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Solving $1^x+2^x+3^x=0$ equations…


Complex Values and Linear AlgebraWolframAlpha seems to suggest that $log(z) = log(-z)$How can I solve system of linear equations over finite fields in WolframAlpha?How are Quaternions derived from Complex numbers or Real numbers?Does Lambert W (Product Log) count as an explicit solution?Showing complex transformations in a fluid waySolving simple transcendental equationsDefining a principal square root in the complex space : Wolfram caseTrigonometry or Complex? Graphs, maybeGetting Trig Answers













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Is it possible to solve for x this kind of equation? Since 1,2,3 are not multiples to each other I see a priori no possibility.
$$1^x+2^x+3^x=0; x?$$



Computing this on Wolfram Alpha, for example, returns two complex solutions for $x$. Wolfram Alpha usually returns a formal and algebraical expression to represent the solution, but this time no formal one is returned, instead, just a long, infinite and complex number with seems to be the result of an iterating computation rather than a formal way to solve it.










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    I've voted this up as it leads to an interesting project.
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    – Martin Hansen
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    For the complex zeros $|2^z+3^z| < 1 $ for $ Re(z) > 1$ and $|3^-z+(3/2)^-z| < 1$ for $Re(x) < -1$ so the zeros are located in a strip $Re(x) in [-1,1]$. There is at least one zero at $-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$ and by almost periodicity there are infinitely many of them, almost linear spaced vertically.
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    I guess one of the problems is I pretend to find an analytical solution for a transcendental equation...
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    – Fco. Javier López
    14 hours ago















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$begingroup$


Is it possible to solve for x this kind of equation? Since 1,2,3 are not multiples to each other I see a priori no possibility.
$$1^x+2^x+3^x=0; x?$$



Computing this on Wolfram Alpha, for example, returns two complex solutions for $x$. Wolfram Alpha usually returns a formal and algebraical expression to represent the solution, but this time no formal one is returned, instead, just a long, infinite and complex number with seems to be the result of an iterating computation rather than a formal way to solve it.










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  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I've voted this up as it leads to an interesting project.
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    22 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    For the complex zeros $|2^z+3^z| < 1 $ for $ Re(z) > 1$ and $|3^-z+(3/2)^-z| < 1$ for $Re(x) < -1$ so the zeros are located in a strip $Re(x) in [-1,1]$. There is at least one zero at $-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$ and by almost periodicity there are infinitely many of them, almost linear spaced vertically.
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    22 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    I guess one of the problems is I pretend to find an analytical solution for a transcendental equation...
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    14 hours ago













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Is it possible to solve for x this kind of equation? Since 1,2,3 are not multiples to each other I see a priori no possibility.
$$1^x+2^x+3^x=0; x?$$



Computing this on Wolfram Alpha, for example, returns two complex solutions for $x$. Wolfram Alpha usually returns a formal and algebraical expression to represent the solution, but this time no formal one is returned, instead, just a long, infinite and complex number with seems to be the result of an iterating computation rather than a formal way to solve it.










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Is it possible to solve for x this kind of equation? Since 1,2,3 are not multiples to each other I see a priori no possibility.
$$1^x+2^x+3^x=0; x?$$



Computing this on Wolfram Alpha, for example, returns two complex solutions for $x$. Wolfram Alpha usually returns a formal and algebraical expression to represent the solution, but this time no formal one is returned, instead, just a long, infinite and complex number with seems to be the result of an iterating computation rather than a formal way to solve it.







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    I've voted this up as it leads to an interesting project.
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    – Martin Hansen
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    For the complex zeros $|2^z+3^z| < 1 $ for $ Re(z) > 1$ and $|3^-z+(3/2)^-z| < 1$ for $Re(x) < -1$ so the zeros are located in a strip $Re(x) in [-1,1]$. There is at least one zero at $-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$ and by almost periodicity there are infinitely many of them, almost linear spaced vertically.
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    – reuns
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  • $begingroup$
    I guess one of the problems is I pretend to find an analytical solution for a transcendental equation...
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    14 hours ago












  • 1




    $begingroup$
    I've voted this up as it leads to an interesting project.
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    22 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    For the complex zeros $|2^z+3^z| < 1 $ for $ Re(z) > 1$ and $|3^-z+(3/2)^-z| < 1$ for $Re(x) < -1$ so the zeros are located in a strip $Re(x) in [-1,1]$. There is at least one zero at $-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$ and by almost periodicity there are infinitely many of them, almost linear spaced vertically.
    $endgroup$
    – reuns
    22 hours ago











