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semidirect product $Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z rtimes Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z$


Can the semidirect product of two groups be abelian group?Describe up to isomorphism the semidirect product$mathbb Z_p^2$ is not a non trivial semidirect product.Semidirect Product of Two GroupsShow $S_n=mathbbZ_2 rtimes A_n$How to find the images of the external semidirect product?Is semidirect product unique?Direct product, semidirect product and associativityInner vs outer semidirect products of $S_3$ and $D_4$The semidirect product $(C_7times C_13)rtimes C_3$













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Describe all semidirect products $Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z rtimes Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z$.



What the litterature says about this question: There is no such semidirect product because there is no non trivial morphisme from $Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z$ to $(Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z)^*$.



Is the simple fact $Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z cap Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z = 0,1 neq 0$ a good argument for the non existence of such product? Or is it wrong to say that $1 in Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z cap Bbb Z/2$ because $1$ has different orders in the same group?



Thank you for your help.










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    That intersection doesn't make sense, and even if it did it wouldn't tell you about the automorphisms of $mathbbZ/4mathbbZ$, which is what you really need to look at.
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    Thanks! that makes sense
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$begingroup$


Describe all semidirect products $Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z rtimes Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z$.



What the litterature says about this question: There is no such semidirect product because there is no non trivial morphisme from $Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z$ to $(Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z)^*$.



Is the simple fact $Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z cap Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z = 0,1 neq 0$ a good argument for the non existence of such product? Or is it wrong to say that $1 in Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z cap Bbb Z/2$ because $1$ has different orders in the same group?



Thank you for your help.










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    $begingroup$
    That intersection doesn't make sense, and even if it did it wouldn't tell you about the automorphisms of $mathbbZ/4mathbbZ$, which is what you really need to look at.
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    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Mar 10 at 22:08











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    Thanks! that makes sense
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$begingroup$


Describe all semidirect products $Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z rtimes Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z$.



What the litterature says about this question: There is no such semidirect product because there is no non trivial morphisme from $Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z$ to $(Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z)^*$.



Is the simple fact $Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z cap Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z = 0,1 neq 0$ a good argument for the non existence of such product? Or is it wrong to say that $1 in Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z cap Bbb Z/2$ because $1$ has different orders in the same group?



Thank you for your help.










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Describe all semidirect products $Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z rtimes Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z$.



What the litterature says about this question: There is no such semidirect product because there is no non trivial morphisme from $Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z$ to $(Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z)^*$.



Is the simple fact $Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z cap Bbb Z/2 Bbb Z = 0,1 neq 0$ a good argument for the non existence of such product? Or is it wrong to say that $1 in Bbb Z/4 Bbb Z cap Bbb Z/2$ because $1$ has different orders in the same group?



Thank you for your help.







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    $begingroup$
    That intersection doesn't make sense, and even if it did it wouldn't tell you about the automorphisms of $mathbbZ/4mathbbZ$, which is what you really need to look at.
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    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Mar 10 at 22:08











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    Thanks! that makes sense
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    $begingroup$
    That intersection doesn't make sense, and even if it did it wouldn't tell you about the automorphisms of $mathbbZ/4mathbbZ$, which is what you really need to look at.
    $endgroup$
    – Qiaochu Yuan
    Mar 10 at 22:08











  • $begingroup$
    Thanks! that makes sense
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    – PerelMan
    Mar 10 at 22:14







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That intersection doesn't make sense, and even if it did it wouldn't tell you about the automorphisms of $mathbbZ/4mathbbZ$, which is what you really need to look at.
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– Qiaochu Yuan
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$begingroup$
That intersection doesn't make sense, and even if it did it wouldn't tell you about the automorphisms of $mathbbZ/4mathbbZ$, which is what you really need to look at.
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– Qiaochu Yuan
Mar 10 at 22:08













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Thanks! that makes sense
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You write "there is no such semidirect product". That's not true, because we always have the trivial semidirect product, namely the direct product, that is $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



In order to search for more semidirect products, let's determine the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



$mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 4. We can write its elements as 0, 1, 2, 3, where the group operation is addition mod 4.



From this, we see that $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators, namely 1 and 3.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is generated by 1, any endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is determined by its image $varphi(1)$ of 1.



