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Pencil and fundamental group


Fundamental group of the torusProof of the existence of Lefschetz Pencils.A “trivial” implication I don't understand.Fundamental group of two Moebius bands identified on boundary circlesConnecting fundamental groups and group actionsDetails for calculating the fundamental group of mapping torusFundamental group of the $T^1 cup D^2$Van Kampen Theorem shows $pi_1(S^1 vee S^1)cong mathbbZ * mathbbZ$ and $pi_1(S^n) cong left1right$ for $ngeq 2$.Induced homomorphism between fundamental groupsThe fundamental group of the Lattice - (R x Z) U (Z x R)













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Let $f_i(x,y,z)$ be a homogeneous polynomial of degree $i$. Then for pencil $C_a,b=a(f_2)^3+b(f_3)^2$, we have a map $phi:mathbbCP^2setminus Bto mathbbCP^1$, where $B$ is the base locus of pencil $C_a,b$, and the map is given by $[x,y,z]mapsto [a,b]=[(f_3)^2(x,y,z):(f_2)^3(x,y,z)]$.



Let $C$ be the union $phi^−1(1,0)cup phi^−1(0,1)cupphi^−1 (1,1)$ and let $L$ be a line containing only smooth points of $C$ and transversal to $C$.



Then how to see the map: $pi_1(Lsetminus Lcap C)topi_1(mathbbCP^2setminus C)$ induced by inclusion is surjective? Moreover, how to compute these two fundamental groups?



I guess we can use Lefschetz hyperplane theorem to deduce the surjection. But can't go further .










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    I should also say that it can be very complicated to describe the fundamental group of $mathbbCP^2 setminus C$ where $C$ is an algebraic curve if $C$ is singular, the group will depend on the precise singularities that the curve (it is still not completely understood). However, if $C$ is a degree $d$ smooth curve in $mathbbCP^2$ then $pi_1(mathbbCP^2 setminus C) cong mathbbZ_d$
    $endgroup$
    – Nick L
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    @NickL $f_3$ has degree $3$, and $f_3^2$ has degree $6$
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    I see, I will delete my first comment.
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    – Nick L
    2 days ago















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$begingroup$


Let $f_i(x,y,z)$ be a homogeneous polynomial of degree $i$. Then for pencil $C_a,b=a(f_2)^3+b(f_3)^2$, we have a map $phi:mathbbCP^2setminus Bto mathbbCP^1$, where $B$ is the base locus of pencil $C_a,b$, and the map is given by $[x,y,z]mapsto [a,b]=[(f_3)^2(x,y,z):(f_2)^3(x,y,z)]$.



Let $C$ be the union $phi^−1(1,0)cup phi^−1(0,1)cupphi^−1 (1,1)$ and let $L$ be a line containing only smooth points of $C$ and transversal to $C$.



Then how to see the map: $pi_1(Lsetminus Lcap C)topi_1(mathbbCP^2setminus C)$ induced by inclusion is surjective? Moreover, how to compute these two fundamental groups?



I guess we can use Lefschetz hyperplane theorem to deduce the surjection. But can't go further .










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$











  • $begingroup$
    I should also say that it can be very complicated to describe the fundamental group of $mathbbCP^2 setminus C$ where $C$ is an algebraic curve if $C$ is singular, the group will depend on the precise singularities that the curve (it is still not completely understood). However, if $C$ is a degree $d$ smooth curve in $mathbbCP^2$ then $pi_1(mathbbCP^2 setminus C) cong mathbbZ_d$
    $endgroup$
    – Nick L
    2 days ago











  • $begingroup$
    @NickL $f_3$ has degree $3$, and $f_3^2$ has degree $6$
    $endgroup$
    – 6666
    2 days ago










  • $begingroup$
    I see, I will delete my first comment.
    $endgroup$
    – Nick L
    2 days ago













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$begingroup$


Let $f_i(x,y,z)$ be a homogeneous polynomial of degree $i$. Then for pencil $C_a,b=a(f_2)^3+b(f_3)^2$, we have a map $phi:mathbbCP^2setminus Bto mathbbCP^1$, where $B$ is the base locus of pencil $C_a,b$, and the map is given by $[x,y,z]mapsto [a,b]=[(f_3)^2(x,y,z):(f_2)^3(x,y,z)]$.



