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Equivalence of codes defines a symmetric relation


Binary codes behaving differently from other codes?Knuth equivalence of unshufflesCycles “converging” to an infinite cycle?Permutation that gives a sequence of non-negative partial sumsBlocks in permutation group theory (D&F)Factorizations in the symmetric groupHow do I form a group of permutations and determine the multiplication table for the group?Generator polynomial of the sum of cyclic codesNumber of deranged indicesAn algorithm on $S_n$. What is the final permutation?













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Two codes $C_1, C_2 subseteq A^n$ are called equivalent (notation: $sim$) if there are permutations $pi in Sym(A)$ and $sigma_1, dots, sigma_n in S_n$ such that



$$C_2 = (sigma_1(a_pi(1)), dots, sigma_n(a_pi(n))) mid (a_1, dots, a_n ) in C_1$$



Intuitively, this means that we can permute the order of the symbols in our code words, and subsequently permute the alphabet $A$ on every single position on everyy word.



The text I'm reading mentions without proof that $sim$ defines an equivalence relation, but I do not succeed in proving this.



In particular, I'm stuck at showing that



$$C_1 sim C_2 implies C_2 sim C_1$$



I tried with a little example:



if we have the code $C_1 := 00000,01101,10110,11011 subseteq 0,1^5$ and we perform $pi = (12)(345)$ and $sigma_3 = sigma_4 = 1$, $sigma_1 = sigma_2 = sigma_5 neq 1$, then we get the code $C_2 = 11001,01111,10010,00100$



To get back to $C_1$, we have to apply $pi' = (21543)$ and $sigma_2' = sigma_3' = 1$ and $sigma_1' = sigma_4' = sigma_5' neq 1$. I don't see a relation between the permutations $pi, sigma_i$ and $pi', sigma_j$ that can help me.



How can I show that this relation is symmetric?










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    $begingroup$


    Two codes $C_1, C_2 subseteq A^n$ are called equivalent (notation: $sim$) if there are permutations $pi in Sym(A)$ and $sigma_1, dots, sigma_n in S_n$ such that



    $$C_2 = (sigma_1(a_pi(1)), dots, sigma_n(a_pi(n))) mid (a_1, dots, a_n ) in C_1$$



    Intuitively, this means that we can permute the order of the symbols in our code words, and subsequently permute the alphabet $A$ on every single position on everyy word.



    The text I'm reading mentions without proof that $sim$ defines an equivalence relation, but I do not succeed in proving this.



    In particular, I'm stuck at showing that



    $$C_1 sim C_2 implies C_2 sim C_1$$



    I tried with a little example:



    if we have the code $C_1 := 00000,01101,10110,11011 subseteq 0,1^5$ and we perform $pi = (12)(345)$ and $sigma_3 = sigma_4 = 1$, $sigma_1 = sigma_2 = sigma_5 neq 1$, then we get the code $C_2 = 11001,01111,10010,00100$



    To get back to $C_1$, we have to apply $pi' = (21543)$ and $sigma_2' = sigma_3' = 1$ and $sigma_1' = sigma_4' = sigma_5' neq 1$. I don't see a relation between the permutations $pi, sigma_i$ and $pi', sigma_j$ that can help me.



    How can I show that this relation is symmetric?










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      Two codes $C_1, C_2 subseteq A^n$ are called equivalent (notation: $sim$) if there are permutations $pi in Sym(A)$ and $sigma_1, dots, sigma_n in S_n$ such that



      $$C_2 = (sigma_1(a_pi(1)), dots, sigma_n(a_pi(n))) mid (a_1, dots, a_n ) in C_1$$



      Intuitively, this means that we can permute the order of the symbols in our code words, and subsequently permute the alphabet $A$ on every single position on everyy word.



      The text I'm reading mentions without proof that $sim$ defines an equivalence relation, but I do not succeed in proving this.



