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How many ways we can draw 2 similar cards of the same rank


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    Some of us on the site are not familiar with cards; can you please define "similar" and "rank"? I assume you mean draw 2 cards with the same face value for the moment.
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    Yes, exactly - 2 cards with a same face value
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    And a deck of $36$ cards? That deck is not the standard 52-card deck so some additional clarification is necessary. I assume that this is something like a standard german deck where there are $4$ suits, and nine cards in each suit?
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    @JMoravitz Yes, 4 suits, 9 cards in each suit
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    Additionally, you will need to clarify what exactly you are wishing to count. Are you considering order relevant so that something like $Aclubsuit, Aheartsuit$ is considered a different outcome than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$? Or are these considered to be the same since the set of cards in the hand are the same?
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    Some of us on the site are not familiar with cards; can you please define "similar" and "rank"? I assume you mean draw 2 cards with the same face value for the moment.
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    Yes, exactly - 2 cards with a same face value
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    And a deck of $36$ cards? That deck is not the standard 52-card deck so some additional clarification is necessary. I assume that this is something like a standard german deck where there are $4$ suits, and nine cards in each suit?
    $endgroup$
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    @JMoravitz Yes, 4 suits, 9 cards in each suit
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    Additionally, you will need to clarify what exactly you are wishing to count. Are you considering order relevant so that something like $Aclubsuit, Aheartsuit$ is considered a different outcome than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$? Or are these considered to be the same since the set of cards in the hand are the same?
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  • $begingroup$
    Some of us on the site are not familiar with cards; can you please define "similar" and "rank"? I assume you mean draw 2 cards with the same face value for the moment.
    $endgroup$
    – ItsJustVennDiagramsBro
    Mar 10 at 21:10










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    Yes, exactly - 2 cards with a same face value
    $endgroup$
    – Leocete
    Mar 10 at 21:12











  • $begingroup$
    And a deck of $36$ cards? That deck is not the standard 52-card deck so some additional clarification is necessary. I assume that this is something like a standard german deck where there are $4$ suits, and nine cards in each suit?
    $endgroup$
    – JMoravitz
    Mar 10 at 21:21










  • $begingroup$
    @JMoravitz Yes, 4 suits, 9 cards in each suit
    $endgroup$
    – Leocete
    Mar 10 at 21:23










  • $begingroup$
    Additionally, you will need to clarify what exactly you are wishing to count. Are you considering order relevant so that something like $Aclubsuit, Aheartsuit$ is considered a different outcome than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$? Or are these considered to be the same since the set of cards in the hand are the same?
    $endgroup$
    – JMoravitz
    Mar 10 at 21:24
















  • $begingroup$
    Some of us on the site are not familiar with cards; can you please define "similar" and "rank"? I assume you mean draw 2 cards with the same face value for the moment.
    $endgroup$
    – ItsJustVennDiagramsBro
    Mar 10 at 21:10










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    Yes, exactly - 2 cards with a same face value
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    And a deck of $36$ cards? That deck is not the standard 52-card deck so some additional clarification is necessary. I assume that this is something like a standard german deck where there are $4$ suits, and nine cards in each suit?
    $endgroup$
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    @JMoravitz Yes, 4 suits, 9 cards in each suit
    $endgroup$
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  • $begingroup$
    Additionally, you will need to clarify what exactly you are wishing to count. Are you considering order relevant so that something like $Aclubsuit, Aheartsuit$ is considered a different outcome than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$? Or are these considered to be the same since the set of cards in the hand are the same?
    $endgroup$
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$begingroup$
Some of us on the site are not familiar with cards; can you please define "similar" and "rank"? I assume you mean draw 2 cards with the same face value for the moment.
$endgroup$
– ItsJustVennDiagramsBro
Mar 10 at 21:10




$begingroup$
Some of us on the site are not familiar with cards; can you please define "similar" and "rank"? I assume you mean draw 2 cards with the same face value for the moment.
$endgroup$
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Mar 10 at 21:10












