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What's the upper bound of the area of a $psi$-thickened perimeter of a curve?
Looking to find the largest rectangle, by area, inside a polygonMust a curve of constant width be generated with an odd number of sides?Filling a big rectangle with smaller rectanglesA polygon compactness metric that filters out the noise of small concavities?Least area of maximal triangle inside convex $n$-gon.Does the perimeter of a polygon necessarily decrease if more edges are added to it, with the constraint of constant area?Which shapes could have the largest and lowest possible area?Does the interior angle for an optimized 2-field solution remain constant when going through N dimensions?proving that the area of a 2016 sided polygon is an even integerRatio of Perimeter^3 to the Area of an Isoceles Triangle.
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I'm reading through this paper and in the part Proof of Theorem 2 (page 4, at the bottom) I stumbled upon this problem.
Basically, we have a unit square partitioned into several districts $D_i$ with the area denoted by $|D_i|$ and perimeter by $|partial D_i|$. We take some constant $psi$ and make a "$psi$-thickened $partial D_i$", which I guess means constructing some kind of a belt around the perimeter, which has a constant width of $psi$ (but not constant distance from $delta D_i$). They then casually claim that this belt has an area bounded from above by
$$psileft|partial D_iright| + pi psi^2.$$
That makes intuitive sense when I imagine $D_i$ being a polygon, and I can even prove it for a $n$-sided polygon. The first part of the formula corresponds to rectangles with exactly $psi$ height drawn above every side of the polygon and the second part is an area of the circle which is a sum of all the circle-parts above the vertices.
The problem is, it can be any general curve that doesn't cross over itself. I'm not sure how to generalize this idea to curves.
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I'm reading through this paper and in the part Proof of Theorem 2 (page 4, at the bottom) I stumbled upon this problem.
Basically, we have a unit square partitioned into several districts $D_i$ with the area denoted by $|D_i|$ and perimeter by $|partial D_i|$. We take some constant $psi$ and make a "$psi$-thickened $partial D_i$", which I guess means constructing some kind of a belt around the perimeter, which has a constant width of $psi$ (but not constant distance from $delta D_i$). They then casually claim that this belt has an area bounded from above by
$$psileft|partial D_iright| + pi psi^2.$$
That makes intuitive sense when I imagine $D_i$ being a polygon, and I can even prove it for a $n$-sided polygon. The first part of the formula corresponds to rectangles with exactly $psi$ height drawn above every side of the polygon and the second part is an area of the circle which is a sum of all the circle-parts above the vertices.
The problem is, it can be any general curve that doesn't cross over itself. I'm not sure how to generalize this idea to curves.
geometry
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A more current terminology is the dilated set. The formula you give works only for convex shapes with a regular boundary.
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– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 18:24
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Great to hear that, you can't imagine how hard it is to google "constant-thickened perimeter". I'll look it up; however, they don't state or even mention any of those conditions.
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– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 15 at 18:30
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Rectification : I had read too quickly : for an inequality, you do not need a convex set. It is for the equality : area of the dilated set by $psi $ = initial area + $psi times $ perimeter +$pi psi^2$ that you need a convex set.
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– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:37
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Other keywords for extension to 3D for example (that you hopefuly do not need) : Steiner's formula, Minkowski functionals
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– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:52
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Thanks. I can't seem to find anything about dilated sets beyond 7th grade material, though. Could you please provide some further pointers, especially for the 2D version? Please excuse my inability to google properly.
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– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 16 at 9:26
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I'm reading through this paper and in the part Proof of Theorem 2 (page 4, at the bottom) I stumbled upon this problem.
Basically, we have a unit square partitioned into several districts $D_i$ with the area denoted by $|D_i|$ and perimeter by $|partial D_i|$. We take some constant $psi$ and make a "$psi$-thickened $partial D_i$", which I guess means constructing some kind of a belt around the perimeter, which has a constant width of $psi$ (but not constant distance from $delta D_i$). They then casually claim that this belt has an area bounded from above by
$$psileft|partial D_iright| + pi psi^2.$$
That makes intuitive sense when I imagine $D_i$ being a polygon, and I can even prove it for a $n$-sided polygon. The first part of the formula corresponds to rectangles with exactly $psi$ height drawn above every side of the polygon and the second part is an area of the circle which is a sum of all the circle-parts above the vertices.
The problem is, it can be any general curve that doesn't cross over itself. I'm not sure how to generalize this idea to curves.
geometry
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I'm reading through this paper and in the part Proof of Theorem 2 (page 4, at the bottom) I stumbled upon this problem.
Basically, we have a unit square partitioned into several districts $D_i$ with the area denoted by $|D_i|$ and perimeter by $|partial D_i|$. We take some constant $psi$ and make a "$psi$-thickened $partial D_i$", which I guess means constructing some kind of a belt around the perimeter, which has a constant width of $psi$ (but not constant distance from $delta D_i$). They then casually claim that this belt has an area bounded from above by
$$psileft|partial D_iright| + pi psi^2.$$
That makes intuitive sense when I imagine $D_i$ being a polygon, and I can even prove it for a $n$-sided polygon. The first part of the formula corresponds to rectangles with exactly $psi$ height drawn above every side of the polygon and the second part is an area of the circle which is a sum of all the circle-parts above the vertices.
