How long to clear the 'suck zone' of a turbofan after start is initiated? Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Are engines automatically stopped in an emergency landing?Why are the engines on the MAX and neo prone to bowing?How long can passengers survive after ditching in the ocean?Why is there no alert if shutting down a running engine during flight?How does the shape of the blades on N1 fan on a turbofan generate thrust?How can cargo be jettisoned from a C-124 in flight?What would have happened if the jet engine on my aircraft had ingested caulk from the pavement?Can we eliminate the center tank of large passenger planes?How is risk managed in single engined piston aircraft flights?What's the name of this component of the turbofan engines?How do you maximize an electric engines thrust?Does the P&W F100 turbofan engine of the F-16 really produce this much power?

How do living politicians protect their readily obtainable signatures from misuse?

How does the math work when buying airline miles?

What initially awakened the Balrog?

What was the first language to use conditional keywords?

Triggering an ultrasonic sensor

Subalgebra of a group algebra

Why does it sometimes sound good to play a grace note as a lead in to a note in a melody?

What do you call the main part of a joke?

Is CEO the "profession" with the most psychopaths?

"Lost his faith in humanity in the trenches of Verdun" — last line of an SF story

How many serial ports are on the Pi 3?

draw dynamic circle around node and edges

What order were files/directories outputted in dir?

Sum letters are not two different

Why are vacuum tubes still used in amateur radios?

How to make a Field only accept Numbers in Magento 2

Take 2! Is this homebrew Lady of Pain warlock patron balanced?

Aligning an equation at multiple points, with both left and right alignment, as well as equals sign alignment

How to run automated tests after each commit?

Is this another way of expressing the side limit?

How to get all distinct words within a set of lines?

Belief In God or Knowledge Of God. Which is better?

Converted a Scalar function to a TVF function for parallel execution-Still running in Serial mode

What is "gratricide"?



How long to clear the 'suck zone' of a turbofan after start is initiated?



Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara
Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Are engines automatically stopped in an emergency landing?Why are the engines on the MAX and neo prone to bowing?How long can passengers survive after ditching in the ocean?Why is there no alert if shutting down a running engine during flight?How does the shape of the blades on N1 fan on a turbofan generate thrust?How can cargo be jettisoned from a C-124 in flight?What would have happened if the jet engine on my aircraft had ingested caulk from the pavement?Can we eliminate the center tank of large passenger planes?How is risk managed in single engined piston aircraft flights?What's the name of this component of the turbofan engines?How do you maximize an electric engines thrust?Does the P&W F100 turbofan engine of the F-16 really produce this much power?










33












$begingroup$


Engine meme...or something



I recently found this (IMO funny) picture. All funny and all. But let's make this a real situation.



Let's suppose I see my crush and his BF doing this, and I come with this 'genius' idea (alright, it's anything but a genius idea, but still) to start the engine they are sitting on. And no, I am not nice enough to turn the beacon lights on.



How likely is it that the engine gains enough suction to suck them in without they noticing it in time (considering the fact they need to standup and run for their lives)?



How long does it take for the engine to spool up enough suck a person in?










share|improve this question











$endgroup$







  • 13




    $begingroup$
    I'm not sure why the VtC for "opinion based". Seems that there are some pretty reliable facts already posted in the answers.
    $endgroup$
    – FreeMan
    Mar 27 at 17:47






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Since they are both wearing ties, one would hope that'd get sucked into the core.
    $endgroup$
    – MikeY
    Mar 27 at 20:28






  • 11




    $begingroup$
    Ironically, that looks like an A320, but the start panel is from a B737.
    $endgroup$
    – Bianfable
    Mar 28 at 8:36






  • 12




    $begingroup$
    That picture's totally inappropriate for this site. Who starts engine 1 first!?
    $endgroup$
    – 0xdd
    Mar 28 at 14:56










  • $begingroup$
    @0xdd Cause that's the engine they are sitting on!
    $endgroup$
    – Hugo Woesthuis
    Mar 30 at 14:53















33












$begingroup$


Engine meme...or something



I recently found this (IMO funny) picture. All funny and all. But let's make this a real situation.



Let's suppose I see my crush and his BF doing this, and I come with this 'genius' idea (alright, it's anything but a genius idea, but still) to start the engine they are sitting on. And no, I am not nice enough to turn the beacon lights on.



