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Composing two of three given functions to obtain $2^x+1 - 1$
Two-to-one functionsComposing Piecewise FunctionsFinding the domain of a fourth-root of an equation with a term to the fourthComposing Even and Odd Functions With FloorsCalculus: Find equation that represents the set of all points that are equidistant from given three points (0,0,0) (2,4,3)(10,8,9)Math newbie here. Need help with functionsLet $A=1,2,3..,9$. How many functions $f : A to A$ so that $(fcirc f)(1) = 2$ and f is onto?Unit decomposition by three continuous functionsIs there a short notation for function composition?Comparing the growth rates of 2 functions
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A problem I'm facing involves three given functions. I need to compose two of them to obtain $2^x+1-1$. The three functions I'm allowed to use are
- $f(x) = 2x-1$
- $g(x) = 1/x$
- $h(x) = 2^x$
It would be great if there was a detailed explanation as to how you got the answer too. Thanks!
algebra-precalculus functions function-and-relation-composition
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A problem I'm facing involves three given functions. I need to compose two of them to obtain $2^x+1-1$. The three functions I'm allowed to use are
- $f(x) = 2x-1$
- $g(x) = 1/x$
- $h(x) = 2^x$
It would be great if there was a detailed explanation as to how you got the answer too. Thanks!
algebra-precalculus functions function-and-relation-composition
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Is it $$2^x+1-1$$?
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
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Yes, I couldn't format it well.
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– V11
2 days ago
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There are three ways to try composing two functions, and 6 ways to try composing all three. If those failed you could try further compositions I suppose, but it's pretty obvious any further compositions will fail. You only need to compose two functions, so just try the three combinations. This is not a homework-solving site, so you need to show some effort and context for your problem.
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– Brevan Ellefsen
2 days ago
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Oh, I was thinking maybe fh(x+1). Is that right? I'm not very sure.
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– V11
2 days ago
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For future reference, here's a MathJax reference - the markup language used to render math text here. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
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A problem I'm facing involves three given functions. I need to compose two of them to obtain $2^x+1-1$. The three functions I'm allowed to use are
- $f(x) = 2x-1$
- $g(x) = 1/x$
- $h(x) = 2^x$
It would be great if there was a detailed explanation as to how you got the answer too. Thanks!
algebra-precalculus functions function-and-relation-composition
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A problem I'm facing involves three given functions. I need to compose two of them to obtain $2^x+1-1$. The three functions I'm allowed to use are
- $f(x) = 2x-1$
- $g(x) = 1/x$
- $h(x) = 2^x$
It would be great if there was a detailed explanation as to how you got the answer too. Thanks!
algebra-precalculus functions function-and-relation-composition
algebra-precalculus functions function-and-relation-composition
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Is it $$2^x+1-1$$?
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
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Yes, I couldn't format it well.
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– V11
2 days ago
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There are three ways to try composing two functions, and 6 ways to try composing all three. If those failed you could try further compositions I suppose, but it's pretty obvious any further compositions will fail. You only need to compose two functions, so just try the three combinations. This is not a homework-solving site, so you need to show some effort and context for your problem.
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– Brevan Ellefsen
2 days ago
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Oh, I was thinking maybe fh(x+1). Is that right? I'm not very sure.
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– V11
2 days ago
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For future reference, here's a MathJax reference - the markup language used to render math text here. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
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Is it $$2^x+1-1$$?
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
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Yes, I couldn't format it well.
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– V11
2 days ago
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There are three ways to try composing two functions, and 6 ways to try composing all three. If those failed you could try further compositions I suppose, but it's pretty obvious any further compositions will fail. You only need to compose two functions, so just try the three combinations. This is not a homework-solving site, so you need to show some effort and context for your problem.
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– Brevan Ellefsen
2 days ago
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Oh, I was thinking maybe fh(x+1). Is that right? I'm not very sure.
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– V11
2 days ago
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For future reference, here's a MathJax reference - the markup language used to render math text here. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
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– Eevee Trainer
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Is it $$2^x+1-1$$?
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
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Is it $$2^x+1-1$$?
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
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Yes, I couldn't format it well.
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– V11
2 days ago
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Yes, I couldn't format it well.
