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Proving AM-GM via $n cdot (a_1^n + a_2^n + dots + a_n^n) ge (a_1^n-1 + a_2^n-1 + dots + a_n^n-1) cdot (a_1 + a_2 + dots + a_n)$



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I want to prove the arithmetic–geometric mean inequality.
To prove that, I need the following inequality:



Suppose that $n$ is an integer which is greater than or equal to $1$ and $a_1, a_2, dots, a_n in BbbR$.



Then,
$$n cdot (a_1^n + a_2^n + dots + a_n^n) ge (a_1^n-1 + a_2^n-1 + dots + a_n^n-1) cdot (a_1 + a_2 + dots + a_n). cdots (1)$$




For any n positive real numbers $a_1, a_2, cdots, a_n$,
$$fraca_1 + a_2 + cdots + a_nn ge sqrt[n]a_1 a_2 cdots a_n.$$
This inequality is obviously equivalent to the next inequality:



For any n positive real numbers $b_1, b_2, cdots, b_n$,
$$b_1^n + b_2^n + cdots b_n^n ge n (b_1 b_2 cdots b_n)$$



We prove the second inequality by induction.



(i) When $n=1$, $b_1^1 = b_1 ge 1cdot b_1.$



(ii)When $n=k$, suppose that the above inequality holds.



Let $c_1, c_2, cdots, c_k+1$ be $k+1$ positive real numbers. Then, by the assumption above,



$$
left{
beginarrayc
c_1(c_2^k + c_3^k + cdots + c_k+1^k) ge c_1(k c_2 c_3 cdots c_k+1) = k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j \
c_2(c_1^k + c_3^k + cdots + c_k+1^k) ge c_2(k c_1 c_3 cdots c_k+1) = k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j \
cdots \
c_k+1(c_1^k + c_2^k + cdots + c_k^k) ge c_k+1(k c_1 c_2 cdots c_k) = k
prod_j=1^k+1 c_j,\
endarray
right.
$$
i.e., for $1 le i le k+1$,
$$sum_j=1^k+1delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i ge k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j$$
where, $delta_ij^' = 1 - delta_ij$, $delta_ij$ is Kronecker's delta.



So,



$$sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i ge sum_i=1^k+1 k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j = k(k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$



$$sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i = sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 = sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1.$$



If (1) holds, then



$$(k+1) sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i.$$



So,



$$k sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge k(k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$



When we divide both sides of the above inequality by k, we get



$$sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge (k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$










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I want to prove the arithmetic–geometric mean inequality.
To prove that, I need the following inequality:



Suppose that $n$ is an integer which is greater than or equal to $1$ and $a_1, a_2, dots, a_n in BbbR$.



Then,
$$n cdot (a_1^n + a_2^n + dots + a_n^n) ge (a_1^n-1 + a_2^n-1 + dots + a_n^n-1) cdot (a_1 + a_2 + dots + a_n). cdots (1)$$




For any n positive real numbers $a_1, a_2, cdots, a_n$,
$$fraca_1 + a_2 + cdots + a_nn ge sqrt[n]a_1 a_2 cdots a_n.$$
This inequality is obviously equivalent to the next inequality:



For any n positive real numbers $b_1, b_2, cdots, b_n$,
$$b_1^n + b_2^n + cdots b_n^n ge n (b_1 b_2 cdots b_n)$$



We prove the second inequality by induction.



(i) When $n=1$, $b_1^1 = b_1 ge 1cdot b_1.$



(ii)When $n=k$, suppose that the above inequality holds.



Let $c_1, c_2, cdots, c_k+1$ be $k+1$ positive real numbers. Then, by the assumption above,



$$
left{
beginarrayc
c_1(c_2^k + c_3^k + cdots + c_k+1^k) ge c_1(k c_2 c_3 cdots c_k+1) = k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j \
c_2(c_1^k + c_3^k + cdots + c_k+1^k) ge c_2(k c_1 c_3 cdots c_k+1) = k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j \
cdots \
c_k+1(c_1^k + c_2^k + cdots + c_k^k) ge c_k+1(k c_1 c_2 cdots c_k) = k
prod_j=1^k+1 c_j,\
endarray
right.
$$
i.e., for $1 le i le k+1$,
$$sum_j=1^k+1delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i ge k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j$$
where, $delta_ij^' = 1 - delta_ij$, $delta_ij$ is Kronecker's delta.



So,



$$sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i ge sum_i=1^k+1 k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j = k(k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$



$$sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i = sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 = sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1.$$



If (1) holds, then



$$(k+1) sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i.$$



So,



$$k sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge k(k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$



When we divide both sides of the above inequality by k, we get



$$sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge (k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$










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I want to prove the arithmetic–geometric mean inequality.
To prove that, I need the following inequality:



Suppose that $n$ is an integer which is greater than or equal to $1$ and $a_1, a_2, dots, a_n in BbbR$.