How likely is it that the engine gains enough suction to suck them in without they noticing it in time (considering the fact they need to standup and run for their lives)?



How long does it take for the engine to spool up enough suck a person in?










share|improve this question











$endgroup$







  • 13




    $begingroup$
    I'm not sure why the VtC for "opinion based". Seems that there are some pretty reliable facts already posted in the answers.
    $endgroup$
    – FreeMan
    Mar 27 at 17:47






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Since they are both wearing ties, one would hope that'd get sucked into the core.
    $endgroup$
    – MikeY
    Mar 27 at 20:28






  • 11




    $begingroup$
    Ironically, that looks like an A320, but the start panel is from a B737.
    $endgroup$
    – Bianfable
    Mar 28 at 8:36






  • 12




    $begingroup$
    That picture's totally inappropriate for this site. Who starts engine 1 first!?
    $endgroup$
    – 0xdd
    Mar 28 at 14:56










  • $begingroup$
    @0xdd Cause that's the engine they are sitting on!
    $endgroup$
    – Hugo Woesthuis
    Mar 30 at 14:53













33












33








33


3



$begingroup$


Engine meme...or something



I recently found this (IMO funny) picture. All funny and all. But let's make this a real situation.



Let's suppose I see my crush and his BF doing this, and I come with this 'genius' idea (alright, it's anything but a genius idea, but still) to start the engine they are sitting on. And no, I am not nice enough to turn the beacon lights on.



How likely is it that the engine gains enough suction to suck them in without they noticing it in time (considering the fact they need to standup and run for their lives)?



How long does it take for the engine to spool up enough suck a person in?










share|improve this question











$endgroup$




Engine meme...or something



I recently found this (IMO funny) picture. All funny and all. But let's make this a real situation.



Let's suppose I see my crush and his BF doing this, and I come with this 'genius' idea (alright, it's anything but a genius idea, but still) to start the engine they are sitting on. And no, I am not nice enough to turn the beacon lights on.



How likely is it that the engine gains enough suction to suck them in without they noticing it in time (considering the fact they need to standup and run for their lives)?



How long does it take for the engine to spool up enough suck a person in?







safety turbofan






share|improve this question















share|improve this question













share|improve this question




share|improve this question








edited Mar 27 at 17:16









ymb1

70.6k7226376




70.6k7226376










asked Mar 27 at 15:54









Hugo WoesthuisHugo Woesthuis

1,059924




1,059924







  • 13




    $begingroup$
    I'm not sure why the VtC for "opinion based". Seems that there are some pretty reliable facts already posted in the answers.
    $endgroup$
    – FreeMan
    Mar 27 at 17:47






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Since they are both wearing ties, one would hope that'd get sucked into the core.
    $endgroup$
    – MikeY
    Mar 27 at 20:28






  • 11




    $begingroup$
    Ironically, that looks like an A320, but the start panel is from a B737.
    $endgroup$
    – Bianfable
    Mar 28 at 8:36






  • 12




    $begingroup$
    That picture's totally inappropriate for this site. Who starts engine 1 first!?
    $endgroup$
    – 0xdd
    Mar 28 at 14:56










  • $begingroup$
    @0xdd Cause that's the engine they are sitting on!
    $endgroup$
    – Hugo Woesthuis
    Mar 30 at 14:53












  • 13




    $begingroup$
    I'm not sure why the VtC for "opinion based". Seems that there are some pretty reliable facts already posted in the answers.
    $endgroup$
    – FreeMan
    Mar 27 at 17:47






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    Since they are both wearing ties, one would hope that'd get sucked into the core.
    $endgroup$
    – MikeY
    Mar 27 at 20:28






  • 11




    $begingroup$
    Ironically, that looks like an A320, but the start panel is from a B737.
    $endgroup$
    – Bianfable
    Mar 28 at 8:36






  • 12




    $begingroup$
    That picture's totally inappropriate for this site. Who starts engine 1 first!?
    $endgroup$
    – 0xdd
    Mar 28 at 14:56










  • $begingroup$
    @0xdd Cause that's the engine they are sitting on!
    $endgroup$
    – Hugo Woesthuis
    Mar 30 at 14:53







