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Is $(a+bX,X)$ jointly normal when $X$ is normal?
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Let $X$ be a normal random variable and $Y=a+bX$, where $a,b$ are just some constants.
Then, is it true that $(Y,X)$ are jointly normal? If yes, how can I easily see that?
Thanks!
probability probability-theory normal-distribution
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Let $X$ be a normal random variable and $Y=a+bX$, where $a,b$ are just some constants.
Then, is it true that $(Y,X)$ are jointly normal? If yes, how can I easily see that?
Thanks!
probability probability-theory normal-distribution
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Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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– callculus
Mar 15 at 17:23
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Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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Mar 15 at 17:30
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@callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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Let $X$ be a normal random variable and $Y=a+bX$, where $a,b$ are just some constants.
Then, is it true that $(Y,X)$ are jointly normal? If yes, how can I easily see that?
Thanks!
probability probability-theory normal-distribution
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Let $X$ be a normal random variable and $Y=a+bX$, where $a,b$ are just some constants.
Then, is it true that $(Y,X)$ are jointly normal? If yes, how can I easily see that?
Thanks!
probability probability-theory normal-distribution
probability probability-theory normal-distribution
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Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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– callculus
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Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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– S_Z
Mar 15 at 17:30
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@callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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– StubbornAtom
Mar 15 at 17:39
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Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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– callculus
Mar 15 at 17:23
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Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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– S_Z
Mar 15 at 17:30
1
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@callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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– StubbornAtom
Mar 15 at 17:39
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Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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– callculus
Mar 15 at 17:23
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Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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– callculus
Mar 15 at 17:23
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Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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– S_Z
Mar 15 at 17:30
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Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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– S_Z
Mar 15 at 17:30
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1
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@callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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– StubbornAtom
Mar 15 at 17:39
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@callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.
Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is
beginalign
Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
endalign
Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.
The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.
You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.
For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.
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The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:
Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
$i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
(i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
as jointly normal.
We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
(i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.
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I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:
$(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )
$(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$
$(Y|X=x) =
left{
beginarraycc
x & p=1 \
o.w & p=0
endarray
right.
$ $hspace1cm$ (1)
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
=int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
$
so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$
$f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$
this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.
to say yes you should check this:
$X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist
$mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$
to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
=A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $
go and find $A$ and check this:
( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!
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Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.
Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is
beginalign
Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
endalign
Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.
The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.
You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.
For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.
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Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.
Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is
beginalign
Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
endalign
Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.
The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.
You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.
For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.
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Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.
Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is
beginalign
Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
endalign
Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.
The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.
You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.
For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.
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Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.
Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is
beginalign
Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
endalign
Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.
The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.
You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.
For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.
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The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:
Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
$i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
(i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
as jointly normal.
We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
(i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.
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The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:
Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
$i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
(i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
as jointly normal.
We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
(i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.
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The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:
Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
$i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
(i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
as jointly normal.
We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
(i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.
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The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:
Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
$i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
(i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
as jointly normal.
We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
(i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.
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I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:
$(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )
$(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$
$(Y|X=x) =
left{
beginarraycc
x & p=1 \
o.w & p=0
endarray
right.
$ $hspace1cm$ (1)
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
=int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
$
so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$
$f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$
this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.
to say yes you should check this:
$X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist
$mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$
to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
=A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $
go and find $A$ and check this:
( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!
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I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:
$(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )
$(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$
$(Y|X=x) =
left{
beginarraycc
x & p=1 \
o.w & p=0
endarray
right.
$ $hspace1cm$ (1)
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
=int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
$
so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$
$f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$
this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.
to say yes you should check this:
$X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist
$mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$
to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
=A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $
go and find $A$ and check this:
( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!
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I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:
$(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )
$(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$
$(Y|X=x) =
left{
beginarraycc
x & p=1 \
o.w & p=0
endarray
right.
$ $hspace1cm$ (1)
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
=int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
$
so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$
$f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$
this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.
to say yes you should check this:
$X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist
$mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$
to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
=A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $
go and find $A$ and check this:
( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!
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I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:
$(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )
$(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$
$(Y|X=x) =
left{
beginarraycc
x & p=1 \
o.w & p=0
endarray
right.
$ $hspace1cm$ (1)
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
=int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
$
so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.
$F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$
$f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$
this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.
to say yes you should check this:
$X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist
$mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$
to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
=A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $
go and find $A$ and check this:
( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal
$(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
$left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!
edited Mar 16 at 0:11
answered Mar 15 at 19:41
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Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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– callculus
Mar 15 at 17:23
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Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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– S_Z
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@callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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– StubbornAtom
Mar 15 at 17:39