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Let $X$ be a normal random variable and $Y=a+bX$, where $a,b$ are just some constants.



Then, is it true that $(Y,X)$ are jointly normal? If yes, how can I easily see that?



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    Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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    Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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    @callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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Let $X$ be a normal random variable and $Y=a+bX$, where $a,b$ are just some constants.



Then, is it true that $(Y,X)$ are jointly normal? If yes, how can I easily see that?



Thanks!










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    Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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    Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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    @callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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Let $X$ be a normal random variable and $Y=a+bX$, where $a,b$ are just some constants.



Then, is it true that $(Y,X)$ are jointly normal? If yes, how can I easily see that?



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Let $X$ be a normal random variable and $Y=a+bX$, where $a,b$ are just some constants.



Then, is it true that $(Y,X)$ are jointly normal? If yes, how can I easily see that?



Thanks!







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    Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
    $endgroup$
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    @callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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    Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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    Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
    $endgroup$
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    @callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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Just follow the calculation which is made here by Did
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Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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Too complicated. But maybe I got it now, can you confirm: As Y is linear in X, all linear combinations of X and Y are linear in X and hence normal. Per definition, if all linear combinations of two normal variables (here: X,Y) are normal, they are jointly normal.
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@callculus In that link, $Ymid X$ is normal. Here, $Y$ is normal.
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Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.



Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is



beginalign
Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
endalign



Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.



The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.



You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.



For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.






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    The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:



    Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
    a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
    there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
    such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
    $i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
    (i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
    Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
    as jointly normal.



    We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
    (i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
    then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
    so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.






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      I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:



      $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )



      $(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$



      $(Y|X=x) =
      left{
      beginarraycc
      x & p=1 \
      o.w & p=0
      endarray
      right.
      $
      $hspace1cm$ (1)



      $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
      =int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
      int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
      int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
      int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
      int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
      int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
      $



      so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.



      $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$



      $f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$



      this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.



      to say yes you should check this:



      $X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist



      $mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$



      to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that



      $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
      =A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $



      go and find $A$ and check this:



      ( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
      and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )



      $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal



      $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
      $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
      conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!






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        Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.



        Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is



        beginalign
        Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
        endalign



        Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.



        The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.



        You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.



        For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.






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          Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.



          Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is



          beginalign
          Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
          endalign



          Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.



          The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.



          You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.



          For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.






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            Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.



            Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is



            beginalign
            Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
            endalign



            Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.



            The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.



            You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.



            For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.






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            Suppose $Xsim N(mu,sigma^2)$.



            Then the dispersion matrix of $(Y,X)$ is



            beginalign
            Sigma=sigma^2beginpmatrixb^2 & b \ b & 1 endpmatrix
            endalign



            Since $Sigma$ does not have full rank, the joint distribution of $(Y,X)$ is a degenerate bivariate normal.



            The degenerate bivariate normal is not expected to possess all the regular properties of the usual (nonsingular) bivariate normal. Notably, $(Y,X)$ does not enjoy a joint density.



            You can see this from the fact that the correlation $rho$ between $Y$ and $X$ satisfies $rho^2=1$. In other words there exists a perfect linear relationship between $Y$ and $X$, with the random point $(Y,X)$ falling on a fixed line with probability one.



            For details on this degenerate distribution, check out this excellent post on Cross Validated.







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                The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:



                Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
                a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
                there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
                such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
                $i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
                (i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
                Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
                as jointly normal.



                We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
                (i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
                then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
                so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.






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                  The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:



                  Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
                  a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
                  there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
                  such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
                  $i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
                  (i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
                  Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
                  as jointly normal.



                  We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
                  (i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
                  then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
                  so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.






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                    The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:



                    Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
                    a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
                    there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
                    such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
                    $i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
                    (i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
                    Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
                    as jointly normal.



                    We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
                    (i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
                    then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
                    so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.






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                    The answer is Yes. One of the equivalent definition of jointly normal is as follow:



                    Let $(Omega,mathcalF,P)$ be a probability space. We say that
                    a random vector $(X_1,X_2,ldots,X_m)$ is jointly normal if
                    there exist independent random variables $Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
                    such that $Z_jsim N(0,1)$ for each $j=1,ldots,n$ and for each
                    $i=1,ldots,m$, $X_iinmboxspan1, Z_1,Z_2,ldots,Z_n$
                    (i.e., $X_i=sum_j=1^nalpha_ijZ_j+beta_i$ for some $alpha_ij,beta_iinmathbbR$).
                    Beware of degerated cases, for example, $(0,0,ldots,0)$ is regarded
                    as jointly normal.