13




13




$begingroup$
I'm not sure why the VtC for "opinion based". Seems that there are some pretty reliable facts already posted in the answers.
$endgroup$
– FreeMan
Mar 27 at 17:47




$begingroup$
I'm not sure why the VtC for "opinion based". Seems that there are some pretty reliable facts already posted in the answers.
$endgroup$
– FreeMan
Mar 27 at 17:47




1




1




$begingroup$
Since they are both wearing ties, one would hope that'd get sucked into the core.
$endgroup$
– MikeY
Mar 27 at 20:28




$begingroup$
Since they are both wearing ties, one would hope that'd get sucked into the core.
$endgroup$
– MikeY
Mar 27 at 20:28




11




11




$begingroup$
Ironically, that looks like an A320, but the start panel is from a B737.
$endgroup$
– Bianfable
Mar 28 at 8:36




$begingroup$
Ironically, that looks like an A320, but the start panel is from a B737.
$endgroup$
– Bianfable
Mar 28 at 8:36




12




12




$begingroup$
That picture's totally inappropriate for this site. Who starts engine 1 first!?
$endgroup$
– 0xdd
Mar 28 at 14:56




$begingroup$
That picture's totally inappropriate for this site. Who starts engine 1 first!?
$endgroup$
– 0xdd
Mar 28 at 14:56












$begingroup$
@0xdd Cause that's the engine they are sitting on!
$endgroup$
– Hugo Woesthuis
Mar 30 at 14:53




$begingroup$
@0xdd Cause that's the engine they are sitting on!
$endgroup$
– Hugo Woesthuis
Mar 30 at 14:53










3 Answers
3






active

oldest

votes


















32












$begingroup$

enter image description here

(Airbus)



The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute (the starter is limited to four 2-minute bursts, followed by a 15 min cool down). Newer engines take longer to start.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m. On the A380 it's, surprisingly, only 4.5 m.



How soon can they reunite after a shutdown? It won't be a long wait.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$








  • 14




    $begingroup$
    And, it gets really loud immediately when the starter engages. That'll get your attention right away, followed by the fan starting to turn slowly.
    $endgroup$
    – Ralph J
    Mar 27 at 17:05






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The suction power is massively overrated. If you had hard vacuum in a cylindre, you only need to go 1 diameter away to have negligible suction. But it ramps up nicely inwards from there.
    $endgroup$
    – Stian Yttervik
    Mar 28 at 22:29


















33












$begingroup$

A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.






share|improve this answer









$endgroup$








  • 23




    $begingroup$
    I love the written description of the startup sound. +1
    $endgroup$
    – Pugz
    Mar 27 at 18:56










  • $begingroup$
    From now on this is the sound of evil.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter
    Mar 27 at 19:38











  • $begingroup$
    @Peter It's music. Best of all is the sound of a Huey helicopter. youtube.com/watch?v=IA9knzev85I Listen carefully. There must be 4 or 5 ascending howls and groans and whines in a sequence as the, starter, engine and various gearboxes wind up in turn. It's a symphony.
    $endgroup$
    – John K
    Mar 27 at 22:09











  • $begingroup$
    Hmm... How much suction is the core creating during that 20-40 seconds, though? N2 has to get relatively high before the core lights, doesn't it? Seems like that would still result in a pretty substantial mass flow (though obviously not as much as when the fan spins up.)
    $endgroup$
    – reirab
    Mar 28 at 16:07



















18












$begingroup$

WHAT??? I CAN'T HEAR YOU



I said, let's get away from this loud engine!



Before it can even start to turn the fan, the noises the engine must make will be so deafening as to force the people in that location to flee.



And even before that, there would be clunks, shakes, and vibration that would be very noticeable, and put even deaf people on notice to clear out.



