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I am currently working on plotting a function and figuring out if its periodic or not. The function is as follows:



$$x_n = betacdot x_n-1+alpha gammacdot mathrmsgn(x_n-3)+alpha(1-gamma)cdot mathrmsgn(x_n-2)$$



I know $beta$ is between $0$ and $1$, $alpha>0$, $gamma>0$. Note that $mathrm sgn$ is the sign function.



I am having a hard time knowing where to start. For example, if I take
$beta=0.5$, $alpha=10$, and $gamma=3$, how would I find my $x_1$, $x_2$, and $x_3$?



For example:



$x_1$$=$$1$



$x_2$$=$$2$



$x_3$$=$$3$



$x_4$ $ = 0.5(3)+30+10(-2)=11.5$



Also I am saying that $sgn(x_1)=1$ since $x_1=1$
and $sgn(x_2)=1$ since $x_2=2$



Would this be the correct way to start plotting?



Now let's say for the three initial values that function is not periodic, would some other three different initial values make it periodic? and if so how would one go about finding those initial values to make it period? (keep guess values)



Lastly, I promise, why would someone come up with this specific function to figure out periodic or non-periodic?



New Edit:



I have been thinking what would happen if we take $0<gamma<1$?
Would it be the same or would it change?
Also, what about taking $alpha<0$?



Should I ask another question or just leave the new Edit.










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    Your question throws up a lot of questions in my mind, but I think I can answer your last question: you can't. This is a recursive definition of a sequence, so you'll need to choose some initial values (two of them). If you nominate some values for $x_1$ and $x_2$, then you can compute $x_3$ from them, then $x_4$, $x_5$, etc. Without specifying initial values, there will typically be infinitely many sequences that satisfy a given recurrence relation.
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    @TheoBendit what about $x_n-3$? Does it not need three initial values? How do i nominate $x_1$ and $x_2$ to compute $x_3$?
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    – Hidaw
    Mar 22 at 17:27







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    Oh, sorry, I missed $x_n-3$. You do indeed need to nominate three initial values.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 23 at 0:09






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    $begingroup$
    Yes, that's how you do it.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 24 at 2:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It's no bother. :-)
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 24 at 17:57















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$begingroup$


I am currently working on plotting a function and figuring out if its periodic or not. The function is as follows:



$$x_n = betacdot x_n-1+alpha gammacdot mathrmsgn(x_n-3)+alpha(1-gamma)cdot mathrmsgn(x_n-2)$$



I know $beta$ is between $0$ and $1$, $alpha>0$, $gamma>0$. Note that $mathrm sgn$ is the sign function.



I am having a hard time knowing where to start. For example, if I take
$beta=0.5$, $alpha=10$, and $gamma=3$, how would I find my $x_1$, $x_2$, and $x_3$?



For example:



$x_1$$=$$1$



$x_2$$=$$2$



$x_3$$=$$3$



$x_4$ $ = 0.5(3)+30+10(-2)=11.5$



Also I am saying that $sgn(x_1)=1$ since $x_1=1$
and $sgn(x_2)=1$ since $x_2=2$



Would this be the correct way to start plotting?



Now let's say for the three initial values that function is not periodic, would some other three different initial values make it periodic? and if so how would one go about finding those initial values to make it period? (keep guess values)



Lastly, I promise, why would someone come up with this specific function to figure out periodic or non-periodic?



New Edit:



I have been thinking what would happen if we take $0<gamma<1$?
Would it be the same or would it change?
Also, what about taking $alpha<0$?



