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Lemma for Hurewicz Theorem (Bredon)


Homologous cycleHomotopies of edge paths in simplicial complexesHomology with twisted coefficients of the circleHomotopy and chain homotopy determine each otherWhy is the subdivision an extension?Why does the Hurewicz homomorphism factor through the abelianization of the fundamental group?Why is are the simplicial 1-chains $[A,B] neq -[B,A]$?Homology groups of a PokeballPrelude to Rotman's proof of the Hurewicz TheoremProof in Lee's Introduction to Topological manifoldsLifting homotopic paths













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I am trying to understand the following lemma:
If $f,g:Irightarrow X$ are paths s.t. $f(1)=g(0)$ then the 1-chain $f*g-f-g$ is a boudary.



Proof: On the standard 2-complex (should it say simplex?) $Delta_2$ put $f$ on the edge $(e_0,e_1)$ and $g$ on the edge $(e_1,e_2)$. Then define a singular 2-simplex $sigma:Delta_2rightarrow X$ to be constant on the perpendicular lines to the edge $(e_0,e_2)$ (HOW?). This results in the path $f*g$ being on the edge $(e_0,e_2)$ (WHY?). Therefore $partial sigma=g-(f*g)+f$



I know that $partial sigma=partial^0 sigma-partial^1 sigma-partial^2 sigma$
and that $partial^0 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(0,y,z)$
$partial^1 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(x,0,z)$
$partial^2 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(x,y,0)$



I also drew a picture and still dont get it.



This is one of three previous lemma to the Hurewicz theorem, any help would be appreciated.










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    Take an equilateral triangle, and project onto one of its edges. This will produce a single edge, and follow this by the map $fg$, which will produce for you a particular $2$-chain. Restring this map to the boundary tells you that as a sum it is $f+g-fg$.
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    See my answer here : math.stackexchange.com/questions/2838755/homologous-cycle/… (I don't know if you want to understand the lemma or understand a specific proof, that's why I don't know if it's a duplicate)
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$begingroup$


I am trying to understand the following lemma:
If $f,g:Irightarrow X$ are paths s.t. $f(1)=g(0)$ then the 1-chain $f*g-f-g$ is a boudary.



Proof: On the standard 2-complex (should it say simplex?) $Delta_2$ put $f$ on the edge $(e_0,e_1)$ and $g$ on the edge $(e_1,e_2)$. Then define a singular 2-simplex $sigma:Delta_2rightarrow X$ to be constant on the perpendicular lines to the edge $(e_0,e_2)$ (HOW?). This results in the path $f*g$ being on the edge $(e_0,e_2)$ (WHY?). Therefore $partial sigma=g-(f*g)+f$



I know that $partial sigma=partial^0 sigma-partial^1 sigma-partial^2 sigma$
and that $partial^0 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(0,y,z)$
$partial^1 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(x,0,z)$
$partial^2 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(x,y,0)$



I also drew a picture and still dont get it.



This is one of three previous lemma to the Hurewicz theorem, any help would be appreciated.










share|cite|improve this question











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  • $begingroup$
    Take an equilateral triangle, and project onto one of its edges. This will produce a single edge, and follow this by the map $fg$, which will produce for you a particular $2$-chain. Restring this map to the boundary tells you that as a sum it is $f+g-fg$.
    $endgroup$
    – Andres Mejia
    Mar 12 at 19:45










  • $begingroup$
    See my answer here : math.stackexchange.com/questions/2838755/homologous-cycle/… (I don't know if you want to understand the lemma or understand a specific proof, that's why I don't know if it's a duplicate)
    $endgroup$
    – Max
    Mar 12 at 21:45














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$begingroup$


I am trying to understand the following lemma:
If $f,g:Irightarrow X$ are paths s.t. $f(1)=g(0)$ then the 1-chain $f*g-f-g$ is a boudary.



