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I'm trying to solve the following question:
Find the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues of the following integral operator:
beginequation
Ku(x) = int_0^pi(sin(x)sin(y)+alphacos(x)cos(y))u(y) dy.
endequation
My attempted solution is as follows:
Let $(lambda, u)$ be such an eigenpair. Then,
beginalign
lambda u(x) & = int_0^pi(sin(x)sin(y)+alphacos(x)cos(y))u(y)dy \
& = sin(x)int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy + alpha cos(x)int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
We convert the above equation into a differential equation. Differentiating twice, we get,
beginequation
lambda u^''(x) = - u(x).
endequation
As $lambda = 0$ is clearly not an eigenvalue (if not, then the only possible eigenfunction is $u = 0$ almost everywhere), we have the general solution is,
beginequation
u(x) = Asinbigg(fracxsqrtlambdabigg) + Bcosbigg(fracxsqrtlambdabigg).
endequation
We need two boundary conditions. From the eigenvalue equation above, we have,
beginalign
u(0) & = fracalphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
u(pi) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
However, I don't how to proceed from here. The boundary conditions above are functions of $u$.
Please provide relevant hints. This is a homework problem, and I would like to finish it on my own.
functional-analysis eigenvalues-eigenvectors
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I'm trying to solve the following question:
Find the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues of the following integral operator:
beginequation
Ku(x) = int_0^pi(sin(x)sin(y)+alphacos(x)cos(y))u(y) dy.
endequation
My attempted solution is as follows:
Let $(lambda, u)$ be such an eigenpair. Then,
beginalign
lambda u(x) & = int_0^pi(sin(x)sin(y)+alphacos(x)cos(y))u(y)dy \
& = sin(x)int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy + alpha cos(x)int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
We convert the above equation into a differential equation. Differentiating twice, we get,
beginequation
lambda u^''(x) = - u(x).
endequation
As $lambda = 0$ is clearly not an eigenvalue (if not, then the only possible eigenfunction is $u = 0$ almost everywhere), we have the general solution is,
beginequation
u(x) = Asinbigg(fracxsqrtlambdabigg) + Bcosbigg(fracxsqrtlambdabigg).
endequation
We need two boundary conditions. From the eigenvalue equation above, we have,
beginalign
u(0) & = fracalphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
u(pi) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
However, I don't how to proceed from here. The boundary conditions above are functions of $u$.
Please provide relevant hints. This is a homework problem, and I would like to finish it on my own.
functional-analysis eigenvalues-eigenvectors
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You got $u(0)=-u(pi)$. One more boundary condition and you will be able to eliminate $A$ and $B$ in the general solution, concluding the exercise.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Mar 11 at 10:14
add a comment |
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I'm trying to solve the following question:
Find the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues of the following integral operator:
beginequation
Ku(x) = int_0^pi(sin(x)sin(y)+alphacos(x)cos(y))u(y) dy.
endequation
My attempted solution is as follows:
Let $(lambda, u)$ be such an eigenpair. Then,
beginalign
lambda u(x) & = int_0^pi(sin(x)sin(y)+alphacos(x)cos(y))u(y)dy \
& = sin(x)int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy + alpha cos(x)int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
We convert the above equation into a differential equation. Differentiating twice, we get,
beginequation
lambda u^''(x) = - u(x).
endequation
As $lambda = 0$ is clearly not an eigenvalue (if not, then the only possible eigenfunction is $u = 0$ almost everywhere), we have the general solution is,
beginequation
u(x) = Asinbigg(fracxsqrtlambdabigg) + Bcosbigg(fracxsqrtlambdabigg).
endequation
We need two boundary conditions. From the eigenvalue equation above, we have,
beginalign
u(0) & = fracalphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
u(pi) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
However, I don't how to proceed from here. The boundary conditions above are functions of $u$.
Please provide relevant hints. This is a homework problem, and I would like to finish it on my own.
functional-analysis eigenvalues-eigenvectors
$endgroup$
I'm trying to solve the following question:
Find the eigenfunctions and eigenvalues of the following integral operator:
beginequation
Ku(x) = int_0^pi(sin(x)sin(y)+alphacos(x)cos(y))u(y) dy.
endequation
My attempted solution is as follows:
Let $(lambda, u)$ be such an eigenpair. Then,
beginalign
lambda u(x) & = int_0^pi(sin(x)sin(y)+alphacos(x)cos(y))u(y)dy \
& = sin(x)int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy + alpha cos(x)int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
We convert the above equation into a differential equation. Differentiating twice, we get,
beginequation
lambda u^''(x) = - u(x).
endequation
As $lambda = 0$ is clearly not an eigenvalue (if not, then the only possible eigenfunction is $u = 0$ almost everywhere), we have the general solution is,
beginequation
u(x) = Asinbigg(fracxsqrtlambdabigg) + Bcosbigg(fracxsqrtlambdabigg).
endequation
We need two boundary conditions. From the eigenvalue equation above, we have,
beginalign
u(0) & = fracalphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
u(pi) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
However, I don't how to proceed from here. The boundary conditions above are functions of $u$.