Then,
$$n cdot (a_1^n + a_2^n + dots + a_n^n) ge (a_1^n-1 + a_2^n-1 + dots + a_n^n-1) cdot (a_1 + a_2 + dots + a_n). cdots (1)$$




For any n positive real numbers $a_1, a_2, cdots, a_n$,
$$fraca_1 + a_2 + cdots + a_nn ge sqrt[n]a_1 a_2 cdots a_n.$$
This inequality is obviously equivalent to the next inequality:



For any n positive real numbers $b_1, b_2, cdots, b_n$,
$$b_1^n + b_2^n + cdots b_n^n ge n (b_1 b_2 cdots b_n)$$



We prove the second inequality by induction.



(i) When $n=1$, $b_1^1 = b_1 ge 1cdot b_1.$



(ii)When $n=k$, suppose that the above inequality holds.



Let $c_1, c_2, cdots, c_k+1$ be $k+1$ positive real numbers. Then, by the assumption above,



$$
left{
beginarrayc
c_1(c_2^k + c_3^k + cdots + c_k+1^k) ge c_1(k c_2 c_3 cdots c_k+1) = k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j \
c_2(c_1^k + c_3^k + cdots + c_k+1^k) ge c_2(k c_1 c_3 cdots c_k+1) = k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j \
cdots \
c_k+1(c_1^k + c_2^k + cdots + c_k^k) ge c_k+1(k c_1 c_2 cdots c_k) = k
prod_j=1^k+1 c_j,\
endarray
right.
$$
i.e., for $1 le i le k+1$,
$$sum_j=1^k+1delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i ge k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j$$
where, $delta_ij^' = 1 - delta_ij$, $delta_ij$ is Kronecker's delta.



So,



$$sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i ge sum_i=1^k+1 k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j = k(k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$



$$sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i = sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 = sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1.$$



If (1) holds, then



$$(k+1) sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i.$$



So,



$$k sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge k(k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$



When we divide both sides of the above inequality by k, we get



$$sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge (k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$










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I want to prove the arithmetic–geometric mean inequality.
To prove that, I need the following inequality:



Suppose that $n$ is an integer which is greater than or equal to $1$ and $a_1, a_2, dots, a_n in BbbR$.



Then,
$$n cdot (a_1^n + a_2^n + dots + a_n^n) ge (a_1^n-1 + a_2^n-1 + dots + a_n^n-1) cdot (a_1 + a_2 + dots + a_n). cdots (1)$$




For any n positive real numbers $a_1, a_2, cdots, a_n$,
$$fraca_1 + a_2 + cdots + a_nn ge sqrt[n]a_1 a_2 cdots a_n.$$
This inequality is obviously equivalent to the next inequality:



For any n positive real numbers $b_1, b_2, cdots, b_n$,
$$b_1^n + b_2^n + cdots b_n^n ge n (b_1 b_2 cdots b_n)$$



We prove the second inequality by induction.



(i) When $n=1$, $b_1^1 = b_1 ge 1cdot b_1.$



(ii)When $n=k$, suppose that the above inequality holds.



Let $c_1, c_2, cdots, c_k+1$ be $k+1$ positive real numbers. Then, by the assumption above,



$$
left{
beginarrayc
c_1(c_2^k + c_3^k + cdots + c_k+1^k) ge c_1(k c_2 c_3 cdots c_k+1) = k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j \
c_2(c_1^k + c_3^k + cdots + c_k+1^k) ge c_2(k c_1 c_3 cdots c_k+1) = k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j \
cdots \
c_k+1(c_1^k + c_2^k + cdots + c_k^k) ge c_k+1(k c_1 c_2 cdots c_k) = k
prod_j=1^k+1 c_j,\
endarray
right.
$$
i.e., for $1 le i le k+1$,
$$sum_j=1^k+1delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i ge k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j$$
where, $delta_ij^' = 1 - delta_ij$, $delta_ij$ is Kronecker's delta.



So,



$$sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i ge sum_i=1^k+1 k prod_j=1^k+1 c_j = k(k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$



$$sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 delta_ij^' c_j^k c_i = sum_i=1^k+1 sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 = sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1.$$



If (1) holds, then



$$(k+1) sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i.$$



So,



$$k sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge sum_j=1^k+1 c_j^k cdot sum_i=1^k+1 c_i - sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge k(k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$



When we divide both sides of the above inequality by k, we get



$$sum_i=1^k+1 c_i^k+1 ge (k+1) prod_j=1^k+1 c_j.$$







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Well well, this is Chebyshev's inequality given that a1 > a2 > ... more in that link.
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There is the following reasoning for even $n$. $$nsum_k=1^na_k^n-sum_k=1^na_k^n-1sum_k=1^na_k=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-a_i^n-1a_j-a_ia_j^n-1+a_j^nright)=$$
$$=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-1-a_j^n-1right)left(a_i-a_jright)geq0.$$



For odd $n$ it's wrong.



For example, take $n=3$.