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Yes, exactly - 2 cards with a same face value
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Yes, exactly - 2 cards with a same face value
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$begingroup$
And a deck of $36$ cards? That deck is not the standard 52-card deck so some additional clarification is necessary. I assume that this is something like a standard german deck where there are $4$ suits, and nine cards in each suit?
$endgroup$
– JMoravitz
Mar 10 at 21:21




$begingroup$
And a deck of $36$ cards? That deck is not the standard 52-card deck so some additional clarification is necessary. I assume that this is something like a standard german deck where there are $4$ suits, and nine cards in each suit?
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– JMoravitz
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@JMoravitz Yes, 4 suits, 9 cards in each suit
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@JMoravitz Yes, 4 suits, 9 cards in each suit
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Additionally, you will need to clarify what exactly you are wishing to count. Are you considering order relevant so that something like $Aclubsuit, Aheartsuit$ is considered a different outcome than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$? Or are these considered to be the same since the set of cards in the hand are the same?
$endgroup$
– JMoravitz
Mar 10 at 21:24




$begingroup$
Additionally, you will need to clarify what exactly you are wishing to count. Are you considering order relevant so that something like $Aclubsuit, Aheartsuit$ is considered a different outcome than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$? Or are these considered to be the same since the set of cards in the hand are the same?
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If I remember correctly there are 4 cards of 9 possible values in the deck.



Assuming the order of two cards being irrelevant the number in question is:
$$
9binom42=54.
$$



If the order matters the number should be multiplied by $2!=2$.






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    Additional clarification needs to be made by the OP or your answer needs a qualifier stating that your answer assumes that order of cards is irrelevant
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    @JMoravitz I have started my answer with an assumption about the deck composition. This assumption seems to be correct.
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    the assumption about the deck composition is not what I was referring to. The currently unstated assumption (which was only just now clarified by the OP) that the order of drawing the cards is irrelevant is what I was referring to. In some problems it is common to consider $Aclubsuit,Aheartsuit$ to be a "different" result than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$. In the first scenario you drew a club first. That is a decidedly different outcome than drawing a heart first in several games. If the OP stated that order of cards mattered, then your answer would have been incorrect.
    $endgroup$
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    @JMoravitz I have expanded the answer to cover both scenario.
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If I remember correctly there are 4 cards of 9 possible values in the deck.



Assuming the order of two cards being irrelevant the number in question is:
$$
9binom42=54.
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If the order matters the number should be multiplied by $2!=2$.






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    Additional clarification needs to be made by the OP or your answer needs a qualifier stating that your answer assumes that order of cards is irrelevant
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    @JMoravitz I have started my answer with an assumption about the deck composition. This assumption seems to be correct.
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  • $begingroup$
    the assumption about the deck composition is not what I was referring to. The currently unstated assumption (which was only just now clarified by the OP) that the order of drawing the cards is irrelevant is what I was referring to. In some problems it is common to consider $Aclubsuit,Aheartsuit$ to be a "different" result than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$. In the first scenario you drew a club first. That is a decidedly different outcome than drawing a heart first in several games. If the OP stated that order of cards mattered, then your answer would have been incorrect.
    $endgroup$
    – JMoravitz
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    @JMoravitz I have expanded the answer to cover both scenario.
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If I remember correctly there are 4 cards of 9 possible values in the deck.



Assuming the order of two cards being irrelevant the number in question is:
$$
9binom42=54.
$$



If the order matters the number should be multiplied by $2!=2$.






share|cite|improve this answer











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    Additional clarification needs to be made by the OP or your answer needs a qualifier stating that your answer assumes that order of cards is irrelevant
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    @JMoravitz I have started my answer with an assumption about the deck composition. This assumption seems to be correct.
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  • $begingroup$
    the assumption about the deck composition is not what I was referring to. The currently unstated assumption (which was only just now clarified by the OP) that the order of drawing the cards is irrelevant is what I was referring to. In some problems it is common to consider $Aclubsuit,Aheartsuit$ to be a "different" result than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$. In the first scenario you drew a club first. That is a decidedly different outcome than drawing a heart first in several games. If the OP stated that order of cards mattered, then your answer would have been incorrect.
    $endgroup$
    – JMoravitz
    Mar 10 at 21:28











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    @JMoravitz I have expanded the answer to cover both scenario.
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If I remember correctly there are 4 cards of 9 possible values in the deck.



