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Prove that $3$ is prime in $mathbb Q(i)$ but not in $mathbb Q(√6)$ [closed]



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Prove 3 is prime in the ring $BbbZ[i]$.Show that $3$ is not a prime in $mathbb Q[sqrt7]$Correspondence between valuations and prime idealsNorm of Prime IdealFalse proof: no element has a prime norm in the ring $mathbb Z[zeta_p]$possible norms of prime ideals in the class group of $K=mathbbQ(sqrt-21)$confusion with calculating the ideal class group of a quadratic fieldCalculating the class numberFinding all the ideals of a given prime normDoes the prime ideal with its norm a power of prime exist? where $p$ is a prime number.If $mathcalO_BbbQ(sqrtd)$ has class number $2$ or higher, does that mean $sqrtd$ is irreducible but not prime?The prime ideal in a number ring










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    This has been explained nicely on this site. First $3$ is prime in $Bbb Q(i)$, see here. In $Bbb Q(sqrt6)$ however, $3=(3+sqrt6)(3-sqrt6)$. For an almost duplicate of this, see here.
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    You probably mean $mathbbZ[i]$ and $mathbbZ[sqrt6]$ instead?
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I m confused a little bit helps me to get out of this
As I know if the norm of a given number is prime then that number is prime










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closed as off-topic by Saad, Dietrich Burde, Riccardo.Alestra, YiFan, José Carlos Santos Mar 26 at 13:45


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    This has been explained nicely on this site. First $3$ is prime in $Bbb Q(i)$, see here. In $Bbb Q(sqrt6)$ however, $3=(3+sqrt6)(3-sqrt6)$. For an almost duplicate of this, see here.
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    Mar 26 at 9:05







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    This has been explained nicely on this site. First $3$ is prime in $Bbb Q(i)$, see here. In $Bbb Q(sqrt6)$ however, $3=(3+sqrt6)(3-sqrt6)$. For an almost duplicate of this, see here.
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    Mar 26 at 9:05







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    You probably mean $mathbbZ[i]$ and $mathbbZ[sqrt6]$ instead?
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    Mar 26 at 9:08












  • 5




    $begingroup$
    This has been explained nicely on this site. First $3$ is prime in $Bbb Q(i)$, see here. In $Bbb Q(sqrt6)$ however, $3=(3+sqrt6)(3-sqrt6)$. For an almost duplicate of this, see here.
    $endgroup$
    – Dietrich Burde
    Mar 26 at 9:05







  • 3




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    You probably mean $mathbbZ[i]$ and $mathbbZ[sqrt6]$ instead?
    $endgroup$
    – Henno Brandsma
    Mar 26 at 9:08







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$begingroup$
This has been explained nicely on this site. First $3$ is prime in $Bbb Q(i)$, see here. In $Bbb Q(sqrt6)$ however, $3=(3+sqrt6)(3-sqrt6)$. For an almost duplicate of this, see here.
$endgroup$
– Dietrich Burde
Mar 26 at 9:05





$begingroup$
This has been explained nicely on this site. First $3$ is prime in $Bbb Q(i)$, see here. In $Bbb Q(sqrt6)$ however, $3=(3+sqrt6)(3-sqrt6)$. For an almost duplicate of this, see here.
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Mar 26 at 9:05





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You probably mean $mathbbZ[i]$ and $mathbbZ[sqrt6]$ instead?
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We're working in general rings, not just in $mathbbZ$, which is where you first encountered the notion of a prime element.



An element $p$ of a (commutative unitary) ring $R$ is prime iff $forall x,y in R: p | xy implies p|x text or p|y$. Because we quantify over $R$ this very much depends on the ring we're working in. And (confusingly?) $3=1+1+1$ is a member of $mathbbZ$, $mathbbZ[i]$ and $mathbbZ[sqrt6]$ and many more rings and for all of these we can ask "is $3$ prime in that ring"? and we get different answers for different rings.



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    We're working in general rings, not just in $mathbbZ$, which is where you first encountered the notion of a prime element.



    An element $p$ of a (commutative unitary) ring $R$ is prime iff $forall x,y in R: p | xy implies p|x text or p|y$. Because we quantify over $R$ this very much depends on the ring we're working in. And (confusingly?) $3=1+1+1$ is a member of $mathbbZ$, $mathbbZ[i]$ and $mathbbZ[sqrt6]$ and many more rings and for all of these we can ask "is $3$ prime in that ring"? and we get different answers for different rings.



    See the comments for links to previous answers, which I won't copy here.






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      $begingroup$

      We're working in general rings, not just in $mathbbZ$, which is where you first encountered the notion of a prime element.



      An element $p$ of a (commutative unitary) ring $R$ is prime iff $forall x,y in R: p | xy implies p|x text or p|y$. Because we quantify over $R$ this very much depends on the ring we're working in. And (confusingly?) $3=1+1+1$ is a member of $mathbbZ$, $mathbbZ[i]$ and $mathbbZ[sqrt6]$ and many more rings and for all of these we can ask "is $3$ prime in that ring"? and we get different answers for different rings.



      See the comments for links to previous answers, which I won't copy here.






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        $begingroup$

        We're working in general rings, not just in $mathbbZ$, which is where you first encountered the notion of a prime element.



        An element $p$ of a (commutative unitary) ring $R$ is prime iff $forall x,y in R: p | xy implies p|x text or p|y$. Because we quantify over $R$ this very much depends on the ring we're working in. And (confusingly?) $3=1+1+1$ is a member of $mathbbZ$, $mathbbZ[i]$ and $mathbbZ[sqrt6]$ and many more rings and for all of these we can ask "is $3$ prime in that ring"? and we get different answers for different rings.



        See the comments for links to previous answers, which I won't copy here.






        share|cite|improve this answer











        $endgroup$



        We're working in general rings, not just in $mathbbZ$, which is where you first encountered the notion of a prime element.



        An element $p$ of a (commutative unitary) ring $R$ is prime iff $forall x,y in R: p | xy implies p|x text or p|y$. Because we quantify over $R$ this very much depends on the ring we're working in. And (confusingly?) $3=1+1+1$ is a member of $mathbbZ$, $mathbbZ[i]$ and $mathbbZ[sqrt6]$ and many more rings and for all of these we can ask "is $3$ prime in that ring"? and we get different answers for different rings.



        See the comments for links to previous answers, which I won't copy here.







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