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If $sum a_n$ converges and $b_n=sumlimits_k=n^inftya_n $, prove that $sum fraca_nb_n$ diverges


What can be said about the convergence/divergence of $sum a_n/r_n$ when $sum a_n$ is convergent?Prove that the series $sum fraca_nr_n$ diverges.An important lemma involving diverging sequencesMembers divided by remainder series diverges$frac a_n+1a_n le frac b_n+1b_n$ If $sum_n=1^infty b_n$ converges then $sum_n=1^infty a_n$ converges as wellIf $ sum a_n$ diverges and $lambda_n to infty$, does the series $ sum lambda_na_n$ diverge?If $sum a_n b_n$ converges for all $(b_n)$ such that $b_n to 0$, then $sum |a_n|$ converges.If $sumlimits_n=1^infty a_n$ diverges, then $sumlimits_n=1^inftyexpleft(-sumlimits_k=1^n k a_kright)$ converges?If a $a_n$ diverges, so $a_n rightarrow + infty$, how to find sequence $b_n$ such that $sum |b_n|<infty$ but $sum |a_n||b_n|$ diverges?Show that if $sum b_n$ is a rearrangement of a series $sum a_n$ , and $a_n$ diverges to $infty$, then $sum b_n = infty$Convergence of $sumfraca_nb_n $ and $ sum (fraca_nb_n)^2 $ implies convergence of $ sumfraca_na_n+b_n$Convergence of infinite series for $sum a_n $ and $sum b_n$$a_n$ is convergent, $b_n$ bounded, prove $sum a_n b_n$ convergesProve that the series $sum fraca_nr_n$ diverges.













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Let $displaystyle sum a_n$ be convergent series of positive terms and set $displaystyle b_n=sum_k=n^inftya_n$ , then prove that $displaystylesum fraca_nb_n$ diverges.




I could see that $b_n$ is monotonically decreasing sequence converging to $0$ and I can write $displaystylesum fraca_nb_n=sumfracb_n-b_n+1b_n$, how shall I proceed further?










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Let $displaystyle sum a_n$ be convergent series of positive terms and set $displaystyle b_n=sum_k=n^inftya_n$ , then prove that $displaystylesum fraca_nb_n$ diverges.




I could see that $b_n$ is monotonically decreasing sequence converging to $0$ and I can write $displaystylesum fraca_nb_n=sumfracb_n-b_n+1b_n$, how shall I proceed further?










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Let $displaystyle sum a_n$ be convergent series of positive terms and set $displaystyle b_n=sum_k=n^inftya_n$ , then prove that $displaystylesum fraca_nb_n$ diverges.




I could see that $b_n$ is monotonically decreasing sequence converging to $0$ and I can write $displaystylesum fraca_nb_n=sumfracb_n-b_n+1b_n$, how shall I proceed further?










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Let $displaystyle sum a_n$ be convergent series of positive terms and set $displaystyle b_n=sum_k=n^inftya_n$ , then prove that $displaystylesum fraca_nb_n$ diverges.




I could see that $b_n$ is monotonically decreasing sequence converging to $0$ and I can write $displaystylesum fraca_nb_n=sumfracb_n-b_n+1b_n$, how shall I proceed further?







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$$fracb_k+1b_k=1-fraca_kb_k$$
Hence
$$fracb_N+1b_1=prod_k=1^N(1-fraca_kb_k)$$ and
$$log b_N+1-log b_1=sum_k=1^N log(1-fraca_kb_k)$$
Now if the series $a_k/b_k$ is convergent, we have $a_k/b_k to 0$, and as $log(1-x)sim -x$ and the series have constant sign, this imply that the series $displaystyle log (1-fraca_kb_k)$ is convergent, a contradiction as $log (b_N+1) to -infty$.






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    Assuming $sum a_n=L$, for any $n$ big enough we must have:
    $$a_n geq frac1nsum_m>na_m,tag1$$
    otherwise, assuming that $N$ is the greatest integer for which $(1)$ holds, we have:
    $$L< a_N+frac1N(L-a_n)+fracN-1(N+1)N(L-a_n)+ldots = L,tag2$$
    contradiction. This implies that for any $ngeq M$
    $$left(1+frac1nright)a_ngeqfrac1nb_ntag3$$
    holds, hence:
    $$sum_ngeq Mfraca_nb_ngeqsum_ngeq Mfrac1n+1,tag4$$
    but the RHS of $(4)$ diverges.






