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Nontrivial example of continuous function from $mathbb Rtomathbb R^omega$ with box topology on $mathbb R^omega$


How to prove that $mathbb R^omega$ with the box topology is completely regularDoes the given $h$ exhibit the homeomorphism between $mathbbR^omega$ and itself with box topologies?Find the closure of $mathbbR^infty$ in $mathbbR^omega$ under the box topologyGive an example of a function $f :X to Y$ which is sequential continuous but not continuous where $X$ and $Y$ are some topological spaces.Question about continuity in the box topologyCoordinate functions on the box topology are not necessarily continuous?Continuity on Box TopologyFundamental problem about weak topology (remain a continuous function)Showing the $ell^2$ topology is different from the Box topologyExample of continuous bijective function s.t. the inverse in not continuous.













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Nontrivial example of a continuous function from $mathbb Rto mathbb R^omega$ with box topology on $mathbb R^omega$ and usual topology on the domain.




I can give some trivial example like



$f(t)=(t,t,t,....,t,0,0,0,0,0,0,....)$



Like which are continuous. I had proved many nice functions with infinite coordinate need not remain continuous in this setting like



$g(t)=(t,t,t,........)$



So I am interested in finding an example which has non-trivial infinite coordiante and continuous.



I think such function will not exist because we make some setting to arrive at contradiction as in box topology we have much freedom.



Is such a function exist? Please Give me some suggestion.



Any Help will be appreciated










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    Nontrivial example of a continuous function from $mathbb Rto mathbb R^omega$ with box topology on $mathbb R^omega$ and usual topology on the domain.




    I can give some trivial example like



    $f(t)=(t,t,t,....,t,0,0,0,0,0,0,....)$



    Like which are continuous. I had proved many nice functions with infinite coordinate need not remain continuous in this setting like



    $g(t)=(t,t,t,........)$



    So I am interested in finding an example which has non-trivial infinite coordiante and continuous.



    I think such function will not exist because we make some setting to arrive at contradiction as in box topology we have much freedom.



    Is such a function exist? Please Give me some suggestion.



    Any Help will be appreciated










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      Nontrivial example of a continuous function from $mathbb Rto mathbb R^omega$ with box topology on $mathbb R^omega$ and usual topology on the domain.




      I can give some trivial example like



      $f(t)=(t,t,t,....,t,0,0,0,0,0,0,....)$



      Like which are continuous. I had proved many nice functions with infinite coordinate need not remain continuous in this setting like



      $g(t)=(t,t,t,........)$



      So I am interested in finding an example which has non-trivial infinite coordiante and continuous.



      I think such function will not exist because we make some setting to arrive at contradiction as in box topology we have much freedom.



      Is such a function exist? Please Give me some suggestion.



      Any Help will be appreciated










      share|cite|improve this question











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      Nontrivial example of a continuous function from $mathbb Rto mathbb R^omega$ with box topology on $mathbb R^omega$ and usual topology on the domain.




      I can give some trivial example like



      $f(t)=(t,t,t,....,t,0,0,0,0,0,0,....)$



      Like which are continuous. I had proved many nice functions with infinite coordinate need not remain continuous in this setting like



      $g(t)=(t,t,t,........)$



      So I am interested in finding an example which has non-trivial infinite coordiante and continuous.



      I think such function will not exist because we make some setting to arrive at contradiction as in box topology we have much freedom.



      Is such a function exist? Please Give me some suggestion.



      Any Help will be appreciated







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          In a suitable sense, there is no nontrivial such function - for every continuous function $f:mathbb Rtomathbb R^omega$ and any $t_0inmathbb R$, there is an open interval containing $t_0$ on which $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. Therefore, every function is "glued" out of functions which are constant on almost all coordinates.



