choose the correct option $1)$ $mathbbR times 1$ $2)$ $mathbbR^2$ The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InChoose the coorect option ?..choose the correct option about topological space $(mathbbZ,T)$?choose the correct option about comparison of three topology?Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is choose the correct optionshow that f is homomorphism?let $X$ be a topological and A be a nonempty subset of X.then choose the correct statementchoose the correct option regarding complete metric spaceChoose the correct option.Id $: mathbbR rightarrow mathbb R$ is the identity mapping then choose the correct statementProperties of dictionary order topology
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choose the correct option $1)$ $mathbbR times 1$ $2)$ $mathbbR^2$
The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InChoose the coorect option ?..choose the correct option about topological space $(mathbbZ,T)$?choose the correct option about comparison of three topology?Let $A$ be the set of all rational $p$ such that $2 < p^2 < 3$.Then $A$ is choose the correct optionshow that f is homomorphism?let $X$ be a topological and A be a nonempty subset of X.then choose the correct statementchoose the correct option regarding complete metric spaceChoose the correct option.Id $: mathbbR rightarrow mathbb R$ is the identity mapping then choose the correct statementProperties of dictionary order topology
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let $A = (0,2) times 1$ . Then A is open in
choose the correct option
$1)$ $mathbbR times 1$
$2)$ $mathbbR^2$
my attempt : i thinks option $1)$ will be false because $(1- epsilon , 1 + epsilon ) notin 1$
so option $2)$ will be correct
is its true ?
any hints/solution will be appreciated
general-topology metric-spaces
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let $A = (0,2) times 1$ . Then A is open in
choose the correct option
$1)$ $mathbbR times 1$
$2)$ $mathbbR^2$
my attempt : i thinks option $1)$ will be false because $(1- epsilon , 1 + epsilon ) notin 1$
so option $2)$ will be correct
is its true ?
any hints/solution will be appreciated
general-topology metric-spaces
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Although I agree that $(1-epsilon,1+epsilon) notin 1$, that is not a correct argument that $A$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$. You could apply that exact same argument to conclude that $mathbb R times 1$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$, which is obviously false.
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let $A = (0,2) times 1$ . Then A is open in
choose the correct option
$1)$ $mathbbR times 1$
$2)$ $mathbbR^2$
my attempt : i thinks option $1)$ will be false because $(1- epsilon , 1 + epsilon ) notin 1$
so option $2)$ will be correct
is its true ?
any hints/solution will be appreciated
general-topology metric-spaces
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let $A = (0,2) times 1$ . Then A is open in
choose the correct option
$1)$ $mathbbR times 1$
$2)$ $mathbbR^2$
my attempt : i thinks option $1)$ will be false because $(1- epsilon , 1 + epsilon ) notin 1$
so option $2)$ will be correct
is its true ?
any hints/solution will be appreciated
general-topology metric-spaces
general-topology metric-spaces
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Although I agree that $(1-epsilon,1+epsilon) notin 1$, that is not a correct argument that $A$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$. You could apply that exact same argument to conclude that $mathbb R times 1$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$, which is obviously false.
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Mar 23 at 17:16
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Although I agree that $(1-epsilon,1+epsilon) notin 1$, that is not a correct argument that $A$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$. You could apply that exact same argument to conclude that $mathbb R times 1$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$, which is obviously false.
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– Lee Mosher
Mar 23 at 17:16
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Although I agree that $(1-epsilon,1+epsilon) notin 1$, that is not a correct argument that $A$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$. You could apply that exact same argument to conclude that $mathbb R times 1$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$, which is obviously false.
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– Lee Mosher
Mar 23 at 17:16
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Although I agree that $(1-epsilon,1+epsilon) notin 1$, that is not a correct argument that $A$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$. You could apply that exact same argument to conclude that $mathbb R times 1$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$, which is obviously false.
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The correct answer is in fact 1) $mathbbR times 1$. Every point $a$ in $A$ has, for some $epsilon >0$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR times 1$, also in $A$. Every point $a$ in $A$ does NOT have, for any positive $epsilon$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR^2$, also in $A$.
Indeed:
For each $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR times 1$ is $B_epsilon = langle y,1rangle; y in [x-epsilon, x+epsilon]$ and for each such $x$ there is an $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
However for $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR^2$ is $B_epsilon = {langle y,zrangle; (y-x)^2+(z-1)^2 le epsilon$ and for each such $x$ there is no such $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
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Very nice explanation!
