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Big-$O$ verification [discrete mathematics]


Sets problem with upper boundsDiscrete Math - Logic - Implication ProblemLimit inferior and superior proof questionsDiscrete Mathematics - LogicExtend an acyclic relation to an orderingNon-homogenous linear recurrence relation reasonable TRIAL solution?Proof by Cases [discrete mathematics]Direct proof of Universal Set [discrete mathematics]Draw a pentagon with any 2 angle sums being less than $216^o$Indirect Proof [discrete mathematics]













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I've come across challenge proof question in my discrete mathematics textbook that I'm trying to solve for practice but unfortunately it does not have a solution. Any help with a reasonable explanation or solution so that I can understand where to start and verify my work would be greatly appreciated:




Suppose that $f$, $g$ and $h$ are all functions from $mathbfN$ into
$mathbfR^+$. Prove that if $f + g notin O(h)$, then either $f
> notin O(h)$
, or $g notin O(h)$ (or both).



Recall that $f in O(h)$ if and only if $exists c in mathbfR^+,
> exists n_0 in mathbfN, forall n in mathbfN, n ge n_0
> implies f(n) le ch(n)$
. We define $f + g$ to be the function such
that $(f + g)(n) = f(n) + g(n)$ for every element $n$ of $mathbfN$.




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    I've come across challenge proof question in my discrete mathematics textbook that I'm trying to solve for practice but unfortunately it does not have a solution. Any help with a reasonable explanation or solution so that I can understand where to start and verify my work would be greatly appreciated:




    Suppose that $f$, $g$ and $h$ are all functions from $mathbfN$ into
    $mathbfR^+$. Prove that if $f + g notin O(h)$, then either $f
    > notin O(h)$
    , or $g notin O(h)$ (or both).



    Recall that $f in O(h)$ if and only if $exists c in mathbfR^+,
    > exists n_0 in mathbfN, forall n in mathbfN, n ge n_0
    > implies f(n) le ch(n)$
    . We define $f + g$ to be the function such
    that $(f + g)(n) = f(n) + g(n)$ for every element $n$ of $mathbfN$.




    Thank you!










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      I've come across challenge proof question in my discrete mathematics textbook that I'm trying to solve for practice but unfortunately it does not have a solution. Any help with a reasonable explanation or solution so that I can understand where to start and verify my work would be greatly appreciated:




      Suppose that $f$, $g$ and $h$ are all functions from $mathbfN$ into
      $mathbfR^+$. Prove that if $f + g notin O(h)$, then either $f
      > notin O(h)$
      , or $g notin O(h)$ (or both).



      Recall that $f in O(h)$ if and only if $exists c in mathbfR^+,
      > exists n_0 in mathbfN, forall n in mathbfN, n ge n_0
      > implies f(n) le ch(n)$
      . We define $f + g$ to be the function such
      that $(f + g)(n) = f(n) + g(n)$ for every element $n$ of $mathbfN$.




      Thank you!










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      I've come across challenge proof question in my discrete mathematics textbook that I'm trying to solve for practice but unfortunately it does not have a solution. Any help with a reasonable explanation or solution so that I can understand where to start and verify my work would be greatly appreciated:




      Suppose that $f$, $g$ and $h$ are all functions from $mathbfN$ into
      $mathbfR^+$. Prove that if $f + g notin O(h)$, then either $f
      > notin O(h)$
      , or $g notin O(h)$ (or both).



      Recall that $f in O(h)$ if and only if $exists c in mathbfR^+,
      > exists n_0 in mathbfN, forall n in mathbfN, n ge n_0
      > implies f(n) le ch(n)$
      . We define $f + g$ to be the function such
      that $(f + g)(n) = f(n) + g(n)$ for every element $n$ of $mathbfN$.




      Thank you!







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          $f+g notin O(h)$
          means that,
          for any $c > 0$,
          there is a value of $x$
          such that
          $f(x)+g(x) > ch(x)$.



          $f in O(h)$
          means that,
          for all large enough $x$,
          there is a $c > 0$
          such that
          $f(x) < ch(x)$
          and similarly for $g$.



          If both
          $f in O(h)$ and
          $g in O(h)$
          there are
          $c_f$ and $c_g$
          such that,
          for all large enough $x$,
          $f(x) < c_fh(x)$
          and
          $g(x) < c_gh(x)$.



          Therefore,
          for all large enough $x$,
          $f(x)+g(x)
          lt (c_f+c_g)h(x)$
          ,
          so that
          $f+g in O(h)$.






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            $begingroup$

            $f+g notin O(h)$
            means that,
            for any $c > 0$,
            there is a value of $x$
            such that
            $f(x)+g(x) > ch(x)$.



            $f in O(h)$
            means that,
            for all large enough $x$,
            there is a $c > 0$
            such that
            $f(x) < ch(x)$
            and similarly for $g$.



            If both
            $f in O(h)$ and
            $g in O(h)$
            there are
            $c_f$ and $c_g$
            such that,
            for all large enough $x$,
            $f(x) < c_fh(x)$
            and
            $g(x) < c_gh(x)$.



            Therefore,
            for all large enough $x$,
            $f(x)+g(x)
            lt (c_f+c_g)h(x)$
            ,
            so that
            $f+g in O(h)$.






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              $begingroup$

              $f+g notin O(h)$
              means that,
              for any $c > 0$,
              there is a value of $x$
              such that
              $f(x)+g(x) > ch(x)$.



              $f in O(h)$
              means that,
              for all large enough $x$,
              there is a $c > 0$
              such that
              $f(x) < ch(x)$
              and similarly for $g$.



              If both
              $f in O(h)$ and
              $g in O(h)$
              there are
              $c_f$ and $c_g$
              such that,
              for all large enough $x$,
              $f(x) < c_fh(x)$
              and
              $g(x) < c_gh(x)$.



              Therefore,
              for all large enough $x$,
              $f(x)+g(x)
              lt (c_f+c_g)h(x)$
              ,
              so that
              $f+g in O(h)$.






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                $f+g notin O(h)$
                means that,
                for any $c > 0$,
                there is a value of $x$
                such that
                $f(x)+g(x) > ch(x)$.



                $f in O(h)$
                means that,
                for all large enough $x$,
                there is a $c > 0$
                such that
                $f(x) < ch(x)$
                and similarly for $g$.



                If both
                $f in O(h)$ and
                $g in O(h)$
                there are
                $c_f$ and $c_g$
                such that,
                for all large enough $x$,
                $f(x) < c_fh(x)$
                and
                $g(x) < c_gh(x)$.



                Therefore,
                for all large enough $x$,
                $f(x)+g(x)
                lt (c_f+c_g)h(x)$
                ,
                so that
                $f+g in O(h)$.






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                $f+g notin O(h)$
                means that,
                for any $c > 0$,
                there is a value of $x$
                such that
                $f(x)+g(x) > ch(x)$.



                $f in O(h)$
                means that,
                for all large enough $x$,
                there is a $c > 0$
                such that
                $f(x) < ch(x)$
                and similarly for $g$.



                If both
                $f in O(h)$ and
                $g in O(h)$
                there are
                $c_f$ and $c_g$
                such that,
                for all large enough $x$,
                $f(x) < c_fh(x)$
                and
                $g(x) < c_gh(x)$.



                Therefore,
                for all large enough $x$,
                $f(x)+g(x)
                lt (c_f+c_g)h(x)$
                ,
                so that
                $f+g in O(h)$.







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