          Indeed, suppose this is not the case. For simplicity, let me assume $t_0=0$ and $f(0)=(0,0,dots)$. If the claimed conclusion doesn't hold, then for any $ninmathbb N$ we can find $x_ninmathbb R,|x_n|<1/n$ and $j_ninmathbb N,j_n>n$ such that the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$, call it $a_n$, is nonzero. Further, we may assume $j_n$ are distinct. Consider now the set
          $$U=prod_k=1^infty(-b_k,b_k)$$
          where $b_k=|a_n|$ if $k=j_n$ and $b_k=1$ otherwise. Then $U$ is open in the box topology, but $f^-1(U)$ is not open - it clearly contains $0$, but it contains none of $x_n$, since the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$ is not in $(-b_j_n,b_j_n)=(-|a_n|,|a_n|)$. Therefore $f$ is not continuous.



          Note that the assumptions as I have written them are necessary - we can only conclude that locally $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. This need not be true globally , consider for instance $f_n(t) = max(0,t-n)$ and $f(t)=(f_1(t),f_2(t),dots)$. This $f$ is continuous for $mathbb R^omega$ in the box topology, but none of its coordinates is constant. (see Paul Frost's other answer for a proof)






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            endcases
            $$

            These are non-constant continuous functions. For each $x$ we have $f_n(x) = 0$ for all $n ge x$.



            Now consider $f(x) = (f_1(x),f_2(x), dots)$. Let $xi in mathbbR$ and $U$ be an open neigborhood of $f(xi)$ in the box topology. We have $xi in prod_n U_n subset U$ with suitable open neigborhoods $U_n$ of $f_n(xi)$ in $mathbbR$. The $V_n = f_n^-1(U_n)$ are open neighborhoods of $xi$. Choose a positive integer $m > xi$. Then $V = bigcap_n=1^m V_n cap (-infty,m)$ is an open neigborhhod of $xi$. For $x in V$ we have $f_n(x) in f(V) subset f(V_n) subset U_n$ if $n le m$ and $f_n(x) = 0 = f_n(xi) in U_n$ if $n ge m$ (note $x,xi < m$). Hence $f(V) subset U$.






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              In a suitable sense, there is no nontrivial such function - for every continuous function $f:mathbb Rtomathbb R^omega$ and any $t_0inmathbb R$, there is an open interval containing $t_0$ on which $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. Therefore, every function is "glued" out of functions which are constant on almost all coordinates.



              Indeed, suppose this is not the case. For simplicity, let me assume $t_0=0$ and $f(0)=(0,0,dots)$. If the claimed conclusion doesn't hold, then for any $ninmathbb N$ we can find $x_ninmathbb R,|x_n|<1/n$ and $j_ninmathbb N,j_n>n$ such that the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$, call it $a_n$, is nonzero. Further, we may assume $j_n$ are distinct. Consider now the set
              $$U=prod_k=1^infty(-b_k,b_k)$$
              where $b_k=|a_n|$ if $k=j_n$ and $b_k=1$ otherwise. Then $U$ is open in the box topology, but $f^-1(U)$ is not open - it clearly contains $0$, but it contains none of $x_n$, since the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$ is not in $(-b_j_n,b_j_n)=(-|a_n|,|a_n|)$. Therefore $f$ is not continuous.



              Note that the assumptions as I have written them are necessary - we can only conclude that locally $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. This need not be true globally , consider for instance $f_n(t) = max(0,t-n)$ and $f(t)=(f_1(t),f_2(t),dots)$. This $f$ is continuous for $mathbb R^omega$ in the box topology, but none of its coordinates is constant. (see Paul Frost's other answer for a proof)






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                In a suitable sense, there is no nontrivial such function - for every continuous function $f:mathbb Rtomathbb R^omega$ and any $t_0inmathbb R$, there is an open interval containing $t_0$ on which $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. Therefore, every function is "glued" out of functions which are constant on almost all coordinates.



                Indeed, suppose this is not the case. For simplicity, let me assume $t_0=0$ and $f(0)=(0,0,dots)$. If the claimed conclusion doesn't hold, then for any $ninmathbb N$ we can find $x_ninmathbb R,|x_n|<1/n$ and $j_ninmathbb N,j_n>n$ such that the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$, call it $a_n$, is nonzero. Further, we may assume $j_n$ are distinct. Consider now the set
                $$U=prod_k=1^infty(-b_k,b_k)$$
                where $b_k=|a_n|$ if $k=j_n$ and $b_k=1$ otherwise. Then $U$ is open in the box topology, but $f^-1(U)$ is not open - it clearly contains $0$, but it contains none of $x_n$, since the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$ is not in $(-b_j_n,b_j_n)=(-|a_n|,|a_n|)$. Therefore $f$ is not continuous.