There would be no mistaking the engine starting up. They would have at least 10-15 seconds to clear out.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    This doesn't actually answer the question. Q: "How long?" A: "Well they'll definitely hear it!"
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 29 at 2:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex it's implicit that it gets noisy enough, early enough that they would move away because of the noise before they would get sucked in.
    $endgroup$
    – Baldrickk
    Mar 29 at 13:12










  • $begingroup$
    Obviously each engine takes a different amount of time to start. The point is that you would always notice it starting up.
    $endgroup$
    – zymhan
    Mar 29 at 14:09










  • $begingroup$
    @Baldrickk Yeah I know, but generally it's expected that Stack Exchange questions should directly answer the question. I'm just suggesting perhaps the author should edit the answer to make it a more direct answer. And of course... I have a cunning plan...
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 30 at 23:01






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex ok, there ya go! It's a hard question to answer so I had to couch it...
    $endgroup$
    – Harper
    Mar 31 at 5:09









protected by Community Mar 29 at 12:04



Thank you for your interest in this question.
Because it has attracted low-quality or spam answers that had to be removed, posting an answer now requires 10 reputation on this site (the association bonus does not count).



Would you like to answer one of these unanswered questions instead?














3 Answers
3






active

oldest

votes








3 Answers
3






active

oldest

votes









active

oldest

votes






active

oldest

votes









32












$begingroup$

enter image description here

(Airbus)



The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute (the starter is limited to four 2-minute bursts, followed by a 15 min cool down). Newer engines take longer to start.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m. On the A380 it's, surprisingly, only 4.5 m.



How soon can they reunite after a shutdown? It won't be a long wait.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$








  • 14




    $begingroup$
    And, it gets really loud immediately when the starter engages. That'll get your attention right away, followed by the fan starting to turn slowly.
    $endgroup$
    – Ralph J
    Mar 27 at 17:05






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The suction power is massively overrated. If you had hard vacuum in a cylindre, you only need to go 1 diameter away to have negligible suction. But it ramps up nicely inwards from there.
    $endgroup$
    – Stian Yttervik
    Mar 28 at 22:29















32












$begingroup$

enter image description here

(Airbus)



The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute (the starter is limited to four 2-minute bursts, followed by a 15 min cool down). Newer engines take longer to start.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m. On the A380 it's, surprisingly, only 4.5 m.



How soon can they reunite after a shutdown? It won't be a long wait.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$








  • 14




    $begingroup$
    And, it gets really loud immediately when the starter engages. That'll get your attention right away, followed by the fan starting to turn slowly.
    $endgroup$
    – Ralph J
    Mar 27 at 17:05






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The suction power is massively overrated. If you had hard vacuum in a cylindre, you only need to go 1 diameter away to have negligible suction. But it ramps up nicely inwards from there.
    $endgroup$
    – Stian Yttervik
    Mar 28 at 22:29













32












32








32





$begingroup$

enter image description here

(Airbus)



The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute (the starter is limited to four 2-minute bursts, followed by a 15 min cool down). Newer engines take longer to start.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m. On the A380 it's, surprisingly, only 4.5 m.



How soon can they reunite after a shutdown? It won't be a long wait.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



enter image description here

(Airbus)



The suck zone ahead of a CFM56 on an A320 is less than 5 meters. The couple have enough time to take a leisurely walk toward the cockpit window.



The engine start time takes upwards of a minute (the starter is limited to four 2-minute bursts, followed by a 15 min cool down). Newer engines take longer to start.



On the neo with PW1000G engines it's 2.9 m. On the A380 it's, surprisingly, only 4.5 m.



How soon can they reunite after a shutdown? It won't be a long wait.







share|improve this answer














share|improve this answer



share|improve this answer








edited Mar 27 at 21:00

























answered Mar 27 at 16:40









ymb1ymb1

70.6k7226376




70.6k7226376







  • 14




    $begingroup$
    And, it gets really loud immediately when the starter engages. That'll get your attention right away, followed by the fan starting to turn slowly.
    $endgroup$
    – Ralph J
    Mar 27 at 17:05






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The suction power is massively overrated. If you had hard vacuum in a cylindre, you only need to go 1 diameter away to have negligible suction. But it ramps up nicely inwards from there.
    $endgroup$
    – Stian Yttervik
    Mar 28 at 22:29












  • 14




    $begingroup$
    And, it gets really loud immediately when the starter engages. That'll get your attention right away, followed by the fan starting to turn slowly.
    $endgroup$
    – Ralph J
    Mar 27 at 17:05