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      First note that $b_n_ninmathbb N$ is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers, which tends to zero.



      We have that, for $n> m$
      $$
      fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_nge
      fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_m=frac1b_m(a_m+cdots+a_n)=fracb_n-b_mb_m=1-fracb_nb_m.
      $$
      Next, as $b_nsearrow 0$, choose $m_1,m_2,ldots,m_k,ldots$, so that
      $$
      fracb_m_i+1b_m_i<1/2.
      $$
      Then we have that
      $$
      sum_n=1^m_kfraca_nb_ngesum_i=1^k-1sum_n=m_i+1^m_i+1fraca_nb_nge
      sum_i=1^k-1left(1-fracb_m_ib_m_i+1right)gefrack-12,
      $$
      and hence $displaystylesum_n=1^inftyfraca_nb_n=infty$.






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        For $m>n$ one has
        $$beginalignedfraca_nb_n+cdotsfraca_mb_m&ge fraca_nb_n+cdots +fraca_mb_n\
        &=fracb_n-b_m+1b_n = 1-fracb_m+1b_n.
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        Can you continue from here?






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          For a sum $sum_k=0^inftyc_k$ to converge its tail must converge to 0.



          $$
          lim_n to infty sum_k=n^inftyc_k = 0
          $$



          i.e. for every $epsilon$ there exist a $n_0$ such that for all $n > n_0$



          $$
          left| sum_k=n^inftyc_k right| < epsilon
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          We can prove that there exists a $epsilon$ such that for all $n$ the sum is bigger than $epsilon$ and thus the sum diverges.



          $$
          sum_k=n^inftyfraca_kb_k geq frac1b_nsum_k=n^inftya_k = 1 = epsilon
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            First answer was wrong. Here is my new try :



            If $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n$ is not $ 0 $ or does not exist, $sum fraca_nb_n$ is directly divergent.



            Otherwise we have $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n = 0 $ so $b_n+1 sim b_n $ . It implies $sum fraca_nb_n = sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n$ and $sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1$ have the same behavior thanks to limit comparison test.



            Now, since $b_n$ is decreasing and tends to $0$ as $nto+infty$, we can use an integral comparison :



            $$ sum_n=1^N fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1 ge sum_n=1^N int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx = int_b_N+1^b_1 fracdxx = ln left(fracb_1b_N+1right) undersetNto+inftylongrightarrow+infty $$






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              please explain $displaystyle fracb_n-b_n+1b_n ge int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx$
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              For any function $f$ positive on $[a,b], a < b $, we have (just make a quick drawing) : $$(b-a) cdot undersetxin [a,b]min f(x) le int_a^b f(t) dt le (b-a)cdot undersetxin [a,b]max f(x) $$ Another way to see it is that the mean value of the function $f$ over $[a,b]$ is between the minimum and the maximum value of $f$ on this interval.
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              Yes, but $x leq b_n$ and thus $frac1x geq frac1b_n$, but you need $frac1x leq frac1b_n$.
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              Sorry I made a mistake. You are right it should be with $b_n+1$. Initial answer corrected, though.
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            Sorry, my previous answer was not correct. A new tentative:



            $$fracb_k+1b_k=1-fraca_kb_k$$
            Hence
            $$fracb_N+1b_1=prod_k=1^N(1-fraca_kb_k)$$ and
            $$log b_N+1-log b_1=sum_k=1^N log(1-fraca_kb_k)$$
            Now if the series $a_k/b_k$ is convergent, we have $a_k/b_k to 0$, and as $log(1-x)sim -x$ and the series have constant sign, this imply that the series $displaystyle log (1-fraca_kb_k)$ is convergent, a contradiction as $log (b_N+1) to -infty$.






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              Sorry, my previous answer was not correct. A new tentative:



              $$fracb_k+1b_k=1-fraca_kb_k$$
              Hence
              $$fracb_N+1b_1=prod_k=1^N(1-fraca_kb_k)$$ and
              $$log b_N+1-log b_1=sum_k=1^N log(1-fraca_kb_k)$$
              Now if the series $a_k/b_k$ is convergent, we have $a_k/b_k to 0$, and as $log(1-x)sim -x$ and the series have constant sign, this imply that the series $displaystyle log (1-fraca_kb_k)$ is convergent, a contradiction as $log (b_N+1) to -infty$.






