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Evaluate $lim_mrightarrow inftybigg[m^3int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1bigg]$



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Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Evaluate $ lim_x rightarrow - infty fracsqrt9x^6-xx^3+1 $Evalute $ lim_nrightarrow inftysum^n_k=0fracbinomnkn^k(k+3) $Evaluation of $lim_nrightarrow inftyfracn!cdot e^nsqrtnn^n$ without stirling approximationHow to evaluate this limit $lim_xrightarrowinfty(1+sin(x))^x$Value of $limlimits_nrightarrow inftyfrac1nint^pi_0 lfloor n sin x rfloor , dx$Finding $lim_nrightarrow inftysum^n_r=1frac1f(r)g(r)$Finding limit of the form $lim_nrightarrow inftybigg(1+sum^n_r=1frac2binomnrbigg)^n$Finding value of $lim_rrightarrow inftyrcdot (2/pi)^r+1cdot f(r)$ isFinding value of $limlimits_nrightarrow inftyBig(frac(kn)!n^knBig)^frac1n$finding value of $lim_nrightarrow inftysqrt[n]frac(27)^n(n!)^3(3n)!$










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Evaluate $displaystyle lim_mrightarrow inftybigg[m^3int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1bigg]$ for $minmathbbN$




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put $x^5+1=t$ and $dx=frac15x^-4dt=frac15x^4dt$



$$lim_nrightarrow inftyfracm^35bigg[int^32m^5+1_m^5+1fracx^2t(t-1)dtbigg]$$



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Evaluate $displaystyle lim_mrightarrow inftybigg[m^3int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1bigg]$ for $minmathbbN$




what i try



put $x^5+1=t$ and $dx=frac15x^-4dt=frac15x^4dt$



$$lim_nrightarrow inftyfracm^35bigg[int^32m^5+1_m^5+1fracx^2t(t-1)dtbigg]$$



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Evaluate $displaystyle lim_mrightarrow inftybigg[m^3int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1bigg]$ for $minmathbbN$




what i try



put $x^5+1=t$ and $dx=frac15x^-4dt=frac15x^4dt$



$$lim_nrightarrow inftyfracm^35bigg[int^32m^5+1_m^5+1fracx^2t(t-1)dtbigg]$$



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Evaluate $displaystyle lim_mrightarrow inftybigg[m^3int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1bigg]$ for $minmathbbN$




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put $x^5+1=t$ and $dx=frac15x^-4dt=frac15x^4dt$



$$lim_nrightarrow inftyfracm^35bigg[int^32m^5+1_m^5+1fracx^2t(t-1)dtbigg]$$



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We have $int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 leq mcdot frac2mm^5+1 stackrelmto inftylongrightarrow 0$



Set $I(m) = int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 Rightarrow m^3cdot I(m) = fracI(m)frac1m^3$.



So, we have a L'Hospital case of $frac00$:



begineqnarray* fracI(m)frac1m^3
& stackrelL'Hospt.sim & frac2frac2m(2m)^5+1-fracmm^5+1-3cdot m^-4 \
& = & -frac13left(frac4m^532m^5+1 - fracm^5m^5+1right) \
& stackrelm to inftylongrightarrow & frac724
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    Putting $x=mt$ in the integral we see that the desired limit is equal to the limit of the expression $$m^5int_1^2fract,dtm^5t^5+1$$ which is same as the limit $$lim_hto 0^+ int_1^2fract,dth+t^5$$ via the substitution $h=1/m^5$. Clearly the integrand is continuous in both $t, h$ and thus the limit can be taken inside to get the desired limit as $int_1^2t^-4,dt=7/24$.




    Another simpler approach is to note that $$m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4=frac724$$ and we have therefore $$left|m^3int_m^2mfracx,dx1+x^5-frac724right|=m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4(1+x^5)leq m^3cdot mcdotfrac1m^4(1+m^5)$$ and the rightmost expression tends to $0$. This avoids the interchange of limit with integral and is fully within the scope of a typical high school calculus course.






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      Nice way to do it ! Using it, and using series, we could find the asymptotics $frac724-frac2552048 m^5+Oleft(frac1m^10right)$
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    Another intuive but non-rigorous argument. Intuitively as the lower bound of the integral in the denominator, $mto infty$ so the integrand goes to $0$ so we can say essentially the integral in the denominator goes to $0$. This is very inviting for an application of L'Hopital's rule which gives you $7/24$ as the limiting value as follows. We can approximate the integral by: $$beginalignedint_m^2mdfrac1x^4mathrm dx=dfrac-13(2m)^3+dfrac13m^3implies lim_mto inftym^3int_m^2mdfracxx^5+1mathrm dxto dfrac-124+dfrac13=boxeddfrac724endaligned$$






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    We have $int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 leq mcdot frac2mm^5+1 stackrelmto inftylongrightarrow 0$



    Set $I(m) = int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 Rightarrow m^3cdot I(m) = fracI(m)frac1m^3$.