Proof: On the standard 2-complex (should it say simplex?) $Delta_2$ put $f$ on the edge $(e_0,e_1)$ and $g$ on the edge $(e_1,e_2)$. Then define a singular 2-simplex $sigma:Delta_2rightarrow X$ to be constant on the perpendicular lines to the edge $(e_0,e_2)$ (HOW?). This results in the path $f*g$ being on the edge $(e_0,e_2)$ (WHY?). Therefore $partial sigma=g-(f*g)+f$



I know that $partial sigma=partial^0 sigma-partial^1 sigma-partial^2 sigma$
and that $partial^0 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(0,y,z)$
$partial^1 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(x,0,z)$
$partial^2 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(x,y,0)$



I also drew a picture and still dont get it.



This is one of three previous lemma to the Hurewicz theorem, any help would be appreciated.










share|cite|improve this question











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I am trying to understand the following lemma:
If $f,g:Irightarrow X$ are paths s.t. $f(1)=g(0)$ then the 1-chain $f*g-f-g$ is a boudary.



Proof: On the standard 2-complex (should it say simplex?) $Delta_2$ put $f$ on the edge $(e_0,e_1)$ and $g$ on the edge $(e_1,e_2)$. Then define a singular 2-simplex $sigma:Delta_2rightarrow X$ to be constant on the perpendicular lines to the edge $(e_0,e_2)$ (HOW?). This results in the path $f*g$ being on the edge $(e_0,e_2)$ (WHY?). Therefore $partial sigma=g-(f*g)+f$



I know that $partial sigma=partial^0 sigma-partial^1 sigma-partial^2 sigma$
and that $partial^0 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(0,y,z)$
$partial^1 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(x,0,z)$
$partial^2 sigma(x,y,z)=sigma(x,y,0)$



I also drew a picture and still dont get it.



This is one of three previous lemma to the Hurewicz theorem, any help would be appreciated.







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  • $begingroup$
    Take an equilateral triangle, and project onto one of its edges. This will produce a single edge, and follow this by the map $fg$, which will produce for you a particular $2$-chain. Restring this map to the boundary tells you that as a sum it is $f+g-fg$.
    $endgroup$
    – Andres Mejia
    Mar 12 at 19:45










  • $begingroup$
    See my answer here : math.stackexchange.com/questions/2838755/homologous-cycle/… (I don't know if you want to understand the lemma or understand a specific proof, that's why I don't know if it's a duplicate)
    $endgroup$
    – Max
    Mar 12 at 21:45

















  • $begingroup$
    Take an equilateral triangle, and project onto one of its edges. This will produce a single edge, and follow this by the map $fg$, which will produce for you a particular $2$-chain. Restring this map to the boundary tells you that as a sum it is $f+g-fg$.
    $endgroup$
    – Andres Mejia
    Mar 12 at 19:45










  • $begingroup$
    See my answer here : math.stackexchange.com/questions/2838755/homologous-cycle/… (I don't know if you want to understand the lemma or understand a specific proof, that's why I don't know if it's a duplicate)
    $endgroup$
    – Max
    Mar 12 at 21:45
















$begingroup$
Take an equilateral triangle, and project onto one of its edges. This will produce a single edge, and follow this by the map $fg$, which will produce for you a particular $2$-chain. Restring this map to the boundary tells you that as a sum it is $f+g-fg$.
$endgroup$
– Andres Mejia
Mar 12 at 19:45




$begingroup$
Take an equilateral triangle, and project onto one of its edges. This will produce a single edge, and follow this by the map $fg$, which will produce for you a particular $2$-chain. Restring this map to the boundary tells you that as a sum it is $f+g-fg$.
$endgroup$
– Andres Mejia
Mar 12 at 19:45












$begingroup$
See my answer here : math.stackexchange.com/questions/2838755/homologous-cycle/… (I don't know if you want to understand the lemma or understand a specific proof, that's why I don't know if it's a duplicate)
$endgroup$
– Max
Mar 12 at 21:45





$begingroup$
See my answer here : math.stackexchange.com/questions/2838755/homologous-cycle/… (I don't know if you want to understand the lemma or understand a specific proof, that's why I don't know if it's a duplicate)
$endgroup$
– Max
Mar 12 at 21:45











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