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– GSofer
Mar 23 at 17:29
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Thank you very much!
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– Mike
Mar 23 at 17:32
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@Mike i mean in $mathbbR^2 $ if i will take $epsilon = 1/3$ then $B_epsilon subset A$
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In questions like these, it is important to understand the topology of the metric spaces you're working with. In the case of products of metric spaces, the question usually refers to the product topology - a set $A$ is open if and only if it is a union of products of open balls from the spaces that define the product.
As you can see, under the product topology, $A$ actually is open in $mathbbRtimes $$1$, since it can be displayed as $A=(0,2)times $$1$, which is a product of two open balls (each is open in its own corresponding metric space).
On the contrary, $A$ is not open in $mathbbR^2$, since it is not a union of open balls in $mathbbR^2$ (there is no open ball around any point of the set).
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Hint: Since both are metric spaces (prove it!), every point $x$ of an open set $U$ must have an open ball $B(x,varepsilon)$ for some $varepsilon > 0$ such that $B(x,varepsilon) subset U$.
How are the open balls in each of these spaces? In which spaces does this property holds true for $A$?
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Hint: prove that $[2,infty)times1$ and $(-infty,0]$ are closed in $mathbbRtimes1$; similarly, $(-infty,0])times1$.
Further hint: you chose the wrong options.
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Perhaps an overkill:
1) $mathbbR×$$1$ $subset mathbbR^2$.
$A subset mathbbR×$$1$ is open in $mathbbR×$$1$
$ iff$ there is a set $O$, open in $mathbbR^2,$ s.t.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$.
Choose $O = (0,2)×(0,2)$ which is open in $mathbbR^2$.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$, and we are done.
2) Let $a =(1,1) in A$.
$B_r(a) not subset A$ for $r>0$, since
$x = (1,1+r/2) in B_r(a)$ but $x not in A$ for $r>0$.
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The correct answer is in fact 1) $mathbbR times 1$. Every point $a$ in $A$ has, for some $epsilon >0$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR times 1$, also in $A$. Every point $a$ in $A$ does NOT have, for any positive $epsilon$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR^2$, also in $A$.
Indeed:
For each $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR times 1$ is $B_epsilon = langle y,1rangle; y in [x-epsilon, x+epsilon]$ and for each such $x$ there is an $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
However for $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR^2$ is $B_epsilon = {langle y,zrangle; (y-x)^2+(z-1)^2 le epsilon$ and for each such $x$ there is no such $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
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Very nice explanation!
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– GSofer
Mar 23 at 17:29
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Thank you very much!
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– Mike
Mar 23 at 17:32
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@Mike i mean in $mathbbR^2 $ if i will take $epsilon = 1/3$ then $B_epsilon subset A$
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Mar 23 at 17:40
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The correct answer is in fact 1) $mathbbR times 1$. Every point $a$ in $A$ has, for some $epsilon >0$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR times 1$, also in $A$. Every point $a$ in $A$ does NOT have, for any positive $epsilon$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR^2$, also in $A$.
Indeed:
For each $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR times 1$ is $B_epsilon = langle y,1rangle; y in [x-epsilon, x+epsilon]$ and for each such $x$ there is an $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
However for $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR^2$ is $B_epsilon = {langle y,zrangle; (y-x)^2+(z-1)^2 le epsilon$ and for each such $x$ there is no such $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
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Very nice explanation!
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– GSofer
Mar 23 at 17:29
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Thank you very much!
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– Mike
Mar 23 at 17:32
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@Mike i mean in $mathbbR^2 $ if i will take $epsilon = 1/3$ then $B_epsilon subset A$
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The correct answer is in fact 1) $mathbbR times 1$. Every point $a$ in $A$ has, for some $epsilon >0$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR times 1$, also in $A$. Every point $a$ in $A$ does NOT have, for any positive $epsilon$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR^2$, also in $A$.
Indeed:
For each $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR times 1$ is $B_epsilon = langle y,1rangle; y in [x-epsilon, x+epsilon]$ and for each such $x$ there is an $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
However for $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR^2$ is $B_epsilon = {langle y,zrangle; (y-x)^2+(z-1)^2 le epsilon$ and for each such $x$ there is no such $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
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The correct answer is in fact 1) $mathbbR times 1$. Every point $a$ in $A$ has, for some $epsilon >0$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR times 1$, also in $A$. Every point $a$ in $A$ does NOT have, for any positive $epsilon$, all points within distance $epsilon$ of $a$ in $mathbbR^2$, also in $A$.