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– V11
2 days ago
$begingroup$
There are three ways to try composing two functions, and 6 ways to try composing all three. If those failed you could try further compositions I suppose, but it's pretty obvious any further compositions will fail. You only need to compose two functions, so just try the three combinations. This is not a homework-solving site, so you need to show some effort and context for your problem.
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– Brevan Ellefsen
2 days ago
$begingroup$
There are three ways to try composing two functions, and 6 ways to try composing all three. If those failed you could try further compositions I suppose, but it's pretty obvious any further compositions will fail. You only need to compose two functions, so just try the three combinations. This is not a homework-solving site, so you need to show some effort and context for your problem.
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– Brevan Ellefsen
2 days ago
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Oh, I was thinking maybe fh(x+1). Is that right? I'm not very sure.
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– V11
2 days ago
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Oh, I was thinking maybe fh(x+1). Is that right? I'm not very sure.
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– V11
2 days ago
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For future reference, here's a MathJax reference - the markup language used to render math text here. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
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– Eevee Trainer
2 days ago
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For future reference, here's a MathJax reference - the markup language used to render math text here. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
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Hint:
Consider the functions $f$ and $h$. This answer will be more complicated than simply plugging things in, you'll need to make use of some algebraic properties.
In particular, the property that $$a^b a^c = a^b+c$$
Solution:
So, $f(x) = 2x-1, h(x) = 2^x$. We know we want to get two to the something, so we should apply $h$ at some point, and we kind of want a $-1$ to appear at some point, so that's why we choose $f$.
Sadly beyond that stuff like this is largely guess and check (such as other possible functions or the order to apply them); I'll say right off that the right composition is $f circ h$.
This gives us the function composition
$$(fcirc h)(x) = fleft( h(x) right) = 2cdot 2^x - 1$$
We make use of the property I noted earlier: $2cdot 2^x = 2^x+1$. Thus
$$(fcirc h)(x) = 2^x+1 - 1$$
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Here's the detailed explanation as to how to get the answer:
Compute all applicable compositions, i.e., $f(g(x))$, $g(f(x))$, $f(h(x))$, $h(f(x))$, $g(h(x))$, $h(g(x))$. Then check if any of these equals (or can be simplified to) the desired function of $x$.
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We must not compute all these possibilites, since the solution should be $$2^x+1-1$$
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
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@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Of course, we can stop this extremely finite task as soon as we happen to run into a valid solution. -- Of course one could make one's life a lot easier by observing that the desired composition has $0$ in ist range and is defined at $0$, hence $g$ cannot occur in the composition. Moreover, the desired function has negative numbers in its range, which excludes $h$ as outer function. Hence $fcirc h$ is the only candidate, and if we rely on the validity of the problem statement, we can write it down without further testing ...
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2 days ago
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But $$h(f(x))=2^2x-1,h(g(x))=2^1/x$$ which gives not your solution, so $$f(h(x))$$ leads to your solutions
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Hint:
Consider the functions $f$ and $h$. This answer will be more complicated than simply plugging things in, you'll need to make use of some algebraic properties.
In particular, the property that $$a^b a^c = a^b+c$$
Solution:
So, $f(x) = 2x-1, h(x) = 2^x$. We know we want to get two to the something, so we should apply $h$ at some point, and we kind of want a $-1$ to appear at some point, so that's why we choose $f$.
Sadly beyond that stuff like this is largely guess and check (such as other possible functions or the order to apply them); I'll say right off that the right composition is $f circ h$.
This gives us the function composition
$$(fcirc h)(x) = fleft( h(x) right) = 2cdot 2^x - 1$$
We make use of the property I noted earlier: $2cdot 2^x = 2^x+1$. Thus
$$(fcirc h)(x) = 2^x+1 - 1$$
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Hint:
Consider the functions $f$ and $h$. This answer will be more complicated than simply plugging things in, you'll need to make use of some algebraic properties.
In particular, the property that $$a^b a^c = a^b+c$$
Solution:
So, $f(x) = 2x-1, h(x) = 2^x$. We know we want to get two to the something, so we should apply $h$ at some point, and we kind of want a $-1$ to appear at some point, so that's why we choose $f$.