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    The suction power is massively overrated. If you had hard vacuum in a cylindre, you only need to go 1 diameter away to have negligible suction. But it ramps up nicely inwards from there.
    $endgroup$
    – Stian Yttervik
    Mar 28 at 22:29







14




14




$begingroup$
And, it gets really loud immediately when the starter engages. That'll get your attention right away, followed by the fan starting to turn slowly.
$endgroup$
– Ralph J
Mar 27 at 17:05




$begingroup$
And, it gets really loud immediately when the starter engages. That'll get your attention right away, followed by the fan starting to turn slowly.
$endgroup$
– Ralph J
Mar 27 at 17:05




2




2




$begingroup$
The suction power is massively overrated. If you had hard vacuum in a cylindre, you only need to go 1 diameter away to have negligible suction. But it ramps up nicely inwards from there.
$endgroup$
– Stian Yttervik
Mar 28 at 22:29




$begingroup$
The suction power is massively overrated. If you had hard vacuum in a cylindre, you only need to go 1 diameter away to have negligible suction. But it ramps up nicely inwards from there.
$endgroup$
– Stian Yttervik
Mar 28 at 22:29











33












$begingroup$

A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.






share|improve this answer









$endgroup$








  • 23




    $begingroup$
    I love the written description of the startup sound. +1
    $endgroup$
    – Pugz
    Mar 27 at 18:56










  • $begingroup$
    From now on this is the sound of evil.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter
    Mar 27 at 19:38











  • $begingroup$
    @Peter It's music. Best of all is the sound of a Huey helicopter. youtube.com/watch?v=IA9knzev85I Listen carefully. There must be 4 or 5 ascending howls and groans and whines in a sequence as the, starter, engine and various gearboxes wind up in turn. It's a symphony.
    $endgroup$
    – John K
    Mar 27 at 22:09











  • $begingroup$
    Hmm... How much suction is the core creating during that 20-40 seconds, though? N2 has to get relatively high before the core lights, doesn't it? Seems like that would still result in a pretty substantial mass flow (though obviously not as much as when the fan spins up.)
    $endgroup$
    – reirab
    Mar 28 at 16:07
















33












$begingroup$

A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.






share|improve this answer









$endgroup$








  • 23




    $begingroup$
    I love the written description of the startup sound. +1
    $endgroup$
    – Pugz
    Mar 27 at 18:56










  • $begingroup$
    From now on this is the sound of evil.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter
    Mar 27 at 19:38











  • $begingroup$
    @Peter It's music. Best of all is the sound of a Huey helicopter. youtube.com/watch?v=IA9knzev85I Listen carefully. There must be 4 or 5 ascending howls and groans and whines in a sequence as the, starter, engine and various gearboxes wind up in turn. It's a symphony.
    $endgroup$
    – John K
    Mar 27 at 22:09











  • $begingroup$
    Hmm... How much suction is the core creating during that 20-40 seconds, though? N2 has to get relatively high before the core lights, doesn't it? Seems like that would still result in a pretty substantial mass flow (though obviously not as much as when the fan spins up.)
    $endgroup$
    – reirab
    Mar 28 at 16:07














33












33








33





$begingroup$

A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.






share|improve this answer









$endgroup$



A start on a TF all the way to idle is about 20-40 seconds depending on the engine, and the fan itself won't do more than creep a bit until the core actually lights off which is 5-10 seconds, so they'll have lots of time to get down and get away as per @ymb1's diagram, once the wheeEEEEEEEEEEtickticktickticktickticktick starts.







share|improve this answer












share|improve this answer



share|improve this answer










answered Mar 27 at 16:45









John KJohn K

25.8k13878




25.8k13878







  • 23




    $begingroup$
    I love the written description of the startup sound. +1
    $endgroup$
    – Pugz
    Mar 27 at 18:56










  • $begingroup$
    From now on this is the sound of evil.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter
    Mar 27 at 19:38











  • $begingroup$
    @Peter It's music. Best of all is the sound of a Huey helicopter. youtube.com/watch?v=IA9knzev85I Listen carefully. There must be 4 or 5 ascending howls and groans and whines in a sequence as the, starter, engine and various gearboxes wind up in turn. It's a symphony.
    $endgroup$
    – John K
    Mar 27 at 22:09











