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Conjecture that $ fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b) mid gcd(a,b)$



The 2019 Stack Overflow Developer Survey Results Are InProve $gcd(a,b)=gcd(a+b,operatornamelcm(a,b))$If $ a mid bc $ then $fracagcd(a,b) mid c$?Prove that $gcd(ab,m) mid ( gcd(a,m) * gcd(b,m) )$Prove that if $dmidgcd(a,b)$, then $dmid a$ and $dmid b$.Show that if $gcd(a,c)=d$, $amid b$ and $cmid b$, then $acmid bd$If $c mid a, c mid b$ and $d = gcd(a, b)$, then $gcd(fracac,fracbc) = fracdc$.Conjecture: $ gcd(operatornamerad(a+b) ,ab)= operatornamerad(gcd(a,b))$A confession and a conjecture $gcd(a-b,a+b)|2gcd(a,b)$A conjecture of exercise type: $gcd(a,b)^2=gcd(a^2+b^2,ab)$Prove if $nmid ab$, then $nmid [gcd(a,n) times gcd(b,n)]$Conjecture about primes and the greatest common divisor










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I have discovered some exercise type conjectures which I can't prove and this is one of them:




Given positive integers $a,b$, then
$$ fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b) bigg| gcd(a,b)$$




Can this be proved or disproved?




From time to time, when testing my growing math packages BigZ and Forthmath, I recognize some patterns which I can't prove or disprove (or even have the ambition to). I post them here with the hope that it will not annoy too much. I hope you can bear with it.










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I have discovered some exercise type conjectures which I can't prove and this is one of them:




Given positive integers $a,b$, then
$$ fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b) bigg| gcd(a,b)$$




Can this be proved or disproved?




From time to time, when testing my growing math packages BigZ and Forthmath, I recognize some patterns which I can't prove or disprove (or even have the ambition to). I post them here with the hope that it will not annoy too much. I hope you can bear with it.










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I have discovered some exercise type conjectures which I can't prove and this is one of them:




Given positive integers $a,b$, then
$$ fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b) bigg| gcd(a,b)$$




Can this be proved or disproved?




From time to time, when testing my growing math packages BigZ and Forthmath, I recognize some patterns which I can't prove or disprove (or even have the ambition to). I post them here with the hope that it will not annoy too much. I hope you can bear with it.










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I have discovered some exercise type conjectures which I can't prove and this is one of them:




Given positive integers $a,b$, then
$$ fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b) bigg| gcd(a,b)$$




Can this be proved or disproved?




From time to time, when testing my growing math packages BigZ and Forthmath, I recognize some patterns which I can't prove or disprove (or even have the ambition to). I post them here with the hope that it will not annoy too much. I hope you can bear with it.







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Write $gcd(a,b)=d$, then $a=da',b=db'$ and thus $fracgcd(a+b,ab)d=gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)$ where $gcd(a',b')=1$. Notice now that $gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$ since $a'(a'+b')-a'b'=a'^2$ and thus $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2 implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'$ and $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'+b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a',b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$. This means that $gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)=gcd(a'+b',d)$ and thus it divides $d$ by definition. So your conjecture is indeed true.






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    You obtain $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2. $ By interchanging $a',b'$ we also have $gcd (a'+b',a'b')|b'^2.$ So $gcd (a'+b',a'b')$ is a common divisor of the co-prime pair $a'^2,b'^2.$........+1
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Let $h = gcd(a+b, ab)$ and $g = gcd(a,b).$



For each prime factor $p$ including $2,$ two cases:



(I) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^j v $$
with $k > j$ and $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = j.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = k+j$ while $nu_p(a+b) = j.$ Put together, $nu_p(g) = nu_p(h).$



(II) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^k v $$
with $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = k.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = 2k$ while $nu_p(a+b) geq k.$ Then
$$ k leq nu_p(h) leq 2k $$



Put together, $nu_p(h) leq 2nu_p(g).$



In either case, combining all primes,
$$ h | g^2 $$



Oh, note that we do have $g | h$ and can write $$ frachg ; | ; g $$






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    Taking $D=(a,b)$, then $a=DA$ and $b=DB$, $(ab,a+b)=D(A+B,ABD)$ and $(A,B)=1$. So you want to know if $(ab,a+b)/D$ divides $D$, i.e. $(A+B,ABD)|D$? well, let's see if the prime common divisors between $A+B$ and $ABD$ are divisor of $D$ as well.



