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Number of ways in which we can select non-intersecting couples from $n$ elements



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 17/18, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Number of ways of choosing $m$ objects with replacement from $n$ objectsWhat is the formula for combinations with identical elements?Number of ways of sorting distinct elements into 4 setsHow many ways of selecting from identical pairs?From set with n elements how many ways to select two disjoint subsets of size k and r?Permutations/combinations, number of elements and waysFind the number of ways of choosing $r$ non-overlapping consecutive pairs of integers from the set $S=1,2, …, n$.How many ways can $N$ different people select from $k$ different options such that no two people select the same option and $k>N$?Number of ways to select subsets from a set of equal elements that have difference between partitions as 0Number of ways to insert $kin[n]$ identical elements to two $n$ long lists










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While i was doing an Olympiad problem, i managed to reduce it to this one with a bijection, but now i don't know what to do:




Suppose we have $n$ objects ordered in a line. In how many ways I can select a subset of non-intersecting couples composed by consecutive elements?




For example in the sequence $12345$ the answer is $7$:



$12\ 23 \ 34 \ 45 \ 12,34 \ 12,45 \ 23,45 $



There is also a generalization that may be helpful:




Suppose we have $n$ objects ordered in a line. In how many ways I can select a subset $A$ (with $|A|leq k$ where k is a given integer) of non-intersecting $j$-ples composed by consecutive elements?




I would be happy even if you help me just with the first one. Thank you :)










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    While i was doing an Olympiad problem, i managed to reduce it to this one with a bijection, but now i don't know what to do:




    Suppose we have $n$ objects ordered in a line. In how many ways I can select a subset of non-intersecting couples composed by consecutive elements?




    For example in the sequence $12345$ the answer is $7$:



    $12\ 23 \ 34 \ 45 \ 12,34 \ 12,45 \ 23,45 $



    There is also a generalization that may be helpful:




    Suppose we have $n$ objects ordered in a line. In how many ways I can select a subset $A$ (with $|A|leq k$ where k is a given integer) of non-intersecting $j$-ples composed by consecutive elements?




    I would be happy even if you help me just with the first one. Thank you :)










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      While i was doing an Olympiad problem, i managed to reduce it to this one with a bijection, but now i don't know what to do:




      Suppose we have $n$ objects ordered in a line. In how many ways I can select a subset of non-intersecting couples composed by consecutive elements?




      For example in the sequence $12345$ the answer is $7$:



      $12\ 23 \ 34 \ 45 \ 12,34 \ 12,45 \ 23,45 $



      There is also a generalization that may be helpful:




      Suppose we have $n$ objects ordered in a line. In how many ways I can select a subset $A$ (with $|A|leq k$ where k is a given integer) of non-intersecting $j$-ples composed by consecutive elements?




      I would be happy even if you help me just with the first one. Thank you :)










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      While i was doing an Olympiad problem, i managed to reduce it to this one with a bijection, but now i don't know what to do:




      Suppose we have $n$ objects ordered in a line. In how many ways I can select a subset of non-intersecting couples composed by consecutive elements?




      For example in the sequence $12345$ the answer is $7$:



      $12\ 23 \ 34 \ 45 \ 12,34 \ 12,45 \ 23,45 $



      There is also a generalization that may be helpful:




      Suppose we have $n$ objects ordered in a line. In how many ways I can select a subset $A$ (with $|A|leq k$ where k is a given integer) of non-intersecting $j$-ples composed by consecutive elements?




      I would be happy even if you help me just with the first one. Thank you :)







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          Do you allow the empty subset? If so, the answer is $F_n+1$, the $(n+1)^st$ Fibonacci number. If not, then subtract one from this.



          You can prove this by induction. If $a_n$ is the number of ways to select the couples (allowing the empty selection), then $a_n=a_n-1+ a_n-2$, which follows by considering whether or not the rightmost object, $n$, is in one of the chosen couples.






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            Stunning work :)
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            The comment about the empty subset is the subtle bit here. :) $F_5 = 7$ is not a Fibonacci number, after all. And if one tries to write the recursion using $b_n$ which doesn't include the empty subset, one gets $b_n = b_n-1 + (b_n-2 colorred+ 1)$ which is of course a shifted Fibonacci but may be less obvious.
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          Do you allow the empty subset? If so, the answer is $F_n+1$, the $(n+1)^st$ Fibonacci number. If not, then subtract one from this.