  • $begingroup$
    Hmm... How much suction is the core creating during that 20-40 seconds, though? N2 has to get relatively high before the core lights, doesn't it? Seems like that would still result in a pretty substantial mass flow (though obviously not as much as when the fan spins up.)
    $endgroup$
    – reirab
    Mar 28 at 16:07













  • 23




    $begingroup$
    I love the written description of the startup sound. +1
    $endgroup$
    – Pugz
    Mar 27 at 18:56










  • $begingroup$
    From now on this is the sound of evil.
    $endgroup$
    – Peter
    Mar 27 at 19:38











  • $begingroup$
    @Peter It's music. Best of all is the sound of a Huey helicopter. youtube.com/watch?v=IA9knzev85I Listen carefully. There must be 4 or 5 ascending howls and groans and whines in a sequence as the, starter, engine and various gearboxes wind up in turn. It's a symphony.
    $endgroup$
    – John K
    Mar 27 at 22:09











  • $begingroup$
    Hmm... How much suction is the core creating during that 20-40 seconds, though? N2 has to get relatively high before the core lights, doesn't it? Seems like that would still result in a pretty substantial mass flow (though obviously not as much as when the fan spins up.)
    $endgroup$
    – reirab
    Mar 28 at 16:07








23




23




$begingroup$
I love the written description of the startup sound. +1
$endgroup$
– Pugz
Mar 27 at 18:56




$begingroup$
I love the written description of the startup sound. +1
$endgroup$
– Pugz
Mar 27 at 18:56












$begingroup$
From now on this is the sound of evil.
$endgroup$
– Peter
Mar 27 at 19:38





$begingroup$
From now on this is the sound of evil.
$endgroup$
– Peter
Mar 27 at 19:38













$begingroup$
@Peter It's music. Best of all is the sound of a Huey helicopter. youtube.com/watch?v=IA9knzev85I Listen carefully. There must be 4 or 5 ascending howls and groans and whines in a sequence as the, starter, engine and various gearboxes wind up in turn. It's a symphony.
$endgroup$
– John K
Mar 27 at 22:09





$begingroup$
@Peter It's music. Best of all is the sound of a Huey helicopter. youtube.com/watch?v=IA9knzev85I Listen carefully. There must be 4 or 5 ascending howls and groans and whines in a sequence as the, starter, engine and various gearboxes wind up in turn. It's a symphony.
$endgroup$
– John K
Mar 27 at 22:09













$begingroup$
Hmm... How much suction is the core creating during that 20-40 seconds, though? N2 has to get relatively high before the core lights, doesn't it? Seems like that would still result in a pretty substantial mass flow (though obviously not as much as when the fan spins up.)
$endgroup$
– reirab
Mar 28 at 16:07





$begingroup$
Hmm... How much suction is the core creating during that 20-40 seconds, though? N2 has to get relatively high before the core lights, doesn't it? Seems like that would still result in a pretty substantial mass flow (though obviously not as much as when the fan spins up.)
$endgroup$
– reirab
Mar 28 at 16:07












18












$begingroup$

WHAT??? I CAN'T HEAR YOU



I said, let's get away from this loud engine!



Before it can even start to turn the fan, the noises the engine must make will be so deafening as to force the people in that location to flee.



And even before that, there would be clunks, shakes, and vibration that would be very noticeable, and put even deaf people on notice to clear out.



There would be no mistaking the engine starting up. They would have at least 10-15 seconds to clear out.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    This doesn't actually answer the question. Q: "How long?" A: "Well they'll definitely hear it!"
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 29 at 2:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex it's implicit that it gets noisy enough, early enough that they would move away because of the noise before they would get sucked in.
    $endgroup$
    – Baldrickk
    Mar 29 at 13:12










  • $begingroup$
    Obviously each engine takes a different amount of time to start. The point is that you would always notice it starting up.
    $endgroup$
    – zymhan
    Mar 29 at 14:09










  • $begingroup$
    @Baldrickk Yeah I know, but generally it's expected that Stack Exchange questions should directly answer the question. I'm just suggesting perhaps the author should edit the answer to make it a more direct answer. And of course... I have a cunning plan...
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 30 at 23:01






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex ok, there ya go! It's a hard question to answer so I had to couch it...
    $endgroup$
    – Harper
    Mar 31 at 5:09















18












$begingroup$

WHAT??? I CAN'T HEAR YOU



I said, let's get away from this loud engine!