                Note that the assumptions as I have written them are necessary - we can only conclude that locally $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. This need not be true globally , consider for instance $f_n(t) = max(0,t-n)$ and $f(t)=(f_1(t),f_2(t),dots)$. This $f$ is continuous for $mathbb R^omega$ in the box topology, but none of its coordinates is constant. (see Paul Frost's other answer for a proof)






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                  In a suitable sense, there is no nontrivial such function - for every continuous function $f:mathbb Rtomathbb R^omega$ and any $t_0inmathbb R$, there is an open interval containing $t_0$ on which $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. Therefore, every function is "glued" out of functions which are constant on almost all coordinates.



                  Indeed, suppose this is not the case. For simplicity, let me assume $t_0=0$ and $f(0)=(0,0,dots)$. If the claimed conclusion doesn't hold, then for any $ninmathbb N$ we can find $x_ninmathbb R,|x_n|<1/n$ and $j_ninmathbb N,j_n>n$ such that the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$, call it $a_n$, is nonzero. Further, we may assume $j_n$ are distinct. Consider now the set
                  $$U=prod_k=1^infty(-b_k,b_k)$$
                  where $b_k=|a_n|$ if $k=j_n$ and $b_k=1$ otherwise. Then $U$ is open in the box topology, but $f^-1(U)$ is not open - it clearly contains $0$, but it contains none of $x_n$, since the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$ is not in $(-b_j_n,b_j_n)=(-|a_n|,|a_n|)$. Therefore $f$ is not continuous.



                  Note that the assumptions as I have written them are necessary - we can only conclude that locally $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. This need not be true globally , consider for instance $f_n(t) = max(0,t-n)$ and $f(t)=(f_1(t),f_2(t),dots)$. This $f$ is continuous for $mathbb R^omega$ in the box topology, but none of its coordinates is constant. (see Paul Frost's other answer for a proof)






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                  In a suitable sense, there is no nontrivial such function - for every continuous function $f:mathbb Rtomathbb R^omega$ and any $t_0inmathbb R$, there is an open interval containing $t_0$ on which $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. Therefore, every function is "glued" out of functions which are constant on almost all coordinates.



                  Indeed, suppose this is not the case. For simplicity, let me assume $t_0=0$ and $f(0)=(0,0,dots)$. If the claimed conclusion doesn't hold, then for any $ninmathbb N$ we can find $x_ninmathbb R,|x_n|<1/n$ and $j_ninmathbb N,j_n>n$ such that the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$, call it $a_n$, is nonzero. Further, we may assume $j_n$ are distinct. Consider now the set
                  $$U=prod_k=1^infty(-b_k,b_k)$$
                  where $b_k=|a_n|$ if $k=j_n$ and $b_k=1$ otherwise. Then $U$ is open in the box topology, but $f^-1(U)$ is not open - it clearly contains $0$, but it contains none of $x_n$, since the $j_n$-th coordinate of $f(x_n)$ is not in $(-b_j_n,b_j_n)=(-|a_n|,|a_n|)$. Therefore $f$ is not continuous.



                  Note that the assumptions as I have written them are necessary - we can only conclude that locally $f$ is constant on all but finitely many coordinates. This need not be true globally , consider for instance $f_n(t) = max(0,t-n)$ and $f(t)=(f_1(t),f_2(t),dots)$. This $f$ is continuous for $mathbb R^omega$ in the box topology, but none of its coordinates is constant. (see Paul Frost's other answer for a proof)







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                      For $n in mathbbN$ define
                      $$f_n : mathbbR to mathbbR, f_n(x) =
                      begincases
                      0 & x le n \
                      x-n & x ge n
                      endcases
                      $$

                      These are non-constant continuous functions. For each $x$ we have $f_n(x) = 0$ for all $n ge x$.