Should I ask another question or just leave the new Edit.










share|cite|improve this question











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  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Your question throws up a lot of questions in my mind, but I think I can answer your last question: you can't. This is a recursive definition of a sequence, so you'll need to choose some initial values (two of them). If you nominate some values for $x_1$ and $x_2$, then you can compute $x_3$ from them, then $x_4$, $x_5$, etc. Without specifying initial values, there will typically be infinitely many sequences that satisfy a given recurrence relation.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 22 at 1:38






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @TheoBendit what about $x_n-3$? Does it not need three initial values? How do i nominate $x_1$ and $x_2$ to compute $x_3$?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 22 at 17:27







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Oh, sorry, I missed $x_n-3$. You do indeed need to nominate three initial values.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 23 at 0:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Yes, that's how you do it.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 24 at 2:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It's no bother. :-)
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 24 at 17:57













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$begingroup$


I am currently working on plotting a function and figuring out if its periodic or not. The function is as follows:



$$x_n = betacdot x_n-1+alpha gammacdot mathrmsgn(x_n-3)+alpha(1-gamma)cdot mathrmsgn(x_n-2)$$



I know $beta$ is between $0$ and $1$, $alpha>0$, $gamma>0$. Note that $mathrm sgn$ is the sign function.



I am having a hard time knowing where to start. For example, if I take
$beta=0.5$, $alpha=10$, and $gamma=3$, how would I find my $x_1$, $x_2$, and $x_3$?



For example:



$x_1$$=$$1$



$x_2$$=$$2$



$x_3$$=$$3$



$x_4$ $ = 0.5(3)+30+10(-2)=11.5$



Also I am saying that $sgn(x_1)=1$ since $x_1=1$
and $sgn(x_2)=1$ since $x_2=2$



Would this be the correct way to start plotting?



Now let's say for the three initial values that function is not periodic, would some other three different initial values make it periodic? and if so how would one go about finding those initial values to make it period? (keep guess values)



Lastly, I promise, why would someone come up with this specific function to figure out periodic or non-periodic?



New Edit:



I have been thinking what would happen if we take $0<gamma<1$?
Would it be the same or would it change?
Also, what about taking $alpha<0$?



Should I ask another question or just leave the new Edit.










share|cite|improve this question











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I am currently working on plotting a function and figuring out if its periodic or not. The function is as follows:



$$x_n = betacdot x_n-1+alpha gammacdot mathrmsgn(x_n-3)+alpha(1-gamma)cdot mathrmsgn(x_n-2)$$



I know $beta$ is between $0$ and $1$, $alpha>0$, $gamma>0$. Note that $mathrm sgn$ is the sign function.



I am having a hard time knowing where to start. For example, if I take
$beta=0.5$, $alpha=10$, and $gamma=3$, how would I find my $x_1$, $x_2$, and $x_3$?



For example:



$x_1$$=$$1$



$x_2$$=$$2$



$x_3$$=$$3$



$x_4$ $ = 0.5(3)+30+10(-2)=11.5$



Also I am saying that $sgn(x_1)=1$ since $x_1=1$
and $sgn(x_2)=1$ since $x_2=2$



Would this be the correct way to start plotting?



Now let's say for the three initial values that function is not periodic, would some other three different initial values make it periodic? and if so how would one go about finding those initial values to make it period? (keep guess values)



Lastly, I promise, why would someone come up with this specific function to figure out periodic or non-periodic?



New Edit:



I have been thinking what would happen if we take $0<gamma<1$?
Would it be the same or would it change?
Also, what about taking $alpha<0$?



Should I ask another question or just leave the new Edit.







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  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Your question throws up a lot of questions in my mind, but I think I can answer your last question: you can't. This is a recursive definition of a sequence, so you'll need to choose some initial values (two of them). If you nominate some values for $x_1$ and $x_2$, then you can compute $x_3$ from them, then $x_4$, $x_5$, etc. Without specifying initial values, there will typically be infinitely many sequences that satisfy a given recurrence relation.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 22 at 1:38






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @TheoBendit what about $x_n-3$? Does it not need three initial values? How do i nominate $x_1$ and $x_2$ to compute $x_3$?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 22 at 17:27







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Oh, sorry, I missed $x_n-3$. You do indeed need to nominate three initial values.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 23 at 0:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Yes, that's how you do it.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 24 at 2:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It's no bother. :-)
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 24 at 17:57