Before it can even start to turn the fan, the noises the engine must make will be so deafening as to force the people in that location to flee.



And even before that, there would be clunks, shakes, and vibration that would be very noticeable, and put even deaf people on notice to clear out.



There would be no mistaking the engine starting up. They would have at least 10-15 seconds to clear out.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$








  • 2




    $begingroup$
    This doesn't actually answer the question. Q: "How long?" A: "Well they'll definitely hear it!"
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 29 at 2:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex it's implicit that it gets noisy enough, early enough that they would move away because of the noise before they would get sucked in.
    $endgroup$
    – Baldrickk
    Mar 29 at 13:12










  • $begingroup$
    Obviously each engine takes a different amount of time to start. The point is that you would always notice it starting up.
    $endgroup$
    – zymhan
    Mar 29 at 14:09










  • $begingroup$
    @Baldrickk Yeah I know, but generally it's expected that Stack Exchange questions should directly answer the question. I'm just suggesting perhaps the author should edit the answer to make it a more direct answer. And of course... I have a cunning plan...
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 30 at 23:01






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex ok, there ya go! It's a hard question to answer so I had to couch it...
    $endgroup$
    – Harper
    Mar 31 at 5:09













18












18








18





$begingroup$

WHAT??? I CAN'T HEAR YOU



I said, let's get away from this loud engine!



Before it can even start to turn the fan, the noises the engine must make will be so deafening as to force the people in that location to flee.



And even before that, there would be clunks, shakes, and vibration that would be very noticeable, and put even deaf people on notice to clear out.



There would be no mistaking the engine starting up. They would have at least 10-15 seconds to clear out.






share|improve this answer











$endgroup$



WHAT??? I CAN'T HEAR YOU



I said, let's get away from this loud engine!



Before it can even start to turn the fan, the noises the engine must make will be so deafening as to force the people in that location to flee.



And even before that, there would be clunks, shakes, and vibration that would be very noticeable, and put even deaf people on notice to clear out.



There would be no mistaking the engine starting up. They would have at least 10-15 seconds to clear out.







share|improve this answer














share|improve this answer



share|improve this answer








edited Mar 31 at 5:07

























answered Mar 27 at 20:06









HarperHarper

4,814926




4,814926







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    This doesn't actually answer the question. Q: "How long?" A: "Well they'll definitely hear it!"
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 29 at 2:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex it's implicit that it gets noisy enough, early enough that they would move away because of the noise before they would get sucked in.
    $endgroup$
    – Baldrickk
    Mar 29 at 13:12










  • $begingroup$
    Obviously each engine takes a different amount of time to start. The point is that you would always notice it starting up.
    $endgroup$
    – zymhan
    Mar 29 at 14:09










  • $begingroup$
    @Baldrickk Yeah I know, but generally it's expected that Stack Exchange questions should directly answer the question. I'm just suggesting perhaps the author should edit the answer to make it a more direct answer. And of course... I have a cunning plan...
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 30 at 23:01






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex ok, there ya go! It's a hard question to answer so I had to couch it...
    $endgroup$
    – Harper
    Mar 31 at 5:09












  • 2




    $begingroup$
    This doesn't actually answer the question. Q: "How long?" A: "Well they'll definitely hear it!"
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 29 at 2:09






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex it's implicit that it gets noisy enough, early enough that they would move away because of the noise before they would get sucked in.
    $endgroup$
    – Baldrickk
    Mar 29 at 13:12










  • $begingroup$
    Obviously each engine takes a different amount of time to start. The point is that you would always notice it starting up.
    $endgroup$
    – zymhan
    Mar 29 at 14:09










  • $begingroup$
    @Baldrickk Yeah I know, but generally it's expected that Stack Exchange questions should directly answer the question. I'm just suggesting perhaps the author should edit the answer to make it a more direct answer. And of course... I have a cunning plan...
    $endgroup$
    – Clonkex
    Mar 30 at 23:01






  • 1




    $begingroup$
    @Clonkex ok, there ya go! It's a hard question to answer so I had to couch it...
    $endgroup$
    – Harper
    Mar 31 at 5:09







