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Proving $arg(zw)=arg(z)+arg(w)$



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InProving $arg(𝑧𝑤)=arg(𝑧)+arg(𝑤)$?Geometric meaning of $Arg(fracz_1z_2)=2Arg(fracz_3-z_1z_3-z_2)+2pi k$ for $z_i$ on the unit circleLimits involving logarithm and argument in the complex planeThe annulus $A_r,s(z_0)=< s$ is openIs $+$ open or closed?Finding the set of analytic functions whose image is a subset of a given setPrimitive of an analytic function - Proof verificationProve there is no branch of arg $z$ on $0 < z < 1$.How to row reduce a matrix with complex entries?Complex Contour Integral Involving Arg(z)Confusion in complex analysis










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This is my attempt I know this is incomplete or may even be wrong.


Let $θ_1 in arg(z)$ and $θ_2 in arg(w)$. Then, $θ_1+θ_2 in arg(z)+arg(w)$.


Also, $θ_1+θ_2 in arg(zw)$. Is this sufficient for the proof or correct at all? Hope someone could help me out. Thanks.



EDIT: Just to avoid any confusions I will add how $arg z$ is defined.




$arg z=textArg, z+2pi kmid ktext is an integer$










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    @Winther: Presumably because it makes the statement true? (If you define $operatornamearg(z)$ to be the set of all possible arguments of $z$.)
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This is my attempt I know this is incomplete or may even be wrong.


Let $θ_1 in arg(z)$ and $θ_2 in arg(w)$. Then, $θ_1+θ_2 in arg(z)+arg(w)$.


Also, $θ_1+θ_2 in arg(zw)$. Is this sufficient for the proof or correct at all? Hope someone could help me out. Thanks.



EDIT: Just to avoid any confusions I will add how $arg z$ is defined.




$arg z=textArg, z+2pi kmid ktext is an integer$










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This is my attempt I know this is incomplete or may even be wrong.


Let $θ_1 in arg(z)$ and $θ_2 in arg(w)$. Then, $θ_1+θ_2 in arg(z)+arg(w)$.


Also, $θ_1+θ_2 in arg(zw)$. Is this sufficient for the proof or correct at all? Hope someone could help me out. Thanks.



EDIT: Just to avoid any confusions I will add how $arg z$ is defined.




$arg z=textArg, z+2pi kmid ktext is an integer$










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This is my attempt I know this is incomplete or may even be wrong.


Let $θ_1 in arg(z)$ and $θ_2 in arg(w)$. Then, $θ_1+θ_2 in arg(z)+arg(w)$.


Also, $θ_1+θ_2 in arg(zw)$. Is this sufficient for the proof or correct at all? Hope someone could help me out. Thanks.



EDIT: Just to avoid any confusions I will add how $arg z$ is defined.




$arg z=textArg, z+2pi kmid ktext is an integer$







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Let $z=r_1 e^i theta_1$ and $w=r_2 e^i theta_2$, then
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zw=r_1 r_2 e^i (theta_1+theta_2).
$
Hence
$$
arg(z)=theta_1 + 2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
arg(w)=theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
arg(zw)=theta_1+theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ.
$$
There it is: $arg(zw)=arg(z)+arg(w)$.






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    Here's a proof: Let $z=r e^itheta$ and $w=s e^iphi$. Then $$textArg(zw)=textArgleft(rse^ithetae^iphiright)=textArgleft(rse^i(theta+phi)right)=textArg(z)+textArg(w)quad(textmod 2pi),$$
    where $textArg(z)in[0,2pi)$ is the principal argument of $z$.



    However, as Micah commented above, it looks like you're considering sets of all arguments, i.e. to obtain all representations, $$z=re^i(theta + 2pi n)$$ and $$w=se^i(phi+2pi m),$$ where $n,minmathbbZ$.






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      Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
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      I think that fixes it, but I'm sure you will throw another spanner my way @ Did.
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      If arguments are in $[0,2pi)$, try $z=w=-i$. (But I am surprised, do you still think your computations are rigorous?)
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      In that case, $textArg(-i)=3pi/2$, and so $textArg(-i)+textArg(-i)=3piequiv pi$. But $textArg(-itimes-i)=textArg(-1)=pi$. This is correct given arguments in $[0,2pi)$.
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    I'm not sure we can use the $w = e^itheta_w$ here because this is a notation that is partially induced from what he is trying to prove. Here's a proof that doesn't need this.



    So we have $textarg(w) in theta_w$ and $textarg(z) in theta_z$.