  • $begingroup$
    I guess one of the problems is I pretend to find an analytical solution for a transcendental equation...
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    14 hours ago







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I've voted this up as it leads to an interesting project.
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– Martin Hansen
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I've voted this up as it leads to an interesting project.
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– Martin Hansen
22 hours ago




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For the complex zeros $|2^z+3^z| < 1 $ for $ Re(z) > 1$ and $|3^-z+(3/2)^-z| < 1$ for $Re(x) < -1$ so the zeros are located in a strip $Re(x) in [-1,1]$. There is at least one zero at $-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$ and by almost periodicity there are infinitely many of them, almost linear spaced vertically.
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For the complex zeros $|2^z+3^z| < 1 $ for $ Re(z) > 1$ and $|3^-z+(3/2)^-z| < 1$ for $Re(x) < -1$ so the zeros are located in a strip $Re(x) in [-1,1]$. There is at least one zero at $-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$ and by almost periodicity there are infinitely many of them, almost linear spaced vertically.
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I guess one of the problems is I pretend to find an analytical solution for a transcendental equation...
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– Fco. Javier López
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It certainly can't have any real value solutions since,
$$1^x+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$1+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
And $a^x>0$ for all real $x$ and all real $a>0$.



So it makes sense that if you want a solution, the search needs the extended number system of complex numbers.



If you ask Wolfram Alpha to solve
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
it will give you the numerical solutions
$$x=-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$$



If you want to try and obtain these by hand you could try applying the numerical Newton Raphson method to the equation; it works with complex numbers as well as the reals, but the arithmetic may be daunting especially if you are interested in solutions to
$$sum_k=1^n k^x=0$$



To explore this properly would need software that can apply the Newton Raphson method in complex numbers and show you what it's doing.



A quick google search makes me think Maxima may do it for free : http://maxima.sourceforge.net/
or GNU Octave : http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
although I have no experience of either, or even if they can cope with complex numbers.



The irony is, of course, that you ideally want to start near a solution. I see this is becoming an interesting project; be good to graph the modulus of the complex function for small values of k, as often done for Zeta function.



Let us know if you manage it !






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    I know. But how do you solve it?
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    I've added the numerical answers to my post, but I agree with your original question which said these look like solutions obtained by iteration rather than symbolic manipulation
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    yesterday






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    $begingroup$
    The key problem is the initial guess. Suppose that we have the equation $sum_k=2^n k^x=-1$ where $n$ is given, any idea for $x_0=a+b i$ ?
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    – Claude Leibovici
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    @Claude Leibovici I've added a reply to my answer as the limit on the length of comment prevented it going here.
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Too long for a comment.



After @Martin Hansen's answer, I had a look to he zero of equation
$$f_n(x)=sum_k=1^n k^x$$
(give a lot of attention to @reuns's comment).



I used Newton method. For the base case $(n=3)$ starting with $x_0=-1+pi,i$ the iterates are



$$left(
beginarraycc
1 & -0.501820 ,+ ,3.86512 ,i \
2 & -0.487049 ,+ ,3.58176,i \
3 & -0.454116 ,+ ,3.59875 ,i \
4 & -0.454397 ,+ ,3.59817, i
endarray
right)$$



Below are given some results which could be a good start (I hope) for a deeper exploration (as @Martin Hansen suggested).
$$left(
beginarraycc
3 & -0.454397, + ,3.59817 , i \
4 & -0.625971, + ,3.12712 , i \
5 & -0.714285, + ,2.83349 , i \
6 & -0.767633, + ,2.62901 , i \
7 & -0.803209, + ,2.47644 , i \
8 & -0.828584, + ,2.35711 , i \
9 & -0.847585, + ,2.26049 , i \
10 & -0.862348, + ,2.18022 , i \
11 & -0.874153, + ,2.11212 , i \
12 & -0.883812, + ,2.05341 , i \
13 & -0.891868, + ,2.00209 , i \
14 & -0.898692, + ,1.95672 , i \
15 & -0.904551, + ,1.91623 , i \
16 & -0.909640, + ,1.87978 , i \
17 & -0.914103, + ,1.84675 , i \
18 & -0.918051, + ,1.81661 , i \
19 & -0.921571, + ,1.78897 , i \
20 & -0.924730, + ,1.76349 , i
endarray
right)$$






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    How long did it take to you to converge to the root? (How many iterations)
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    @Fco.JavierLópez. It is not bad. I shall add details tomorrow morning. By the way, if I may ask, where are you located ?
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    @ClaudeLeivici I'm located in Spain.
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    @Fco.JavierLópez. Pues, somos vecinos, amigo !
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It certainly can't have any real value solutions since,
$$1^x+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$1+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
And $a^x>0$ for all real $x$ and all real $a>0$.