      In particular, I'm stuck at showing that



      $$C_1 sim C_2 implies C_2 sim C_1$$



      I tried with a little example:



      if we have the code $C_1 := 00000,01101,10110,11011 subseteq 0,1^5$ and we perform $pi = (12)(345)$ and $sigma_3 = sigma_4 = 1$, $sigma_1 = sigma_2 = sigma_5 neq 1$, then we get the code $C_2 = 11001,01111,10010,00100$



      To get back to $C_1$, we have to apply $pi' = (21543)$ and $sigma_2' = sigma_3' = 1$ and $sigma_1' = sigma_4' = sigma_5' neq 1$. I don't see a relation between the permutations $pi, sigma_i$ and $pi', sigma_j$ that can help me.



      How can I show that this relation is symmetric?










      share|cite|improve this question











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      Two codes $C_1, C_2 subseteq A^n$ are called equivalent (notation: $sim$) if there are permutations $pi in Sym(A)$ and $sigma_1, dots, sigma_n in S_n$ such that



      $$C_2 = (sigma_1(a_pi(1)), dots, sigma_n(a_pi(n))) mid (a_1, dots, a_n ) in C_1$$



      Intuitively, this means that we can permute the order of the symbols in our code words, and subsequently permute the alphabet $A$ on every single position on everyy word.



      The text I'm reading mentions without proof that $sim$ defines an equivalence relation, but I do not succeed in proving this.



      In particular, I'm stuck at showing that



      $$C_1 sim C_2 implies C_2 sim C_1$$



      I tried with a little example:



      if we have the code $C_1 := 00000,01101,10110,11011 subseteq 0,1^5$ and we perform $pi = (12)(345)$ and $sigma_3 = sigma_4 = 1$, $sigma_1 = sigma_2 = sigma_5 neq 1$, then we get the code $C_2 = 11001,01111,10010,00100$



      To get back to $C_1$, we have to apply $pi' = (21543)$ and $sigma_2' = sigma_3' = 1$ and $sigma_1' = sigma_4' = sigma_5' neq 1$. I don't see a relation between the permutations $pi, sigma_i$ and $pi', sigma_j$ that can help me.



      How can I show that this relation is symmetric?







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          It is easy to check that (show that the right side is contained in the left side and then use that both sides have equal finite order)



          $$C_1 = (sigma^-1_pi^-1(1)(a_pi^-1(1))), dots, (sigma^-1_pi^-1(a_pi^-1(n)))mid (a_1, dots, a_n) in C_2$$



          and the symmetry follows.






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            Answering my own question:



            It is easy to check that (show that the right side is contained in the left side and then use that both sides have equal finite order)



            $$C_1 = (sigma^-1_pi^-1(1)(a_pi^-1(1))), dots, (sigma^-1_pi^-1(a_pi^-1(n)))mid (a_1, dots, a_n) in C_2$$



            and the symmetry follows.






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              Answering my own question:



              It is easy to check that (show that the right side is contained in the left side and then use that both sides have equal finite order)



              $$C_1 = (sigma^-1_pi^-1(1)(a_pi^-1(1))), dots, (sigma^-1_pi^-1(a_pi^-1(n)))mid (a_1, dots, a_n) in C_2$$



              and the symmetry follows.






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                It is easy to check that (show that the right side is contained in the left side and then use that both sides have equal finite order)



                $$C_1 = (sigma^-1_pi^-1(1)(a_pi^-1(1))), dots, (sigma^-1_pi^-1(a_pi^-1(n)))mid (a_1, dots, a_n) in C_2$$



                and the symmetry follows.






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                It is easy to check that (show that the right side is contained in the left side and then use that both sides have equal finite order)



                $$C_1 = (sigma^-1_pi^-1(1)(a_pi^-1(1))), dots, (sigma^-1_pi^-1(a_pi^-1(n)))mid (a_1, dots, a_n) in C_2$$



                and the symmetry follows.







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