    If $p$ is a prime common divisor of $A+B$ and $ABD$, by Gauss lemma, $p|A$ or $p|B$ or $p|D$. If $p|A$ or $p|B$ there is a contradiction with the coprimality of $A$ and $B$ $p$ cause if $p|A$ then $p|(A+B)-A=B$. So $p|D$.






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    Recall $(a,b) = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b)),$ so $,(a!+!b,ab)mid (a,b)^2! = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b))^2$ by $,abmid rm lcm(a,b)^2$






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      Let $m=gcd(a,b)$. Now $mmid a$ and $mmid b$, so $m^2mid ab$.
      Let $a=a_1m$, $b=b_1m$, for some positive integers $a_1$, $b_1ge1$, then $a+b=ma_1+mb_1=m(a_1+b_1)$, so $mmid a+b$.



      There are three cases to consider:



      Case 1:
      If $mnmid(a_1+b_1)$ then $gcd(a+b,ab)=m$, and we have
      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracmm=1midgcd(a,b)=m$$
      and the conjecture is true in this case.



      Now we need to check whether $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$, which is equivalent to $mmid(a_1+b_1)$.



      Case 2:
      If $a_1+b_1=mc$, for some integer $cge1$, then $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, and so $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$. In this case $gcd(a+b,ab)=m^2$ (note we cannot have $gcd(a+b,ab)>m^2$ as $gcd(a,b)=m$, therefore $m^3nmid ab$), and we have
      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracm^2m=mmidgcd(a,b)=m$$
      and the conjecture is true in this case.



      Consider lastly the case:



      Case 3:



      Let us assume
      $$m<gcd(a+b,ab)=gcd(m(a_1+b_1),m^2a_1b_1)=mgcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m^2$$
      which simplifies to
      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m$$
      We cannot have $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, as then $gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)=m$, a contradiction. Further simplification gives
      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)<m$$
      Let $p$ be s.t. $1<p<m$ and $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=p$. Then $pmid a_1+b_1$ and $pmid a_1b_1$, then $pmid a_1$ or $b_1$. If $pmid a_1$ then $pmid a_1+b_1$ implies $pmid(a_1+b_1)-a_1=b_1$, a contradiction since $gcd(a_1,b_1)=1$.



      So $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=1$, and it follows $gcd(a+b,ab)$ can take no value in $(m,m^2)$.



      The conjecture is true.






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        I may misunderstand, but $a=35$ and $b=63$ gives $fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=7$.
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      Write $gcd(a,b)=d$, then $a=da',b=db'$ and thus $fracgcd(a+b,ab)d=gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)$ where $gcd(a',b')=1$. Notice now that $gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$ since $a'(a'+b')-a'b'=a'^2$ and thus $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2 implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'$ and $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'+b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a',b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$. This means that $gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)=gcd(a'+b',d)$ and thus it divides $d$ by definition. So your conjecture is indeed true.






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        You obtain $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2. $ By interchanging $a',b'$ we also have $gcd (a'+b',a'b')|b'^2.$ So $gcd (a'+b',a'b')$ is a common divisor of the co-prime pair $a'^2,b'^2.$........+1
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      Write $gcd(a,b)=d$, then $a=da',b=db'$ and thus $fracgcd(a+b,ab)d=gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)$ where $gcd(a',b')=1$. Notice now that $gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$ since $a'(a'+b')-a'b'=a'^2$ and thus $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2 implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'$ and $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'+b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a',b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$. This means that $gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)=gcd(a'+b',d)$ and thus it divides $d$ by definition. So your conjecture is indeed true.