So it makes sense that if you want a solution, the search needs the extended number system of complex numbers.



If you ask Wolfram Alpha to solve
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
it will give you the numerical solutions
$$x=-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$$



If you want to try and obtain these by hand you could try applying the numerical Newton Raphson method to the equation; it works with complex numbers as well as the reals, but the arithmetic may be daunting especially if you are interested in solutions to
$$sum_k=1^n k^x=0$$



To explore this properly would need software that can apply the Newton Raphson method in complex numbers and show you what it's doing.



A quick google search makes me think Maxima may do it for free : http://maxima.sourceforge.net/
or GNU Octave : http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
although I have no experience of either, or even if they can cope with complex numbers.



The irony is, of course, that you ideally want to start near a solution. I see this is becoming an interesting project; be good to graph the modulus of the complex function for small values of k, as often done for Zeta function.



Let us know if you manage it !






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  • $begingroup$
    I know. But how do you solve it?
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    I've added the numerical answers to my post, but I agree with your original question which said these look like solutions obtained by iteration rather than symbolic manipulation
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The key problem is the initial guess. Suppose that we have the equation $sum_k=2^n k^x=-1$ where $n$ is given, any idea for $x_0=a+b i$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    @Claude Leibovici I've added a reply to my answer as the limit on the length of comment prevented it going here.
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    22 hours ago















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$begingroup$

It certainly can't have any real value solutions since,
$$1^x+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$1+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
And $a^x>0$ for all real $x$ and all real $a>0$.



So it makes sense that if you want a solution, the search needs the extended number system of complex numbers.



If you ask Wolfram Alpha to solve
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
it will give you the numerical solutions
$$x=-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$$



If you want to try and obtain these by hand you could try applying the numerical Newton Raphson method to the equation; it works with complex numbers as well as the reals, but the arithmetic may be daunting especially if you are interested in solutions to
$$sum_k=1^n k^x=0$$



To explore this properly would need software that can apply the Newton Raphson method in complex numbers and show you what it's doing.



A quick google search makes me think Maxima may do it for free : http://maxima.sourceforge.net/
or GNU Octave : http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
although I have no experience of either, or even if they can cope with complex numbers.



The irony is, of course, that you ideally want to start near a solution. I see this is becoming an interesting project; be good to graph the modulus of the complex function for small values of k, as often done for Zeta function.



Let us know if you manage it !






share|cite|improve this answer











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  • $begingroup$
    I know. But how do you solve it?
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    I've added the numerical answers to my post, but I agree with your original question which said these look like solutions obtained by iteration rather than symbolic manipulation
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The key problem is the initial guess. Suppose that we have the equation $sum_k=2^n k^x=-1$ where $n$ is given, any idea for $x_0=a+b i$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    @Claude Leibovici I've added a reply to my answer as the limit on the length of comment prevented it going here.
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    22 hours ago













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$begingroup$

It certainly can't have any real value solutions since,
$$1^x+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$1+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
And $a^x>0$ for all real $x$ and all real $a>0$.



So it makes sense that if you want a solution, the search needs the extended number system of complex numbers.



If you ask Wolfram Alpha to solve
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
it will give you the numerical solutions
$$x=-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$$



If you want to try and obtain these by hand you could try applying the numerical Newton Raphson method to the equation; it works with complex numbers as well as the reals, but the arithmetic may be daunting especially if you are interested in solutions to
$$sum_k=1^n k^x=0$$



To explore this properly would need software that can apply the Newton Raphson method in complex numbers and show you what it's doing.



A quick google search makes me think Maxima may do it for free : http://maxima.sourceforge.net/
or GNU Octave : http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
although I have no experience of either, or even if they can cope with complex numbers.



The irony is, of course, that you ideally want to start near a solution. I see this is becoming an interesting project; be good to graph the modulus of the complex function for small values of k, as often done for Zeta function.