Sadly beyond that stuff like this is largely guess and check (such as other possible functions or the order to apply them); I'll say right off that the right composition is $f circ h$.
This gives us the function composition
$$(fcirc h)(x) = fleft( h(x) right) = 2cdot 2^x - 1$$
We make use of the property I noted earlier: $2cdot 2^x = 2^x+1$. Thus
$$(fcirc h)(x) = 2^x+1 - 1$$
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add a comment |
$begingroup$
Hint:
Consider the functions $f$ and $h$. This answer will be more complicated than simply plugging things in, you'll need to make use of some algebraic properties.
In particular, the property that $$a^b a^c = a^b+c$$
Solution:
So, $f(x) = 2x-1, h(x) = 2^x$. We know we want to get two to the something, so we should apply $h$ at some point, and we kind of want a $-1$ to appear at some point, so that's why we choose $f$.
Sadly beyond that stuff like this is largely guess and check (such as other possible functions or the order to apply them); I'll say right off that the right composition is $f circ h$.
This gives us the function composition
$$(fcirc h)(x) = fleft( h(x) right) = 2cdot 2^x - 1$$
We make use of the property I noted earlier: $2cdot 2^x = 2^x+1$. Thus
$$(fcirc h)(x) = 2^x+1 - 1$$
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Hint:
Consider the functions $f$ and $h$. This answer will be more complicated than simply plugging things in, you'll need to make use of some algebraic properties.
In particular, the property that $$a^b a^c = a^b+c$$
Solution:
So, $f(x) = 2x-1, h(x) = 2^x$. We know we want to get two to the something, so we should apply $h$ at some point, and we kind of want a $-1$ to appear at some point, so that's why we choose $f$.
Sadly beyond that stuff like this is largely guess and check (such as other possible functions or the order to apply them); I'll say right off that the right composition is $f circ h$.
This gives us the function composition
$$(fcirc h)(x) = fleft( h(x) right) = 2cdot 2^x - 1$$
We make use of the property I noted earlier: $2cdot 2^x = 2^x+1$. Thus
$$(fcirc h)(x) = 2^x+1 - 1$$
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Here's the detailed explanation as to how to get the answer:
Compute all applicable compositions, i.e., $f(g(x))$, $g(f(x))$, $f(h(x))$, $h(f(x))$, $g(h(x))$, $h(g(x))$. Then check if any of these equals (or can be simplified to) the desired function of $x$.
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We must not compute all these possibilites, since the solution should be $$2^x+1-1$$
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
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@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Of course, we can stop this extremely finite task as soon as we happen to run into a valid solution. -- Of course one could make one's life a lot easier by observing that the desired composition has $0$ in ist range and is defined at $0$, hence $g$ cannot occur in the composition. Moreover, the desired function has negative numbers in its range, which excludes $h$ as outer function. Hence $fcirc h$ is the only candidate, and if we rely on the validity of the problem statement, we can write it down without further testing ...
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– Hagen von Eitzen
2 days ago
add a comment |
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Here's the detailed explanation as to how to get the answer:
Compute all applicable compositions, i.e., $f(g(x))$, $g(f(x))$, $f(h(x))$, $h(f(x))$, $g(h(x))$, $h(g(x))$. Then check if any of these equals (or can be simplified to) the desired function of $x$.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
We must not compute all these possibilites, since the solution should be $$2^x+1-1$$
$endgroup$
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Of course, we can stop this extremely finite task as soon as we happen to run into a valid solution. -- Of course one could make one's life a lot easier by observing that the desired composition has $0$ in ist range and is defined at $0$, hence $g$ cannot occur in the composition. Moreover, the desired function has negative numbers in its range, which excludes $h$ as outer function. Hence $fcirc h$ is the only candidate, and if we rely on the validity of the problem statement, we can write it down without further testing ...
$endgroup$
– Hagen von Eitzen
2 days ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Here's the detailed explanation as to how to get the answer:
Compute all applicable compositions, i.e., $f(g(x))$, $g(f(x))$, $f(h(x))$, $h(f(x))$, $g(h(x))$, $h(g(x))$. Then check if any of these equals (or can be simplified to) the desired function of $x$.