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                Sorry, my previous answer was not correct. A new tentative:



                $$fracb_k+1b_k=1-fraca_kb_k$$
                Hence
                $$fracb_N+1b_1=prod_k=1^N(1-fraca_kb_k)$$ and
                $$log b_N+1-log b_1=sum_k=1^N log(1-fraca_kb_k)$$
                Now if the series $a_k/b_k$ is convergent, we have $a_k/b_k to 0$, and as $log(1-x)sim -x$ and the series have constant sign, this imply that the series $displaystyle log (1-fraca_kb_k)$ is convergent, a contradiction as $log (b_N+1) to -infty$.






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                Sorry, my previous answer was not correct. A new tentative:



                $$fracb_k+1b_k=1-fraca_kb_k$$
                Hence
                $$fracb_N+1b_1=prod_k=1^N(1-fraca_kb_k)$$ and
                $$log b_N+1-log b_1=sum_k=1^N log(1-fraca_kb_k)$$
                Now if the series $a_k/b_k$ is convergent, we have $a_k/b_k to 0$, and as $log(1-x)sim -x$ and the series have constant sign, this imply that the series $displaystyle log (1-fraca_kb_k)$ is convergent, a contradiction as $log (b_N+1) to -infty$.







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                    Assuming $sum a_n=L$, for any $n$ big enough we must have:
                    $$a_n geq frac1nsum_m>na_m,tag1$$
                    otherwise, assuming that $N$ is the greatest integer for which $(1)$ holds, we have:
                    $$L< a_N+frac1N(L-a_n)+fracN-1(N+1)N(L-a_n)+ldots = L,tag2$$
                    contradiction. This implies that for any $ngeq M$
                    $$left(1+frac1nright)a_ngeqfrac1nb_ntag3$$
                    holds, hence:
                    $$sum_ngeq Mfraca_nb_ngeqsum_ngeq Mfrac1n+1,tag4$$
                    but the RHS of $(4)$ diverges.






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                      Assuming $sum a_n=L$, for any $n$ big enough we must have:
                      $$a_n geq frac1nsum_m>na_m,tag1$$
                      otherwise, assuming that $N$ is the greatest integer for which $(1)$ holds, we have:
                      $$L< a_N+frac1N(L-a_n)+fracN-1(N+1)N(L-a_n)+ldots = L,tag2$$
                      contradiction. This implies that for any $ngeq M$
                      $$left(1+frac1nright)a_ngeqfrac1nb_ntag3$$
                      holds, hence:
                      $$sum_ngeq Mfraca_nb_ngeqsum_ngeq Mfrac1n+1,tag4$$
                      but the RHS of $(4)$ diverges.






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                        Assuming $sum a_n=L$, for any $n$ big enough we must have:
                        $$a_n geq frac1nsum_m>na_m,tag1$$
                        otherwise, assuming that $N$ is the greatest integer for which $(1)$ holds, we have:
                        $$L< a_N+frac1N(L-a_n)+fracN-1(N+1)N(L-a_n)+ldots = L,tag2$$
                        contradiction. This implies that for any $ngeq M$
                        $$left(1+frac1nright)a_ngeqfrac1nb_ntag3$$
                        holds, hence:
                        $$sum_ngeq Mfraca_nb_ngeqsum_ngeq Mfrac1n+1,tag4$$
                        but the RHS of $(4)$ diverges.






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                        Assuming $sum a_n=L$, for any $n$ big enough we must have:
                        $$a_n geq frac1nsum_m>na_m,tag1$$
                        otherwise, assuming that $N$ is the greatest integer for which $(1)$ holds, we have:
                        $$L< a_N+frac1N(L-a_n)+fracN-1(N+1)N(L-a_n)+ldots = L,tag2$$
                        contradiction. This implies that for any $ngeq M$
                        $$left(1+frac1nright)a_ngeqfrac1nb_ntag3$$
                        holds, hence:
                        $$sum_ngeq Mfraca_nb_ngeqsum_ngeq Mfrac1n+1,tag4$$
                        but the RHS of $(4)$ diverges.







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                            First note that $b_n_ninmathbb N$ is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers, which tends to zero.