          You can prove this by induction. If $a_n$ is the number of ways to select the couples (allowing the empty selection), then $a_n=a_n-1+ a_n-2$, which follows by considering whether or not the rightmost object, $n$, is in one of the chosen couples.






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            Stunning work :)
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            – Eureka
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          • $begingroup$
            The comment about the empty subset is the subtle bit here. :) $F_5 = 7$ is not a Fibonacci number, after all. And if one tries to write the recursion using $b_n$ which doesn't include the empty subset, one gets $b_n = b_n-1 + (b_n-2 colorred+ 1)$ which is of course a shifted Fibonacci but may be less obvious.
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          $begingroup$

          Do you allow the empty subset? If so, the answer is $F_n+1$, the $(n+1)^st$ Fibonacci number. If not, then subtract one from this.



          You can prove this by induction. If $a_n$ is the number of ways to select the couples (allowing the empty selection), then $a_n=a_n-1+ a_n-2$, which follows by considering whether or not the rightmost object, $n$, is in one of the chosen couples.






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            Stunning work :)
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          • $begingroup$
            The comment about the empty subset is the subtle bit here. :) $F_5 = 7$ is not a Fibonacci number, after all. And if one tries to write the recursion using $b_n$ which doesn't include the empty subset, one gets $b_n = b_n-1 + (b_n-2 colorred+ 1)$ which is of course a shifted Fibonacci but may be less obvious.
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          $begingroup$

          Do you allow the empty subset? If so, the answer is $F_n+1$, the $(n+1)^st$ Fibonacci number. If not, then subtract one from this.



          You can prove this by induction. If $a_n$ is the number of ways to select the couples (allowing the empty selection), then $a_n=a_n-1+ a_n-2$, which follows by considering whether or not the rightmost object, $n$, is in one of the chosen couples.






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          Do you allow the empty subset? If so, the answer is $F_n+1$, the $(n+1)^st$ Fibonacci number. If not, then subtract one from this.



          You can prove this by induction. If $a_n$ is the number of ways to select the couples (allowing the empty selection), then $a_n=a_n-1+ a_n-2$, which follows by considering whether or not the rightmost object, $n$, is in one of the chosen couples.







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            Stunning work :)
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            – Eureka
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          • $begingroup$
            The comment about the empty subset is the subtle bit here. :) $F_5 = 7$ is not a Fibonacci number, after all. And if one tries to write the recursion using $b_n$ which doesn't include the empty subset, one gets $b_n = b_n-1 + (b_n-2 colorred+ 1)$ which is of course a shifted Fibonacci but may be less obvious.
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          • $begingroup$
            Stunning work :)
            $endgroup$
            – Eureka
            Mar 25 at 20:47










          • $begingroup$
            The comment about the empty subset is the subtle bit here. :) $F_5 = 7$ is not a Fibonacci number, after all. And if one tries to write the recursion using $b_n$ which doesn't include the empty subset, one gets $b_n = b_n-1 + (b_n-2 colorred+ 1)$ which is of course a shifted Fibonacci but may be less obvious.
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          $begingroup$
          Stunning work :)
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          $begingroup$
          Stunning work :)
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          $begingroup$
          The comment about the empty subset is the subtle bit here. :) $F_5 = 7$ is not a Fibonacci number, after all. And if one tries to write the recursion using $b_n$ which doesn't include the empty subset, one gets $b_n = b_n-1 + (b_n-2 colorred+ 1)$ which is of course a shifted Fibonacci but may be less obvious.
          $endgroup$
          – antkam
          Mar 26 at 14:20




          $begingroup$
          The comment about the empty subset is the subtle bit here. :) $F_5 = 7$ is not a Fibonacci number, after all. And if one tries to write the recursion using $b_n$ which doesn't include the empty subset, one gets $b_n = b_n-1 + (b_n-2 colorred+ 1)$ which is of course a shifted Fibonacci but may be less obvious.
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