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Definition (Poincaré complex)
$X$ is a n-dimensional Poincaré complex if $X$ have the same homotopy type of a finite CW complex with a homomorphism $$ w: pi_1 (X) rightarrow mathbbZ/2 $$ and $M in H_n (X;mathbbZ[w])$, such that
$$H^ast (X;mathbbZ[w]) rightarrow ^frown [M] H_n-s(X;mathbbZ[w])$$ is a isomorphism.










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I have this question, if every 3-dimensional Poincaré complex is a 3-dimensional topological manifold?



Definition (Poincaré complex)
$X$ is a n-dimensional Poincaré complex if $X$ have the same homotopy type of a finite CW complex with a homomorphism $$ w: pi_1 (X) rightarrow mathbbZ/2 $$ and $M in H_n (X;mathbbZ[w])$, such that
$$H^ast (X;mathbbZ[w]) rightarrow ^frown [M] H_n-s(X;mathbbZ[w])$$ is a isomorphism.










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$X$ is a n-dimensional Poincaré complex if $X$ have the same homotopy type of a finite CW complex with a homomorphism $$ w: pi_1 (X) rightarrow mathbbZ/2 $$ and $M in H_n (X;mathbbZ[w])$, such that
$$H^ast (X;mathbbZ[w]) rightarrow ^frown [M] H_n-s(X;mathbbZ[w])$$ is a isomorphism.










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Definition (Poincaré complex)
$X$ is a n-dimensional Poincaré complex if $X$ have the same homotopy type of a finite CW complex with a homomorphism $$ w: pi_1 (X) rightarrow mathbbZ/2 $$ and $M in H_n (X;mathbbZ[w])$, such that
$$H^ast (X;mathbbZ[w]) rightarrow ^frown [M] H_n-s(X;mathbbZ[w])$$ is a isomorphism.







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$begingroup$
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First of all, you can always modify an $n$-dimensional closed (oriented if you prefer) connected $n$-dimensional manifold to make it into a finite CW $n$-dimensional Poincare complex which is not a manifold: Just attach a 1-cell to it along a vertex of this cell. This does not change the homotopy type, hence, keeps the space $X$ a Poincare complex, but $X$ is clearly not a manifold. Thus, a meaningful question to ask is:




Is every $n$-dimensional finite Poincare complex homotopy-equivalent to an $n$-dimensional manifold?




In dimension 2, it is a nontrivial theorem due to Bieri, Linnell and Muller that the question has positive answer. In dimension 3 the answer is negative, an example is due to C.B. Thomas, it is somewhere in his book:



Elliptic Structures on 3-Manifolds, Cambridge University Press, 1986.



In fact, he had this example already in 1977 modulo the Smale Conjecture which was proven by Hatcher in 1983.



It is a famous open problem (due to C.T.C. Wall) if every finite aspherical n-dimensional Poincare complex is homotopy equivalent to an n-dimensional manifold, $nge 3$. From what I know, the question is expected to have positive answer in dimension 3 and negative answer in (sufficiently) higher dimensions. Already in dimension 3 this problem is notoriously difficult.



Two more papers to read:



C.T.C Wall, Poincare duality in dimension 3, 2004.



J. Klein, Poincare duality spaces, In: Surveys on surgery theory, Vol. 1, 135–165,
Ann. of Math. Stud., 145, Princeton Univ. Press, Princeton, NJ, 2000.



See also my answer here.






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    First of all, you can always modify an $n$-dimensional closed (oriented if you prefer) connected $n$-dimensional manifold to make it into a finite CW $n$-dimensional Poincare complex which is not a manifold: Just attach a 1-cell to it along a vertex of this cell. This does not change the homotopy type, hence, keeps the space $X$ a Poincare complex, but $X$ is clearly not a manifold. Thus, a meaningful question to ask is:




    Is every $n$-dimensional finite Poincare complex homotopy-equivalent to an $n$-dimensional manifold?




    In dimension 2, it is a nontrivial theorem due to Bieri, Linnell and Muller that the question has positive answer. In dimension 3 the answer is negative, an example is due to C.B. Thomas, it is somewhere in his book:



    Elliptic Structures on 3-Manifolds, Cambridge University Press, 1986.



    In fact, he had this example already in 1977 modulo the Smale Conjecture which was proven by Hatcher in 1983.



    It is a famous open problem (due to C.T.C. Wall) if every finite aspherical n-dimensional Poincare complex is homotopy equivalent to an n-dimensional manifold, $nge 3$. From what I know, the question is expected to have positive answer in dimension 3 and negative answer in (sufficiently) higher dimensions. Already in dimension 3 this problem is notoriously difficult.



    Two more papers to read:



    C.T.C Wall, Poincare duality in dimension 3, 2004.



    J. Klein, Poincare duality spaces, In: Surveys on surgery theory, Vol. 1, 135–165,
    Ann. of Math. Stud., 145, Princeton Univ. Press, Princeton, NJ, 2000.



