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Orbit of a Permutation


Centralizer of a given element in $S_n$?Help with Conrad's “Recognizing Galois Groups”Group Action on $S_n$Calculation related to the number of conjugacy classes of the symmetric groupFinding the centralizer of a permutationThe sum of orbit size of some element over the image of group “polynomial”Exercise 3A.7 of “Finite group theory”, M. IsaacsFinding Subgroups Of $S_15$Why is this the right answer to this orbit question?Show that the cycle decomposition of a permutation can be recovered by considering the orbits of the action of its cyclic group on $1, 2, …, n$













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On page 66 of these notes is proposition 4.26:




Every permutation can be written (in essentially one way) as a product of disjoint cycles.




The proof begins as follows:




Let $sigma in S_n$, and let $O subseteq 1,...,n$ be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$....




What does it mean for $O$ to be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$? I am unfamiliar with this terminology. From what I gather, the implicit action is of $S_n$ on $1,...,n$ by functional evaluation. So, $O$ will be the orbit of some element in $1,...,n$. How can it be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$?



EDIT



Also, the author writes $O = i,sigma (i),..., sigma^r-1(i)$. How do we know this equality holds? What if $sigma$ has order smaller than $r-1$?










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    How did they define $r$?
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    – Mike Earnest
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    $O$ is the orbit of $i$ under the action of the cyclic subgroup $langle sigma rangle$ [this action naturally being the restriction of the action of $S_n$].
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    – M. Vinay
    Mar 14 at 15:34










  • $begingroup$
    See also Exercise 7 on UMN Fall 2017 Math 4990 homework set #7 for a version of this proof with all details filled in. It is one of the most painful to formalize proofs in basic abstract algebra. (Note that my $sim$-equivalence classes are exactly the orbits of $sigma$, although I define them a bit differently.)
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    – darij grinberg
    Mar 14 at 15:37
















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$begingroup$


On page 66 of these notes is proposition 4.26:




Every permutation can be written (in essentially one way) as a product of disjoint cycles.




The proof begins as follows:




Let $sigma in S_n$, and let $O subseteq 1,...,n$ be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$....




What does it mean for $O$ to be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$? I am unfamiliar with this terminology. From what I gather, the implicit action is of $S_n$ on $1,...,n$ by functional evaluation. So, $O$ will be the orbit of some element in $1,...,n$. How can it be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$?



EDIT



Also, the author writes $O = i,sigma (i),..., sigma^r-1(i)$. How do we know this equality holds? What if $sigma$ has order smaller than $r-1$?










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$







  • 2




    $begingroup$
    How did they define $r$?
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Mar 14 at 15:32






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    $O$ is the orbit of $i$ under the action of the cyclic subgroup $langle sigma rangle$ [this action naturally being the restriction of the action of $S_n$].
    $endgroup$
    – M. Vinay
    Mar 14 at 15:34










  • $begingroup$
    See also Exercise 7 on UMN Fall 2017 Math 4990 homework set #7 for a version of this proof with all details filled in. It is one of the most painful to formalize proofs in basic abstract algebra. (Note that my $sim$-equivalence classes are exactly the orbits of $sigma$, although I define them a bit differently.)
    $endgroup$
    – darij grinberg
    Mar 14 at 15:37














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$begingroup$


On page 66 of these notes is proposition 4.26:




Every permutation can be written (in essentially one way) as a product of disjoint cycles.




The proof begins as follows:




Let $sigma in S_n$, and let $O subseteq 1,...,n$ be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$....




What does it mean for $O$ to be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$? I am unfamiliar with this terminology. From what I gather, the implicit action is of $S_n$ on $1,...,n$ by functional evaluation. So, $O$ will be the orbit of some element in $1,...,n$. How can it be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$?



EDIT



Also, the author writes $O = i,sigma (i),..., sigma^r-1(i)$. How do we know this equality holds? What if $sigma$ has order smaller than $r-1$?










share|cite|improve this question









$endgroup$




On page 66 of these notes is proposition 4.26:




Every permutation can be written (in essentially one way) as a product of disjoint cycles.




The proof begins as follows:




Let $sigma in S_n$, and let $O subseteq 1,...,n$ be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$....




What does it mean for $O$ to be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$? I am unfamiliar with this terminology. From what I gather, the implicit action is of $S_n$ on $1,...,n$ by functional evaluation. So, $O$ will be the orbit of some element in $1,...,n$. How can it be an orbit for $langle sigma rangle$?



EDIT



Also, the author writes $O = i,sigma (i),..., sigma^r-1(i)$. How do we know this equality holds? What if $sigma$ has order smaller than $r-1$?







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  • 2




    $begingroup$
    How did they define $r$?
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Mar 14 at 15:32






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    $O$ is the orbit of $i$ under the action of the cyclic subgroup $langle sigma rangle$ [this action naturally being the restriction of the action of $S_n$].
    $endgroup$
    – M. Vinay
    Mar 14 at 15:34










  • $begingroup$
    See also Exercise 7 on UMN Fall 2017 Math 4990 homework set #7 for a version of this proof with all details filled in. It is one of the most painful to formalize proofs in basic abstract algebra. (Note that my $sim$-equivalence classes are exactly the orbits of $sigma$, although I define them a bit differently.)
    $endgroup$
    – darij grinberg
    Mar 14 at 15:37













  • 2




    $begingroup$
    How did they define $r$?
    $endgroup$
    – Mike Earnest
    Mar 14 at 15:32






  • 2




    $begingroup$
    $O$ is the orbit of $i$ under the action of the cyclic subgroup $langle sigma rangle$ [this action naturally being the restriction of the action of $S_n$].
    $endgroup$
    – M. Vinay
    Mar 14 at 15:34










  • $begingroup$
    See also Exercise 7 on UMN Fall 2017 Math 4990 homework set #7 for a version of this proof with all details filled in. It is one of the most painful to formalize proofs in basic abstract algebra. (Note that my $sim$-equivalence classes are exactly the orbits of $sigma$, although I define them a bit differently.)
    $endgroup$
    – darij grinberg
    Mar 14 at 15:37








2




2




$begingroup$
How did they define $r$?
$endgroup$
– Mike Earnest
Mar 14 at 15:32




$begingroup$
How did they define $r$?
$endgroup$
– Mike Earnest
Mar 14 at 15:32




2




2




$begingroup$
$O$ is the orbit of $i$ under the action of the cyclic subgroup $langle sigma rangle$ [this action naturally being the restriction of the action of $S_n$].
$endgroup$
– M. Vinay
Mar 14 at 15:34




$begingroup$
$O$ is the orbit of $i$ under the action of the cyclic subgroup $langle sigma rangle$ [this action naturally being the restriction of the action of $S_n$].
$endgroup$
– M. Vinay
Mar 14 at 15:34












$begingroup$
See also Exercise 7 on UMN Fall 2017 Math 4990 homework set #7 for a version of this proof with all details filled in. It is one of the most painful to formalize proofs in basic abstract algebra. (Note that my $sim$-equivalence classes are exactly the orbits of $sigma$, although I define them a bit differently.)
$endgroup$
– darij grinberg
Mar 14 at 15:37





$begingroup$
See also Exercise 7 on UMN Fall 2017 Math 4990 homework set #7 for a version of this proof with all details filled in. It is one of the most painful to formalize proofs in basic abstract algebra. (Note that my $sim$-equivalence classes are exactly the orbits of $sigma$, although I define them a bit differently.)
$endgroup$
– darij grinberg
Mar 14 at 15:37











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