    This means $w = |w|(costheta_w+sintheta_w)$ and $z = |z|(costheta_z+sintheta_z)$.



    By multiplication : $wz = |w| |z| ((cos theta_w cos theta_z - sin theta_w sin theta_z) + i (cos theta_w sin theta_z + sin theta_w cos theta_z))$ which happens to be equal to $|w| |z| (cos (theta_w + theta_z) + i sin (theta_w + theta_z)).$



    Hence, noting $wz = x + iy$ and identifying the real and the imaginary part, we have $dfrac x wz = cos (theta_w + theta_z)$ and $dfrac y wz = sin (theta_w + theta_z)$.



    This is the definition of $(theta_w + theta_z)$ belonging to $textarg(wz)$.






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      Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
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      @Did Yes, $-i$ and $-2i$ have the same argument. Draw them on the complex plane. E: Wait, there's another discussion on a comment with same content (by Did) in a different answer. :confused:
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      @Did I added the definition of argz to the question hoping it would resolve any confusions
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    Let $z=r_1 e^i theta_1$ and $w=r_2 e^i theta_2$, then
    $
    zw=r_1 r_2 e^i (theta_1+theta_2).
    $
    Hence
    $$
    arg(z)=theta_1 + 2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
    arg(w)=theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
    arg(zw)=theta_1+theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ.
    $$
    There it is: $arg(zw)=arg(z)+arg(w)$.






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      Let $z=r_1 e^i theta_1$ and $w=r_2 e^i theta_2$, then
      $
      zw=r_1 r_2 e^i (theta_1+theta_2).
      $
      Hence
      $$
      arg(z)=theta_1 + 2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
      arg(w)=theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
      arg(zw)=theta_1+theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ.
      $$
      There it is: $arg(zw)=arg(z)+arg(w)$.






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        Let $z=r_1 e^i theta_1$ and $w=r_2 e^i theta_2$, then
        $
        zw=r_1 r_2 e^i (theta_1+theta_2).
        $
        Hence
        $$
        arg(z)=theta_1 + 2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
        arg(w)=theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
        arg(zw)=theta_1+theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ.
        $$
        There it is: $arg(zw)=arg(z)+arg(w)$.






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        Let $z=r_1 e^i theta_1$ and $w=r_2 e^i theta_2$, then
        $
        zw=r_1 r_2 e^i (theta_1+theta_2).
        $
        Hence
        $$
        arg(z)=theta_1 + 2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
        arg(w)=theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ\
        arg(zw)=theta_1+theta_2+2kpi, kin mathbfZ.
        $$
        There it is: $arg(zw)=arg(z)+arg(w)$.







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            Here's a proof: Let $z=r e^itheta$ and $w=s e^iphi$. Then $$textArg(zw)=textArgleft(rse^ithetae^iphiright)=textArgleft(rse^i(theta+phi)right)=textArg(z)+textArg(w)quad(textmod 2pi),$$
            where $textArg(z)in[0,2pi)$ is the principal argument of $z$.



            However, as Micah commented above, it looks like you're considering sets of all arguments, i.e. to obtain all representations, $$z=re^i(theta + 2pi n)$$ and $$w=se^i(phi+2pi m),$$ where $n,minmathbbZ$.






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              Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
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              I think that fixes it, but I'm sure you will throw another spanner my way @ Did.
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              If arguments are in $[0,2pi)$, try $z=w=-i$. (But I am surprised, do you still think your computations are rigorous?)
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              Sep 9 '14 at 21:34











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              In that case, $textArg(-i)=3pi/2$, and so $textArg(-i)+textArg(-i)=3piequiv pi$. But $textArg(-itimes-i)=textArg(-1)=pi$. This is correct given arguments in $[0,2pi)$.
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              Sorry but this won't do: your answer does state that the usual sum of the arguments is the argument of the sum.
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            Here's a proof: Let $z=r e^itheta$ and $w=s e^iphi$. Then $$textArg(zw)=textArgleft(rse^ithetae^iphiright)=textArgleft(rse^i(theta+phi)right)=textArg(z)+textArg(w)quad(textmod 2pi),$$
            where $textArg(z)in[0,2pi)$ is the principal argument of $z$.



            However, as Micah commented above, it looks like you're considering sets of all arguments, i.e. to obtain all representations, $$z=re^i(theta + 2pi n)$$ and $$w=se^i(phi+2pi m),$$ where $n,minmathbbZ$.






