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Correct Formulation of a map between two measurable spaces


Measurable functions with values in Banach spacesOn integration, measurability, almost everywhere conceptComposition of 2 Lebesgue measurable functions is not lebesgue measurable: Are these two functions Borel Measurable?Shorter proof of measurability of the set where two measurable functions differCounterexample on product of measurable spacesMeasurability of function on incomplete measurable spaces.universal property of measurable spacesFolland Real Analysis Exercise 1.2.3Trouble understanding the proof of disintegration of measure by TaoContinuous map between $L^p$ spaces













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Let $pi: (X,mathcalM,nu) to (Y,mathcalN,eta)$ be a measurable map i.e. $pi^-1(E) in mathcalM$ for all $E in mathcalN$. I want to define a map from $L^infty(Y,eta)$ to $L^infty(X,nu)$. The natural thing to do is the following:



Define a map $tildepi:L^infty(Y,eta) to L^infty(X,nu)$ by $$tildepi(f)=fcircpi,f in L^infty(Y,eta)$$
Recall that
$$|f|_infty=infleft{alpha ge 0: muleft(f(x)$$



Claim-1: $tildepi(f)$ is measurable.



Proof: Let's assume that $tildepi(f)$ is real-valued, without any loss of generality. Observe that $tildepi(f)^-1([a,infty))=pi^-1left(f^-1([a,infty)right)$. Since $f$ is a measurable, $f^-1([a,infty)) in mathcalN$. Since $pi$ is a measurable map, $$tildepi(f)^-1left([a,infty)right)=pi^-1left(f^-1([a,infty))right) in mathcalM$$



Claim-2: $tildepi(f) in L^infty(X,nu)$



Proof: Observe that for a.e $x in X$ , we have $|f(pi(x))| le |f|_infty < infty$.



At this point of time, I need one assumption that $pi_*(nu)=eta$. I don't see how else to move forward without this assumption.



Let $E_alpha=f(pi(x))$. Let $F_alpha=f(y)$. Then, $E_alphasubseteqpi^-1left(F_alpharight)$. For $alpha > |f|_infty$, observe that $eta(F_alpha)=0$. Since $pi^-1(F_alpha) in mathcalN$, we have that $nu(pi^-1(F_alpha))=0$ and hence $nu(E_alpha)=0$. Thus, $|tildepi(f)|_infty le |f|_infty< infty$.



Please let me know if there is something wrong with this proof. Thanks for the help!!










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    Let $pi: (X,mathcalM,nu) to (Y,mathcalN,eta)$ be a measurable map i.e. $pi^-1(E) in mathcalM$ for all $E in mathcalN$. I want to define a map from $L^infty(Y,eta)$ to $L^infty(X,nu)$. The natural thing to do is the following:



    Define a map $tildepi:L^infty(Y,eta) to L^infty(X,nu)$ by $$tildepi(f)=fcircpi,f in L^infty(Y,eta)$$
    Recall that
    $$|f|_infty=infleft{alpha ge 0: muleft(f(x)$$



    Claim-1: $tildepi(f)$ is measurable.



    Proof: Let's assume that $tildepi(f)$ is real-valued, without any loss of generality. Observe that $tildepi(f)^-1([a,infty))=pi^-1left(f^-1([a,infty)right)$. Since $f$ is a measurable, $f^-1([a,infty)) in mathcalN$. Since $pi$ is a measurable map, $$tildepi(f)^-1left([a,infty)right)=pi^-1left(f^-1([a,infty))right) in mathcalM$$



    Claim-2: $tildepi(f) in L^infty(X,nu)$



    Proof: Observe that for a.e $x in X$ , we have $|f(pi(x))| le |f|_infty < infty$.



    At this point of time, I need one assumption that $pi_*(nu)=eta$. I don't see how else to move forward without this assumption.



    Let $E_alpha=f(pi(x))$. Let $F_alpha=f(y)$. Then, $E_alphasubseteqpi^-1left(F_alpharight)$. For $alpha > |f|_infty$, observe that $eta(F_alpha)=0$. Since $pi^-1(F_alpha) in mathcalN$, we have that $nu(pi^-1(F_alpha))=0$ and hence $nu(E_alpha)=0$. Thus, $|tildepi(f)|_infty le |f|_infty< infty$.



