Determinant of block matrix with commuting blocksHow to prove $det beginbmatrixA & B \ C & D endbmatrix =det(AD-BC)$, where $A, B, C,$ and $D$ are $ntimes n$ and commuting.Determinant of $14 times 14$ matrixDeterminant of a particular $3times 3$ block matrixThe determinant of a block Matrix of Order $2n$Block matrix determinant formulaDeterminant of a $2times 2$ block matrixBlock matrix determinant with symmetriclly placed blocksIn block-diagonal computation of the determinant, do the block sizes need to be equal?Determinant of block matricesHow to calculate a determinant of a 2x2 symmetry block matrix?Determinant of block matrix with off-diagonal blocks conjugate of each other.Determinant of non-triangular block matrixSimplification of determinant of block matrix
What does *dead* mean in *What do you mean, dead?*?
Is it appropriate to ask a former professor to order a library book for me through ILL?
Vector-transposing function
What is the purpose of a disclaimer like "this is not legal advice"?
What can I do if someone tampers with my SSH public key?
Is the differential, dp, exact or not?
How do you make a gun that shoots melee weapons and/or swords?
Tabular environment - text vertically positions itself by bottom of tikz picture in adjacent cell
What is the oldest European royal house?
Unfamiliar notation in Diabelli's "Duet in D" for piano
Does an unused member variable take up memory?
How does a sound wave propagate?
How can I portion out frozen cookie dough?
Does the US political system, in principle, allow for a no-party system?
What is the orbit and expected lifetime of Crew Dragon trunk?
Too soon for a plot twist?
How to distinguish easily different soldier of ww2?
Why do we call complex numbers “numbers” but we don’t consider 2-vectors numbers?
Why is there an extra space when I type "ls" on the Desktop?
Was it really inappropriate to write a pull request for the company I interviewed with?
Why aren't there more Gauls like Obelix?
Why restrict private health insurance?
Boss Telling direct supervisor I snitched
An Undercover Army
Determinant of block matrix with commuting blocks
How to prove $det beginbmatrixA & B \ C & D endbmatrix =det(AD-BC)$, where $A, B, C,$ and $D$ are $ntimes n$ and commuting.Determinant of $14 times 14$ matrixDeterminant of a particular $3times 3$ block matrixThe determinant of a block Matrix of Order $2n$Block matrix determinant formulaDeterminant of a $2times 2$ block matrixBlock matrix determinant with symmetriclly placed blocksIn block-diagonal computation of the determinant, do the block sizes need to be equal?Determinant of block matricesHow to calculate a determinant of a 2x2 symmetry block matrix?Determinant of block matrix with off-diagonal blocks conjugate of each other.Determinant of non-triangular block matrixSimplification of determinant of block matrix
$begingroup$
I know that given a $2N times 2N$ block matrix with $N times N$ blocks like
$$mathbfS = beginpmatrix
A & B\
C & D
endpmatrix$$
we can calculate $$det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$$ and so clearly if $D$ and $C$ commute this reduces to $det(AD-BC)$, which is a very nice property.
My question is, for a general $nNtimes nN$ matrix with $Ntimes N$ blocks where all of the blocks commute with each other, can we find the determinant in a similar way? That is, by first finding the determinant treating the blocks like scalars and then taking the determinant of the resulting $Ntimes N$ matrix.
Thanks in advance!
matrices determinant block-matrices
$endgroup$
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I know that given a $2N times 2N$ block matrix with $N times N$ blocks like
$$mathbfS = beginpmatrix
A & B\
C & D
endpmatrix$$
we can calculate $$det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$$ and so clearly if $D$ and $C$ commute this reduces to $det(AD-BC)$, which is a very nice property.
My question is, for a general $nNtimes nN$ matrix with $Ntimes N$ blocks where all of the blocks commute with each other, can we find the determinant in a similar way? That is, by first finding the determinant treating the blocks like scalars and then taking the determinant of the resulting $Ntimes N$ matrix.
Thanks in advance!
matrices determinant block-matrices
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
$endgroup$
– Sry
Jun 20 '15 at 6:54
add a comment |
$begingroup$
I know that given a $2N times 2N$ block matrix with $N times N$ blocks like
$$mathbfS = beginpmatrix
A & B\
C & D
endpmatrix$$
we can calculate $$det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$$ and so clearly if $D$ and $C$ commute this reduces to $det(AD-BC)$, which is a very nice property.
My question is, for a general $nNtimes nN$ matrix with $Ntimes N$ blocks where all of the blocks commute with each other, can we find the determinant in a similar way? That is, by first finding the determinant treating the blocks like scalars and then taking the determinant of the resulting $Ntimes N$ matrix.
Thanks in advance!
matrices determinant block-matrices
$endgroup$
I know that given a $2N times 2N$ block matrix with $N times N$ blocks like
$$mathbfS = beginpmatrix
A & B\
C & D
endpmatrix$$
we can calculate $$det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$$ and so clearly if $D$ and $C$ commute this reduces to $det(AD-BC)$, which is a very nice property.