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            • $begingroup$
              Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
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              I think that fixes it, but I'm sure you will throw another spanner my way @ Did.
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              If arguments are in $[0,2pi)$, try $z=w=-i$. (But I am surprised, do you still think your computations are rigorous?)
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              In that case, $textArg(-i)=3pi/2$, and so $textArg(-i)+textArg(-i)=3piequiv pi$. But $textArg(-itimes-i)=textArg(-1)=pi$. This is correct given arguments in $[0,2pi)$.
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              Sorry but this won't do: your answer does state that the usual sum of the arguments is the argument of the sum.
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            Here's a proof: Let $z=r e^itheta$ and $w=s e^iphi$. Then $$textArg(zw)=textArgleft(rse^ithetae^iphiright)=textArgleft(rse^i(theta+phi)right)=textArg(z)+textArg(w)quad(textmod 2pi),$$
            where $textArg(z)in[0,2pi)$ is the principal argument of $z$.



            However, as Micah commented above, it looks like you're considering sets of all arguments, i.e. to obtain all representations, $$z=re^i(theta + 2pi n)$$ and $$w=se^i(phi+2pi m),$$ where $n,minmathbbZ$.






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            Here's a proof: Let $z=r e^itheta$ and $w=s e^iphi$. Then $$textArg(zw)=textArgleft(rse^ithetae^iphiright)=textArgleft(rse^i(theta+phi)right)=textArg(z)+textArg(w)quad(textmod 2pi),$$
            where $textArg(z)in[0,2pi)$ is the principal argument of $z$.



            However, as Micah commented above, it looks like you're considering sets of all arguments, i.e. to obtain all representations, $$z=re^i(theta + 2pi n)$$ and $$w=se^i(phi+2pi m),$$ where $n,minmathbbZ$.







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              Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
              $endgroup$
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              Sep 9 '14 at 21:03










            • $begingroup$
              I think that fixes it, but I'm sure you will throw another spanner my way @ Did.
              $endgroup$
              – Antinous
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:32










            • $begingroup$
              If arguments are in $[0,2pi)$, try $z=w=-i$. (But I am surprised, do you still think your computations are rigorous?)
              $endgroup$
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              Sep 9 '14 at 21:34











            • $begingroup$
              In that case, $textArg(-i)=3pi/2$, and so $textArg(-i)+textArg(-i)=3piequiv pi$. But $textArg(-itimes-i)=textArg(-1)=pi$. This is correct given arguments in $[0,2pi)$.
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              – Antinous
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:39











            • $begingroup$
              Sorry but this won't do: your answer does state that the usual sum of the arguments is the argument of the sum.
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              Sep 9 '14 at 21:41
















            • $begingroup$
              Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
              $endgroup$
              – Did
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:03










            • $begingroup$
              I think that fixes it, but I'm sure you will throw another spanner my way @ Did.
              $endgroup$
              – Antinous
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:32










            • $begingroup$
              If arguments are in $[0,2pi)$, try $z=w=-i$. (But I am surprised, do you still think your computations are rigorous?)
              $endgroup$
              – Did
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:34











            • $begingroup$
              In that case, $textArg(-i)=3pi/2$, and so $textArg(-i)+textArg(-i)=3piequiv pi$. But $textArg(-itimes-i)=textArg(-1)=pi$. This is correct given arguments in $[0,2pi)$.
              $endgroup$
              – Antinous
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:39











            • $begingroup$
              Sorry but this won't do: your answer does state that the usual sum of the arguments is the argument of the sum.
              $endgroup$
              – Did
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:41















            $begingroup$
            Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
            $endgroup$
            – Did
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:03




            $begingroup$
            Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
            $endgroup$
            – Did
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:03












            $begingroup$
            I think that fixes it, but I'm sure you will throw another spanner my way @ Did.
            $endgroup$
            – Antinous
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:32




            $begingroup$
            I think that fixes it, but I'm sure you will throw another spanner my way @ Did.
            $endgroup$
            – Antinous
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:32












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            If arguments are in $[0,2pi)$, try $z=w=-i$. (But I am surprised, do you still think your computations are rigorous?)
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            – Did
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:34





            $begingroup$
            If arguments are in $[0,2pi)$, try $z=w=-i$. (But I am surprised, do you still think your computations are rigorous?)
            $endgroup$
            – Did
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:34













            $begingroup$
            In that case, $textArg(-i)=3pi/2$, and so $textArg(-i)+textArg(-i)=3piequiv pi$. But $textArg(-itimes-i)=textArg(-1)=pi$. This is correct given arguments in $[0,2pi)$.
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            – Antinous
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:39