2




2




$begingroup$
This doesn't actually answer the question. Q: "How long?" A: "Well they'll definitely hear it!"
$endgroup$
– Clonkex
Mar 29 at 2:09




$begingroup$
This doesn't actually answer the question. Q: "How long?" A: "Well they'll definitely hear it!"
$endgroup$
– Clonkex
Mar 29 at 2:09




2




2




$begingroup$
@Clonkex it's implicit that it gets noisy enough, early enough that they would move away because of the noise before they would get sucked in.
$endgroup$
– Baldrickk
Mar 29 at 13:12




$begingroup$
@Clonkex it's implicit that it gets noisy enough, early enough that they would move away because of the noise before they would get sucked in.
$endgroup$
– Baldrickk
Mar 29 at 13:12












$begingroup$
Obviously each engine takes a different amount of time to start. The point is that you would always notice it starting up.
$endgroup$
– zymhan
Mar 29 at 14:09




$begingroup$
Obviously each engine takes a different amount of time to start. The point is that you would always notice it starting up.
$endgroup$
– zymhan
Mar 29 at 14:09












$begingroup$
@Baldrickk Yeah I know, but generally it's expected that Stack Exchange questions should directly answer the question. I'm just suggesting perhaps the author should edit the answer to make it a more direct answer. And of course... I have a cunning plan...
$endgroup$
– Clonkex
Mar 30 at 23:01




$begingroup$
@Baldrickk Yeah I know, but generally it's expected that Stack Exchange questions should directly answer the question. I'm just suggesting perhaps the author should edit the answer to make it a more direct answer. And of course... I have a cunning plan...
$endgroup$
– Clonkex
Mar 30 at 23:01




1




1




$begingroup$
@Clonkex ok, there ya go! It's a hard question to answer so I had to couch it...
$endgroup$
– Harper
Mar 31 at 5:09




$begingroup$
@Clonkex ok, there ya go! It's a hard question to answer so I had to couch it...
$endgroup$
– Harper
Mar 31 at 5:09





protected by Community Mar 29 at 12:04



Thank you for your interest in this question.
Because it has attracted low-quality or spam answers that had to be removed, posting an answer now requires 10 reputation on this site (the association bonus does not count).



Would you like to answer one of these unanswered questions instead?



Popular posts from this blog

How should I support this large drywall patch? Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern) Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Unicorn Meta Zoo #1: Why another podcast?How do I cover large gaps in drywall?How do I keep drywall around a patch from crumbling?Can I glue a second layer of drywall?How to patch long strip on drywall?Large drywall patch: how to avoid bulging seams?Drywall Mesh Patch vs. Bulge? To remove or not to remove?How to fix this drywall job?Prep drywall before backsplashWhat's the best way to fix this horrible drywall patch job?Drywall patching using 3M Patch Plus Primer

random experiment with two different functions on unit interval Announcing the arrival of Valued Associate #679: Cesar Manara Planned maintenance scheduled April 23, 2019 at 00:00UTC (8:00pm US/Eastern)Random variable and probability space notionsRandom Walk with EdgesFinding functions where the increase over a random interval is Poisson distributedNumber of days until dayCan an observed event in fact be of zero probability?Unit random processmodels of coins and uniform distributionHow to get the number of successes given $n$ trials , probability $P$ and a random variable $X$Absorbing Markov chain in a computer. Is “almost every” turned into always convergence in computer executions?Stopped random walk is not uniformly integrable

Lowndes Grove History Architecture References Navigation menu32°48′6″N 79°57′58″W / 32.80167°N 79.96611°W / 32.80167; -79.9661132°48′6″N 79°57′58″W / 32.80167°N 79.96611°W / 32.80167; -79.9661178002500"National Register Information System"Historic houses of South Carolina"Lowndes Grove""+32° 48' 6.00", −79° 57' 58.00""Lowndes Grove, Charleston County (260 St. Margaret St., Charleston)""Lowndes Grove"The Charleston ExpositionIt Happened in South Carolina"Lowndes Grove (House), Saint Margaret Street & Sixth Avenue, Charleston, Charleston County, SC(Photographs)"Plantations of the Carolina Low Countrye