    Please let me know if there is something wrong with this proof. Thanks for the help!!










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      Let $pi: (X,mathcalM,nu) to (Y,mathcalN,eta)$ be a measurable map i.e. $pi^-1(E) in mathcalM$ for all $E in mathcalN$. I want to define a map from $L^infty(Y,eta)$ to $L^infty(X,nu)$. The natural thing to do is the following:



      Define a map $tildepi:L^infty(Y,eta) to L^infty(X,nu)$ by $$tildepi(f)=fcircpi,f in L^infty(Y,eta)$$
      Recall that
      $$|f|_infty=infleft{alpha ge 0: muleft(f(x)$$



      Claim-1: $tildepi(f)$ is measurable.



      Proof: Let's assume that $tildepi(f)$ is real-valued, without any loss of generality. Observe that $tildepi(f)^-1([a,infty))=pi^-1left(f^-1([a,infty)right)$. Since $f$ is a measurable, $f^-1([a,infty)) in mathcalN$. Since $pi$ is a measurable map, $$tildepi(f)^-1left([a,infty)right)=pi^-1left(f^-1([a,infty))right) in mathcalM$$



      Claim-2: $tildepi(f) in L^infty(X,nu)$



      Proof: Observe that for a.e $x in X$ , we have $|f(pi(x))| le |f|_infty < infty$.



      At this point of time, I need one assumption that $pi_*(nu)=eta$. I don't see how else to move forward without this assumption.



      Let $E_alpha=f(pi(x))$. Let $F_alpha=f(y)$. Then, $E_alphasubseteqpi^-1left(F_alpharight)$. For $alpha > |f|_infty$, observe that $eta(F_alpha)=0$. Since $pi^-1(F_alpha) in mathcalN$, we have that $nu(pi^-1(F_alpha))=0$ and hence $nu(E_alpha)=0$. Thus, $|tildepi(f)|_infty le |f|_infty< infty$.



      Please let me know if there is something wrong with this proof. Thanks for the help!!










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      Let $pi: (X,mathcalM,nu) to (Y,mathcalN,eta)$ be a measurable map i.e. $pi^-1(E) in mathcalM$ for all $E in mathcalN$. I want to define a map from $L^infty(Y,eta)$ to $L^infty(X,nu)$. The natural thing to do is the following:



      Define a map $tildepi:L^infty(Y,eta) to L^infty(X,nu)$ by $$tildepi(f)=fcircpi,f in L^infty(Y,eta)$$
      Recall that
      $$|f|_infty=infleft{alpha ge 0: muleft(f(x)$$



      Claim-1: $tildepi(f)$ is measurable.



      Proof: Let's assume that $tildepi(f)$ is real-valued, without any loss of generality. Observe that $tildepi(f)^-1([a,infty))=pi^-1left(f^-1([a,infty)right)$. Since $f$ is a measurable, $f^-1([a,infty)) in mathcalN$. Since $pi$ is a measurable map, $$tildepi(f)^-1left([a,infty)right)=pi^-1left(f^-1([a,infty))right) in mathcalM$$



      Claim-2: $tildepi(f) in L^infty(X,nu)$



      Proof: Observe that for a.e $x in X$ , we have $|f(pi(x))| le |f|_infty < infty$.



      At this point of time, I need one assumption that $pi_*(nu)=eta$. I don't see how else to move forward without this assumption.



      Let $E_alpha=f(pi(x))$. Let $F_alpha=f(y)$. Then, $E_alphasubseteqpi^-1left(F_alpharight)$. For $alpha > |f|_infty$, observe that $eta(F_alpha)=0$. Since $pi^-1(F_alpha) in mathcalN$, we have that $nu(pi^-1(F_alpha))=0$ and hence $nu(E_alpha)=0$. Thus, $|tildepi(f)|_infty le |f|_infty< infty$.



      Please let me know if there is something wrong with this proof. Thanks for the help!!







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          The function $tilde pi $ is not well defined function unless you make an extra assumption on $pi$. You need the condition $nu (pi ^-1(E))=0$ whenever $E in mathcal N$ and $eta(E)=0$. You don't need the stronger assumption that $eta =nu circ pi^-1$.






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