And conversely, for any $g in mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$, the assignment $1 mapsto g$ defines an endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ with $varphi(1) = g$. This has to do with the fact that the order of $g$ is a divisor of 4 (the group order).



Also, it's "easy to see" that the endomorphism $varphi$ is an automorphism iff $varphi(1)$ is a generator of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators (1 and 3, see above), we have two automorphisms, namely $varphi_1$ determined by $varphi_1(1) = 1$, and $varphi_3$ determined by $varphi_3(1) = 3$.



Now, it's "easy to see" that $varphi_1$ is the identity map, and "almost as easy to see" that $varphi_3$ has order 2, that is $varphi_3 circ varphi_3 = varphi_1$.



But this means that the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 2, generated by $varphi_3$.



Now, because $A$ and $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ are so "simple" (each consists of only two elements, in fact they are isomorphic), there are only two homomorphisms from $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ into $A$. Let's write $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z = 0, 1 $ with addition mod 2 as group operation. Then $1$ is the generator of $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$, and we have the homomorphisms $alpha_1: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_1$ and $alpha_3: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_3$.



$alpha_1$ is trivial and leads to the trivial semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



$alpha_3$ is nontrivial and leads to the only other (necessarily nontrivial) semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



So we found that there are two semidirect products $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$, one trivial and one nontrivial.



You also write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 $.
That's not correct, because without further context (for example both groups embedded into a larger group), $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z)$ and $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ are different things and have empty intersection.



For example, it is true that, if we write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0, 1, 2, 3 $ as above, then the subset $0, 2 $ is isomorphic to $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ (check that), and thus we can write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 2 $.



But in general, if we write both groups as sets of residues mod 4 and 2, respectively, then we have
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0_4, 1_4, 2_4, 3_4
$$

and
$$
(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0_2, 1_2
$$

where I have written the modulus as subscript.
"Of course", $0_4 neq 0_2$ and $1_4 neq 1_2$, and thus
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = emptyset,
$$

and not
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 quad leftarrow WARNING: THAT'S WRONG.
$$






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You write "there is no such semidirect product". That's not true, because we always have the trivial semidirect product, namely the direct product, that is $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



In order to search for more semidirect products, let's determine the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



$mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 4. We can write its elements as 0, 1, 2, 3, where the group operation is addition mod 4.



From this, we see that $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators, namely 1 and 3.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is generated by 1, any endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is determined by its image $varphi(1)$ of 1.



And conversely, for any $g in mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$, the assignment $1 mapsto g$ defines an endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ with $varphi(1) = g$. This has to do with the fact that the order of $g$ is a divisor of 4 (the group order).



Also, it's "easy to see" that the endomorphism $varphi$ is an automorphism iff $varphi(1)$ is a generator of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators (1 and 3, see above), we have two automorphisms, namely $varphi_1$ determined by $varphi_1(1) = 1$, and $varphi_3$ determined by $varphi_3(1) = 3$.



Now, it's "easy to see" that $varphi_1$ is the identity map, and "almost as easy to see" that $varphi_3$ has order 2, that is $varphi_3 circ varphi_3 = varphi_1$.



But this means that the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 2, generated by $varphi_3$.



Now, because $A$ and $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ are so "simple" (each consists of only two elements, in fact they are isomorphic), there are only two homomorphisms from $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ into $A$. Let's write $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z = 0, 1 $ with addition mod 2 as group operation. Then $1$ is the generator of $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$, and we have the homomorphisms $alpha_1: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_1$ and $alpha_3: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_3$.



$alpha_1$ is trivial and leads to the trivial semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



$alpha_3$ is nontrivial and leads to the only other (necessarily nontrivial) semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



So we found that there are two semidirect products $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$, one trivial and one nontrivial.



You also write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 $.
That's not correct, because without further context (for example both groups embedded into a larger group), $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z)$ and $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ are different things and have empty intersection.



For example, it is true that, if we write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0, 1, 2, 3 $ as above, then the subset $0, 2 $ is isomorphic to $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ (check that), and thus we can write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 2 $.