  • 3




    $begingroup$
    Your question throws up a lot of questions in my mind, but I think I can answer your last question: you can't. This is a recursive definition of a sequence, so you'll need to choose some initial values (two of them). If you nominate some values for $x_1$ and $x_2$, then you can compute $x_3$ from them, then $x_4$, $x_5$, etc. Without specifying initial values, there will typically be infinitely many sequences that satisfy a given recurrence relation.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 22 at 1:38






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @TheoBendit what about $x_n-3$? Does it not need three initial values? How do i nominate $x_1$ and $x_2$ to compute $x_3$?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 22 at 17:27







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Oh, sorry, I missed $x_n-3$. You do indeed need to nominate three initial values.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 23 at 0:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    Yes, that's how you do it.
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 24 at 2:40






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    It's no bother. :-)
    $endgroup$
    – Theo Bendit
    Mar 24 at 17:57







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3




$begingroup$
Your question throws up a lot of questions in my mind, but I think I can answer your last question: you can't. This is a recursive definition of a sequence, so you'll need to choose some initial values (two of them). If you nominate some values for $x_1$ and $x_2$, then you can compute $x_3$ from them, then $x_4$, $x_5$, etc. Without specifying initial values, there will typically be infinitely many sequences that satisfy a given recurrence relation.
$endgroup$
– Theo Bendit
Mar 22 at 1:38




$begingroup$
Your question throws up a lot of questions in my mind, but I think I can answer your last question: you can't. This is a recursive definition of a sequence, so you'll need to choose some initial values (two of them). If you nominate some values for $x_1$ and $x_2$, then you can compute $x_3$ from them, then $x_4$, $x_5$, etc. Without specifying initial values, there will typically be infinitely many sequences that satisfy a given recurrence relation.
$endgroup$
– Theo Bendit
Mar 22 at 1:38




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$begingroup$
@TheoBendit what about $x_n-3$? Does it not need three initial values? How do i nominate $x_1$ and $x_2$ to compute $x_3$?
$endgroup$
– Hidaw
Mar 22 at 17:27





$begingroup$
@TheoBendit what about $x_n-3$? Does it not need three initial values? How do i nominate $x_1$ and $x_2$ to compute $x_3$?
$endgroup$
– Hidaw
Mar 22 at 17:27





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$begingroup$
Oh, sorry, I missed $x_n-3$. You do indeed need to nominate three initial values.
$endgroup$
– Theo Bendit
Mar 23 at 0:09




$begingroup$
Oh, sorry, I missed $x_n-3$. You do indeed need to nominate three initial values.
$endgroup$
– Theo Bendit
Mar 23 at 0:09




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Yes, that's how you do it.
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– Theo Bendit
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$begingroup$
Yes, that's how you do it.
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– Theo Bendit
Mar 24 at 2:40




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It's no bother. :-)
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– Theo Bendit
Mar 24 at 17:57




$begingroup$
It's no bother. :-)
$endgroup$
– Theo Bendit
Mar 24 at 17:57










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With proper values for $alpha,beta,gamma, x_1, x_2$ ($x_1,x_2$ are assumed to be positive ) ---(*)



$$
-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma le alpha(1-gamma)mboxsign(x_n-2)+alphagamma mboxsign(x_n-3)le alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



and the recurrences



$$
x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\
x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\
$$



have the solutions



$$
x_n^i = C_0 beta^n-1-fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
x_n^s = C_0 beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
$$



and



$$
x_n^i le x_nle x_n^s
$$



Attached the plot for $x_n^i, x_n^s$ in red and $x_n$ in blue. Note that the recurrences $x_n^i, x_n^s$ should begin at $x_3$.



enter image description here



NOTE



Due to the structure



$$
x_n = beta x_n-1+cdots
$$



there is an exponential component all along $ntoinfty$ which eliminates the periodic behavior possibility.