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        You obtain $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2. $ By interchanging $a',b'$ we also have $gcd (a'+b',a'b')|b'^2.$ So $gcd (a'+b',a'b')$ is a common divisor of the co-prime pair $a'^2,b'^2.$........+1
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      Write $gcd(a,b)=d$, then $a=da',b=db'$ and thus $fracgcd(a+b,ab)d=gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)$ where $gcd(a',b')=1$. Notice now that $gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$ since $a'(a'+b')-a'b'=a'^2$ and thus $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2 implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'$ and $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'+b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a',b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$. This means that $gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)=gcd(a'+b',d)$ and thus it divides $d$ by definition. So your conjecture is indeed true.






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      Write $gcd(a,b)=d$, then $a=da',b=db'$ and thus $fracgcd(a+b,ab)d=gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)$ where $gcd(a',b')=1$. Notice now that $gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$ since $a'(a'+b')-a'b'=a'^2$ and thus $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2 implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'$ and $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'+b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a',b' implies gcd(a'+b',a'b')=1$. This means that $gcd(a'+b',a'b'd)=gcd(a'+b',d)$ and thus it divides $d$ by definition. So your conjecture is indeed true.







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        You obtain $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2. $ By interchanging $a',b'$ we also have $gcd (a'+b',a'b')|b'^2.$ So $gcd (a'+b',a'b')$ is a common divisor of the co-prime pair $a'^2,b'^2.$........+1
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        You obtain $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2. $ By interchanging $a',b'$ we also have $gcd (a'+b',a'b')|b'^2.$ So $gcd (a'+b',a'b')$ is a common divisor of the co-prime pair $a'^2,b'^2.$........+1
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      You obtain $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2. $ By interchanging $a',b'$ we also have $gcd (a'+b',a'b')|b'^2.$ So $gcd (a'+b',a'b')$ is a common divisor of the co-prime pair $a'^2,b'^2.$........+1
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      You obtain $gcd(a'+b',a'b')|a'^2. $ By interchanging $a',b'$ we also have $gcd (a'+b',a'b')|b'^2.$ So $gcd (a'+b',a'b')$ is a common divisor of the co-prime pair $a'^2,b'^2.$........+1
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      Let $h = gcd(a+b, ab)$ and $g = gcd(a,b).$



      For each prime factor $p$ including $2,$ two cases:



      (I) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^j v $$
      with $k > j$ and $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
      Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = j.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = k+j$ while $nu_p(a+b) = j.$ Put together, $nu_p(g) = nu_p(h).$



      (II) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^k v $$
      with $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
      Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = k.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = 2k$ while $nu_p(a+b) geq k.$ Then
      $$ k leq nu_p(h) leq 2k $$



      Put together, $nu_p(h) leq 2nu_p(g).$



      In either case, combining all primes,
      $$ h | g^2 $$



      Oh, note that we do have $g | h$ and can write $$ frachg ; | ; g $$






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        Let $h = gcd(a+b, ab)$ and $g = gcd(a,b).$



        For each prime factor $p$ including $2,$ two cases:



        (I) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^j v $$
        with $k > j$ and $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
        Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = j.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = k+j$ while $nu_p(a+b) = j.$ Put together, $nu_p(g) = nu_p(h).$



        (II) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^k v $$
        with $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
        Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = k.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = 2k$ while $nu_p(a+b) geq k.$ Then
        $$ k leq nu_p(h) leq 2k $$



        Put together, $nu_p(h) leq 2nu_p(g).$



        In either case, combining all primes,
        $$ h | g^2 $$



        Oh, note that we do have $g | h$ and can write $$ frachg ; | ; g $$






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          Let $h = gcd(a+b, ab)$ and $g = gcd(a,b).$



          For each prime factor $p$ including $2,$ two cases:



          (I) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^j v $$
          with $k > j$ and $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
          Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = j.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = k+j$ while $nu_p(a+b) = j.$ Put together, $nu_p(g) = nu_p(h).$



          (II) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^k v $$
          with $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
          Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = k.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = 2k$ while $nu_p(a+b) geq k.$ Then
          $$ k leq nu_p(h) leq 2k $$



          Put together, $nu_p(h) leq 2nu_p(g).$



          In either case, combining all primes,
          $$ h | g^2 $$



          Oh, note that we do have $g | h$ and can write $$ frachg ; | ; g $$






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          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-adic_order



          Let $h = gcd(a+b, ab)$ and $g = gcd(a,b).$



          For each prime factor $p$ including $2,$ two cases:



          (I) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^j v $$
          with $k > j$ and $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
          Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = j.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = k+j$ while $nu_p(a+b) = j.$ Put together, $nu_p(g) = nu_p(h).$



          (II) $$ a = p^k u, b = p^k v $$
          with $u,v neq 0 pmod p.$
          Then $p$-adic valuation $nu_p(g) = k.$ Next $nu_p(ab) = 2k$ while $nu_p(a+b) geq k.$ Then
          $$ k leq nu_p(h) leq 2k $$



          Put together, $nu_p(h) leq 2nu_p(g).$



          In either case, combining all primes,
          $$ h | g^2 $$



          Oh, note that we do have $g | h$ and can write $$ frachg ; | ; g $$







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              Taking $D=(a,b)$, then $a=DA$ and $b=DB$, $(ab,a+b)=D(A+B,ABD)$ and $(A,B)=1$. So you want to know if $(ab,a+b)/D$ divides $D$, i.e. $(A+B,ABD)|D$? well, let's see if the prime common divisors between $A+B$ and $ABD$ are divisor of $D$ as well.



              If $p$ is a prime common divisor of $A+B$ and $ABD$, by Gauss lemma, $p|A$ or $p|B$ or $p|D$. If $p|A$ or $p|B$ there is a contradiction with the coprimality of $A$ and $B$ $p$ cause if $p|A$ then $p|(A+B)-A=B$. So $p|D$.






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              Taking $D=(a,b)$, then $a=DA$ and $b=DB$, $(ab,a+b)=D(A+B,ABD)$ and $(A,B)=1$. So you want to know if $(ab,a+b)/D$ divides $D$, i.e. $(A+B,ABD)|D$? well, let's see if the prime common divisors between $A+B$ and $ABD$ are divisor of $D$ as well.



              If $p$ is a prime common divisor of $A+B$ and $ABD$, by Gauss lemma, $p|A$ or $p|B$ or $p|D$. If $p|A$ or $p|B$ there is a contradiction with the coprimality of $A$ and $B$ $p$ cause if $p|A$ then $p|(A+B)-A=B$. So $p|D$.






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              Taking $D=(a,b)$, then $a=DA$ and $b=DB$, $(ab,a+b)=D(A+B,ABD)$ and $(A,B)=1$. So you want to know if $(ab,a+b)/D$ divides $D$, i.e. $(A+B,ABD)|D$? well, let's see if the prime common divisors between $A+B$ and $ABD$ are divisor of $D$ as well.



              If $p$ is a prime common divisor of $A+B$ and $ABD$, by Gauss lemma, $p|A$ or $p|B$ or $p|D$. If $p|A$ or $p|B$ there is a contradiction with the coprimality of $A$ and $B$ $p$ cause if $p|A$ then $p|(A+B)-A=B$. So $p|D$.






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              Taking $D=(a,b)$, then $a=DA$ and $b=DB$, $(ab,a+b)=D(A+B,ABD)$ and $(A,B)=1$. So you want to know if $(ab,a+b)/D$ divides $D$, i.e. $(A+B,ABD)|D$? well, let's see if the prime common divisors between $A+B$ and $ABD$ are divisor of $D$ as well.