Please provide relevant hints. This is a homework problem, and I would like to finish it on my own.
functional-analysis eigenvalues-eigenvectors
functional-analysis eigenvalues-eigenvectors
edited Mar 11 at 10:08
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You got $u(0)=-u(pi)$. One more boundary condition and you will be able to eliminate $A$ and $B$ in the general solution, concluding the exercise.
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– Giuseppe Negro
Mar 11 at 10:14
add a comment |
1
$begingroup$
You got $u(0)=-u(pi)$. One more boundary condition and you will be able to eliminate $A$ and $B$ in the general solution, concluding the exercise.
$endgroup$
– Giuseppe Negro
Mar 11 at 10:14
1
1
$begingroup$
You got $u(0)=-u(pi)$. One more boundary condition and you will be able to eliminate $A$ and $B$ in the general solution, concluding the exercise.
$endgroup$
– Giuseppe Negro
Mar 11 at 10:14
$begingroup$
You got $u(0)=-u(pi)$. One more boundary condition and you will be able to eliminate $A$ and $B$ in the general solution, concluding the exercise.
$endgroup$
– Giuseppe Negro
Mar 11 at 10:14
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There is a error, you have that
beginalign
u(0) & = fracalphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
u(pi) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(0)=-u(pi)$. Another condition can be
beginalign
u(fracpi2) & = fracalphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
u(frac3pi2) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(fracpi2)=-u(frac3pi2)$
But
$u(0)=Asin(frac0sqrtlambda)+Bcos(frac0sqrtlambda)=B$
and
$u(pi)= Asin(fracpisqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpisqrtlambda)$
So you have that
$Asin(fracpisqrtlambda) =-B(1+cos(fracpisqrtlambda))$
To the other hand
$u(fracpi2)=Asin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
while
$u(frac3pi2)= Asin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) +Bcos(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) $
so
$A(sin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+sin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda))=-B(cos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) + cos(3fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
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How did you get rid of the factor of $sin$ in the equation for $u(pi)$. We haven't assumed $lambda$ is an integer.
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– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:43
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Ops, you’re right. Thanks you
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– Federico Fallucca
Mar 11 at 10:48
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I can't quite figure out how to deal with the case $A neq 0, B neq 0$. In that case, I have two equations in three unknowns, $A, B$ and $lambda$.
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– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:51
1
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I think I get you mean you mean. We can plug the general solution in the eigenvalue equation to make the above argument sufficient as well, and get the answer.
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Mar 11 at 10:58
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There is a error, you have that
beginalign
u(0) & = fracalphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
u(pi) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(0)=-u(pi)$. Another condition can be
beginalign
u(fracpi2) & = fracalphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
u(frac3pi2) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(fracpi2)=-u(frac3pi2)$
But
$u(0)=Asin(frac0sqrtlambda)+Bcos(frac0sqrtlambda)=B$
and
$u(pi)= Asin(fracpisqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpisqrtlambda)$
So you have that
$Asin(fracpisqrtlambda) =-B(1+cos(fracpisqrtlambda))$
To the other hand
$u(fracpi2)=Asin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
while
$u(frac3pi2)= Asin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) +Bcos(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) $
so
$A(sin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+sin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda))=-B(cos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) + cos(3fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
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How did you get rid of the factor of $sin$ in the equation for $u(pi)$. We haven't assumed $lambda$ is an integer.
