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Is there computable model of finite fragments of ZFC?


Undecidability in ZFCFinite fragments of ZFC$ V_ kappa$ ( $ kappa $ inaccessible ) models there is a countable model of ZFCIs there a countable transitive model satisfying the same set of first-order sentences as $V$?For transitive model $M$, is $L^M$ really a model of ZFC?Exercise with transitive models of ZFCMinimal model of ZFC without power set axiomConsistency strength of a proposition about models of ZFCExistence of an inner model of ZFC implies $Con(ZFC)$?Arithmetic statements independent of ZFC and standard model of arithmetic













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There isn't a computable model of $ZFC$.

Because if there is it, then it produces a non-standard computable model of $PA$, but there isn't this model because of the tennenbaum's theorem.

However, robinson arithmetic $Q$ don't satisfies the tennenbaum's theorem.(ref.)

Thus we take a finite fragments of $ZFC$ such that it is with robinson arithmetic $Q$ and it is without $PA$.



Question:
Is there a computable model of this fragments?
If there is it, then how strong can it?



Thanks in advance.










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    So you're basically asking: how strong can a finite fragment of ZFC be while still having a computable model?
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There isn't a computable model of $ZFC$.

Because if there is it, then it produces a non-standard computable model of $PA$, but there isn't this model because of the tennenbaum's theorem.

However, robinson arithmetic $Q$ don't satisfies the tennenbaum's theorem.(ref.)

Thus we take a finite fragments of $ZFC$ such that it is with robinson arithmetic $Q$ and it is without $PA$.



Question:
Is there a computable model of this fragments?
If there is it, then how strong can it?



Thanks in advance.










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    So you're basically asking: how strong can a finite fragment of ZFC be while still having a computable model?
    $endgroup$
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There isn't a computable model of $ZFC$.

Because if there is it, then it produces a non-standard computable model of $PA$, but there isn't this model because of the tennenbaum's theorem.

However, robinson arithmetic $Q$ don't satisfies the tennenbaum's theorem.(ref.)

Thus we take a finite fragments of $ZFC$ such that it is with robinson arithmetic $Q$ and it is without $PA$.



Question:
Is there a computable model of this fragments?
If there is it, then how strong can it?



Thanks in advance.










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There isn't a computable model of $ZFC$.

Because if there is it, then it produces a non-standard computable model of $PA$, but there isn't this model because of the tennenbaum's theorem.

However, robinson arithmetic $Q$ don't satisfies the tennenbaum's theorem.(ref.)

Thus we take a finite fragments of $ZFC$ such that it is with robinson arithmetic $Q$ and it is without $PA$.



Question:
Is there a computable model of this fragments?
If there is it, then how strong can it?



Thanks in advance.







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    So you're basically asking: how strong can a finite fragment of ZFC be while still having a computable model?
    $endgroup$
    – Noah Schweber
    15 hours ago












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    $begingroup$
    So you're basically asking: how strong can a finite fragment of ZFC be while still having a computable model?
    $endgroup$
    – Noah Schweber
    15 hours ago







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So you're basically asking: how strong can a finite fragment of ZFC be while still having a computable model?
$endgroup$
– Noah Schweber
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So you're basically asking: how strong can a finite fragment of ZFC be while still having a computable model?
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