To solve



$$
z_n = beta z_n-1+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



which is a linear recurrence we use the fact



$$
z_n = z_n^h+z_n^p\
z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0\
z_n^p -beta z_n-1^p=alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



then easily we find $z_n^h = Cbeta^n-1$. Now considering $z_n^p = C_nbeta^n-1$ and substituting into the particular we can find also the recurrence for $C_n$ which is



$$
C_n-C_n-1 = alphabeta^1-n
$$



with solution



$$
C_n = fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1
$$



and finally



$$
z_n = Cbeta^n-1+ fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1beta^n-1=C beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1
$$



The general solution can be computed with the help of the following MATHEMATICA script



x2 = 2; x3 = 3; x1 = 1;
path = x1, x2, x3;
beta = 0.5; alpha = 10; gamma = 3;
For[i = 1, i <= 30, i++, x4 = beta x3 + alpha (1 - gamma) Sign[x2] + alpha gamma Sign[x1];
AppendTo[path, x4]; x1 = x2; x2 = x3; x3 = x4]

ListPlot[path, PlotRange -> All]


Regarding --- (*) the most general boundaries can be calculated with the optimization problem



$$
min_u,v(max_u,v)alpha(1-gamma)sin u+alphagamma sin v
$$



or



$$
min(max)-alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha gamma -alpha (1-gamma ),alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha (1-gamma )+alpha
gamma
$$






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    If you do not mind can you please explain how you came to the solutions?
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    @Hidaw Please. See attached note.
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    I am sorry to bother you again, I have started looking at your solution again and I am a little confused what the role of the exponents are? Also $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0$ should it be $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = alpha$ ?
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    @Hidaw $z^h$ indicates the homogeneous solution and $z^p$ indicates a particular solution. This is a property of linear recurrences.
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    – Cesareo
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    and is it the same thing for $$ x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\ x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\ $$?
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$begingroup$

With proper values for $alpha,beta,gamma, x_1, x_2$ ($x_1,x_2$ are assumed to be positive ) ---(*)



$$
-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma le alpha(1-gamma)mboxsign(x_n-2)+alphagamma mboxsign(x_n-3)le alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



and the recurrences



$$
x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\
x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\
$$



have the solutions



$$
x_n^i = C_0 beta^n-1-fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
x_n^s = C_0 beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
$$



and



$$
x_n^i le x_nle x_n^s
$$



Attached the plot for $x_n^i, x_n^s$ in red and $x_n$ in blue. Note that the recurrences $x_n^i, x_n^s$ should begin at $x_3$.



enter image description here



NOTE



Due to the structure



$$
x_n = beta x_n-1+cdots
$$



there is an exponential component all along $ntoinfty$ which eliminates the periodic behavior possibility.



To solve



$$
z_n = beta z_n-1+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



which is a linear recurrence we use the fact



$$
z_n = z_n^h+z_n^p\
z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0\
z_n^p -beta z_n-1^p=alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



then easily we find $z_n^h = Cbeta^n-1$. Now considering $z_n^p = C_nbeta^n-1$ and substituting into the particular we can find also the recurrence for $C_n$ which is



$$
C_n-C_n-1 = alphabeta^1-n
$$



with solution



$$
C_n = fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1
$$



and finally



$$
z_n = Cbeta^n-1+ fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1beta^n-1=C beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1
$$



The general solution can be computed with the help of the following MATHEMATICA script



x2 = 2; x3 = 3; x1 = 1;
path = x1, x2, x3;
beta = 0.5; alpha = 10; gamma = 3;
For[i = 1, i <= 30, i++, x4 = beta x3 + alpha (1 - gamma) Sign[x2] + alpha gamma Sign[x1];
AppendTo[path, x4]; x1 = x2; x2 = x3; x3 = x4]

ListPlot[path, PlotRange -> All]