              If $p$ is a prime common divisor of $A+B$ and $ABD$, by Gauss lemma, $p|A$ or $p|B$ or $p|D$. If $p|A$ or $p|B$ there is a contradiction with the coprimality of $A$ and $B$ $p$ cause if $p|A$ then $p|(A+B)-A=B$. So $p|D$.







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              Recall $(a,b) = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b)),$ so $,(a!+!b,ab)mid (a,b)^2! = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b))^2$ by $,abmid rm lcm(a,b)^2$






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                Recall $(a,b) = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b)),$ so $,(a!+!b,ab)mid (a,b)^2! = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b))^2$ by $,abmid rm lcm(a,b)^2$






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                  Recall $(a,b) = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b)),$ so $,(a!+!b,ab)mid (a,b)^2! = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b))^2$ by $,abmid rm lcm(a,b)^2$






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                  Recall $(a,b) = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b)),$ so $,(a!+!b,ab)mid (a,b)^2! = (a!+!b,rm lcm(a,b))^2$ by $,abmid rm lcm(a,b)^2$







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                  answered Mar 21 at 13:41









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                      $begingroup$

                      Let $m=gcd(a,b)$. Now $mmid a$ and $mmid b$, so $m^2mid ab$.
                      Let $a=a_1m$, $b=b_1m$, for some positive integers $a_1$, $b_1ge1$, then $a+b=ma_1+mb_1=m(a_1+b_1)$, so $mmid a+b$.



                      There are three cases to consider:



                      Case 1:
                      If $mnmid(a_1+b_1)$ then $gcd(a+b,ab)=m$, and we have
                      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracmm=1midgcd(a,b)=m$$
                      and the conjecture is true in this case.



                      Now we need to check whether $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$, which is equivalent to $mmid(a_1+b_1)$.



                      Case 2:
                      If $a_1+b_1=mc$, for some integer $cge1$, then $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, and so $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$. In this case $gcd(a+b,ab)=m^2$ (note we cannot have $gcd(a+b,ab)>m^2$ as $gcd(a,b)=m$, therefore $m^3nmid ab$), and we have
                      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracm^2m=mmidgcd(a,b)=m$$
                      and the conjecture is true in this case.



                      Consider lastly the case:



                      Case 3:



                      Let us assume
                      $$m<gcd(a+b,ab)=gcd(m(a_1+b_1),m^2a_1b_1)=mgcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m^2$$
                      which simplifies to
                      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m$$
                      We cannot have $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, as then $gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)=m$, a contradiction. Further simplification gives
                      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)<m$$
                      Let $p$ be s.t. $1<p<m$ and $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=p$. Then $pmid a_1+b_1$ and $pmid a_1b_1$, then $pmid a_1$ or $b_1$. If $pmid a_1$ then $pmid a_1+b_1$ implies $pmid(a_1+b_1)-a_1=b_1$, a contradiction since $gcd(a_1,b_1)=1$.



                      So $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=1$, and it follows $gcd(a+b,ab)$ can take no value in $(m,m^2)$.



                      The conjecture is true.






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                      • $begingroup$
                        I may misunderstand, but $a=35$ and $b=63$ gives $fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=7$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Lehs
                        Aug 24 '18 at 23:26










                      • $begingroup$
                        @Lehs Thanks. I started off with the two conditions $m/m$ and $m^2/m$ to check and foolishly forgot to add $a_1+b_1$ as well as factor.
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                        Aug 25 '18 at 0:20















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                      $begingroup$

                      Let $m=gcd(a,b)$. Now $mmid a$ and $mmid b$, so $m^2mid ab$.
                      Let $a=a_1m$, $b=b_1m$, for some positive integers $a_1$, $b_1ge1$, then $a+b=ma_1+mb_1=m(a_1+b_1)$, so $mmid a+b$.