Assuming the order of two cards being irrelevant the number in question is:
$$
9binom42=54.
$$



If the order matters the number should be multiplied by $2!=2$.






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If I remember correctly there are 4 cards of 9 possible values in the deck.



Assuming the order of two cards being irrelevant the number in question is:
$$
9binom42=54.
$$



If the order matters the number should be multiplied by $2!=2$.







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    Additional clarification needs to be made by the OP or your answer needs a qualifier stating that your answer assumes that order of cards is irrelevant
    $endgroup$
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  • $begingroup$
    @JMoravitz I have started my answer with an assumption about the deck composition. This assumption seems to be correct.
    $endgroup$
    – user
    Mar 10 at 21:26











  • $begingroup$
    the assumption about the deck composition is not what I was referring to. The currently unstated assumption (which was only just now clarified by the OP) that the order of drawing the cards is irrelevant is what I was referring to. In some problems it is common to consider $Aclubsuit,Aheartsuit$ to be a "different" result than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$. In the first scenario you drew a club first. That is a decidedly different outcome than drawing a heart first in several games. If the OP stated that order of cards mattered, then your answer would have been incorrect.
    $endgroup$
    – JMoravitz
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    @JMoravitz I have expanded the answer to cover both scenario.
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  • $begingroup$
    Additional clarification needs to be made by the OP or your answer needs a qualifier stating that your answer assumes that order of cards is irrelevant
    $endgroup$
    – JMoravitz
    Mar 10 at 21:23










  • $begingroup$
    @JMoravitz I have started my answer with an assumption about the deck composition. This assumption seems to be correct.
    $endgroup$
    – user
    Mar 10 at 21:26











  • $begingroup$
    the assumption about the deck composition is not what I was referring to. The currently unstated assumption (which was only just now clarified by the OP) that the order of drawing the cards is irrelevant is what I was referring to. In some problems it is common to consider $Aclubsuit,Aheartsuit$ to be a "different" result than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$. In the first scenario you drew a club first. That is a decidedly different outcome than drawing a heart first in several games. If the OP stated that order of cards mattered, then your answer would have been incorrect.
    $endgroup$
    – JMoravitz
    Mar 10 at 21:28











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    @JMoravitz I have expanded the answer to cover both scenario.
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@JMoravitz I have started my answer with an assumption about the deck composition. This assumption seems to be correct.
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$begingroup$
the assumption about the deck composition is not what I was referring to. The currently unstated assumption (which was only just now clarified by the OP) that the order of drawing the cards is irrelevant is what I was referring to. In some problems it is common to consider $Aclubsuit,Aheartsuit$ to be a "different" result than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$. In the first scenario you drew a club first. That is a decidedly different outcome than drawing a heart first in several games. If the OP stated that order of cards mattered, then your answer would have been incorrect.
$endgroup$
– JMoravitz
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$begingroup$
the assumption about the deck composition is not what I was referring to. The currently unstated assumption (which was only just now clarified by the OP) that the order of drawing the cards is irrelevant is what I was referring to. In some problems it is common to consider $Aclubsuit,Aheartsuit$ to be a "different" result than $Aheartsuit,Aclubsuit$. In the first scenario you drew a club first. That is a decidedly different outcome than drawing a heart first in several games. If the OP stated that order of cards mattered, then your answer would have been incorrect.
$endgroup$
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@JMoravitz I have expanded the answer to cover both scenario.
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