Indeed:
For each $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR times 1$ is $B_epsilon = langle y,1rangle; y in [x-epsilon, x+epsilon]$ and for each such $x$ there is an $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
However for $x in (0,2)$ and $epsilon > 0$ the set of points within distance $epsilon$ of $langle x,1rangle$ in $mathbbR^2$ is $B_epsilon = {langle y,zrangle; (y-x)^2+(z-1)^2 le epsilon$ and for each such $x$ there is no such $epsilon >0$ such that $B_epsilon subset A$.
edited Mar 23 at 17:27
answered Mar 23 at 17:21
MikeMike
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Very nice explanation!
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– GSofer
Mar 23 at 17:29
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Thank you very much!
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– Mike
Mar 23 at 17:32
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@Mike i mean in $mathbbR^2 $ if i will take $epsilon = 1/3$ then $B_epsilon subset A$
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– jasmine
Mar 23 at 17:40
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Very nice explanation!
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– GSofer
Mar 23 at 17:29
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Thank you very much!
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– Mike
Mar 23 at 17:32
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@Mike i mean in $mathbbR^2 $ if i will take $epsilon = 1/3$ then $B_epsilon subset A$
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– jasmine
Mar 23 at 17:40
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Very nice explanation!
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– GSofer
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Very nice explanation!
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– GSofer
Mar 23 at 17:29
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Thank you very much!
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– Mike
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Thank you very much!
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– Mike
Mar 23 at 17:32
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@Mike i mean in $mathbbR^2 $ if i will take $epsilon = 1/3$ then $B_epsilon subset A$
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– jasmine
Mar 23 at 17:40
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@Mike i mean in $mathbbR^2 $ if i will take $epsilon = 1/3$ then $B_epsilon subset A$
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Mar 23 at 17:40
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In questions like these, it is important to understand the topology of the metric spaces you're working with. In the case of products of metric spaces, the question usually refers to the product topology - a set $A$ is open if and only if it is a union of products of open balls from the spaces that define the product.
As you can see, under the product topology, $A$ actually is open in $mathbbRtimes $$1$, since it can be displayed as $A=(0,2)times $$1$, which is a product of two open balls (each is open in its own corresponding metric space).
On the contrary, $A$ is not open in $mathbbR^2$, since it is not a union of open balls in $mathbbR^2$ (there is no open ball around any point of the set).
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In questions like these, it is important to understand the topology of the metric spaces you're working with. In the case of products of metric spaces, the question usually refers to the product topology - a set $A$ is open if and only if it is a union of products of open balls from the spaces that define the product.
As you can see, under the product topology, $A$ actually is open in $mathbbRtimes $$1$, since it can be displayed as $A=(0,2)times $$1$, which is a product of two open balls (each is open in its own corresponding metric space).
On the contrary, $A$ is not open in $mathbbR^2$, since it is not a union of open balls in $mathbbR^2$ (there is no open ball around any point of the set).
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In questions like these, it is important to understand the topology of the metric spaces you're working with. In the case of products of metric spaces, the question usually refers to the product topology - a set $A$ is open if and only if it is a union of products of open balls from the spaces that define the product.
As you can see, under the product topology, $A$ actually is open in $mathbbRtimes $$1$, since it can be displayed as $A=(0,2)times $$1$, which is a product of two open balls (each is open in its own corresponding metric space).
On the contrary, $A$ is not open in $mathbbR^2$, since it is not a union of open balls in $mathbbR^2$ (there is no open ball around any point of the set).
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In questions like these, it is important to understand the topology of the metric spaces you're working with. In the case of products of metric spaces, the question usually refers to the product topology - a set $A$ is open if and only if it is a union of products of open balls from the spaces that define the product.
As you can see, under the product topology, $A$ actually is open in $mathbbRtimes $$1$, since it can be displayed as $A=(0,2)times $$1$, which is a product of two open balls (each is open in its own corresponding metric space).
On the contrary, $A$ is not open in $mathbbR^2$, since it is not a union of open balls in $mathbbR^2$ (there is no open ball around any point of the set).
answered Mar 23 at 17:26
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Hint: Since both are metric spaces (prove it!), every point $x$ of an open set $U$ must have an open ball $B(x,varepsilon)$ for some $varepsilon > 0$ such that $B(x,varepsilon) subset U$.