    See also my answer here.






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      First of all, you can always modify an $n$-dimensional closed (oriented if you prefer) connected $n$-dimensional manifold to make it into a finite CW $n$-dimensional Poincare complex which is not a manifold: Just attach a 1-cell to it along a vertex of this cell. This does not change the homotopy type, hence, keeps the space $X$ a Poincare complex, but $X$ is clearly not a manifold. Thus, a meaningful question to ask is:




      Is every $n$-dimensional finite Poincare complex homotopy-equivalent to an $n$-dimensional manifold?




      In dimension 2, it is a nontrivial theorem due to Bieri, Linnell and Muller that the question has positive answer. In dimension 3 the answer is negative, an example is due to C.B. Thomas, it is somewhere in his book:



      Elliptic Structures on 3-Manifolds, Cambridge University Press, 1986.



      In fact, he had this example already in 1977 modulo the Smale Conjecture which was proven by Hatcher in 1983.



      It is a famous open problem (due to C.T.C. Wall) if every finite aspherical n-dimensional Poincare complex is homotopy equivalent to an n-dimensional manifold, $nge 3$. From what I know, the question is expected to have positive answer in dimension 3 and negative answer in (sufficiently) higher dimensions. Already in dimension 3 this problem is notoriously difficult.



      Two more papers to read:



      C.T.C Wall, Poincare duality in dimension 3, 2004.



      J. Klein, Poincare duality spaces, In: Surveys on surgery theory, Vol. 1, 135–165,
      Ann. of Math. Stud., 145, Princeton Univ. Press, Princeton, NJ, 2000.



      See also my answer here.






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        First of all, you can always modify an $n$-dimensional closed (oriented if you prefer) connected $n$-dimensional manifold to make it into a finite CW $n$-dimensional Poincare complex which is not a manifold: Just attach a 1-cell to it along a vertex of this cell. This does not change the homotopy type, hence, keeps the space $X$ a Poincare complex, but $X$ is clearly not a manifold. Thus, a meaningful question to ask is:




        Is every $n$-dimensional finite Poincare complex homotopy-equivalent to an $n$-dimensional manifold?




        In dimension 2, it is a nontrivial theorem due to Bieri, Linnell and Muller that the question has positive answer. In dimension 3 the answer is negative, an example is due to C.B. Thomas, it is somewhere in his book:



        Elliptic Structures on 3-Manifolds, Cambridge University Press, 1986.



        In fact, he had this example already in 1977 modulo the Smale Conjecture which was proven by Hatcher in 1983.



        It is a famous open problem (due to C.T.C. Wall) if every finite aspherical n-dimensional Poincare complex is homotopy equivalent to an n-dimensional manifold, $nge 3$. From what I know, the question is expected to have positive answer in dimension 3 and negative answer in (sufficiently) higher dimensions. Already in dimension 3 this problem is notoriously difficult.



        Two more papers to read:



        C.T.C Wall, Poincare duality in dimension 3, 2004.



        J. Klein, Poincare duality spaces, In: Surveys on surgery theory, Vol. 1, 135–165,
        Ann. of Math. Stud., 145, Princeton Univ. Press, Princeton, NJ, 2000.



        See also my answer here.






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        First of all, you can always modify an $n$-dimensional closed (oriented if you prefer) connected $n$-dimensional manifold to make it into a finite CW $n$-dimensional Poincare complex which is not a manifold: Just attach a 1-cell to it along a vertex of this cell. This does not change the homotopy type, hence, keeps the space $X$ a Poincare complex, but $X$ is clearly not a manifold. Thus, a meaningful question to ask is:




        Is every $n$-dimensional finite Poincare complex homotopy-equivalent to an $n$-dimensional manifold?




        In dimension 2, it is a nontrivial theorem due to Bieri, Linnell and Muller that the question has positive answer. In dimension 3 the answer is negative, an example is due to C.B. Thomas, it is somewhere in his book:



        Elliptic Structures on 3-Manifolds, Cambridge University Press, 1986.



        In fact, he had this example already in 1977 modulo the Smale Conjecture which was proven by Hatcher in 1983.



        It is a famous open problem (due to C.T.C. Wall) if every finite aspherical n-dimensional Poincare complex is homotopy equivalent to an n-dimensional manifold, $nge 3$. From what I know, the question is expected to have positive answer in dimension 3 and negative answer in (sufficiently) higher dimensions. Already in dimension 3 this problem is notoriously difficult.



        Two more papers to read:



        C.T.C Wall, Poincare duality in dimension 3, 2004.



        J. Klein, Poincare duality spaces, In: Surveys on surgery theory, Vol. 1, 135–165,
        Ann. of Math. Stud., 145, Princeton Univ. Press, Princeton, NJ, 2000.



        See also my answer here.







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