                            We have that, for $n> m$
                            $$
                            fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_nge
                            fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_m=frac1b_m(a_m+cdots+a_n)=fracb_n-b_mb_m=1-fracb_nb_m.
                            $$
                            Next, as $b_nsearrow 0$, choose $m_1,m_2,ldots,m_k,ldots$, so that
                            $$
                            fracb_m_i+1b_m_i<1/2.
                            $$
                            Then we have that
                            $$
                            sum_n=1^m_kfraca_nb_ngesum_i=1^k-1sum_n=m_i+1^m_i+1fraca_nb_nge
                            sum_i=1^k-1left(1-fracb_m_ib_m_i+1right)gefrack-12,
                            $$
                            and hence $displaystylesum_n=1^inftyfraca_nb_n=infty$.






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                              First note that $b_n_ninmathbb N$ is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers, which tends to zero.



                              We have that, for $n> m$
                              $$
                              fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_nge
                              fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_m=frac1b_m(a_m+cdots+a_n)=fracb_n-b_mb_m=1-fracb_nb_m.
                              $$
                              Next, as $b_nsearrow 0$, choose $m_1,m_2,ldots,m_k,ldots$, so that
                              $$
                              fracb_m_i+1b_m_i<1/2.
                              $$
                              Then we have that
                              $$
                              sum_n=1^m_kfraca_nb_ngesum_i=1^k-1sum_n=m_i+1^m_i+1fraca_nb_nge
                              sum_i=1^k-1left(1-fracb_m_ib_m_i+1right)gefrack-12,
                              $$
                              and hence $displaystylesum_n=1^inftyfraca_nb_n=infty$.






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                                First note that $b_n_ninmathbb N$ is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers, which tends to zero.



                                We have that, for $n> m$
                                $$
                                fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_nge
                                fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_m=frac1b_m(a_m+cdots+a_n)=fracb_n-b_mb_m=1-fracb_nb_m.
                                $$
                                Next, as $b_nsearrow 0$, choose $m_1,m_2,ldots,m_k,ldots$, so that
                                $$
                                fracb_m_i+1b_m_i<1/2.
                                $$
                                Then we have that
                                $$
                                sum_n=1^m_kfraca_nb_ngesum_i=1^k-1sum_n=m_i+1^m_i+1fraca_nb_nge
                                sum_i=1^k-1left(1-fracb_m_ib_m_i+1right)gefrack-12,
                                $$
                                and hence $displaystylesum_n=1^inftyfraca_nb_n=infty$.






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                                First note that $b_n_ninmathbb N$ is a decreasing sequence of positive numbers, which tends to zero.



                                We have that, for $n> m$
                                $$
                                fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_nge
                                fraca_mb_m+cdots+fraca_nb_m=frac1b_m(a_m+cdots+a_n)=fracb_n-b_mb_m=1-fracb_nb_m.
                                $$
                                Next, as $b_nsearrow 0$, choose $m_1,m_2,ldots,m_k,ldots$, so that
                                $$
                                fracb_m_i+1b_m_i<1/2.
                                $$
                                Then we have that
                                $$
                                sum_n=1^m_kfraca_nb_ngesum_i=1^k-1sum_n=m_i+1^m_i+1fraca_nb_nge
                                sum_i=1^k-1left(1-fracb_m_ib_m_i+1right)gefrack-12,
                                $$
                                and hence $displaystylesum_n=1^inftyfraca_nb_n=infty$.







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                                    For $m>n$ one has
                                    $$beginalignedfraca_nb_n+cdotsfraca_mb_m&ge fraca_nb_n+cdots +fraca_mb_n\
                                    &=fracb_n-b_m+1b_n = 1-fracb_m+1b_n.
                                    endaligned$$
                                    Can you continue from here?






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                                      $begingroup$

                                      For $m>n$ one has
                                      $$beginalignedfraca_nb_n+cdotsfraca_mb_m&ge fraca_nb_n+cdots +fraca_mb_n\
                                      &=fracb_n-b_m+1b_n = 1-fracb_m+1b_n.
                                      endaligned$$
                                      Can you continue from here?






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                                        $begingroup$

                                        For $m>n$ one has
                                        $$beginalignedfraca_nb_n+cdotsfraca_mb_m&ge fraca_nb_n+cdots +fraca_mb_n\
                                        &=fracb_n-b_m+1b_n = 1-fracb_m+1b_n.
                                        endaligned$$
                                        Can you continue from here?