My question is, for a general $nNtimes nN$ matrix with $Ntimes N$ blocks where all of the blocks commute with each other, can we find the determinant in a similar way? That is, by first finding the determinant treating the blocks like scalars and then taking the determinant of the resulting $Ntimes N$ matrix.
Thanks in advance!
matrices determinant block-matrices
matrices determinant block-matrices
edited 15 hours ago
Rodrigo de Azevedo
13.1k41960
13.1k41960
asked May 24 '15 at 5:53
GordonGordon
353
353
$begingroup$
If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
$endgroup$
– Sry
Jun 20 '15 at 6:54
add a comment |
$begingroup$
If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
$endgroup$
– Sry
Jun 20 '15 at 6:54
$begingroup$
If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
$endgroup$
– Sry
Jun 20 '15 at 6:54
$begingroup$
If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
$endgroup$
– Sry
Jun 20 '15 at 6:54
add a comment |
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
The answer is affirmative. See, e.g., theorem 1 of John Silvester, Determinants of Block Matrices.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Great! Thanks for the reference
$endgroup$
– Gordon
May 24 '15 at 9:33
add a comment |
Your Answer
StackExchange.ifUsing("editor", function ()
return StackExchange.using("mathjaxEditing", function ()
StackExchange.MarkdownEditor.creationCallbacks.add(function (editor, postfix)
StackExchange.mathjaxEditing.prepareWmdForMathJax(editor, postfix, [["$", "$"], ["\\(","\\)"]]);
);
);
, "mathjax-editing");
StackExchange.ready(function()
var channelOptions =
tags: "".split(" "),
id: "69"
;
initTagRenderer("".split(" "), "".split(" "), channelOptions);
StackExchange.using("externalEditor", function()
// Have to fire editor after snippets, if snippets enabled
if (StackExchange.settings.snippets.snippetsEnabled)
StackExchange.using("snippets", function()
createEditor();
);
else
createEditor();
);
function createEditor()
StackExchange.prepareEditor(
heartbeatType: 'answer',
autoActivateHeartbeat: false,
convertImagesToLinks: true,
noModals: true,
showLowRepImageUploadWarning: true,
reputationToPostImages: 10,
bindNavPrevention: true,
postfix: "",
imageUploader:
brandingHtml: "Powered by u003ca class="icon-imgur-white" href="https://imgur.com/"u003eu003c/au003e",
contentPolicyHtml: "User contributions licensed under u003ca href="https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/3.0/"u003ecc by-sa 3.0 with attribution requiredu003c/au003e u003ca href="https://stackoverflow.com/legal/content-policy"u003e(content policy)u003c/au003e",
allowUrls: true
,
noCode: true, onDemand: true,
discardSelector: ".discard-answer"
,immediatelyShowMarkdownHelp:true
);
);
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f1296257%2fdeterminant-of-block-matrix-with-commuting-blocks%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
1 Answer
1
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
active
oldest
votes
$begingroup$
The answer is affirmative. See, e.g., theorem 1 of John Silvester, Determinants of Block Matrices.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Great! Thanks for the reference
$endgroup$
– Gordon
May 24 '15 at 9:33
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The answer is affirmative. See, e.g., theorem 1 of John Silvester, Determinants of Block Matrices.
$endgroup$
$begingroup$
Great! Thanks for the reference
$endgroup$
– Gordon
May 24 '15 at 9:33
add a comment |
$begingroup$
The answer is affirmative. See, e.g., theorem 1 of John Silvester, Determinants of Block Matrices.
$endgroup$
The answer is affirmative. See, e.g., theorem 1 of John Silvester, Determinants of Block Matrices.
edited Mar 10 '16 at 10:50
community wiki
2 revs
user1551
$begingroup$
Great! Thanks for the reference
$endgroup$
– Gordon
May 24 '15 at 9:33
add a comment |
$begingroup$
Great! Thanks for the reference
$endgroup$
– Gordon
May 24 '15 at 9:33
$begingroup$
Great! Thanks for the reference
$endgroup$
– Gordon
May 24 '15 at 9:33
$begingroup$
Great! Thanks for the reference
$endgroup$
– Gordon
May 24 '15 at 9:33
add a comment |
Thanks for contributing an answer to Mathematics Stack Exchange!
- Please be sure to answer the question. Provide details and share your research!
But avoid …
- Asking for help, clarification, or responding to other answers.
- Making statements based on opinion; back them up with references or personal experience.
Use MathJax to format equations. MathJax reference.
To learn more, see our tips on writing great answers.
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
StackExchange.ready(
function ()
StackExchange.openid.initPostLogin('.new-post-login', 'https%3a%2f%2fmath.stackexchange.com%2fquestions%2f1296257%2fdeterminant-of-block-matrix-with-commuting-blocks%23new-answer', 'question_page');
);
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Sign up or log in
StackExchange.ready(function ()
StackExchange.helpers.onClickDraftSave('#login-link');
);
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Sign up using Google
Sign up using Facebook
Sign up using Email and Password
Post as a guest
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
Required, but never shown
$begingroup$
If $D$ is not invertible then what about this identity $det(mathbfS)=det(AD-BD^-1CD)$
$endgroup$
– Sry
Jun 20 '15 at 6:54