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Is this a partition of a sample space?


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Suppose I have a random variable $ X: Omega longrightarrow R$. Where $Omega$ is the sample space.



Suppose then that I have another random variable $Y$ which is some function of $X$, $Y=f(X)$.



What is the sample space of $Y$? Is it $Omega$ or $R$?



If the sample space is still $Omega$ can I also say that $A_1: X<0 , A_2: X geq 0$ is a partition of $Omega$ ?, or is it only a partition of $R$ since $X$ is real valued?



I am asking this question because I want to apply the law of total expectations on $Y$, i.e. I want to express $E[Y]$ as



$E[Y]=E[Y|X<0]P(X<0) + E[Y|X geq 0]P(X geq 0)$










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    Suppose I have a random variable $ X: Omega longrightarrow R$. Where $Omega$ is the sample space.



    Suppose then that I have another random variable $Y$ which is some function of $X$, $Y=f(X)$.



    What is the sample space of $Y$? Is it $Omega$ or $R$?



    If the sample space is still $Omega$ can I also say that $A_1: X<0 , A_2: X geq 0$ is a partition of $Omega$ ?, or is it only a partition of $R$ since $X$ is real valued?



    I am asking this question because I want to apply the law of total expectations on $Y$, i.e. I want to express $E[Y]$ as



    $E[Y]=E[Y|X<0]P(X<0) + E[Y|X geq 0]P(X geq 0)$










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      Suppose I have a random variable $ X: Omega longrightarrow R$. Where $Omega$ is the sample space.



      Suppose then that I have another random variable $Y$ which is some function of $X$, $Y=f(X)$.



      What is the sample space of $Y$? Is it $Omega$ or $R$?



      If the sample space is still $Omega$ can I also say that $A_1: X<0 , A_2: X geq 0$ is a partition of $Omega$ ?, or is it only a partition of $R$ since $X$ is real valued?



      I am asking this question because I want to apply the law of total expectations on $Y$, i.e. I want to express $E[Y]$ as



      $E[Y]=E[Y|X<0]P(X<0) + E[Y|X geq 0]P(X geq 0)$










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      Suppose I have a random variable $ X: Omega longrightarrow R$. Where $Omega$ is the sample space.



      Suppose then that I have another random variable $Y$ which is some function of $X$, $Y=f(X)$.



      What is the sample space of $Y$? Is it $Omega$ or $R$?



      If the sample space is still $Omega$ can I also say that $A_1: X<0 , A_2: X geq 0$ is a partition of $Omega$ ?, or is it only a partition of $R$ since $X$ is real valued?



      I am asking this question because I want to apply the law of total expectations on $Y$, i.e. I want to express $E[Y]$ as



      $E[Y]=E[Y|X<0]P(X<0) + E[Y|X geq 0]P(X geq 0)$







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          The sample space is normally still $Omega$ in that $Y:=fcirc X :Omega to mathbbR$. Furthermore $A_1$ and $A_2$ are disjoint subsets of $Omega$ in that
          $$
          A_1 = (X<0) = X^-1((-infty,0)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)<0 subseteq Omega,
          $$

          and
          $$
          A_1 = (Xgeq 0) =X^-1([0,infty)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)geq 0 subseteq Omega,
          $$

          for which it holds that
          $$
          A_1cap A_2 = omegainOmega:X(omega)<0, X(omega)geq 0 = emptyset.
          $$

          They also cover the entire of our sample space, that is
          $$
          A_1 cup A_2 = omegainOmega: X(omega)in mathbbR = Omega.
          $$

          Thus this is a partition of $Omega$ if we don't require a partition not to include the empty set. Otherwise you have to include more information about $X$ not being strictly negative or non-negative.



          To use the formula you use you need $P(A_1),P(A_2)>0$, implying that they indeed are non-empty. However given they have positive probability you can indeed use the law of total expectation.