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                                        For $m>n$ one has
                                        $$beginalignedfraca_nb_n+cdotsfraca_mb_m&ge fraca_nb_n+cdots +fraca_mb_n\
                                        &=fracb_n-b_m+1b_n = 1-fracb_m+1b_n.
                                        endaligned$$
                                        Can you continue from here?







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                                        answered Aug 11 '14 at 7:44









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                                            $begingroup$

                                            For a sum $sum_k=0^inftyc_k$ to converge its tail must converge to 0.



                                            $$
                                            lim_n to infty sum_k=n^inftyc_k = 0
                                            $$



                                            i.e. for every $epsilon$ there exist a $n_0$ such that for all $n > n_0$



                                            $$
                                            left| sum_k=n^inftyc_k right| < epsilon
                                            $$



                                            We can prove that there exists a $epsilon$ such that for all $n$ the sum is bigger than $epsilon$ and thus the sum diverges.



                                            $$
                                            sum_k=n^inftyfraca_kb_k geq frac1b_nsum_k=n^inftya_k = 1 = epsilon
                                            $$






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                                              $begingroup$

                                              For a sum $sum_k=0^inftyc_k$ to converge its tail must converge to 0.



                                              $$
                                              lim_n to infty sum_k=n^inftyc_k = 0
                                              $$



                                              i.e. for every $epsilon$ there exist a $n_0$ such that for all $n > n_0$



                                              $$
                                              left| sum_k=n^inftyc_k right| < epsilon
                                              $$



                                              We can prove that there exists a $epsilon$ such that for all $n$ the sum is bigger than $epsilon$ and thus the sum diverges.



                                              $$
                                              sum_k=n^inftyfraca_kb_k geq frac1b_nsum_k=n^inftya_k = 1 = epsilon
                                              $$






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                                                2





                                                $begingroup$

                                                For a sum $sum_k=0^inftyc_k$ to converge its tail must converge to 0.



                                                $$
                                                lim_n to infty sum_k=n^inftyc_k = 0
                                                $$



                                                i.e. for every $epsilon$ there exist a $n_0$ such that for all $n > n_0$



                                                $$
                                                left| sum_k=n^inftyc_k right| < epsilon
                                                $$



                                                We can prove that there exists a $epsilon$ such that for all $n$ the sum is bigger than $epsilon$ and thus the sum diverges.



                                                $$
                                                sum_k=n^inftyfraca_kb_k geq frac1b_nsum_k=n^inftya_k = 1 = epsilon
                                                $$






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                                                For a sum $sum_k=0^inftyc_k$ to converge its tail must converge to 0.



                                                $$
                                                lim_n to infty sum_k=n^inftyc_k = 0
                                                $$



                                                i.e. for every $epsilon$ there exist a $n_0$ such that for all $n > n_0$



                                                $$
                                                left| sum_k=n^inftyc_k right| < epsilon
                                                $$



                                                We can prove that there exists a $epsilon$ such that for all $n$ the sum is bigger than $epsilon$ and thus the sum diverges.



                                                $$
                                                sum_k=n^inftyfraca_kb_k geq frac1b_nsum_k=n^inftya_k = 1 = epsilon
                                                $$







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                                                answered Aug 11 '14 at 8:50









                                                vladimirmvladimirm

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                                                    $begingroup$

                                                    First answer was wrong. Here is my new try :



                                                    If $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n$ is not $ 0 $ or does not exist, $sum fraca_nb_n$ is directly divergent.



                                                    Otherwise we have $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n = 0 $ so $b_n+1 sim b_n $ . It implies $sum fraca_nb_n = sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n$ and $sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1$ have the same behavior thanks to limit comparison test.



