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Determinant of block matrix with commuting blocks


How to prove $det beginbmatrixA & B \ C & D endbmatrix =det(AD-BC)$, where $A, B, C,$ and $D$ are $ntimes n$ and commuting.Determinant of $14 times 14$ matrixDeterminant of a particular $3times 3$ block matrixThe determinant of a block Matrix of Order $2n$Block matrix determinant formulaDeterminant of a $2times 2$ block matrixBlock matrix determinant with symmetriclly placed blocksIn block-diagonal computation of the determinant, do the block sizes need to be equal?Determinant of block matricesHow to calculate a determinant of a 2x2 symmetry block matrix?Determinant of block matrix with off-diagonal blocks conjugate of each other.Determinant of non-triangular block matrixSimplification of determinant of block matrix













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I know that given a $2N times 2N$ block matrix with $N times N$ blocks like



$$mathbfS = beginpmatrix
A & B\
C & D
endpmatrix$$



we can calculate $$det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$$ and so clearly if $D$ and $C$ commute this reduces to $det(AD-BC)$, which is a very nice property.



My question is, for a general $nNtimes nN$ matrix with $Ntimes N$ blocks where all of the blocks commute with each other, can we find the determinant in a similar way? That is, by first finding the determinant treating the blocks like scalars and then taking the determinant of the resulting $Ntimes N$ matrix.



Thanks in advance!










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    If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
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$begingroup$


I know that given a $2N times 2N$ block matrix with $N times N$ blocks like



$$mathbfS = beginpmatrix
A & B\
C & D
endpmatrix$$



we can calculate $$det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$$ and so clearly if $D$ and $C$ commute this reduces to $det(AD-BC)$, which is a very nice property.



My question is, for a general $nNtimes nN$ matrix with $Ntimes N$ blocks where all of the blocks commute with each other, can we find the determinant in a similar way? That is, by first finding the determinant treating the blocks like scalars and then taking the determinant of the resulting $Ntimes N$ matrix.



Thanks in advance!










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  • $begingroup$
    If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
    $endgroup$
    – Sry
    Jun 20 '15 at 6:54













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$begingroup$


I know that given a $2N times 2N$ block matrix with $N times N$ blocks like



$$mathbfS = beginpmatrix
A & B\
C & D
endpmatrix$$



we can calculate $$det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$$ and so clearly if $D$ and $C$ commute this reduces to $det(AD-BC)$, which is a very nice property.



My question is, for a general $nNtimes nN$ matrix with $Ntimes N$ blocks where all of the blocks commute with each other, can we find the determinant in a similar way? That is, by first finding the determinant treating the blocks like scalars and then taking the determinant of the resulting $Ntimes N$ matrix.



Thanks in advance!










share|cite|improve this question











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I know that given a $2N times 2N$ block matrix with $N times N$ blocks like



$$mathbfS = beginpmatrix
A & B\
C & D
endpmatrix$$



we can calculate $$det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$$ and so clearly if $D$ and $C$ commute this reduces to $det(AD-BC)$, which is a very nice property.



My question is, for a general $nNtimes nN$ matrix with $Ntimes N$ blocks where all of the blocks commute with each other, can we find the determinant in a similar way? That is, by first finding the determinant treating the blocks like scalars and then taking the determinant of the resulting $Ntimes N$ matrix.



Thanks in advance!







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    If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
    $endgroup$
    – Sry
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  • $begingroup$
    If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
    $endgroup$
    – Sry
    Jun 20 '15 at 6:54















$begingroup$
If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
$endgroup$
– Sry
Jun 20 '15 at 6:54




$begingroup$
If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
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Jun 20 '15 at 6:54










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The answer is affirmative. See, e.g., theorem 1 of John Silvester, Determinants of Block Matrices.






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