Let us know if you manage it !






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



It certainly can't have any real value solutions since,
$$1^x+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$1+2^x+3^x=0$$
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
And $a^x>0$ for all real $x$ and all real $a>0$.



So it makes sense that if you want a solution, the search needs the extended number system of complex numbers.



If you ask Wolfram Alpha to solve
$$2^x+3^x=-1$$
it will give you the numerical solutions
$$x=-0.454397 pm 3.59817i$$



If you want to try and obtain these by hand you could try applying the numerical Newton Raphson method to the equation; it works with complex numbers as well as the reals, but the arithmetic may be daunting especially if you are interested in solutions to
$$sum_k=1^n k^x=0$$



To explore this properly would need software that can apply the Newton Raphson method in complex numbers and show you what it's doing.



A quick google search makes me think Maxima may do it for free : http://maxima.sourceforge.net/
or GNU Octave : http://www.gnu.org/software/octave/
although I have no experience of either, or even if they can cope with complex numbers.



The irony is, of course, that you ideally want to start near a solution. I see this is becoming an interesting project; be good to graph the modulus of the complex function for small values of k, as often done for Zeta function.



Let us know if you manage it !







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    I know. But how do you solve it?
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    – Fco. Javier López
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    I've added the numerical answers to my post, but I agree with your original question which said these look like solutions obtained by iteration rather than symbolic manipulation
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The key problem is the initial guess. Suppose that we have the equation $sum_k=2^n k^x=-1$ where $n$ is given, any idea for $x_0=a+b i$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    yesterday










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    @Claude Leibovici I've added a reply to my answer as the limit on the length of comment prevented it going here.
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    – Martin Hansen
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    I know. But how do you solve it?
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    I've added the numerical answers to my post, but I agree with your original question which said these look like solutions obtained by iteration rather than symbolic manipulation
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    yesterday






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    The key problem is the initial guess. Suppose that we have the equation $sum_k=2^n k^x=-1$ where $n$ is given, any idea for $x_0=a+b i$ ?
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    yesterday










  • $begingroup$
    @Claude Leibovici I've added a reply to my answer as the limit on the length of comment prevented it going here.
    $endgroup$
    – Martin Hansen
    22 hours ago















$begingroup$
I know. But how do you solve it?
$endgroup$
– Fco. Javier López
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$begingroup$
I know. But how do you solve it?
$endgroup$
– Fco. Javier López
yesterday












$begingroup$
I've added the numerical answers to my post, but I agree with your original question which said these look like solutions obtained by iteration rather than symbolic manipulation
$endgroup$
– Martin Hansen
yesterday




$begingroup$
I've added the numerical answers to my post, but I agree with your original question which said these look like solutions obtained by iteration rather than symbolic manipulation
$endgroup$
– Martin Hansen
yesterday




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The key problem is the initial guess. Suppose that we have the equation $sum_k=2^n k^x=-1$ where $n$ is given, any idea for $x_0=a+b i$ ?
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
yesterday




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The key problem is the initial guess. Suppose that we have the equation $sum_k=2^n k^x=-1$ where $n$ is given, any idea for $x_0=a+b i$ ?
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– Claude Leibovici
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@Claude Leibovici I've added a reply to my answer as the limit on the length of comment prevented it going here.
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– Martin Hansen
22 hours ago




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@Claude Leibovici I've added a reply to my answer as the limit on the length of comment prevented it going here.
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– Martin Hansen
22 hours ago











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Too long for a comment.



After @Martin Hansen's answer, I had a look to he zero of equation
$$f_n(x)=sum_k=1^n k^x$$
(give a lot of attention to @reuns's comment).



I used Newton method. For the base case $(n=3)$ starting with $x_0=-1+pi,i$ the iterates are



$$left(
beginarraycc
1 & -0.501820 ,+ ,3.86512 ,i \
2 & -0.487049 ,+ ,3.58176,i \
3 & -0.454116 ,+ ,3.59875 ,i \
4 & -0.454397 ,+ ,3.59817, i
endarray
right)$$