    So, we have a L'Hospital case of $frac00$:



    begineqnarray* fracI(m)frac1m^3
    & stackrelL'Hospt.sim & frac2frac2m(2m)^5+1-fracmm^5+1-3cdot m^-4 \
    & = & -frac13left(frac4m^532m^5+1 - fracm^5m^5+1right) \
    & stackrelm to inftylongrightarrow & frac724
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      We have $int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 leq mcdot frac2mm^5+1 stackrelmto inftylongrightarrow 0$



      Set $I(m) = int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 Rightarrow m^3cdot I(m) = fracI(m)frac1m^3$.



      So, we have a L'Hospital case of $frac00$:



      begineqnarray* fracI(m)frac1m^3
      & stackrelL'Hospt.sim & frac2frac2m(2m)^5+1-fracmm^5+1-3cdot m^-4 \
      & = & -frac13left(frac4m^532m^5+1 - fracm^5m^5+1right) \
      & stackrelm to inftylongrightarrow & frac724
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        $begingroup$

        We have $int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 leq mcdot frac2mm^5+1 stackrelmto inftylongrightarrow 0$



        Set $I(m) = int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 Rightarrow m^3cdot I(m) = fracI(m)frac1m^3$.



        So, we have a L'Hospital case of $frac00$:



        begineqnarray* fracI(m)frac1m^3
        & stackrelL'Hospt.sim & frac2frac2m(2m)^5+1-fracmm^5+1-3cdot m^-4 \
        & = & -frac13left(frac4m^532m^5+1 - fracm^5m^5+1right) \
        & stackrelm to inftylongrightarrow & frac724
        endeqnarray*






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        We have $int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 leq mcdot frac2mm^5+1 stackrelmto inftylongrightarrow 0$



        Set $I(m) = int^2m_mfracxdxx^5+1 Rightarrow m^3cdot I(m) = fracI(m)frac1m^3$.



        So, we have a L'Hospital case of $frac00$:



        begineqnarray* fracI(m)frac1m^3
        & stackrelL'Hospt.sim & frac2frac2m(2m)^5+1-fracmm^5+1-3cdot m^-4 \
        & = & -frac13left(frac4m^532m^5+1 - fracm^5m^5+1right) \
        & stackrelm to inftylongrightarrow & frac724
        endeqnarray*







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            Putting $x=mt$ in the integral we see that the desired limit is equal to the limit of the expression $$m^5int_1^2fract,dtm^5t^5+1$$ which is same as the limit $$lim_hto 0^+ int_1^2fract,dth+t^5$$ via the substitution $h=1/m^5$. Clearly the integrand is continuous in both $t, h$ and thus the limit can be taken inside to get the desired limit as $int_1^2t^-4,dt=7/24$.




            Another simpler approach is to note that $$m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4=frac724$$ and we have therefore $$left|m^3int_m^2mfracx,dx1+x^5-frac724right|=m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4(1+x^5)leq m^3cdot mcdotfrac1m^4(1+m^5)$$ and the rightmost expression tends to $0$. This avoids the interchange of limit with integral and is fully within the scope of a typical high school calculus course.






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              Nice way to do it ! Using it, and using series, we could find the asymptotics $frac724-frac2552048 m^5+Oleft(frac1m^10right)$
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              – Claude Leibovici
              Mar 26 at 9:43










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              @ClaudeLeibovici: I have obtained a rather crude approximation of order $O(m^-5)$ in later part of updated answer.
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              Mar 26 at 10:43















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            $begingroup$

            Putting $x=mt$ in the integral we see that the desired limit is equal to the limit of the expression $$m^5int_1^2fract,dtm^5t^5+1$$ which is same as the limit $$lim_hto 0^+ int_1^2fract,dth+t^5$$ via the substitution $h=1/m^5$. Clearly the integrand is continuous in both $t, h$ and thus the limit can be taken inside to get the desired limit as $int_1^2t^-4,dt=7/24$.




            Another simpler approach is to note that $$m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4=frac724$$ and we have therefore $$left|m^3int_m^2mfracx,dx1+x^5-frac724right|=m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4(1+x^5)leq m^3cdot mcdotfrac1m^4(1+m^5)$$ and the rightmost expression tends to $0$. This avoids the interchange of limit with integral and is fully within the scope of a typical high school calculus course.






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            • 2




              $begingroup$
              Nice way to do it ! Using it, and using series, we could find the asymptotics $frac724-frac2552048 m^5+Oleft(frac1m^10right)$
              $endgroup$
              – Claude Leibovici
              Mar 26 at 9:43










            • $begingroup$
              @ClaudeLeibovici: I have obtained a rather crude approximation of order $O(m^-5)$ in later part of updated answer.
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              – Paramanand Singh
              Mar 26 at 10:43













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            Putting $x=mt$ in the integral we see that the desired limit is equal to the limit of the expression $$m^5int_1^2fract,dtm^5t^5+1$$ which is same as the limit $$lim_hto 0^+ int_1^2fract,dth+t^5$$ via the substitution $h=1/m^5$. Clearly the integrand is continuous in both $t, h$ and thus the limit can be taken inside to get the desired limit as $int_1^2t^-4,dt=7/24$.