                                                    Now, since $b_n$ is decreasing and tends to $0$ as $nto+infty$, we can use an integral comparison :



                                                    $$ sum_n=1^N fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1 ge sum_n=1^N int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx = int_b_N+1^b_1 fracdxx = ln left(fracb_1b_N+1right) undersetNto+inftylongrightarrow+infty $$






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                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      please explain $displaystyle fracb_n-b_n+1b_n ge int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx$
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – Bhauryal
                                                      Aug 12 '14 at 16:58










                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      For any function $f$ positive on $[a,b], a < b $, we have (just make a quick drawing) : $$(b-a) cdot undersetxin [a,b]min f(x) le int_a^b f(t) dt le (b-a)cdot undersetxin [a,b]max f(x) $$ Another way to see it is that the mean value of the function $f$ over $[a,b]$ is between the minimum and the maximum value of $f$ on this interval.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – yultan
                                                      Aug 12 '14 at 19:48











                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      Yes, but $x leq b_n$ and thus $frac1x geq frac1b_n$, but you need $frac1x leq frac1b_n$.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – PhoemueX
                                                      Aug 13 '14 at 8:14










                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      Sorry I made a mistake. You are right it should be with $b_n+1$. Initial answer corrected, though.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – yultan
                                                      Aug 13 '14 at 11:56















                                                    2












                                                    $begingroup$

                                                    First answer was wrong. Here is my new try :



                                                    If $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n$ is not $ 0 $ or does not exist, $sum fraca_nb_n$ is directly divergent.



                                                    Otherwise we have $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n = 0 $ so $b_n+1 sim b_n $ . It implies $sum fraca_nb_n = sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n$ and $sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1$ have the same behavior thanks to limit comparison test.



                                                    Now, since $b_n$ is decreasing and tends to $0$ as $nto+infty$, we can use an integral comparison :



                                                    $$ sum_n=1^N fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1 ge sum_n=1^N int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx = int_b_N+1^b_1 fracdxx = ln left(fracb_1b_N+1right) undersetNto+inftylongrightarrow+infty $$






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                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      please explain $displaystyle fracb_n-b_n+1b_n ge int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx$
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – Bhauryal
                                                      Aug 12 '14 at 16:58










                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      For any function $f$ positive on $[a,b], a < b $, we have (just make a quick drawing) : $$(b-a) cdot undersetxin [a,b]min f(x) le int_a^b f(t) dt le (b-a)cdot undersetxin [a,b]max f(x) $$ Another way to see it is that the mean value of the function $f$ over $[a,b]$ is between the minimum and the maximum value of $f$ on this interval.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – yultan
                                                      Aug 12 '14 at 19:48











                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      Yes, but $x leq b_n$ and thus $frac1x geq frac1b_n$, but you need $frac1x leq frac1b_n$.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – PhoemueX
                                                      Aug 13 '14 at 8:14










                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      Sorry I made a mistake. You are right it should be with $b_n+1$. Initial answer corrected, though.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – yultan
                                                      Aug 13 '14 at 11:56













                                                    2












                                                    2








                                                    2





                                                    $begingroup$

                                                    First answer was wrong. Here is my new try :



                                                    If $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n$ is not $ 0 $ or does not exist, $sum fraca_nb_n$ is directly divergent.



                                                    Otherwise we have $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n = 0 $ so $b_n+1 sim b_n $ . It implies $sum fraca_nb_n = sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n$ and $sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1$ have the same behavior thanks to limit comparison test.



                                                    Now, since $b_n$ is decreasing and tends to $0$ as $nto+infty$, we can use an integral comparison :



                                                    $$ sum_n=1^N fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1 ge sum_n=1^N int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx = int_b_N+1^b_1 fracdxx = ln left(fracb_1b_N+1right) undersetNto+inftylongrightarrow+infty $$






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                                                    $endgroup$



                                                    First answer was wrong. Here is my new try :



                                                    If $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n$ is not $ 0 $ or does not exist, $sum fraca_nb_n$ is directly divergent.



                                                    Otherwise we have $undersetnto+inftylim fraca_nb_n = 0 $ so $b_n+1 sim b_n $ . It implies $sum fraca_nb_n = sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n$ and $sum fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1$ have the same behavior thanks to limit comparison test.



                                                    Now, since $b_n$ is decreasing and tends to $0$ as $nto+infty$, we can use an integral comparison :



                                                    $$ sum_n=1^N fracb_n-b_n+1b_n+1 ge sum_n=1^N int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx = int_b_N+1^b_1 fracdxx = ln left(fracb_1b_N+1right) undersetNto+inftylongrightarrow+infty $$







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                                                    edited Aug 13 '14 at 12:17

























                                                    answered Aug 12 '14 at 11:42









                                                    yultanyultan

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                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      please explain $displaystyle fracb_n-b_n+1b_n ge int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx$
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – Bhauryal
                                                      Aug 12 '14 at 16:58