How are the open balls in each of these spaces? In which spaces does this property holds true for $A$?
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Hint: Since both are metric spaces (prove it!), every point $x$ of an open set $U$ must have an open ball $B(x,varepsilon)$ for some $varepsilon > 0$ such that $B(x,varepsilon) subset U$.
How are the open balls in each of these spaces? In which spaces does this property holds true for $A$?
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Hint: Since both are metric spaces (prove it!), every point $x$ of an open set $U$ must have an open ball $B(x,varepsilon)$ for some $varepsilon > 0$ such that $B(x,varepsilon) subset U$.
How are the open balls in each of these spaces? In which spaces does this property holds true for $A$?
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Hint: Since both are metric spaces (prove it!), every point $x$ of an open set $U$ must have an open ball $B(x,varepsilon)$ for some $varepsilon > 0$ such that $B(x,varepsilon) subset U$.
How are the open balls in each of these spaces? In which spaces does this property holds true for $A$?
answered Mar 23 at 17:22
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Hint: prove that $[2,infty)times1$ and $(-infty,0]$ are closed in $mathbbRtimes1$; similarly, $(-infty,0])times1$.
Further hint: you chose the wrong options.
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Hint: prove that $[2,infty)times1$ and $(-infty,0]$ are closed in $mathbbRtimes1$; similarly, $(-infty,0])times1$.
Further hint: you chose the wrong options.
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Hint: prove that $[2,infty)times1$ and $(-infty,0]$ are closed in $mathbbRtimes1$; similarly, $(-infty,0])times1$.
Further hint: you chose the wrong options.
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Hint: prove that $[2,infty)times1$ and $(-infty,0]$ are closed in $mathbbRtimes1$; similarly, $(-infty,0])times1$.
Further hint: you chose the wrong options.
answered Mar 23 at 17:26
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Perhaps an overkill:
1) $mathbbR×$$1$ $subset mathbbR^2$.
$A subset mathbbR×$$1$ is open in $mathbbR×$$1$
$ iff$ there is a set $O$, open in $mathbbR^2,$ s.t.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$.
Choose $O = (0,2)×(0,2)$ which is open in $mathbbR^2$.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$, and we are done.
2) Let $a =(1,1) in A$.
$B_r(a) not subset A$ for $r>0$, since
$x = (1,1+r/2) in B_r(a)$ but $x not in A$ for $r>0$.
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Perhaps an overkill:
1) $mathbbR×$$1$ $subset mathbbR^2$.
$A subset mathbbR×$$1$ is open in $mathbbR×$$1$
$ iff$ there is a set $O$, open in $mathbbR^2,$ s.t.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$.
Choose $O = (0,2)×(0,2)$ which is open in $mathbbR^2$.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$, and we are done.
2) Let $a =(1,1) in A$.
$B_r(a) not subset A$ for $r>0$, since
$x = (1,1+r/2) in B_r(a)$ but $x not in A$ for $r>0$.
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Perhaps an overkill:
1) $mathbbR×$$1$ $subset mathbbR^2$.
$A subset mathbbR×$$1$ is open in $mathbbR×$$1$
$ iff$ there is a set $O$, open in $mathbbR^2,$ s.t.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$.
Choose $O = (0,2)×(0,2)$ which is open in $mathbbR^2$.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$, and we are done.
2) Let $a =(1,1) in A$.
$B_r(a) not subset A$ for $r>0$, since
$x = (1,1+r/2) in B_r(a)$ but $x not in A$ for $r>0$.
$endgroup$
Perhaps an overkill:
1) $mathbbR×$$1$ $subset mathbbR^2$.
$A subset mathbbR×$$1$ is open in $mathbbR×$$1$
$ iff$ there is a set $O$, open in $mathbbR^2,$ s.t.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$.
Choose $O = (0,2)×(0,2)$ which is open in $mathbbR^2$.
$A= O cap mathbbR×$$1$, and we are done.
2) Let $a =(1,1) in A$.
$B_r(a) not subset A$ for $r>0$, since
$x = (1,1+r/2) in B_r(a)$ but $x not in A$ for $r>0$.
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$begingroup$
Although I agree that $(1-epsilon,1+epsilon) notin 1$, that is not a correct argument that $A$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$. You could apply that exact same argument to conclude that $mathbb R times 1$ is not open in $mathbb R times 1$, which is obviously false.
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– Lee Mosher
Mar 23 at 17:16