            Another simpler approach is to note that $$m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4=frac724$$ and we have therefore $$left|m^3int_m^2mfracx,dx1+x^5-frac724right|=m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4(1+x^5)leq m^3cdot mcdotfrac1m^4(1+m^5)$$ and the rightmost expression tends to $0$. This avoids the interchange of limit with integral and is fully within the scope of a typical high school calculus course.






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            Putting $x=mt$ in the integral we see that the desired limit is equal to the limit of the expression $$m^5int_1^2fract,dtm^5t^5+1$$ which is same as the limit $$lim_hto 0^+ int_1^2fract,dth+t^5$$ via the substitution $h=1/m^5$. Clearly the integrand is continuous in both $t, h$ and thus the limit can be taken inside to get the desired limit as $int_1^2t^-4,dt=7/24$.




            Another simpler approach is to note that $$m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4=frac724$$ and we have therefore $$left|m^3int_m^2mfracx,dx1+x^5-frac724right|=m^3int_m^2mfracdxx^4(1+x^5)leq m^3cdot mcdotfrac1m^4(1+m^5)$$ and the rightmost expression tends to $0$. This avoids the interchange of limit with integral and is fully within the scope of a typical high school calculus course.







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              Nice way to do it ! Using it, and using series, we could find the asymptotics $frac724-frac2552048 m^5+Oleft(frac1m^10right)$
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              – Claude Leibovici
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            • $begingroup$
              @ClaudeLeibovici: I have obtained a rather crude approximation of order $O(m^-5)$ in later part of updated answer.
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            • 2




              $begingroup$
              Nice way to do it ! Using it, and using series, we could find the asymptotics $frac724-frac2552048 m^5+Oleft(frac1m^10right)$
              $endgroup$
              – Claude Leibovici
              Mar 26 at 9:43










            • $begingroup$
              @ClaudeLeibovici: I have obtained a rather crude approximation of order $O(m^-5)$ in later part of updated answer.
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            Nice way to do it ! Using it, and using series, we could find the asymptotics $frac724-frac2552048 m^5+Oleft(frac1m^10right)$
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            – Claude Leibovici
            Mar 26 at 9:43




            $begingroup$
            Nice way to do it ! Using it, and using series, we could find the asymptotics $frac724-frac2552048 m^5+Oleft(frac1m^10right)$
            $endgroup$
            – Claude Leibovici
            Mar 26 at 9:43












            $begingroup$
            @ClaudeLeibovici: I have obtained a rather crude approximation of order $O(m^-5)$ in later part of updated answer.
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            – Paramanand Singh
            Mar 26 at 10:43




            $begingroup$
            @ClaudeLeibovici: I have obtained a rather crude approximation of order $O(m^-5)$ in later part of updated answer.
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            Another intuive but non-rigorous argument. Intuitively as the lower bound of the integral in the denominator, $mto infty$ so the integrand goes to $0$ so we can say essentially the integral in the denominator goes to $0$. This is very inviting for an application of L'Hopital's rule which gives you $7/24$ as the limiting value as follows. We can approximate the integral by: $$beginalignedint_m^2mdfrac1x^4mathrm dx=dfrac-13(2m)^3+dfrac13m^3implies lim_mto inftym^3int_m^2mdfracxx^5+1mathrm dxto dfrac-124+dfrac13=boxeddfrac724endaligned$$






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            Another intuive but non-rigorous argument. Intuitively as the lower bound of the integral in the denominator, $mto infty$ so the integrand goes to $0$ so we can say essentially the integral in the denominator goes to $0$. This is very inviting for an application of L'Hopital's rule which gives you $7/24$ as the limiting value as follows. We can approximate the integral by: $$beginalignedint_m^2mdfrac1x^4mathrm dx=dfrac-13(2m)^3+dfrac13m^3implies lim_mto inftym^3int_m^2mdfracxx^5+1mathrm dxto dfrac-124+dfrac13=boxeddfrac724endaligned$$






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            Another intuive but non-rigorous argument. Intuitively as the lower bound of the integral in the denominator, $mto infty$ so the integrand goes to $0$ so we can say essentially the integral in the denominator goes to $0$. This is very inviting for an application of L'Hopital's rule which gives you $7/24$ as the limiting value as follows. We can approximate the integral by: $$beginalignedint_m^2mdfrac1x^4mathrm dx=dfrac-13(2m)^3+dfrac13m^3implies lim_mto inftym^3int_m^2mdfracxx^5+1mathrm dxto dfrac-124+dfrac13=boxeddfrac724endaligned$$






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            Another intuive but non-rigorous argument. Intuitively as the lower bound of the integral in the denominator, $mto infty$ so the integrand goes to $0$ so we can say essentially the integral in the denominator goes to $0$. This is very inviting for an application of L'Hopital's rule which gives you $7/24$ as the limiting value as follows. We can approximate the integral by: $$beginalignedint_m^2mdfrac1x^4mathrm dx=dfrac-13(2m)^3+dfrac13m^3implies lim_mto inftym^3int_m^2mdfracxx^5+1mathrm dxto dfrac-124+dfrac13=boxeddfrac724endaligned$$







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