Below are given some results which could be a good start (I hope) for a deeper exploration (as @Martin Hansen suggested).
$$left(
beginarraycc
3 & -0.454397, + ,3.59817 , i \
4 & -0.625971, + ,3.12712 , i \
5 & -0.714285, + ,2.83349 , i \
6 & -0.767633, + ,2.62901 , i \
7 & -0.803209, + ,2.47644 , i \
8 & -0.828584, + ,2.35711 , i \
9 & -0.847585, + ,2.26049 , i \
10 & -0.862348, + ,2.18022 , i \
11 & -0.874153, + ,2.11212 , i \
12 & -0.883812, + ,2.05341 , i \
13 & -0.891868, + ,2.00209 , i \
14 & -0.898692, + ,1.95672 , i \
15 & -0.904551, + ,1.91623 , i \
16 & -0.909640, + ,1.87978 , i \
17 & -0.914103, + ,1.84675 , i \
18 & -0.918051, + ,1.81661 , i \
19 & -0.921571, + ,1.78897 , i \
20 & -0.924730, + ,1.76349 , i
endarray
right)$$






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  • $begingroup$
    How long did it take to you to converge to the root? (How many iterations)
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    15 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Fco.JavierLópez. It is not bad. I shall add details tomorrow morning. By the way, if I may ask, where are you located ?
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    14 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @ClaudeLeivici I'm located in Spain.
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    13 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Fco.JavierLópez. Pues, somos vecinos, amigo !
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    2 hours ago















2












$begingroup$

Too long for a comment.



After @Martin Hansen's answer, I had a look to he zero of equation
$$f_n(x)=sum_k=1^n k^x$$
(give a lot of attention to @reuns's comment).



I used Newton method. For the base case $(n=3)$ starting with $x_0=-1+pi,i$ the iterates are



$$left(
beginarraycc
1 & -0.501820 ,+ ,3.86512 ,i \
2 & -0.487049 ,+ ,3.58176,i \
3 & -0.454116 ,+ ,3.59875 ,i \
4 & -0.454397 ,+ ,3.59817, i
endarray
right)$$



Below are given some results which could be a good start (I hope) for a deeper exploration (as @Martin Hansen suggested).
$$left(
beginarraycc
3 & -0.454397, + ,3.59817 , i \
4 & -0.625971, + ,3.12712 , i \
5 & -0.714285, + ,2.83349 , i \
6 & -0.767633, + ,2.62901 , i \
7 & -0.803209, + ,2.47644 , i \
8 & -0.828584, + ,2.35711 , i \
9 & -0.847585, + ,2.26049 , i \
10 & -0.862348, + ,2.18022 , i \
11 & -0.874153, + ,2.11212 , i \
12 & -0.883812, + ,2.05341 , i \
13 & -0.891868, + ,2.00209 , i \
14 & -0.898692, + ,1.95672 , i \
15 & -0.904551, + ,1.91623 , i \
16 & -0.909640, + ,1.87978 , i \
17 & -0.914103, + ,1.84675 , i \
18 & -0.918051, + ,1.81661 , i \
19 & -0.921571, + ,1.78897 , i \
20 & -0.924730, + ,1.76349 , i
endarray
right)$$






share|cite|improve this answer











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  • $begingroup$
    How long did it take to you to converge to the root? (How many iterations)
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    15 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Fco.JavierLópez. It is not bad. I shall add details tomorrow morning. By the way, if I may ask, where are you located ?
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    14 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @ClaudeLeivici I'm located in Spain.
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    13 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Fco.JavierLópez. Pues, somos vecinos, amigo !
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    2 hours ago













2












2








2





$begingroup$

Too long for a comment.



After @Martin Hansen's answer, I had a look to he zero of equation
$$f_n(x)=sum_k=1^n k^x$$
(give a lot of attention to @reuns's comment).



I used Newton method. For the base case $(n=3)$ starting with $x_0=-1+pi,i$ the iterates are



$$left(
beginarraycc
1 & -0.501820 ,+ ,3.86512 ,i \
2 & -0.487049 ,+ ,3.58176,i \
3 & -0.454116 ,+ ,3.59875 ,i \
4 & -0.454397 ,+ ,3.59817, i
endarray
right)$$