But in general, if we write both groups as sets of residues mod 4 and 2, respectively, then we have
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0_4, 1_4, 2_4, 3_4
$$

and
$$
(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0_2, 1_2
$$

where I have written the modulus as subscript.
"Of course", $0_4 neq 0_2$ and $1_4 neq 1_2$, and thus
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = emptyset,
$$

and not
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 quad leftarrow WARNING: THAT'S WRONG.
$$






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$begingroup$

You write "there is no such semidirect product". That's not true, because we always have the trivial semidirect product, namely the direct product, that is $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



In order to search for more semidirect products, let's determine the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



$mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 4. We can write its elements as 0, 1, 2, 3, where the group operation is addition mod 4.



From this, we see that $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators, namely 1 and 3.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is generated by 1, any endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is determined by its image $varphi(1)$ of 1.



And conversely, for any $g in mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$, the assignment $1 mapsto g$ defines an endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ with $varphi(1) = g$. This has to do with the fact that the order of $g$ is a divisor of 4 (the group order).



Also, it's "easy to see" that the endomorphism $varphi$ is an automorphism iff $varphi(1)$ is a generator of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators (1 and 3, see above), we have two automorphisms, namely $varphi_1$ determined by $varphi_1(1) = 1$, and $varphi_3$ determined by $varphi_3(1) = 3$.



Now, it's "easy to see" that $varphi_1$ is the identity map, and "almost as easy to see" that $varphi_3$ has order 2, that is $varphi_3 circ varphi_3 = varphi_1$.



But this means that the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 2, generated by $varphi_3$.



Now, because $A$ and $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ are so "simple" (each consists of only two elements, in fact they are isomorphic), there are only two homomorphisms from $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ into $A$. Let's write $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z = 0, 1 $ with addition mod 2 as group operation. Then $1$ is the generator of $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$, and we have the homomorphisms $alpha_1: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_1$ and $alpha_3: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_3$.



$alpha_1$ is trivial and leads to the trivial semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



$alpha_3$ is nontrivial and leads to the only other (necessarily nontrivial) semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



So we found that there are two semidirect products $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$, one trivial and one nontrivial.



You also write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 $.
That's not correct, because without further context (for example both groups embedded into a larger group), $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z)$ and $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ are different things and have empty intersection.



For example, it is true that, if we write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0, 1, 2, 3 $ as above, then the subset $0, 2 $ is isomorphic to $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ (check that), and thus we can write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 2 $.



But in general, if we write both groups as sets of residues mod 4 and 2, respectively, then we have
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0_4, 1_4, 2_4, 3_4
$$

and
$$
(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0_2, 1_2
$$

where I have written the modulus as subscript.
"Of course", $0_4 neq 0_2$ and $1_4 neq 1_2$, and thus
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = emptyset,
$$

and not
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 quad leftarrow WARNING: THAT'S WRONG.
$$






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    Thank you for your thourough answer.
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$begingroup$

You write "there is no such semidirect product". That's not true, because we always have the trivial semidirect product, namely the direct product, that is $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



In order to search for more semidirect products, let's determine the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



$mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 4. We can write its elements as 0, 1, 2, 3, where the group operation is addition mod 4.



From this, we see that $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators, namely 1 and 3.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is generated by 1, any endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is determined by its image $varphi(1)$ of 1.



And conversely, for any $g in mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$, the assignment $1 mapsto g$ defines an endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ with $varphi(1) = g$. This has to do with the fact that the order of $g$ is a divisor of 4 (the group order).



Also, it's "easy to see" that the endomorphism $varphi$ is an automorphism iff $varphi(1)$ is a generator of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators (1 and 3, see above), we have two automorphisms, namely $varphi_1$ determined by $varphi_1(1) = 1$, and $varphi_3$ determined by $varphi_3(1) = 3$.



Now, it's "easy to see" that $varphi_1$ is the identity map, and "almost as easy to see" that $varphi_3$ has order 2, that is $varphi_3 circ varphi_3 = varphi_1$.



But this means that the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 2, generated by $varphi_3$.