Regarding --- (*) the most general boundaries can be calculated with the optimization problem



$$
min_u,v(max_u,v)alpha(1-gamma)sin u+alphagamma sin v
$$



or



$$
min(max)-alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha gamma -alpha (1-gamma ),alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha (1-gamma )+alpha
gamma
$$






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    If you do not mind can you please explain how you came to the solutions?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 28 at 16:08






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Hidaw Please. See attached note.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Mar 28 at 16:37










  • $begingroup$
    I am sorry to bother you again, I have started looking at your solution again and I am a little confused what the role of the exponents are? Also $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0$ should it be $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = alpha$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 29 at 2:54











  • $begingroup$
    @Hidaw $z^h$ indicates the homogeneous solution and $z^p$ indicates a particular solution. This is a property of linear recurrences.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Mar 29 at 5:06










  • $begingroup$
    and is it the same thing for $$ x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\ x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\ $$?
    $endgroup$
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    Mar 29 at 14:04















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$begingroup$

With proper values for $alpha,beta,gamma, x_1, x_2$ ($x_1,x_2$ are assumed to be positive ) ---(*)



$$
-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma le alpha(1-gamma)mboxsign(x_n-2)+alphagamma mboxsign(x_n-3)le alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



and the recurrences



$$
x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\
x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\
$$



have the solutions



$$
x_n^i = C_0 beta^n-1-fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
x_n^s = C_0 beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
$$



and



$$
x_n^i le x_nle x_n^s
$$



Attached the plot for $x_n^i, x_n^s$ in red and $x_n$ in blue. Note that the recurrences $x_n^i, x_n^s$ should begin at $x_3$.



enter image description here



NOTE



Due to the structure



$$
x_n = beta x_n-1+cdots
$$



there is an exponential component all along $ntoinfty$ which eliminates the periodic behavior possibility.



To solve



$$
z_n = beta z_n-1+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



which is a linear recurrence we use the fact



$$
z_n = z_n^h+z_n^p\
z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0\
z_n^p -beta z_n-1^p=alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



then easily we find $z_n^h = Cbeta^n-1$. Now considering $z_n^p = C_nbeta^n-1$ and substituting into the particular we can find also the recurrence for $C_n$ which is



$$
C_n-C_n-1 = alphabeta^1-n
$$



with solution



$$
C_n = fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1
$$



and finally



$$
z_n = Cbeta^n-1+ fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1beta^n-1=C beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1
$$



The general solution can be computed with the help of the following MATHEMATICA script



x2 = 2; x3 = 3; x1 = 1;
path = x1, x2, x3;
beta = 0.5; alpha = 10; gamma = 3;
For[i = 1, i <= 30, i++, x4 = beta x3 + alpha (1 - gamma) Sign[x2] + alpha gamma Sign[x1];
AppendTo[path, x4]; x1 = x2; x2 = x3; x3 = x4]

ListPlot[path, PlotRange -> All]


Regarding --- (*) the most general boundaries can be calculated with the optimization problem



$$
min_u,v(max_u,v)alpha(1-gamma)sin u+alphagamma sin v
$$



or



$$
min(max)-alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha gamma -alpha (1-gamma ),alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha (1-gamma )+alpha
gamma
$$






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  • $begingroup$
    If you do not mind can you please explain how you came to the solutions?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 28 at 16:08






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Hidaw Please. See attached note.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Mar 28 at 16:37










  • $begingroup$
    I am sorry to bother you again, I have started looking at your solution again and I am a little confused what the role of the exponents are? Also $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0$ should it be $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = alpha$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 29 at 2:54











  • $begingroup$
    @Hidaw $z^h$ indicates the homogeneous solution and $z^p$ indicates a particular solution. This is a property of linear recurrences.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Mar 29 at 5:06










  • $begingroup$
    and is it the same thing for $$ x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\ x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\ $$?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 29 at 14:04