Let $C$ be the union $phi^−1(1,0)cup phi^−1(0,1)cupphi^−1 (1,1)$ and let $L$ be a line containing only smooth points of $C$ and transversal to $C$.



Then how to see the map: $pi_1(Lsetminus Lcap C)topi_1(mathbbCP^2setminus C)$ induced by inclusion is surjective? Moreover, how to compute these two fundamental groups?



I guess we can use Lefschetz hyperplane theorem to deduce the surjection. But can't go further .










share|cite|improve this question











$endgroup$




Let $f_i(x,y,z)$ be a homogeneous polynomial of degree $i$. Then for pencil $C_a,b=a(f_2)^3+b(f_3)^2$, we have a map $phi:mathbbCP^2setminus Bto mathbbCP^1$, where $B$ is the base locus of pencil $C_a,b$, and the map is given by $[x,y,z]mapsto [a,b]=[(f_3)^2(x,y,z):(f_2)^3(x,y,z)]$.



Let $C$ be the union $phi^−1(1,0)cup phi^−1(0,1)cupphi^−1 (1,1)$ and let $L$ be a line containing only smooth points of $C$ and transversal to $C$.



Then how to see the map: $pi_1(Lsetminus Lcap C)topi_1(mathbbCP^2setminus C)$ induced by inclusion is surjective? Moreover, how to compute these two fundamental groups?



I guess we can use Lefschetz hyperplane theorem to deduce the surjection. But can't go further .







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  • $begingroup$
    I should also say that it can be very complicated to describe the fundamental group of $mathbbCP^2 setminus C$ where $C$ is an algebraic curve if $C$ is singular, the group will depend on the precise singularities that the curve (it is still not completely understood). However, if $C$ is a degree $d$ smooth curve in $mathbbCP^2$ then $pi_1(mathbbCP^2 setminus C) cong mathbbZ_d$
    $endgroup$
    – Nick L
    2 days ago











  • $begingroup$
    @NickL $f_3$ has degree $3$, and $f_3^2$ has degree $6$
    $endgroup$
    – 6666
    2 days ago










  • $begingroup$
    I see, I will delete my first comment.
    $endgroup$
    – Nick L
    2 days ago
















  • $begingroup$
    I should also say that it can be very complicated to describe the fundamental group of $mathbbCP^2 setminus C$ where $C$ is an algebraic curve if $C$ is singular, the group will depend on the precise singularities that the curve (it is still not completely understood). However, if $C$ is a degree $d$ smooth curve in $mathbbCP^2$ then $pi_1(mathbbCP^2 setminus C) cong mathbbZ_d$
    $endgroup$
    – Nick L
    2 days ago











  • $begingroup$
    @NickL $f_3$ has degree $3$, and $f_3^2$ has degree $6$
    $endgroup$
    – 6666
    2 days ago










  • $begingroup$
    I see, I will delete my first comment.
    $endgroup$
    – Nick L
    2 days ago















$begingroup$
I should also say that it can be very complicated to describe the fundamental group of $mathbbCP^2 setminus C$ where $C$ is an algebraic curve if $C$ is singular, the group will depend on the precise singularities that the curve (it is still not completely understood). However, if $C$ is a degree $d$ smooth curve in $mathbbCP^2$ then $pi_1(mathbbCP^2 setminus C) cong mathbbZ_d$
$endgroup$
– Nick L
2 days ago





$begingroup$
I should also say that it can be very complicated to describe the fundamental group of $mathbbCP^2 setminus C$ where $C$ is an algebraic curve if $C$ is singular, the group will depend on the precise singularities that the curve (it is still not completely understood). However, if $C$ is a degree $d$ smooth curve in $mathbbCP^2$ then $pi_1(mathbbCP^2 setminus C) cong mathbbZ_d$
$endgroup$
– Nick L
2 days ago













$begingroup$
@NickL $f_3$ has degree $3$, and $f_3^2$ has degree $6$
$endgroup$
– 6666
2 days ago




$begingroup$
@NickL $f_3$ has degree $3$, and $f_3^2$ has degree $6$
$endgroup$
– 6666
2 days ago












$begingroup$
I see, I will delete my first comment.
$endgroup$
– Nick L
2 days ago




$begingroup$
I see, I will delete my first comment.
$endgroup$
– Nick L
2 days ago










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