                    We go back to your case. Suppose that the given $X$ is not degenerated
                    (i.e., $sigma_X>0$). Define $Z=fracX-mu_Xsigma_X$,
                    then $Zsim N(0,1)$. Now $a+bXinmboxspan(Z)$ and $Xinmboxspan(Z)$,
                    so $(a+bX,X)$ is jointly normal.







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                        I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:



                        $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )



                        $(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$



                        $(Y|X=x) =
                        left{
                        beginarraycc
                        x & p=1 \
                        o.w & p=0
                        endarray
                        right.
                        $
                        $hspace1cm$ (1)



                        $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
                        =int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
                        int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                        int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                        int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                        int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                        int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
                        $



                        so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.



                        $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$



                        $f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$



                        this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.



                        to say yes you should check this:



                        $X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist



                        $mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$



                        to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that



                        $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
                        =A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $



                        go and find $A$ and check this:



                        ( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
                        and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )



                        $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal



                        $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
                        $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
                        conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!






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                          I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:



                          $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )



                          $(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$



                          $(Y|X=x) =
                          left{
                          beginarraycc
                          x & p=1 \
                          o.w & p=0
                          endarray
                          right.
                          $
                          $hspace1cm$ (1)



                          $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
                          =int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
                          int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                          int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                          int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                          int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                          int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
                          $



                          so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.



                          $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$



                          $f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$



                          this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.



                          to say yes you should check this:



                          $X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist



                          $mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$



                          to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that



                          $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
                          =A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $



                          go and find $A$ and check this:



                          ( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
                          and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )



                          $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal



                          $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
                          $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
                          conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!






                          share|cite|improve this answer











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                            I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:



                            $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )



                            $(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$



                            $(Y|X=x) =
                            left{
                            beginarraycc
                            x & p=1 \
                            o.w & p=0
                            endarray
                            right.
                            $
                            $hspace1cm$ (1)



                            $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
                            =int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
                            int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                            int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                            int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                            int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                            int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
                            $



                            so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.



                            $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$



                            $f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$



                            this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.



                            to say yes you should check this:



                            $X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist



                            $mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$



                            to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that



                            $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
                            =A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $



                            go and find $A$ and check this:



                            ( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
                            and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )



                            $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal



                            $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
                            $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
                            conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!






                            share|cite|improve this answer











                            $endgroup$



                            I have some doubt to say no or yes. but I can say:



                            $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density ( singular distribution )



                            $(a+bX,X)$ has not joint density$



                            $(Y|X=x) =
                            left{
                            beginarraycc
                            x & p=1 \
                            o.w & p=0
                            endarray
                            right.
                            $
                            $hspace1cm$ (1)



                            $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=P(Xleq x, Yleq y)=P(A)=E(I_A)=E(E(I_A)|X)
                            =int E(I_A|X=t) f_X(t) dt=int E(I_(Xleq x, Yleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dtoverset(1)=
                            int E(I_(Xleq x, a+bXleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                            int E(I_(tleq x, a+btleq y)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                            int E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                            int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(I_(tleq x, tleq fracy-ab)|X=t) f_X(t) dt+0=int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) E(1|X=t) f_X(t) dt=
                            int_-infty^min(x,fracy-ab) f_X(t) dt=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))
                            $



                            so it easy now to say $(a+bX,X)$ have not joint density.



                            $F_(X,Y)(x,y)=F_X(min(x,fracy-ab))$



                            $f_(X,Y)(x,y)=fracd^2dx dyF_(X,Y)(x,y)=0$



                            this is a singular distribution. so , p.d.f of(X,Y) are not normal density.



                            to say yes you should check this:



                            $X_ktimes 1 sim N(mu_ktimes 1, Sigma) iff $ there exist



                            $mu in R^k $ and $A_Ktimes L in R^ktimes L$ such that $X_Ktimes 1=A_Ktimes LZ_Ltimes 1+mu_Ktimes 1 $ for $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$



                            to say yes ,so you should find $A$ such that



                            $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]
                            =A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 +mu $



                            go and find $A$ and check this:



                            ( $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$
                            and $A_2times L Z_Ltimes 1 $ have a same family and $Z_noverseti.i.dsim N(0,1)$ "i.i.d" )



                            $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal



                            $(Y|X=x)$ is not a normal . it is a degenerated in point $x$. if you say
                            $left[ beginarrayc X \ a+bX endarray right]$ is joint normal so
                            conditional distribution should be normal. note that conditional distribution exists and not normal!







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