                      There are three cases to consider:



                      Case 1:
                      If $mnmid(a_1+b_1)$ then $gcd(a+b,ab)=m$, and we have
                      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracmm=1midgcd(a,b)=m$$
                      and the conjecture is true in this case.



                      Now we need to check whether $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$, which is equivalent to $mmid(a_1+b_1)$.



                      Case 2:
                      If $a_1+b_1=mc$, for some integer $cge1$, then $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, and so $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$. In this case $gcd(a+b,ab)=m^2$ (note we cannot have $gcd(a+b,ab)>m^2$ as $gcd(a,b)=m$, therefore $m^3nmid ab$), and we have
                      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracm^2m=mmidgcd(a,b)=m$$
                      and the conjecture is true in this case.



                      Consider lastly the case:



                      Case 3:



                      Let us assume
                      $$m<gcd(a+b,ab)=gcd(m(a_1+b_1),m^2a_1b_1)=mgcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m^2$$
                      which simplifies to
                      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m$$
                      We cannot have $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, as then $gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)=m$, a contradiction. Further simplification gives
                      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)<m$$
                      Let $p$ be s.t. $1<p<m$ and $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=p$. Then $pmid a_1+b_1$ and $pmid a_1b_1$, then $pmid a_1$ or $b_1$. If $pmid a_1$ then $pmid a_1+b_1$ implies $pmid(a_1+b_1)-a_1=b_1$, a contradiction since $gcd(a_1,b_1)=1$.



                      So $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=1$, and it follows $gcd(a+b,ab)$ can take no value in $(m,m^2)$.



                      The conjecture is true.






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                      • $begingroup$
                        I may misunderstand, but $a=35$ and $b=63$ gives $fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=7$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Lehs
                        Aug 24 '18 at 23:26










                      • $begingroup$
                        @Lehs Thanks. I started off with the two conditions $m/m$ and $m^2/m$ to check and foolishly forgot to add $a_1+b_1$ as well as factor.
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                        Aug 25 '18 at 0:20













                      0












                      0








                      0





                      $begingroup$

                      Let $m=gcd(a,b)$. Now $mmid a$ and $mmid b$, so $m^2mid ab$.
                      Let $a=a_1m$, $b=b_1m$, for some positive integers $a_1$, $b_1ge1$, then $a+b=ma_1+mb_1=m(a_1+b_1)$, so $mmid a+b$.



                      There are three cases to consider:



                      Case 1:
                      If $mnmid(a_1+b_1)$ then $gcd(a+b,ab)=m$, and we have
                      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracmm=1midgcd(a,b)=m$$
                      and the conjecture is true in this case.



                      Now we need to check whether $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$, which is equivalent to $mmid(a_1+b_1)$.



                      Case 2:
                      If $a_1+b_1=mc$, for some integer $cge1$, then $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, and so $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$. In this case $gcd(a+b,ab)=m^2$ (note we cannot have $gcd(a+b,ab)>m^2$ as $gcd(a,b)=m$, therefore $m^3nmid ab$), and we have
                      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracm^2m=mmidgcd(a,b)=m$$
                      and the conjecture is true in this case.



                      Consider lastly the case:



                      Case 3:



                      Let us assume
                      $$m<gcd(a+b,ab)=gcd(m(a_1+b_1),m^2a_1b_1)=mgcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m^2$$
                      which simplifies to
                      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m$$
                      We cannot have $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, as then $gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)=m$, a contradiction. Further simplification gives
                      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)<m$$
                      Let $p$ be s.t. $1<p<m$ and $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=p$. Then $pmid a_1+b_1$ and $pmid a_1b_1$, then $pmid a_1$ or $b_1$. If $pmid a_1$ then $pmid a_1+b_1$ implies $pmid(a_1+b_1)-a_1=b_1$, a contradiction since $gcd(a_1,b_1)=1$.



                      So $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=1$, and it follows $gcd(a+b,ab)$ can take no value in $(m,m^2)$.



                      The conjecture is true.






