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Matrix $C in M_n(mathbbR)$ $lambda_1=lambda_2=0$ rank


Matrix rank from rank of sub matricessimilar matrices, real eigenvalues, matrix rank,Finding the rank of an non-invertible matrixRank Deficient matrixRank of a real matrixCan a matrix whose rows are linear combinations of rows of a full-rank matrix be guaranteed to be full rank?Rank of a matrix plus a numberRank of a Hermitian matrix in terms of Eigen values?Rank of matrix relatedWhy is the adjugate matrix the null matrix?













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If a have a matrix $C in M_n(mathbbR)$ with $C^2=O_n$ and $n=2k+1$ that has at least to eigenvalues equal to $0$. Can I say from this that the $rank Cleq fracn-12?$










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    You need only assume $C^2 = O$, then in fact all eigenvalues are $0$, since $C$ is nilpotent.
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    Since $C^2=0$, then $operatornameIm(C)subseteqoperatornameKer(C)$. Then $n=operatornamedimoperatornameKer(C)+operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)geq 2operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$. Since $n$ is odd and $operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$ a natural number, then $fracn-12geq operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$.
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If a have a matrix $C in M_n(mathbbR)$ with $C^2=O_n$ and $n=2k+1$ that has at least to eigenvalues equal to $0$. Can I say from this that the $rank Cleq fracn-12?$










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    $begingroup$
    You need only assume $C^2 = O$, then in fact all eigenvalues are $0$, since $C$ is nilpotent.
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    Since $C^2=0$, then $operatornameIm(C)subseteqoperatornameKer(C)$. Then $n=operatornamedimoperatornameKer(C)+operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)geq 2operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$. Since $n$ is odd and $operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$ a natural number, then $fracn-12geq operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$.
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If a have a matrix $C in M_n(mathbbR)$ with $C^2=O_n$ and $n=2k+1$ that has at least to eigenvalues equal to $0$. Can I say from this that the $rank Cleq fracn-12?$










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If a have a matrix $C in M_n(mathbbR)$ with $C^2=O_n$ and $n=2k+1$ that has at least to eigenvalues equal to $0$. Can I say from this that the $rank Cleq fracn-12?$







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    $begingroup$
    You need only assume $C^2 = O$, then in fact all eigenvalues are $0$, since $C$ is nilpotent.
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    – Minus One-Twelfth
    Mar 17 at 12:46







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    $begingroup$
    Since $C^2=0$, then $operatornameIm(C)subseteqoperatornameKer(C)$. Then $n=operatornamedimoperatornameKer(C)+operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)geq 2operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$. Since $n$ is odd and $operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$ a natural number, then $fracn-12geq operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$.
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    $begingroup$
    You need only assume $C^2 = O$, then in fact all eigenvalues are $0$, since $C$ is nilpotent.
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    – Minus One-Twelfth
    Mar 17 at 12:46







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Since $C^2=0$, then $operatornameIm(C)subseteqoperatornameKer(C)$. Then $n=operatornamedimoperatornameKer(C)+operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)geq 2operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$. Since $n$ is odd and $operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$ a natural number, then $fracn-12geq operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$.
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You need only assume $C^2 = O$, then in fact all eigenvalues are $0$, since $C$ is nilpotent.
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You need only assume $C^2 = O$, then in fact all eigenvalues are $0$, since $C$ is nilpotent.
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– Minus One-Twelfth
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$begingroup$
Since $C^2=0$, then $operatornameIm(C)subseteqoperatornameKer(C)$. Then $n=operatornamedimoperatornameKer(C)+operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)geq 2operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$. Since $n$ is odd and $operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$ a natural number, then $fracn-12geq operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$.
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$begingroup$
Since $C^2=0$, then $operatornameIm(C)subseteqoperatornameKer(C)$. Then $n=operatornamedimoperatornameKer(C)+operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)geq 2operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$. Since $n$ is odd and $operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$ a natural number, then $fracn-12geq operatornamedimoperatornameIm(C)$.
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    $newcommandrankoperatornameranknewcommandnullityoperatornamenullitynewcommandcmathbfcnewcommandmathbf0$Yes. Hints: You want to show that $rank(C)le k$. Let the columns of $C$ be $c_1,ldots,c_n$. Then since $C^2 = O$, we have $Cc_j = $ for all $j=1,ldots, n$. Now suppose by way of contradiction that $rank(C) > k$. Then since (by the rank-nullity theorem) $$nullity(C) = 2k+1-rank(C),$$ we have $$nullity(C) < 2k+1-k = k+1 Rightarrow nullity(C) le k.$$ But the columns of $C$ are all from the null space of $C$ and $rank(C) > k$. In view of the above, can you explain why this is impossible?






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      $newcommandrankoperatornameranknewcommandnullityoperatornamenullitynewcommandcmathbfcnewcommandmathbf0$Yes. Hints: You want to show that $rank(C)le k$. Let the columns of $C$ be $c_1,ldots,c_n$. Then since $C^2 = O$, we have $Cc_j = $ for all $j=1,ldots, n$. Now suppose by way of contradiction that $rank(C) > k$. Then since (by the rank-nullity theorem) $$nullity(C) = 2k+1-rank(C),$$ we have $$nullity(C) < 2k+1-k = k+1 Rightarrow nullity(C) le k.$$ But the columns of $C$ are all from the null space of $C$ and $rank(C) > k$. In view of the above, can you explain why this is impossible?






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        $newcommandrankoperatornameranknewcommandnullityoperatornamenullitynewcommandcmathbfcnewcommandmathbf0$Yes. Hints: You want to show that $rank(C)le k$. Let the columns of $C$ be $c_1,ldots,c_n$. Then since $C^2 = O$, we have $Cc_j = $ for all $j=1,ldots, n$. Now suppose by way of contradiction that $rank(C) > k$. Then since (by the rank-nullity theorem) $$nullity(C) = 2k+1-rank(C),$$ we have $$nullity(C) < 2k+1-k = k+1 Rightarrow nullity(C) le k.$$ But the columns of $C$ are all from the null space of $C$ and $rank(C) > k$. In view of the above, can you explain why this is impossible?






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        $newcommandrankoperatornameranknewcommandnullityoperatornamenullitynewcommandcmathbfcnewcommandmathbf0$Yes. Hints: You want to show that $rank(C)le k$. Let the columns of $C$ be $c_1,ldots,c_n$. Then since $C^2 = O$, we have $Cc_j = $ for all $j=1,ldots, n$. Now suppose by way of contradiction that $rank(C) > k$. Then since (by the rank-nullity theorem) $$nullity(C) = 2k+1-rank(C),$$ we have $$nullity(C) < 2k+1-k = k+1 Rightarrow nullity(C) le k.$$ But the columns of $C$ are all from the null space of $C$ and $rank(C) > k$. In view of the above, can you explain why this is impossible?







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