The problem is, it can be any general curve that doesn't cross over itself. I'm not sure how to generalize this idea to curves.
geometry
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A more current terminology is the dilated set. The formula you give works only for convex shapes with a regular boundary.
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– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 18:24
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Great to hear that, you can't imagine how hard it is to google "constant-thickened perimeter". I'll look it up; however, they don't state or even mention any of those conditions.
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– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 15 at 18:30
1
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Rectification : I had read too quickly : for an inequality, you do not need a convex set. It is for the equality : area of the dilated set by $psi $ = initial area + $psi times $ perimeter +$pi psi^2$ that you need a convex set.
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– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:37
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Other keywords for extension to 3D for example (that you hopefuly do not need) : Steiner's formula, Minkowski functionals
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– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:52
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Thanks. I can't seem to find anything about dilated sets beyond 7th grade material, though. Could you please provide some further pointers, especially for the 2D version? Please excuse my inability to google properly.
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– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 16 at 9:26
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show 1 more comment
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A more current terminology is the dilated set. The formula you give works only for convex shapes with a regular boundary.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 18:24
$begingroup$
Great to hear that, you can't imagine how hard it is to google "constant-thickened perimeter". I'll look it up; however, they don't state or even mention any of those conditions.
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– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 15 at 18:30
1
$begingroup$
Rectification : I had read too quickly : for an inequality, you do not need a convex set. It is for the equality : area of the dilated set by $psi $ = initial area + $psi times $ perimeter +$pi psi^2$ that you need a convex set.
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– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:37
$begingroup$
Other keywords for extension to 3D for example (that you hopefuly do not need) : Steiner's formula, Minkowski functionals
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:52
$begingroup$
Thanks. I can't seem to find anything about dilated sets beyond 7th grade material, though. Could you please provide some further pointers, especially for the 2D version? Please excuse my inability to google properly.
$endgroup$
– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 16 at 9:26
$begingroup$
A more current terminology is the dilated set. The formula you give works only for convex shapes with a regular boundary.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 18:24
$begingroup$
A more current terminology is the dilated set. The formula you give works only for convex shapes with a regular boundary.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 18:24
$begingroup$
Great to hear that, you can't imagine how hard it is to google "constant-thickened perimeter". I'll look it up; however, they don't state or even mention any of those conditions.
$endgroup$
– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 15 at 18:30
$begingroup$
Great to hear that, you can't imagine how hard it is to google "constant-thickened perimeter". I'll look it up; however, they don't state or even mention any of those conditions.
$endgroup$
– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 15 at 18:30
1
1
$begingroup$
Rectification : I had read too quickly : for an inequality, you do not need a convex set. It is for the equality : area of the dilated set by $psi $ = initial area + $psi times $ perimeter +$pi psi^2$ that you need a convex set.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:37
$begingroup$
Rectification : I had read too quickly : for an inequality, you do not need a convex set. It is for the equality : area of the dilated set by $psi $ = initial area + $psi times $ perimeter +$pi psi^2$ that you need a convex set.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:37
$begingroup$
Other keywords for extension to 3D for example (that you hopefuly do not need) : Steiner's formula, Minkowski functionals
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:52
$begingroup$
Other keywords for extension to 3D for example (that you hopefuly do not need) : Steiner's formula, Minkowski functionals
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:52
$begingroup$
Thanks. I can't seem to find anything about dilated sets beyond 7th grade material, though. Could you please provide some further pointers, especially for the 2D version? Please excuse my inability to google properly.
$endgroup$
– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 16 at 9:26
$begingroup$
Thanks. I can't seem to find anything about dilated sets beyond 7th grade material, though. Could you please provide some further pointers, especially for the 2D version? Please excuse my inability to google properly.
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– Sh4rP EYE
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A more current terminology is the dilated set. The formula you give works only for convex shapes with a regular boundary.
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– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 18:24
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Great to hear that, you can't imagine how hard it is to google "constant-thickened perimeter". I'll look it up; however, they don't state or even mention any of those conditions.
$endgroup$
– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 15 at 18:30
1
$begingroup$
Rectification : I had read too quickly : for an inequality, you do not need a convex set. It is for the equality : area of the dilated set by $psi $ = initial area + $psi times $ perimeter +$pi psi^2$ that you need a convex set.
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:37
$begingroup$
Other keywords for extension to 3D for example (that you hopefuly do not need) : Steiner's formula, Minkowski functionals
$endgroup$
– Jean Marie
Mar 15 at 20:52
$begingroup$
Thanks. I can't seem to find anything about dilated sets beyond 7th grade material, though. Could you please provide some further pointers, especially for the 2D version? Please excuse my inability to google properly.
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– Sh4rP EYE
Mar 16 at 9:26