Now, because $A$ and $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ are so "simple" (each consists of only two elements, in fact they are isomorphic), there are only two homomorphisms from $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ into $A$. Let's write $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z = 0, 1 $ with addition mod 2 as group operation. Then $1$ is the generator of $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$, and we have the homomorphisms $alpha_1: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_1$ and $alpha_3: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_3$.



$alpha_1$ is trivial and leads to the trivial semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



$alpha_3$ is nontrivial and leads to the only other (necessarily nontrivial) semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



So we found that there are two semidirect products $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$, one trivial and one nontrivial.



You also write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 $.
That's not correct, because without further context (for example both groups embedded into a larger group), $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z)$ and $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ are different things and have empty intersection.



For example, it is true that, if we write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0, 1, 2, 3 $ as above, then the subset $0, 2 $ is isomorphic to $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ (check that), and thus we can write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 2 $.



But in general, if we write both groups as sets of residues mod 4 and 2, respectively, then we have
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0_4, 1_4, 2_4, 3_4
$$

and
$$
(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0_2, 1_2
$$

where I have written the modulus as subscript.
"Of course", $0_4 neq 0_2$ and $1_4 neq 1_2$, and thus
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = emptyset,
$$

and not
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 quad leftarrow WARNING: THAT'S WRONG.
$$






share|cite|improve this answer









$endgroup$



You write "there is no such semidirect product". That's not true, because we always have the trivial semidirect product, namely the direct product, that is $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



In order to search for more semidirect products, let's determine the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



$mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 4. We can write its elements as 0, 1, 2, 3, where the group operation is addition mod 4.



From this, we see that $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators, namely 1 and 3.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is generated by 1, any endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is determined by its image $varphi(1)$ of 1.



And conversely, for any $g in mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$, the assignment $1 mapsto g$ defines an endomorphism $varphi: mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z rightarrow mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ with $varphi(1) = g$. This has to do with the fact that the order of $g$ is a divisor of 4 (the group order).



Also, it's "easy to see" that the endomorphism $varphi$ is an automorphism iff $varphi(1)$ is a generator of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$.



Since $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ has two generators (1 and 3, see above), we have two automorphisms, namely $varphi_1$ determined by $varphi_1(1) = 1$, and $varphi_3$ determined by $varphi_3(1) = 3$.



Now, it's "easy to see" that $varphi_1$ is the identity map, and "almost as easy to see" that $varphi_3$ has order 2, that is $varphi_3 circ varphi_3 = varphi_1$.



But this means that the automorphism group $A$ of $mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z$ is the cyclic group of order 2, generated by $varphi_3$.



Now, because $A$ and $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ are so "simple" (each consists of only two elements, in fact they are isomorphic), there are only two homomorphisms from $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$ into $A$. Let's write $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z = 0, 1 $ with addition mod 2 as group operation. Then $1$ is the generator of $mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z$, and we have the homomorphisms $alpha_1: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_1$ and $alpha_3: (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) rightarrow A, 1 mapsto varphi_3$.



$alpha_1$ is trivial and leads to the trivial semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) times (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



$alpha_3$ is nontrivial and leads to the only other (necessarily nontrivial) semidirect product $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$.



So we found that there are two semidirect products $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) rtimes (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$, one trivial and one nontrivial.



You also write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 $.
That's not correct, because without further context (for example both groups embedded into a larger group), $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z)$ and $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ are different things and have empty intersection.



For example, it is true that, if we write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0, 1, 2, 3 $ as above, then the subset $0, 2 $ is isomorphic to $(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z)$ (check that), and thus we can write $(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 2 $.



But in general, if we write both groups as sets of residues mod 4 and 2, respectively, then we have
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) = 0_4, 1_4, 2_4, 3_4
$$

and
$$
(mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0_2, 1_2
$$

where I have written the modulus as subscript.
"Of course", $0_4 neq 0_2$ and $1_4 neq 1_2$, and thus
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = emptyset,
$$

and not
$$
(mathbb Z / 4 mathbb Z) cap (mathbb Z / 2 mathbb Z) = 0, 1 quad leftarrow WARNING: THAT'S WRONG.
$$







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