                      Now consider $f(x) = (f_1(x),f_2(x), dots)$. Let $xi in mathbbR$ and $U$ be an open neigborhood of $f(xi)$ in the box topology. We have $xi in prod_n U_n subset U$ with suitable open neigborhoods $U_n$ of $f_n(xi)$ in $mathbbR$. The $V_n = f_n^-1(U_n)$ are open neighborhoods of $xi$. Choose a positive integer $m > xi$. Then $V = bigcap_n=1^m V_n cap (-infty,m)$ is an open neigborhhod of $xi$. For $x in V$ we have $f_n(x) in f(V) subset f(V_n) subset U_n$ if $n le m$ and $f_n(x) = 0 = f_n(xi) in U_n$ if $n ge m$ (note $x,xi < m$). Hence $f(V) subset U$.






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                        For $n in mathbbN$ define
                        $$f_n : mathbbR to mathbbR, f_n(x) =
                        begincases
                        0 & x le n \
                        x-n & x ge n
                        endcases
                        $$

                        These are non-constant continuous functions. For each $x$ we have $f_n(x) = 0$ for all $n ge x$.



                        Now consider $f(x) = (f_1(x),f_2(x), dots)$. Let $xi in mathbbR$ and $U$ be an open neigborhood of $f(xi)$ in the box topology. We have $xi in prod_n U_n subset U$ with suitable open neigborhoods $U_n$ of $f_n(xi)$ in $mathbbR$. The $V_n = f_n^-1(U_n)$ are open neighborhoods of $xi$. Choose a positive integer $m > xi$. Then $V = bigcap_n=1^m V_n cap (-infty,m)$ is an open neigborhhod of $xi$. For $x in V$ we have $f_n(x) in f(V) subset f(V_n) subset U_n$ if $n le m$ and $f_n(x) = 0 = f_n(xi) in U_n$ if $n ge m$ (note $x,xi < m$). Hence $f(V) subset U$.






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                          $$f_n : mathbbR to mathbbR, f_n(x) =
                          begincases
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                          x-n & x ge n
                          endcases
                          $$

                          These are non-constant continuous functions. For each $x$ we have $f_n(x) = 0$ for all $n ge x$.



                          Now consider $f(x) = (f_1(x),f_2(x), dots)$. Let $xi in mathbbR$ and $U$ be an open neigborhood of $f(xi)$ in the box topology. We have $xi in prod_n U_n subset U$ with suitable open neigborhoods $U_n$ of $f_n(xi)$ in $mathbbR$. The $V_n = f_n^-1(U_n)$ are open neighborhoods of $xi$. Choose a positive integer $m > xi$. Then $V = bigcap_n=1^m V_n cap (-infty,m)$ is an open neigborhhod of $xi$. For $x in V$ we have $f_n(x) in f(V) subset f(V_n) subset U_n$ if $n le m$ and $f_n(x) = 0 = f_n(xi) in U_n$ if $n ge m$ (note $x,xi < m$). Hence $f(V) subset U$.






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                          For $n in mathbbN$ define
                          $$f_n : mathbbR to mathbbR, f_n(x) =
                          begincases
                          0 & x le n \
                          x-n & x ge n
                          endcases
                          $$

                          These are non-constant continuous functions. For each $x$ we have $f_n(x) = 0$ for all $n ge x$.



                          Now consider $f(x) = (f_1(x),f_2(x), dots)$. Let $xi in mathbbR$ and $U$ be an open neigborhood of $f(xi)$ in the box topology. We have $xi in prod_n U_n subset U$ with suitable open neigborhoods $U_n$ of $f_n(xi)$ in $mathbbR$. The $V_n = f_n^-1(U_n)$ are open neighborhoods of $xi$. Choose a positive integer $m > xi$. Then $V = bigcap_n=1^m V_n cap (-infty,m)$ is an open neigborhhod of $xi$. For $x in V$ we have $f_n(x) in f(V) subset f(V_n) subset U_n$ if $n le m$ and $f_n(x) = 0 = f_n(xi) in U_n$ if $n ge m$ (note $x,xi < m$). Hence $f(V) subset U$.







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