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            $begingroup$

            The sample space is normally still $Omega$ in that $Y:=fcirc X :Omega to mathbbR$. Furthermore $A_1$ and $A_2$ are disjoint subsets of $Omega$ in that
            $$
            A_1 = (X<0) = X^-1((-infty,0)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)<0 subseteq Omega,
            $$

            and
            $$
            A_1 = (Xgeq 0) =X^-1([0,infty)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)geq 0 subseteq Omega,
            $$

            for which it holds that
            $$
            A_1cap A_2 = omegainOmega:X(omega)<0, X(omega)geq 0 = emptyset.
            $$

            They also cover the entire of our sample space, that is
            $$
            A_1 cup A_2 = omegainOmega: X(omega)in mathbbR = Omega.
            $$

            Thus this is a partition of $Omega$ if we don't require a partition not to include the empty set. Otherwise you have to include more information about $X$ not being strictly negative or non-negative.



            To use the formula you use you need $P(A_1),P(A_2)>0$, implying that they indeed are non-empty. However given they have positive probability you can indeed use the law of total expectation.






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              $begingroup$

              The sample space is normally still $Omega$ in that $Y:=fcirc X :Omega to mathbbR$. Furthermore $A_1$ and $A_2$ are disjoint subsets of $Omega$ in that
              $$
              A_1 = (X<0) = X^-1((-infty,0)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)<0 subseteq Omega,
              $$

              and
              $$
              A_1 = (Xgeq 0) =X^-1([0,infty)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)geq 0 subseteq Omega,
              $$

              for which it holds that
              $$
              A_1cap A_2 = omegainOmega:X(omega)<0, X(omega)geq 0 = emptyset.
              $$

              They also cover the entire of our sample space, that is
              $$
              A_1 cup A_2 = omegainOmega: X(omega)in mathbbR = Omega.
              $$

              Thus this is a partition of $Omega$ if we don't require a partition not to include the empty set. Otherwise you have to include more information about $X$ not being strictly negative or non-negative.



              To use the formula you use you need $P(A_1),P(A_2)>0$, implying that they indeed are non-empty. However given they have positive probability you can indeed use the law of total expectation.






              share|cite|improve this answer









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                $begingroup$

                The sample space is normally still $Omega$ in that $Y:=fcirc X :Omega to mathbbR$. Furthermore $A_1$ and $A_2$ are disjoint subsets of $Omega$ in that
                $$
                A_1 = (X<0) = X^-1((-infty,0)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)<0 subseteq Omega,
                $$

                and
                $$
                A_1 = (Xgeq 0) =X^-1([0,infty)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)geq 0 subseteq Omega,
                $$

                for which it holds that
                $$
                A_1cap A_2 = omegainOmega:X(omega)<0, X(omega)geq 0 = emptyset.
                $$

                They also cover the entire of our sample space, that is
                $$
                A_1 cup A_2 = omegainOmega: X(omega)in mathbbR = Omega.
                $$

                Thus this is a partition of $Omega$ if we don't require a partition not to include the empty set. Otherwise you have to include more information about $X$ not being strictly negative or non-negative.



                To use the formula you use you need $P(A_1),P(A_2)>0$, implying that they indeed are non-empty. However given they have positive probability you can indeed use the law of total expectation.






                share|cite|improve this answer









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                The sample space is normally still $Omega$ in that $Y:=fcirc X :Omega to mathbbR$. Furthermore $A_1$ and $A_2$ are disjoint subsets of $Omega$ in that
                $$
                A_1 = (X<0) = X^-1((-infty,0)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)<0 subseteq Omega,
                $$

                and
                $$
                A_1 = (Xgeq 0) =X^-1([0,infty)) = omegainOmega: X(omega)geq 0 subseteq Omega,
                $$

                for which it holds that
                $$
                A_1cap A_2 = omegainOmega:X(omega)<0, X(omega)geq 0 = emptyset.
                $$

                They also cover the entire of our sample space, that is
                $$
                A_1 cup A_2 = omegainOmega: X(omega)in mathbbR = Omega.
                $$

                Thus this is a partition of $Omega$ if we don't require a partition not to include the empty set. Otherwise you have to include more information about $X$ not being strictly negative or non-negative.



                To use the formula you use you need $P(A_1),P(A_2)>0$, implying that they indeed are non-empty. However given they have positive probability you can indeed use the law of total expectation.







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