1





+50







1





+50



1




+50



$begingroup$

With proper values for $alpha,beta,gamma, x_1, x_2$ ($x_1,x_2$ are assumed to be positive ) ---(*)



$$
-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma le alpha(1-gamma)mboxsign(x_n-2)+alphagamma mboxsign(x_n-3)le alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



and the recurrences



$$
x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\
x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\
$$



have the solutions



$$
x_n^i = C_0 beta^n-1-fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
x_n^s = C_0 beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
$$



and



$$
x_n^i le x_nle x_n^s
$$



Attached the plot for $x_n^i, x_n^s$ in red and $x_n$ in blue. Note that the recurrences $x_n^i, x_n^s$ should begin at $x_3$.



enter image description here



NOTE



Due to the structure



$$
x_n = beta x_n-1+cdots
$$



there is an exponential component all along $ntoinfty$ which eliminates the periodic behavior possibility.



To solve



$$
z_n = beta z_n-1+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



which is a linear recurrence we use the fact



$$
z_n = z_n^h+z_n^p\
z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0\
z_n^p -beta z_n-1^p=alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



then easily we find $z_n^h = Cbeta^n-1$. Now considering $z_n^p = C_nbeta^n-1$ and substituting into the particular we can find also the recurrence for $C_n$ which is



$$
C_n-C_n-1 = alphabeta^1-n
$$



with solution



$$
C_n = fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1
$$



and finally



$$
z_n = Cbeta^n-1+ fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1beta^n-1=C beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1
$$



The general solution can be computed with the help of the following MATHEMATICA script



x2 = 2; x3 = 3; x1 = 1;
path = x1, x2, x3;
beta = 0.5; alpha = 10; gamma = 3;
For[i = 1, i <= 30, i++, x4 = beta x3 + alpha (1 - gamma) Sign[x2] + alpha gamma Sign[x1];
AppendTo[path, x4]; x1 = x2; x2 = x3; x3 = x4]

ListPlot[path, PlotRange -> All]


Regarding --- (*) the most general boundaries can be calculated with the optimization problem



$$
min_u,v(max_u,v)alpha(1-gamma)sin u+alphagamma sin v
$$



or



$$
min(max)-alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha gamma -alpha (1-gamma ),alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha (1-gamma )+alpha
gamma
$$






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



With proper values for $alpha,beta,gamma, x_1, x_2$ ($x_1,x_2$ are assumed to be positive ) ---(*)



$$
-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma le alpha(1-gamma)mboxsign(x_n-2)+alphagamma mboxsign(x_n-3)le alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



and the recurrences



$$
x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\
x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\
$$



have the solutions



$$
x_n^i = C_0 beta^n-1-fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
x_n^s = C_0 beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1\
$$



and



$$
x_n^i le x_nle x_n^s
$$



Attached the plot for $x_n^i, x_n^s$ in red and $x_n$ in blue. Note that the recurrences $x_n^i, x_n^s$ should begin at $x_3$.



enter image description here



NOTE



Due to the structure



$$
x_n = beta x_n-1+cdots
$$



there is an exponential component all along $ntoinfty$ which eliminates the periodic behavior possibility.



To solve



$$
z_n = beta z_n-1+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



which is a linear recurrence we use the fact



$$
z_n = z_n^h+z_n^p\
z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0\
z_n^p -beta z_n-1^p=alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma
$$



then easily we find $z_n^h = Cbeta^n-1$. Now considering $z_n^p = C_nbeta^n-1$ and substituting into the particular we can find also the recurrence for $C_n$ which is



$$
C_n-C_n-1 = alphabeta^1-n
$$



with solution



$$
C_n = fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1
$$



and finally



$$
z_n = Cbeta^n-1+ fracalpha beta left(1-beta ^-nright)beta -1beta^n-1=C beta^n-1+fracalpha(1-beta^n)beta-1
$$



The general solution can be computed with the help of the following MATHEMATICA script



x2 = 2; x3 = 3; x1 = 1;
path = x1, x2, x3;
beta = 0.5; alpha = 10; gamma = 3;
For[i = 1, i <= 30, i++, x4 = beta x3 + alpha (1 - gamma) Sign[x2] + alpha gamma Sign[x1];
AppendTo[path, x4]; x1 = x2; x2 = x3; x3 = x4]