            $begingroup$
            In that case, $textArg(-i)=3pi/2$, and so $textArg(-i)+textArg(-i)=3piequiv pi$. But $textArg(-itimes-i)=textArg(-1)=pi$. This is correct given arguments in $[0,2pi)$.
            $endgroup$
            – Antinous
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:39













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            Sorry but this won't do: your answer does state that the usual sum of the arguments is the argument of the sum.
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            – Did
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:41




            $begingroup$
            Sorry but this won't do: your answer does state that the usual sum of the arguments is the argument of the sum.
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            – Did
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:41











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            I'm not sure we can use the $w = e^itheta_w$ here because this is a notation that is partially induced from what he is trying to prove. Here's a proof that doesn't need this.



            So we have $textarg(w) in theta_w$ and $textarg(z) in theta_z$.



            This means $w = |w|(costheta_w+sintheta_w)$ and $z = |z|(costheta_z+sintheta_z)$.



            By multiplication : $wz = |w| |z| ((cos theta_w cos theta_z - sin theta_w sin theta_z) + i (cos theta_w sin theta_z + sin theta_w cos theta_z))$ which happens to be equal to $|w| |z| (cos (theta_w + theta_z) + i sin (theta_w + theta_z)).$



            Hence, noting $wz = x + iy$ and identifying the real and the imaginary part, we have $dfrac x wz = cos (theta_w + theta_z)$ and $dfrac y wz = sin (theta_w + theta_z)$.



            This is the definition of $(theta_w + theta_z)$ belonging to $textarg(wz)$.






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            • $begingroup$
              Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
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              – Did
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:02











            • $begingroup$
              @Did Yes, $-i$ and $-2i$ have the same argument. Draw them on the complex plane. E: Wait, there's another discussion on a comment with same content (by Did) in a different answer. :confused:
              $endgroup$
              – kekkonen
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:58







            • 1




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              @Did I added the definition of argz to the question hoping it would resolve any confusions
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:35






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @did Yes it works for sets but not always for principal arguments
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:36






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @Traklonq the sum need not be in [0,2π[ right?
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:39















            0












            $begingroup$

            I'm not sure we can use the $w = e^itheta_w$ here because this is a notation that is partially induced from what he is trying to prove. Here's a proof that doesn't need this.



            So we have $textarg(w) in theta_w$ and $textarg(z) in theta_z$.



            This means $w = |w|(costheta_w+sintheta_w)$ and $z = |z|(costheta_z+sintheta_z)$.



            By multiplication : $wz = |w| |z| ((cos theta_w cos theta_z - sin theta_w sin theta_z) + i (cos theta_w sin theta_z + sin theta_w cos theta_z))$ which happens to be equal to $|w| |z| (cos (theta_w + theta_z) + i sin (theta_w + theta_z)).$



            Hence, noting $wz = x + iy$ and identifying the real and the imaginary part, we have $dfrac x wz = cos (theta_w + theta_z)$ and $dfrac y wz = sin (theta_w + theta_z)$.



            This is the definition of $(theta_w + theta_z)$ belonging to $textarg(wz)$.






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            • $begingroup$
              Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
              $endgroup$
              – Did
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:02











            • $begingroup$
              @Did Yes, $-i$ and $-2i$ have the same argument. Draw them on the complex plane. E: Wait, there's another discussion on a comment with same content (by Did) in a different answer. :confused:
              $endgroup$
              – kekkonen
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:58







            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @Did I added the definition of argz to the question hoping it would resolve any confusions
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:35






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @did Yes it works for sets but not always for principal arguments
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:36






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @Traklonq the sum need not be in [0,2π[ right?
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:39













            0












            0








            0





            $begingroup$

            I'm not sure we can use the $w = e^itheta_w$ here because this is a notation that is partially induced from what he is trying to prove. Here's a proof that doesn't need this.



            So we have $textarg(w) in theta_w$ and $textarg(z) in theta_z$.



            This means $w = |w|(costheta_w+sintheta_w)$ and $z = |z|(costheta_z+sintheta_z)$.



            By multiplication : $wz = |w| |z| ((cos theta_w cos theta_z - sin theta_w sin theta_z) + i (cos theta_w sin theta_z + sin theta_w cos theta_z))$ which happens to be equal to $|w| |z| (cos (theta_w + theta_z) + i sin (theta_w + theta_z)).$



            Hence, noting $wz = x + iy$ and identifying the real and the imaginary part, we have $dfrac x wz = cos (theta_w + theta_z)$ and $dfrac y wz = sin (theta_w + theta_z)$.



