=0.$ This process continues until at the $n^th$ step, we get a $0<c_n+1<cdots<b$ such that $T^n+1(c_n+1)=0.$ Then, since $T^n+1(x)=f^n+1(x)-0-K(n+1)!$, we get $0=f^n+1(c_n+1)-0-K(n+1)!$, and therefore
$K=fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!$.
The upshot of all this is that we have now, since $T(b)=0,$
$f(b)=p(b)+fracf^n+1(c_n)(n+1)!b^n=sum^n_k=0fracf^(k)(0)k!b^k+fracf^n+1(c_n+1)(n+1)!b^n+1.$
So, by getting $K$ in terms of the $(n+1)^th$ derivative of $f$ at a point in $I$, we have found a bound on the error we make by replacing $f$ by $p$. And we also know where $c_n+1$ comes from: it is the last point we get from $n$ repetitions of Rolle's theorem.
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It means that there is some point between $a$ and $x$ for which the equation is true. This is exactly like the unknown point in the mean value theorem. In fact, the mean value theorem is just the $n=0$ case of Taylor's theorem.
The application of this is that if we know bounds on $f^(n+1)$ between $a$ and $x$ then we can use these to get bound on the value of $f(x).$ That is if we know $mleq|f^(n+1)(x)|leq M,$ then we can bound the error in the Taylor polynomial approximation.
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Put another way: there's a point in there somewhere, but we don't really need to know exactly where it is for this theorem.
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It means that there is some point between $a$ and $x$ for which the equation is true. This is exactly like the unknown point in the mean value theorem. In fact, the mean value theorem is just the $n=0$ case of Taylor's theorem.
The application of this is that if we know bounds on $f^(n+1)$ between $a$ and $x$ then we can use these to get bound on the value of $f(x).$ That is if we know $mleq|f^(n+1)(x)|leq M,$ then we can bound the error in the Taylor polynomial approximation.
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Put another way: there's a point in there somewhere, but we don't really need to know exactly where it is for this theorem.
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– J. M. is a poor mathematician
Mar 26 at 16:28
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It means that there is some point between $a$ and $x$ for which the equation is true. This is exactly like the unknown point in the mean value theorem. In fact, the mean value theorem is just the $n=0$ case of Taylor's theorem.
The application of this is that if we know bounds on $f^(n+1)$ between $a$ and $x$ then we can use these to get bound on the value of $f(x).$ That is if we know $mleq|f^(n+1)(x)|leq M,$ then we can bound the error in the Taylor polynomial approximation.
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It means that there is some point between $a$ and $x$ for which the equation is true. This is exactly like the unknown point in the mean value theorem. In fact, the mean value theorem is just the $n=0$ case of Taylor's theorem.
The application of this is that if we know bounds on $f^(n+1)$ between $a$ and $x$ then we can use these to get bound on the value of $f(x).$ That is if we know $mleq|f^(n+1)(x)|leq M,$ then we can bound the error in the Taylor polynomial approximation.
answered Mar 26 at 16:25
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Put another way: there's a point in there somewhere, but we don't really need to know exactly where it is for this theorem.
$endgroup$
– J. M. is a poor mathematician
Mar 26 at 16:28
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
Put another way: there's a point in there somewhere, but we don't really need to know exactly where it is for this theorem.
$endgroup$
– J. M. is a poor mathematician
Mar 26 at 16:28
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$begingroup$
Put another way: there's a point in there somewhere, but we don't really need to know exactly where it is for this theorem.
$endgroup$
– J. M. is a poor mathematician
Mar 26 at 16:28
$begingroup$
Put another way: there's a point in there somewhere, but we don't really need to know exactly where it is for this theorem.
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– J. M. is a poor mathematician
Mar 26 at 16:28
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You suddenly had an $a$ pop up. Were there no conditions given on $a$?
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– J. M. is a poor mathematician
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"What does it mean" : What does what mean? Also, we are not "using" an unknown point $c_x$ in the theorem, it appears as a consequence of using the mean value theorem repeatedly in the proof of Taylor's theorem. Finally, you have not stated what $a$ is, but since the MVT is being used you'd expect unknown points to pop up. The advantage of $c_x$ being between $a$ and $x$ is that any knowledge of $f^(n+1)$ on $[a,x]$ can provide good uniform bounds on the remainder.
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@J.M.isnotamathematician Thank you for the comment! I made a mistake on $alpha$ and $a$. I just edited the question.
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