                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      For any function $f$ positive on $[a,b], a < b $, we have (just make a quick drawing) : $$(b-a) cdot undersetxin [a,b]min f(x) le int_a^b f(t) dt le (b-a)cdot undersetxin [a,b]max f(x) $$ Another way to see it is that the mean value of the function $f$ over $[a,b]$ is between the minimum and the maximum value of $f$ on this interval.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – yultan
                                                      Aug 12 '14 at 19:48











                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      Yes, but $x leq b_n$ and thus $frac1x geq frac1b_n$, but you need $frac1x leq frac1b_n$.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – PhoemueX
                                                      Aug 13 '14 at 8:14










                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      Sorry I made a mistake. You are right it should be with $b_n+1$. Initial answer corrected, though.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – yultan
                                                      Aug 13 '14 at 11:56
















                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      please explain $displaystyle fracb_n-b_n+1b_n ge int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx$
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – Bhauryal
                                                      Aug 12 '14 at 16:58










                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      For any function $f$ positive on $[a,b], a < b $, we have (just make a quick drawing) : $$(b-a) cdot undersetxin [a,b]min f(x) le int_a^b f(t) dt le (b-a)cdot undersetxin [a,b]max f(x) $$ Another way to see it is that the mean value of the function $f$ over $[a,b]$ is between the minimum and the maximum value of $f$ on this interval.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – yultan
                                                      Aug 12 '14 at 19:48











                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      Yes, but $x leq b_n$ and thus $frac1x geq frac1b_n$, but you need $frac1x leq frac1b_n$.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – PhoemueX
                                                      Aug 13 '14 at 8:14










                                                    • $begingroup$
                                                      Sorry I made a mistake. You are right it should be with $b_n+1$. Initial answer corrected, though.
                                                      $endgroup$
                                                      – yultan
                                                      Aug 13 '14 at 11:56















                                                    $begingroup$
                                                    please explain $displaystyle fracb_n-b_n+1b_n ge int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx$
                                                    $endgroup$
                                                    – Bhauryal
                                                    Aug 12 '14 at 16:58




                                                    $begingroup$
                                                    please explain $displaystyle fracb_n-b_n+1b_n ge int_b_n+1^b_n fracdxx$
                                                    $endgroup$
                                                    – Bhauryal
                                                    Aug 12 '14 at 16:58












                                                    $begingroup$
                                                    For any function $f$ positive on $[a,b], a < b $, we have (just make a quick drawing) : $$(b-a) cdot undersetxin [a,b]min f(x) le int_a^b f(t) dt le (b-a)cdot undersetxin [a,b]max f(x) $$ Another way to see it is that the mean value of the function $f$ over $[a,b]$ is between the minimum and the maximum value of $f$ on this interval.
                                                    $endgroup$
                                                    – yultan
                                                    Aug 12 '14 at 19:48





                                                    $begingroup$
                                                    For any function $f$ positive on $[a,b], a < b $, we have (just make a quick drawing) : $$(b-a) cdot undersetxin [a,b]min f(x) le int_a^b f(t) dt le (b-a)cdot undersetxin [a,b]max f(x) $$ Another way to see it is that the mean value of the function $f$ over $[a,b]$ is between the minimum and the maximum value of $f$ on this interval.
                                                    $endgroup$
                                                    – yultan
                                                    Aug 12 '14 at 19:48













                                                    $begingroup$
                                                    Yes, but $x leq b_n$ and thus $frac1x geq frac1b_n$, but you need $frac1x leq frac1b_n$.
                                                    $endgroup$
                                                    – PhoemueX
                                                    Aug 13 '14 at 8:14




                                                    $begingroup$
                                                    Yes, but $x leq b_n$ and thus $frac1x geq frac1b_n$, but you need $frac1x leq frac1b_n$.
                                                    $endgroup$
                                                    – PhoemueX
                                                    Aug 13 '14 at 8:14












                                                    $begingroup$
                                                    Sorry I made a mistake. You are right it should be with $b_n+1$. Initial answer corrected, though.
                                                    $endgroup$
                                                    – yultan
                                                    Aug 13 '14 at 11:56




                                                    $begingroup$
                                                    Sorry I made a mistake. You are right it should be with $b_n+1$. Initial answer corrected, though.
                                                    $endgroup$
                                                    – yultan
                                                    Aug 13 '14 at 11:56

















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