$endgroup$
Here's the detailed explanation as to how to get the answer:
Compute all applicable compositions, i.e., $f(g(x))$, $g(f(x))$, $f(h(x))$, $h(f(x))$, $g(h(x))$, $h(g(x))$. Then check if any of these equals (or can be simplified to) the desired function of $x$.
answered 2 days ago
Hagen von EitzenHagen von Eitzen
282k23272507
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We must not compute all these possibilites, since the solution should be $$2^x+1-1$$
$endgroup$
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Of course, we can stop this extremely finite task as soon as we happen to run into a valid solution. -- Of course one could make one's life a lot easier by observing that the desired composition has $0$ in ist range and is defined at $0$, hence $g$ cannot occur in the composition. Moreover, the desired function has negative numbers in its range, which excludes $h$ as outer function. Hence $fcirc h$ is the only candidate, and if we rely on the validity of the problem statement, we can write it down without further testing ...
$endgroup$
– Hagen von Eitzen
2 days ago
add a comment |
$begingroup$
We must not compute all these possibilites, since the solution should be $$2^x+1-1$$
$endgroup$
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Of course, we can stop this extremely finite task as soon as we happen to run into a valid solution. -- Of course one could make one's life a lot easier by observing that the desired composition has $0$ in ist range and is defined at $0$, hence $g$ cannot occur in the composition. Moreover, the desired function has negative numbers in its range, which excludes $h$ as outer function. Hence $fcirc h$ is the only candidate, and if we rely on the validity of the problem statement, we can write it down without further testing ...
$endgroup$
– Hagen von Eitzen
2 days ago
$begingroup$
We must not compute all these possibilites, since the solution should be $$2^x+1-1$$
$endgroup$
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
$begingroup$
We must not compute all these possibilites, since the solution should be $$2^x+1-1$$
$endgroup$
– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Of course, we can stop this extremely finite task as soon as we happen to run into a valid solution. -- Of course one could make one's life a lot easier by observing that the desired composition has $0$ in ist range and is defined at $0$, hence $g$ cannot occur in the composition. Moreover, the desired function has negative numbers in its range, which excludes $h$ as outer function. Hence $fcirc h$ is the only candidate, and if we rely on the validity of the problem statement, we can write it down without further testing ...
$endgroup$
– Hagen von Eitzen
2 days ago
$begingroup$
@Dr.SonnhardGraubner Of course, we can stop this extremely finite task as soon as we happen to run into a valid solution. -- Of course one could make one's life a lot easier by observing that the desired composition has $0$ in ist range and is defined at $0$, hence $g$ cannot occur in the composition. Moreover, the desired function has negative numbers in its range, which excludes $h$ as outer function. Hence $fcirc h$ is the only candidate, and if we rely on the validity of the problem statement, we can write it down without further testing ...
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– Hagen von Eitzen
2 days ago
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But $$h(f(x))=2^2x-1,h(g(x))=2^1/x$$ which gives not your solution, so $$f(h(x))$$ leads to your solutions
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But $$h(f(x))=2^2x-1,h(g(x))=2^1/x$$ which gives not your solution, so $$f(h(x))$$ leads to your solutions
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But $$h(f(x))=2^2x-1,h(g(x))=2^1/x$$ which gives not your solution, so $$f(h(x))$$ leads to your solutions
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But $$h(f(x))=2^2x-1,h(g(x))=2^1/x$$ which gives not your solution, so $$f(h(x))$$ leads to your solutions
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Is it $$2^x+1-1$$?
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– Dr. Sonnhard Graubner
2 days ago
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Yes, I couldn't format it well.
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– V11
2 days ago
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There are three ways to try composing two functions, and 6 ways to try composing all three. If those failed you could try further compositions I suppose, but it's pretty obvious any further compositions will fail. You only need to compose two functions, so just try the three combinations. This is not a homework-solving site, so you need to show some effort and context for your problem.
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– Brevan Ellefsen
2 days ago
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Oh, I was thinking maybe fh(x+1). Is that right? I'm not very sure.
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– V11
2 days ago
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For future reference, here's a MathJax reference - the markup language used to render math text here. math.meta.stackexchange.com/questions/5020/…
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– Eevee Trainer
2 days ago