Below are given some results which could be a good start (I hope) for a deeper exploration (as @Martin Hansen suggested).
$$left(
beginarraycc
3 & -0.454397, + ,3.59817 , i \
4 & -0.625971, + ,3.12712 , i \
5 & -0.714285, + ,2.83349 , i \
6 & -0.767633, + ,2.62901 , i \
7 & -0.803209, + ,2.47644 , i \
8 & -0.828584, + ,2.35711 , i \
9 & -0.847585, + ,2.26049 , i \
10 & -0.862348, + ,2.18022 , i \
11 & -0.874153, + ,2.11212 , i \
12 & -0.883812, + ,2.05341 , i \
13 & -0.891868, + ,2.00209 , i \
14 & -0.898692, + ,1.95672 , i \
15 & -0.904551, + ,1.91623 , i \
16 & -0.909640, + ,1.87978 , i \
17 & -0.914103, + ,1.84675 , i \
18 & -0.918051, + ,1.81661 , i \
19 & -0.921571, + ,1.78897 , i \
20 & -0.924730, + ,1.76349 , i
endarray
right)$$






share|cite|improve this answer











$endgroup$



Too long for a comment.



After @Martin Hansen's answer, I had a look to he zero of equation
$$f_n(x)=sum_k=1^n k^x$$
(give a lot of attention to @reuns's comment).



I used Newton method. For the base case $(n=3)$ starting with $x_0=-1+pi,i$ the iterates are



$$left(
beginarraycc
1 & -0.501820 ,+ ,3.86512 ,i \
2 & -0.487049 ,+ ,3.58176,i \
3 & -0.454116 ,+ ,3.59875 ,i \
4 & -0.454397 ,+ ,3.59817, i
endarray
right)$$



Below are given some results which could be a good start (I hope) for a deeper exploration (as @Martin Hansen suggested).
$$left(
beginarraycc
3 & -0.454397, + ,3.59817 , i \
4 & -0.625971, + ,3.12712 , i \
5 & -0.714285, + ,2.83349 , i \
6 & -0.767633, + ,2.62901 , i \
7 & -0.803209, + ,2.47644 , i \
8 & -0.828584, + ,2.35711 , i \
9 & -0.847585, + ,2.26049 , i \
10 & -0.862348, + ,2.18022 , i \
11 & -0.874153, + ,2.11212 , i \
12 & -0.883812, + ,2.05341 , i \
13 & -0.891868, + ,2.00209 , i \
14 & -0.898692, + ,1.95672 , i \
15 & -0.904551, + ,1.91623 , i \
16 & -0.909640, + ,1.87978 , i \
17 & -0.914103, + ,1.84675 , i \
18 & -0.918051, + ,1.81661 , i \
19 & -0.921571, + ,1.78897 , i \
20 & -0.924730, + ,1.76349 , i
endarray
right)$$







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answered 21 hours ago









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  • $begingroup$
    How long did it take to you to converge to the root? (How many iterations)
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    15 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Fco.JavierLópez. It is not bad. I shall add details tomorrow morning. By the way, if I may ask, where are you located ?
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    14 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @ClaudeLeivici I'm located in Spain.
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    13 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Fco.JavierLópez. Pues, somos vecinos, amigo !
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    2 hours ago
















  • $begingroup$
    How long did it take to you to converge to the root? (How many iterations)
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    15 hours ago






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Fco.JavierLópez. It is not bad. I shall add details tomorrow morning. By the way, if I may ask, where are you located ?
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    14 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @ClaudeLeivici I'm located in Spain.
    $endgroup$
    – Fco. Javier López
    13 hours ago










  • $begingroup$
    @Fco.JavierLópez. Pues, somos vecinos, amigo !
    $endgroup$
    – Claude Leibovici
    2 hours ago















$begingroup$
How long did it take to you to converge to the root? (How many iterations)
$endgroup$
– Fco. Javier López
15 hours ago




$begingroup$
How long did it take to you to converge to the root? (How many iterations)
$endgroup$
– Fco. Javier López
15 hours ago




1




1




$begingroup$
@Fco.JavierLópez. It is not bad. I shall add details tomorrow morning. By the way, if I may ask, where are you located ?
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
14 hours ago




$begingroup$
@Fco.JavierLópez. It is not bad. I shall add details tomorrow morning. By the way, if I may ask, where are you located ?
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
14 hours ago












$begingroup$
@ClaudeLeivici I'm located in Spain.
$endgroup$
– Fco. Javier López
13 hours ago




$begingroup$
@ClaudeLeivici I'm located in Spain.
$endgroup$
– Fco. Javier López
13 hours ago












$begingroup$
@Fco.JavierLópez. Pues, somos vecinos, amigo !
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
2 hours ago




$begingroup$
@Fco.JavierLópez. Pues, somos vecinos, amigo !
$endgroup$
– Claude Leibovici
2 hours ago

















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