ListPlot[path, PlotRange -> All]


Regarding --- (*) the most general boundaries can be calculated with the optimization problem



$$
min_u,v(max_u,v)alpha(1-gamma)sin u+alphagamma sin v
$$



or



$$
min(max)-alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha gamma -alpha (1-gamma ),alpha (1-gamma )-alpha gamma ,alpha (1-gamma )+alpha
gamma
$$







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answered Mar 27 at 20:41









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  • $begingroup$
    If you do not mind can you please explain how you came to the solutions?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 28 at 16:08






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Hidaw Please. See attached note.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Mar 28 at 16:37










  • $begingroup$
    I am sorry to bother you again, I have started looking at your solution again and I am a little confused what the role of the exponents are? Also $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0$ should it be $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = alpha$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 29 at 2:54











  • $begingroup$
    @Hidaw $z^h$ indicates the homogeneous solution and $z^p$ indicates a particular solution. This is a property of linear recurrences.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Mar 29 at 5:06










  • $begingroup$
    and is it the same thing for $$ x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\ x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\ $$?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 29 at 14:04
















  • $begingroup$
    If you do not mind can you please explain how you came to the solutions?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 28 at 16:08






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Hidaw Please. See attached note.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Mar 28 at 16:37










  • $begingroup$
    I am sorry to bother you again, I have started looking at your solution again and I am a little confused what the role of the exponents are? Also $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0$ should it be $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = alpha$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 29 at 2:54











  • $begingroup$
    @Hidaw $z^h$ indicates the homogeneous solution and $z^p$ indicates a particular solution. This is a property of linear recurrences.
    $endgroup$
    – Cesareo
    Mar 29 at 5:06










  • $begingroup$
    and is it the same thing for $$ x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\ x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\ $$?
    $endgroup$
    – Hidaw
    Mar 29 at 14:04















$begingroup$
If you do not mind can you please explain how you came to the solutions?
$endgroup$
– Hidaw
Mar 28 at 16:08




$begingroup$
If you do not mind can you please explain how you came to the solutions?
$endgroup$
– Hidaw
Mar 28 at 16:08




1




1




$begingroup$
@Hidaw Please. See attached note.
$endgroup$
– Cesareo
Mar 28 at 16:37




$begingroup$
@Hidaw Please. See attached note.
$endgroup$
– Cesareo
Mar 28 at 16:37












$begingroup$
I am sorry to bother you again, I have started looking at your solution again and I am a little confused what the role of the exponents are? Also $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0$ should it be $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = alpha$ ?
$endgroup$
– Hidaw
Mar 29 at 2:54





$begingroup$
I am sorry to bother you again, I have started looking at your solution again and I am a little confused what the role of the exponents are? Also $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = 0$ should it be $z_n^h -beta z_n-1^h = alpha$ ?
$endgroup$
– Hidaw
Mar 29 at 2:54













$begingroup$
@Hidaw $z^h$ indicates the homogeneous solution and $z^p$ indicates a particular solution. This is a property of linear recurrences.
$endgroup$
– Cesareo
Mar 29 at 5:06




$begingroup$
@Hidaw $z^h$ indicates the homogeneous solution and $z^p$ indicates a particular solution. This is a property of linear recurrences.
$endgroup$
– Cesareo
Mar 29 at 5:06












$begingroup$
and is it the same thing for $$ x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\ x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\ $$?
$endgroup$
– Hidaw
Mar 29 at 14:04




$begingroup$
and is it the same thing for $$ x_n^i = beta x_n-1^i-alpha(1-gamma)-alphagamma\ x_n^s = beta x_n-1^s+alpha(1-gamma)+alphagamma\ $$?
$endgroup$
– Hidaw
Mar 29 at 14:04

















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