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                      Let $m=gcd(a,b)$. Now $mmid a$ and $mmid b$, so $m^2mid ab$.
                      Let $a=a_1m$, $b=b_1m$, for some positive integers $a_1$, $b_1ge1$, then $a+b=ma_1+mb_1=m(a_1+b_1)$, so $mmid a+b$.



                      There are three cases to consider:



                      Case 1:
                      If $mnmid(a_1+b_1)$ then $gcd(a+b,ab)=m$, and we have
                      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracmm=1midgcd(a,b)=m$$
                      and the conjecture is true in this case.



                      Now we need to check whether $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$, which is equivalent to $mmid(a_1+b_1)$.



                      Case 2:
                      If $a_1+b_1=mc$, for some integer $cge1$, then $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, and so $m^2mid a+b=m(a_1+b_1)$. In this case $gcd(a+b,ab)=m^2$ (note we cannot have $gcd(a+b,ab)>m^2$ as $gcd(a,b)=m$, therefore $m^3nmid ab$), and we have
                      $$fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=fracm^2m=mmidgcd(a,b)=m$$
                      and the conjecture is true in this case.



                      Consider lastly the case:



                      Case 3:



                      Let us assume
                      $$m<gcd(a+b,ab)=gcd(m(a_1+b_1),m^2a_1b_1)=mgcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m^2$$
                      which simplifies to
                      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)<m$$
                      We cannot have $mmid(a_1+b_1)$, as then $gcd(a_1+b_1,ma_1b_1)=m$, a contradiction. Further simplification gives
                      $$1<gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)<m$$
                      Let $p$ be s.t. $1<p<m$ and $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=p$. Then $pmid a_1+b_1$ and $pmid a_1b_1$, then $pmid a_1$ or $b_1$. If $pmid a_1$ then $pmid a_1+b_1$ implies $pmid(a_1+b_1)-a_1=b_1$, a contradiction since $gcd(a_1,b_1)=1$.



                      So $gcd(a_1+b_1,a_1b_1)=1$, and it follows $gcd(a+b,ab)$ can take no value in $(m,m^2)$.



                      The conjecture is true.







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                      answered Aug 24 '18 at 22:35









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                      • $begingroup$
                        I may misunderstand, but $a=35$ and $b=63$ gives $fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=7$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Lehs
                        Aug 24 '18 at 23:26










                      • $begingroup$
                        @Lehs Thanks. I started off with the two conditions $m/m$ and $m^2/m$ to check and foolishly forgot to add $a_1+b_1$ as well as factor.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Daniel Buck
                        Aug 25 '18 at 0:20
















                      • $begingroup$
                        I may misunderstand, but $a=35$ and $b=63$ gives $fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=7$.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Lehs
                        Aug 24 '18 at 23:26










                      • $begingroup$
                        @Lehs Thanks. I started off with the two conditions $m/m$ and $m^2/m$ to check and foolishly forgot to add $a_1+b_1$ as well as factor.
                        $endgroup$
                        – Daniel Buck
                        Aug 25 '18 at 0:20















                      $begingroup$
                      I may misunderstand, but $a=35$ and $b=63$ gives $fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=7$.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Lehs
                      Aug 24 '18 at 23:26




                      $begingroup$
                      I may misunderstand, but $a=35$ and $b=63$ gives $fracgcd(a+b,ab)gcd(a,b)=7$.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Lehs
                      Aug 24 '18 at 23:26












                      $begingroup$
                      @Lehs Thanks. I started off with the two conditions $m/m$ and $m^2/m$ to check and foolishly forgot to add $a_1+b_1$ as well as factor.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Daniel Buck
                      Aug 25 '18 at 0:20




                      $begingroup$
                      @Lehs Thanks. I started off with the two conditions $m/m$ and $m^2/m$ to check and foolishly forgot to add $a_1+b_1$ as well as factor.
                      $endgroup$
                      – Daniel Buck
                      Aug 25 '18 at 0:20

















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