            This is the definition of $(theta_w + theta_z)$ belonging to $textarg(wz)$.






            share|cite|improve this answer











            $endgroup$



            I'm not sure we can use the $w = e^itheta_w$ here because this is a notation that is partially induced from what he is trying to prove. Here's a proof that doesn't need this.



            So we have $textarg(w) in theta_w$ and $textarg(z) in theta_z$.



            This means $w = |w|(costheta_w+sintheta_w)$ and $z = |z|(costheta_z+sintheta_z)$.



            By multiplication : $wz = |w| |z| ((cos theta_w cos theta_z - sin theta_w sin theta_z) + i (cos theta_w sin theta_z + sin theta_w cos theta_z))$ which happens to be equal to $|w| |z| (cos (theta_w + theta_z) + i sin (theta_w + theta_z)).$



            Hence, noting $wz = x + iy$ and identifying the real and the imaginary part, we have $dfrac x wz = cos (theta_w + theta_z)$ and $dfrac y wz = sin (theta_w + theta_z)$.



            This is the definition of $(theta_w + theta_z)$ belonging to $textarg(wz)$.







            share|cite|improve this answer














            share|cite|improve this answer



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            answered Sep 9 '14 at 19:50









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            • $begingroup$
              Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
              $endgroup$
              – Did
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:02











            • $begingroup$
              @Did Yes, $-i$ and $-2i$ have the same argument. Draw them on the complex plane. E: Wait, there's another discussion on a comment with same content (by Did) in a different answer. :confused:
              $endgroup$
              – kekkonen
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:58







            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @Did I added the definition of argz to the question hoping it would resolve any confusions
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:35






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @did Yes it works for sets but not always for principal arguments
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:36






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @Traklonq the sum need not be in [0,2π[ right?
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:39
















            • $begingroup$
              Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
              $endgroup$
              – Did
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:02











            • $begingroup$
              @Did Yes, $-i$ and $-2i$ have the same argument. Draw them on the complex plane. E: Wait, there's another discussion on a comment with same content (by Did) in a different answer. :confused:
              $endgroup$
              – kekkonen
              Sep 9 '14 at 21:58







            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @Did I added the definition of argz to the question hoping it would resolve any confusions
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:35






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @did Yes it works for sets but not always for principal arguments
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:36






            • 1




              $begingroup$
              @Traklonq the sum need not be in [0,2π[ right?
              $endgroup$
              – Heisenberg
              Sep 11 '14 at 3:39















            $begingroup$
            Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
            $endgroup$
            – Did
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:02





            $begingroup$
            Since $arg(-1+i)=3pi/4$ and $(-1+i)^2=-2i$, your answer means that $arg(-2i)=3pi/4+3pi/4=3pi/2$? I thought that $arg(-i)$ was equal to $-pi/2$. Please explain.
            $endgroup$
            – Did
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:02













            $begingroup$
            @Did Yes, $-i$ and $-2i$ have the same argument. Draw them on the complex plane. E: Wait, there's another discussion on a comment with same content (by Did) in a different answer. :confused:
            $endgroup$
            – kekkonen
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:58





            $begingroup$
            @Did Yes, $-i$ and $-2i$ have the same argument. Draw them on the complex plane. E: Wait, there's another discussion on a comment with same content (by Did) in a different answer. :confused:
            $endgroup$
            – kekkonen
            Sep 9 '14 at 21:58





            1




            1




            $begingroup$
            @Did I added the definition of argz to the question hoping it would resolve any confusions
            $endgroup$
            – Heisenberg
            Sep 11 '14 at 3:35




            $begingroup$
            @Did I added the definition of argz to the question hoping it would resolve any confusions
            $endgroup$
            – Heisenberg
            Sep 11 '14 at 3:35




            1




            1




            $begingroup$
            @did Yes it works for sets but not always for principal arguments
            $endgroup$
            – Heisenberg
            Sep 11 '14 at 3:36




            $begingroup$
            @did Yes it works for sets but not always for principal arguments
            $endgroup$
            – Heisenberg
            Sep 11 '14 at 3:36




            1




            1




            $begingroup$
            @Traklonq the sum need not be in [0,2π[ right?
            $endgroup$
            – Heisenberg
            Sep 11 '14 at 3:39




            $begingroup$
            @Traklonq the sum need not be in [0,2π[ right?
            $endgroup$
            – Heisenberg
            Sep 11 '14 at 3:39

















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