We get $3(a^3+b^3+c^3)geq(a^2+b^2+c^2)(a+b+c),$ which is wrong for $b=c=0$ and $a=-1.$



Also, we can say that it's true for non-negative variables by Muirhead because $$(n,0,0,...,0)succ(n-1,1,0,...,0).$$






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    What if we restrict to nonnegative $a_k$? It should work for all $n$ then.
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There is the following reasoning for even $n$. $$nsum_k=1^na_k^n-sum_k=1^na_k^n-1sum_k=1^na_k=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-a_i^n-1a_j-a_ia_j^n-1+a_j^nright)=$$
$$=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-1-a_j^n-1right)left(a_i-a_jright)geq0.$$



For odd $n$ it's wrong.



For example, take $n=3$.



We get $3(a^3+b^3+c^3)geq(a^2+b^2+c^2)(a+b+c),$ which is wrong for $b=c=0$ and $a=-1.$



Also, we can say that it's true for non-negative variables by Muirhead because $$(n,0,0,...,0)succ(n-1,1,0,...,0).$$






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    What if we restrict to nonnegative $a_k$? It should work for all $n$ then.
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    – Wojowu
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    @Wojowu For non-negative variables it's true for all $ngeq1$, of course . The proof is the same. Also, we can use Chebyshov here.
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There is the following reasoning for even $n$. $$nsum_k=1^na_k^n-sum_k=1^na_k^n-1sum_k=1^na_k=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-a_i^n-1a_j-a_ia_j^n-1+a_j^nright)=$$
$$=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-1-a_j^n-1right)left(a_i-a_jright)geq0.$$



For odd $n$ it's wrong.



For example, take $n=3$.



We get $3(a^3+b^3+c^3)geq(a^2+b^2+c^2)(a+b+c),$ which is wrong for $b=c=0$ and $a=-1.$



Also, we can say that it's true for non-negative variables by Muirhead because $$(n,0,0,...,0)succ(n-1,1,0,...,0).$$






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  • $begingroup$
    What if we restrict to nonnegative $a_k$? It should work for all $n$ then.
    $endgroup$
    – Wojowu
    Mar 27 at 19:22







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Wojowu For non-negative variables it's true for all $ngeq1$, of course . The proof is the same. Also, we can use Chebyshov here.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Mar 27 at 19:25














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$begingroup$

There is the following reasoning for even $n$. $$nsum_k=1^na_k^n-sum_k=1^na_k^n-1sum_k=1^na_k=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-a_i^n-1a_j-a_ia_j^n-1+a_j^nright)=$$
$$=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-1-a_j^n-1right)left(a_i-a_jright)geq0.$$



For odd $n$ it's wrong.



For example, take $n=3$.



We get $3(a^3+b^3+c^3)geq(a^2+b^2+c^2)(a+b+c),$ which is wrong for $b=c=0$ and $a=-1.$



Also, we can say that it's true for non-negative variables by Muirhead because $$(n,0,0,...,0)succ(n-1,1,0,...,0).$$






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There is the following reasoning for even $n$. $$nsum_k=1^na_k^n-sum_k=1^na_k^n-1sum_k=1^na_k=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-a_i^n-1a_j-a_ia_j^n-1+a_j^nright)=$$
$$=sum_1leq i<jleq nleft(a_i^n-1-a_j^n-1right)left(a_i-a_jright)geq0.$$



For odd $n$ it's wrong.



For example, take $n=3$.



We get $3(a^3+b^3+c^3)geq(a^2+b^2+c^2)(a+b+c),$ which is wrong for $b=c=0$ and $a=-1.$



Also, we can say that it's true for non-negative variables by Muirhead because $$(n,0,0,...,0)succ(n-1,1,0,...,0).$$







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    What if we restrict to nonnegative $a_k$? It should work for all $n$ then.
    $endgroup$
    – Wojowu
    Mar 27 at 19:22







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Wojowu For non-negative variables it's true for all $ngeq1$, of course . The proof is the same. Also, we can use Chebyshov here.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Mar 27 at 19:25

















  • $begingroup$
    What if we restrict to nonnegative $a_k$? It should work for all $n$ then.
    $endgroup$
    – Wojowu
    Mar 27 at 19:22







  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Wojowu For non-negative variables it's true for all $ngeq1$, of course . The proof is the same. Also, we can use Chebyshov here.
    $endgroup$
    – Michael Rozenberg
    Mar 27 at 19:25
















$begingroup$
What if we restrict to nonnegative $a_k$? It should work for all $n$ then.
$endgroup$
– Wojowu
Mar 27 at 19:22





$begingroup$
What if we restrict to nonnegative $a_k$? It should work for all $n$ then.
$endgroup$
– Wojowu
Mar 27 at 19:22





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$begingroup$
@Wojowu For non-negative variables it's true for all $ngeq1$, of course . The proof is the same. Also, we can use Chebyshov here.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Mar 27 at 19:25





$begingroup$
@Wojowu For non-negative variables it's true for all $ngeq1$, of course . The proof is the same. Also, we can use Chebyshov here.
$endgroup$
– Michael Rozenberg
Mar 27 at 19:25


















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