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– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:43
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Ops, you’re right. Thanks you
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– Federico Fallucca
Mar 11 at 10:48
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I can't quite figure out how to deal with the case $A neq 0, B neq 0$. In that case, I have two equations in three unknowns, $A, B$ and $lambda$.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:51
1
$begingroup$
I think I get you mean you mean. We can plug the general solution in the eigenvalue equation to make the above argument sufficient as well, and get the answer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:58
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There is a error, you have that
beginalign
u(0) & = fracalphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
u(pi) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(0)=-u(pi)$. Another condition can be
beginalign
u(fracpi2) & = fracalphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
u(frac3pi2) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(fracpi2)=-u(frac3pi2)$
But
$u(0)=Asin(frac0sqrtlambda)+Bcos(frac0sqrtlambda)=B$
and
$u(pi)= Asin(fracpisqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpisqrtlambda)$
So you have that
$Asin(fracpisqrtlambda) =-B(1+cos(fracpisqrtlambda))$
To the other hand
$u(fracpi2)=Asin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
while
$u(frac3pi2)= Asin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) +Bcos(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) $
so
$A(sin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+sin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda))=-B(cos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) + cos(3fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
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How did you get rid of the factor of $sin$ in the equation for $u(pi)$. We haven't assumed $lambda$ is an integer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:43
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Ops, you’re right. Thanks you
$endgroup$
– Federico Fallucca
Mar 11 at 10:48
$begingroup$
I can't quite figure out how to deal with the case $A neq 0, B neq 0$. In that case, I have two equations in three unknowns, $A, B$ and $lambda$.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:51
1
$begingroup$
I think I get you mean you mean. We can plug the general solution in the eigenvalue equation to make the above argument sufficient as well, and get the answer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:58
add a comment |
$begingroup$
There is a error, you have that
beginalign
u(0) & = fracalphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
u(pi) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(0)=-u(pi)$. Another condition can be
beginalign
u(fracpi2) & = fracalphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
u(frac3pi2) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(fracpi2)=-u(frac3pi2)$
But
$u(0)=Asin(frac0sqrtlambda)+Bcos(frac0sqrtlambda)=B$
and
$u(pi)= Asin(fracpisqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpisqrtlambda)$
So you have that
$Asin(fracpisqrtlambda) =-B(1+cos(fracpisqrtlambda))$
To the other hand
$u(fracpi2)=Asin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
while
$u(frac3pi2)= Asin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) +Bcos(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) $
so
$A(sin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+sin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda))=-B(cos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) + cos(3fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
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There is a error, you have that
beginalign
u(0) & = fracalphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
u(pi) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^picos(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(0)=-u(pi)$. Another condition can be
beginalign
u(fracpi2) & = fracalphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
u(frac3pi2) & = frac-alphalambda int_0^pisin(y)u(y)dy \
endalign
So $u(fracpi2)=-u(frac3pi2)$
But
$u(0)=Asin(frac0sqrtlambda)+Bcos(frac0sqrtlambda)=B$
and
$u(pi)= Asin(fracpisqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpisqrtlambda)$
So you have that
$Asin(fracpisqrtlambda) =-B(1+cos(fracpisqrtlambda))$
To the other hand
$u(fracpi2)=Asin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+Bcos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
while
$u(frac3pi2)= Asin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) +Bcos(frac3pi2sqrtlambda) $
so
$A(sin(fracpi2sqrtlambda)+sin(frac3pi2sqrtlambda))=-B(cos(fracpi2sqrtlambda) + cos(3fracpi2sqrtlambda) $
edited Mar 11 at 10:56
answered Mar 11 at 10:23
Federico FalluccaFederico Fallucca
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How did you get rid of the factor of $sin$ in the equation for $u(pi)$. We haven't assumed $lambda$ is an integer.
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– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:43
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Ops, you’re right. Thanks you
$endgroup$
– Federico Fallucca
Mar 11 at 10:48
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I can't quite figure out how to deal with the case $A neq 0, B neq 0$. In that case, I have two equations in three unknowns, $A, B$ and $lambda$.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:51
1
$begingroup$
I think I get you mean you mean. We can plug the general solution in the eigenvalue equation to make the above argument sufficient as well, and get the answer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:58
add a comment |
$begingroup$
How did you get rid of the factor of $sin$ in the equation for $u(pi)$. We haven't assumed $lambda$ is an integer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:43
$begingroup$
Ops, you’re right. Thanks you
$endgroup$
– Federico Fallucca
Mar 11 at 10:48
$begingroup$
I can't quite figure out how to deal with the case $A neq 0, B neq 0$. In that case, I have two equations in three unknowns, $A, B$ and $lambda$.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:51
1
$begingroup$
I think I get you mean you mean. We can plug the general solution in the eigenvalue equation to make the above argument sufficient as well, and get the answer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:58
$begingroup$
How did you get rid of the factor of $sin$ in the equation for $u(pi)$. We haven't assumed $lambda$ is an integer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:43
$begingroup$
How did you get rid of the factor of $sin$ in the equation for $u(pi)$. We haven't assumed $lambda$ is an integer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:43
$begingroup$
Ops, you’re right. Thanks you
$endgroup$
– Federico Fallucca
Mar 11 at 10:48
$begingroup$
Ops, you’re right. Thanks you
$endgroup$
– Federico Fallucca
Mar 11 at 10:48
$begingroup$
I can't quite figure out how to deal with the case $A neq 0, B neq 0$. In that case, I have two equations in three unknowns, $A, B$ and $lambda$.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:51
$begingroup$
I can't quite figure out how to deal with the case $A neq 0, B neq 0$. In that case, I have two equations in three unknowns, $A, B$ and $lambda$.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:51
1
1
$begingroup$
I think I get you mean you mean. We can plug the general solution in the eigenvalue equation to make the above argument sufficient as well, and get the answer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:58
$begingroup$
I think I get you mean you mean. We can plug the general solution in the eigenvalue equation to make the above argument sufficient as well, and get the answer.
$endgroup$
– user82261
Mar 11 at 10:58
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You got $u(0)=-u(pi)$. One more boundary condition and you will be able to eliminate $A$ and $B$ in the general solution, concluding the exercise.
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– Giuseppe Negro
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